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A male escort has opened up about leaving behind his uncomfortable experiences soullessly prostituting himself in IT in favour of working in the sex industry. Sydney-based John Oh said he ran IT businesses in the late '90s and 2000s. But due to the recession, he turned to escorting as a sideline to fill the gaps financially, …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    It's an option

    I guess it's something to consider if I ever cock up my career .......

    1. TheVogon Silver badge

      Re: It's an option

      I suspect he might find it more difficult to insert a floppy in his new job...

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: It's an option

      IT types are often so busy they don't know whether they're coming or going...

      Looks like this chap's halved that problem...

    3. Montreal Sean

      Re: It's an option

      A cock up would certainly help in this line of work.

    4. MyffyW Silver badge

      Re: It's an option

      Leaving aside the parasites and vultures (no offence El Reg) who tend to control one's life in this scene, there are worse ways of earning a living than escorting. Indeed, plenty of IT jobs are more physically and mentally gruelling and pay substantially less.

  2. TRT Silver badge

    What sort of clientele?

    Widows as a service?

    1. EyePeaSea
      Joke

      Re: What sort of clientele?

      SaaS = Sex as a Service?

      Much more satisfying anything Adobe have to offer.

      1. LeahroyNake Bronze badge
        Coat

        Re: What sort of clientele?

        Also more satisfying and cheaper than an Adobe subscription :p

    2. macjules Silver badge
      Coat

      Re: What sort of clientele?

      Or even worse .. Mac Oh Sex

      1. TRT Silver badge

        Re: What sort of clientele?

        Speciality is Amiga.

    3. Jedit

      Re: What sort of clientele?

      I would upvote this OP, but it's at +69 right now and I won't be the one to spoil it.

  3. malle-herbert Silver badge
    Joke

    He should have become an IT consultant...

    Since those also like to give their customers a good shafting...

    1. Sir Runcible Spoon Silver badge
      Happy

      Re: He should have become an IT consultant...

      Oy! I resemble that remark :P

      Also, if he ran IT Businesses and failed to have a positive impact on anyone's life then he probably wasn't cut out for IT in the first place.

      1. Roland6 Silver badge

        Re: He should have become an IT consultant...

        "he ran IT businesses in the late '90s and 2000s" ...

        "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives - a small number to be sure, but it's something that IT never allowed me to do,"

        Clearly he wasn't a very good businessman, as obviously his IT businesses were abject failures. My interpretation is that someone who "ran IT businesses" wasn't just a contractor running a one man business, but someone who actually employeed people.

    2. kain preacher Silver badge

      Re: He should have become an IT consultant...

      But he wants to look the people in the face that he screws.

  4. andy 103
    Happy

    "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives"

    "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives - a small number to be sure, but it's something that IT never allowed me to do,"

    On a serious note, that's why a lot of people give up when they're working in I.T. Because they are rarely thanked for what they do, and it's often hard for them to see how what they do impacts in a positive (or negative!) way for their clients. This is especially true of developers in large organisations. I know some amazing developers who have gone on to do other things - albeit not escorting - for this very reason. I'm lucky because I'm finally working in an organisation where they really appreciate and value what you do. It makes a world of difference and I've never worked anywhere with such low staff turnover. I'm sure other people will have had experiences both ways (no escorting-based pun intended).

    1. Arthur the cat Silver badge

      Re: "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives"

      Because [IT workers] are rarely thanked for what they do

      To misquote Charles Schulz: doing a good job in IT is like pissing yourself in a dark suit - it may give you a warm glow, but nobody seems to notice.

      When I worked as a sysadmin I only ever got asked two questions from the users: "why isn't X working?" or "what do you do all day?"

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives"

        Most IT implementations are undertaken to automate processes with senior management believing that it will allow them to reduce costs (i.e., headcount). It's not surprising that people would be unlikely to be thanking you.

        With the advent of "cloud", it may be that sysadmins find themselves being taken out...

