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Brexit and Windows 10 stories dominated reader discussions in 2016. It’s no surprise that the departure from the European Union of its second biggest economy should be a major talking point. It was the biggest political shock in the UK since 1945, few UK readers are unaffected, and it most likely terminates a political project …

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To sum it all up

In 2016

We hated Windows 10 even more vocally, voted in two earth shattering polls. Well we voted with either [delete as appropriate] good , bad or F**k me results and finally mourned the untimely death amongst one of the good guys on the El Reg staff.

Now what can we look forward to in 2017?

The Cutting of the first sod in 'that wall'?

HS2 Abandonded

All Broadband Electrification projects stopped

Heathrow Runway 3 delayed to 2050

Inflation at 5%

Southern Guards still in dispute this time next year.

and not forgetting

Article 50 triggered and the EU getting really uppity with Teresa May and BoJo.

Merkel voted out of office and Le Pen winning in France.

Some good, some bad then. You choose which.

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Now what can we look forward to in 2017?

2017:Lots of companies moving to "the cloud"

2018: Lots of companies realizing why they moved off the cloud in the 1970s

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HS2, HR3, (and their satanic cousin, Hinkley Point C) are all infrastructure projects with big implications.

Whilst I don't support any of them, they are going ahead regardless (and will do so, whoever wins the next general election). Of course, with more than a few Remainers in the Tory party, their realistic majority is wafer thin, so you might want to add a "UK general election" prediction to your list.

How that will ACTUALLY turn out I can't say, other than to suggest that betting against the opinion polls is probably wise.

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Charlie Stross has an interesting set of predictions for the start of next year, which will make you really, really hope he's wrong.

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Errrr France isn't a full member of NATO/OTAN. DeGaulle made sure of that.

Otherwise Stross has only a few days to go before the first one of his predictions comes true or falls flat on its face.

The next few years will be tough that is for soure.

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Expected more effort from Charlie. It's what you'd expect to hear from mates in the pub and he runs out of gags by April. Houllebecq's Soumission is as plausible and if possible even more scary.

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"Now what can we look forward to in 2017?"

My 2017 prediction is this: Oracle's Larry will instigate yet another pointless and vexatious lawsuit (plural).

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Re: Inflation at 5%

Looks like it's jumped a bit in the last 12 months but 5%?!

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Is there a pool or any predictions on when the country's surfing habits -courtesy of the Snooper's Charter- gets published on Pastebin? I'll have a guess at August.

Or sold to Google, of course, but it'll take a while for us to find out about that, probably.

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"Errrr France isn't a full member of NATO/OTAN. DeGaulle made sure of that."

As far as I'm aware, France joined NATO as a full member when the organisation was founded in 1949. In 1966 De Gaulle withdrew the country from the integrated military structure but remaining a member of the political side of things. In the 1990s France became more involved in NATO again and has participated fully in the organisation since 2009.

Source: http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_52044.htm?selectedLocale=en

Here's a pint to welcome the new year.

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"which will make you really, really hope he's wrong."

His prediction of a King George IX shows he's got a poor grasp of either C20th history or Roman numerals - or maybe both.

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One thing would help me this year: IoT to be subject to stringent web security checks to prevent 'clusterfucking' (large scale DDOS) attacks, as we saw in 2016.

As Dabbsy wrote, "IoT simply can’t possibly go mainstream until cross-platform interconnectivity, data security and air noise issues are solved – and so far, no IoT product manufacturer seems remotely interested in doing anything about them."

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As Dabbsy wrote, "

Speaking of Dabbsy.. where the hell is he? Last article was at the end of November and since then.... zilch.

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I'd love to see a top 20...

Of most up/downvoted forum users...

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@malle-herbert Re: I'd love to see a top 20...

m-h,

indeed, funnily enough re the Brexit 'debate' (stop sniggering at the back), I am still surprised how quickly I found many fellow commentards making enormous (and erroneous) assumptions about WHY I voted the way I did.

All the more so as I tried to debate the points concerned from one or more viewpoints.

I thought it was quite amazing re the ratios of +/- to each post made.

Btw have one on me...

Cheers,

Jay

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Re: I'd love to see a top 20...

2016 was my biggest year ever for downvotes, a few thousand,, I even lost my Silver Badge... And unlike Jake etc I don't intentionally troll....

It just appears that people have different points of view, of which many seem to be more about " a false sense of poltical correctness" or ideals that stream from the typical mass concensus rather than from personal convinction.

It's interesting to see how the Up/Down votes have changed the forum.. I get a feeling that far too many posts are just made to intentionally gain Upvotes rather than for adding anything that actually furthers discussion..

Nowadays, I just read the main article and maybe the first couple of posts before the flamewars start.

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Re: @malle-herbert I'd love to see a top 20...

Oddly, I couldn't find any post from you whatsoever where you made any attempt at all to explain why you voted Leave.

Just that you werent racist or wanting Johnny Foreigner out.

There is an implication that you don't approve of any mutually-agreed standards. Very odd position to take.

If you did make such a post, would you be so kind as to direct interested parties towards it?

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Re: I'd love to see a top 20...

Prompted me to look.

Biggest upvotes for harshly criticising Microsoft, followed by criticising the government, followed by criticising Andrew Orlowski.

Biggest downvote surprisingly not for support of brexit but for suggesting those wanting to travel to Mars where they would likely experience a very short and unpleasant rest of their lives were loons.

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Re: I'd love to see a top 20...

A quick look at my 2016 posts:

Most net upvotes A) calling the NSA nitwits for assuring Mr. and Mrs. John Q. Public that their spytools (in this case Equation Group) would never get out into the wild for use against said honest citizens and B) pointing out that to avoid having their careers and assets run through a meatgrinder, the Virgin America air crew and airline had no other real choice than threatening to divert a flight over an alledged banned Galaxy Note 7 that was onboard.

Net downvotes: A) Mentioning that McDonald's is actually France's best market per capita and the reasons why it is popular there, even though that country is famous for haute cuisine and B) The if the U.S. pulled its troops out of Europe, we'd probably be compelled to put them back in within 15-20 years

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Re: I'd love to see a top 20...

You can lose a Silver badge? Was this a totting up thing or did you cross some threshold and perhaps receive a strongly worded email explaining what it was?

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"2016 was my