      2. dak

        Re: "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives"

        That's why I gave up working as a UNIX sysadmin - the only measure of success was a lack of complaints.

    2. Dazed and Confused Silver badge

      Re: "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives"

      On a serious note, that's why a lot of people give up when they're working in I.T.

      Yepp that's why my Mrs gave up IT, albeit it not to go into escorting... at least not as far as I've noticed.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: But Angela has a working brain...

      Oh my god, nothing's working; you're useless

      Oh my god, nothing ever breaks; you're not worth the money

      At least if you're shagging a customer they can appreciate where their money is going

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: But Angela has a working brain...

        Pretty certain the second bit is why I just lost my upcoming contract renewal*. The first part happened as well, although all three times my stuff went down was due to networks and servers, but since my system was what everyone saw fail it was, of course, my fault.

        * NO, really, I actually heard someone ask this while passing in the hallway during one of my rare trips out of my cave. "Who's that guy?" "Oh, he runs the ___ system." "Really? God, why do we need him? It hasn't been down in over a year, and then it was down twice in a couple of months. Is he any good?"

        No. Fucking. Shit.

        (Anonymous because I know the twats trawl this site and, while I have already given them a piece of my mind about whether or not I will be around for a call-in should anything serious happen, considering how they jerked me around on the renewal for several months, I would rather not leave one of them thar paper-trail thingies.)

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives"

      > Because they are rarely thanked for what they do, and it's often hard for them to see how what they do impacts in a positive (or negative!) way for their clients.

      FOSS mate, give it a try.

      You still have the spoilt brats who complain like they have raised you and paid for your education and your first two Ferraris, of course, but at least you can tell them to go get escorted by someone without fear of repercussions.

      And on the other hand, you do have a lot of users who are polite and show appreciation for what you do in many different ways: by saying thank you, by sending patches, sometimes even making donations. Plus, I think it's nice to have that sort of face-to-face interaction between users and developers. While my own contributions have always been anonymous, like everything else I do online, as a user I do get satisfaction from knowing that this application or that library have been written by John, or Linda, or whoever, as opposed to the facelessness of a "© Microsoft" or some such.

      So yeah, FOSS is an entirely different experience with a much richer social aspect.

    5. LaeMing
      Unhappy

      Re: "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives"

      Funny. That's exactly why I left the modern Education sector! (I missed the boat on escorting, though).

    6. MJI Silver badge

      Re: "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives"

      So do I

      In IT

      I get thanks as well.

      Small business, vertical market software, low sales, high value, you know your customers.

    7. GruntyMcPugh Silver badge

      Re: "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives"

      "On a serious note, that's why a lot of people give up when they're working in I.T. Because they are rarely thanked for what they do,"

      This is why I like cooking. My previous IT life (I was an IBMer) was incredibly unsatisfying, and frustrating. Often felt I was being ignored, and I was correcting the same mistakes made by our offshore teams over and over again, and never felt I was getting anywhere. Cooking meant I could plan, and execute something, and see the results. The customer (my wife) would be pleased with the result. My post IT strategy is to run a Bed and Breakfast, and do some cooking. I don't think my wife would approve if I offered 'extras' : -)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "I get to make a genuine difference to people's lives"

        My stepson's a chef. A bloody good chef. Been a sous at The Criterion in Picc Circus amongst other places.

        Believe me, nothing - and I mean nothing - I've ever seen in IT matches the sierra-hotel-one-tango he's had thrown at him over the years.

        Far too many head chefs seem to think that all those celebrity chefs are some sort of role model, and HR in the hospitality biz makes a chocolate teapot look like a very useful device. I fought and beat one once to help him out. He's gone FoH now, in chain restaurants mostly, but of course whenever the kitchen crashes it's him who sorts it out.

        B&B - don't. Just don't. Unless you have a very realistic expectation of the long hours and hard work involved.

  5. Gordon Pryra

    I wouldn't get out of bed for that sort of cash

    Oh, hang on....

  6. Solarflare
    Devil

    "Unlike in tech, 'I get to make a small difference to people's lives'"

    If I did it, I'd get to make a big difference to people's lives!

    1. Jedit
      Devil

      "If I did it, I'd get to make a big difference to people's lives!"

      Stuff asking "why aren't there more women in tech", the real question we should be asking is why there are so many male engineers when they all seem to think

      <------>

      is eight inches.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    i did this when i was younger

    it pays very well.

    but a few things to remember:

    - there are a lot of unhappy middle aged women out there. most just want a bit of company.

    - female hygiene isn't all its made out to be.

    1. wolfetone Silver badge

      Re: i did this when i was younger

      To think that, in my youth, I would chat middle aged women up in clubs and have a wonderful time with them.

      No one told me I could've charged them for it!!!!

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        1. Tikimon Silver badge
          Facepalm

          Re: i did this when i was younger

          "Lets be honest, if you were chatting up desperate middle age women its because you couldn't pull the ones nearer your own age, and/or you had an Oedipus thing going on."

          Let's be honest, you have no idea what you're talking about. Only desperate women are chasing younger guys, and only desperate men would pursue an older woman? Just what insurmountable problem does an age difference cause? A billion or so MILF fans also disagree with you.

          I had a fling with an older woman or two when I was younger. I was dating around my age with no problem. These were attractive women with enough experience to be smoking hot in bed. Beats a self-entitled, inexperienced 20-something any day. I also once dated a woman who preferred men 15+ years older than her because she was tired of shallow young guys. Age means nothing if you're taking reasonable care of your body.

          1. boltar Silver badge

            Re: i did this when i was younger

            "Let's be honest, you have no idea what you're talking about. "

            30 years experience with women says otherwise sunshine.

            "Only desperate women are chasing younger guys, and only desperate men would pursue an older woman?"

            In a nutshell. The women are hitting the panic button over their fading youth (a bit like Kate Beckinsale right now with her toyboy) and the men will take the first female who looks at them twice.

            "Age means nothing if you're taking reasonable care of your body."

            Pfft, yeah, right, whatever you say Peter Pan. Who's your next conquest, Enid at the old peoples home?

            1. wolfetone Silver badge

              Re: i did this when i was younger

              "30 years experience with women says otherwise sunshine."

              Anyone can have 30 years experience. It doesn't mean you have 30 years of experience doing the right thing.

              And, for the record, nothing desperate about it. It just so happened older women were a lot more adventerous in bed, a lot less needy than girls my own age, and all of them had their own place.

              1. boltar Silver badge

                Re: i did this when i was younger

                "Anyone can have 30 years experience. It doesn't mean you have 30 years of experience doing the right thing."

                Whats the "right thing"? I've no regrets. I couldn't imagine going out with some middle age woman when I was younger, I wanted someone who had similar cultural reference points and was fun, not someone boring on about the beetles or presley and her mortgage payments.

                "It just so happened older women were a lot more adventerous in bed"

                Clearly you've never been out with the right younger women.

                1. wolfetone Silver badge

                  Re: i did this when i was younger

                  "Whats the "right thing"? I've no regrets. I couldn't imagine going out with some middle age woman when I was younger, I wanted someone who had similar cultural reference points and was fun, not someone boring on about the beetles or presley and her mortgage payments."

                  Ahhhhh, see now here we have the problem. And this can all be settled with this one line:

                  I didn't date older women. I shagged them. No relationships, nothing. Just a text or a call to say "You busy? Fancy some fun?" and then in half an hour I'm riding them like a donkey. Again, something women my own age didn't want.

                  So there.

                  1. boltar Silver badge

                    Re: i did this when i was younger

                    "I didn't date older women. I shagged them. No relationships, nothing. "

                    Fair enough.

                  2. Anonymous Coward
                    Anonymous Coward

                    Re: i did this when i was younger

                    Just a text or a call to say "You busy? Fancy some fun?" and then in half an hour I'm riding them like a donkey. Again, something women my own age didn't want.

                    So there.

                    Here's a tip

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH0XOCFGDD8

                    Thank you cell phone Jesus!

                  3. Dwarf Silver badge
                    Joke

                    Re: i did this when i was younger

                    Just a text or a call to say "You busy? Fancy some fun?" and then in half an hour I'm riding them like a donkey.

                    Most of the time when I see people riding a Donkey (at the beach), they are jiggling up and down at a random pace; often fall off unexpectedly. Some realise that they prefer watching someone else doing it.

                    There's also the cheap gag of someone making an ass of themselves.

                    Sorry, that all the innuendo's I cam cum up with.

            2. IsJustabloke Silver badge
              Facepalm

              Re: i did this when i was younger

              "30 years experience with women says otherwise sunshine."

              who a sad bitter little boy then?

              Cheer up chum even you'll get an opportunity to give Mary Palm and her five sisters a rest.

              @wolftone

              "It just so happened older women were a lot more adventerous in bed, a lot less needy than girls my own age, and all of them had their own place."

              that was always my experience as well.

              1. boltar Silver badge

                Re: i did this when i was younger

                "who a sad bitter little boy then?"

                Sorry, think you've been looking in the mirror by mistake.

                "Cheer up chum even you'll get an opportunity to give Mary Palm and her five sisters a rest."

                That your close family is it?

                "that was always my experience as well."

                Another little boy who was looking for a substitute mummy. All a bit tragic and rather funny :)

            3. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: i did this when i was younger

              > 30 years experience with women

              Boltar, I do not think our fellow poster would consider sitting in front of a computer monitor, furiously scrolling through picture galleries with your free hand, as qualifying "experience".

              Then again, I might be wrong. :-P

              1. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                Re: i did this when i was younger

                > Boltar, I do not think our fellow poster would consider sitting in front of a computer monitor, furiously scrolling through picture galleries with your free hand, as qualifying "experience".

                Which is a shame, because if it did it would make me something of a Guru.

      2. Alan W. Rateliff, II

        Re: i did this when i was younger

        Yeah. Back in my 20s I developed a theory on why I should become a male escort. Never did the research, however.

        All you have to do is dress nicely, groom up presentably, and just look the part of a gentleman. Smile a lot, speak when spoken to, laugh at horrible or stupid jokes, pretend to take interest in whatever inanity spills forth from her mouth, be gracious when introduced as whatever (including going with whatever story she decides to tell, if at all as at some events this sort of thing is expected and accepted,) and so on.

        Be her best friend, a caring companion, whatever she may need for those few hours. Remembering certain details of your conversations can be a bonus for repeat customers, sometimes worth a little extra tip.

        Rather than having to pay for the evening's events, though if you do for appearances you can agree to be reimbursed, you get paid and have much better odds at a happy ending for the evening. You may never see her again, or if you do it's on a customer-provider basis so you get to set your availability with no hurt feelings.

        In my past I've gone on "dates" with lady friends so they wouldn't be alone: weddings, birthday parties, movie nights, even funerals. I never got any money for any of those but I realized I could given the right situation.

        Also, it doesn't have to stop at "middle age." Sites like "Our Time" are becoming a thing. There is a market in the 40 and 50 year-old range, and a lot of these ladies are very nice looking, good-natured, and fun. If you are in your 40s and have aged well, there is a chance for you to make the occupation change or take it on as a weekend job.

        That's the theory, anyway.

        1. Maty

          Re: i did this when i was younger

          Thanks guys

          Reading this thread was a real ride down memory lane, right to the back of the bike sheds at secondary school. All it lacked was someone bragging that he'd screwed the gym teacher. ..

          1. wolfetone Silver badge
            Coat

            Re: i did this when i was younger

            "All it lacked was someone bragging that he'd screwed the gym teacher."

            I did try. But I wasn't her type.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: i did this when i was younger

      Fanny Chmelar would disagree.

    3. KorndogDev

      Re: i did this when i was younger

      We all did it when we were younger, sorry, older. It's called bragging.

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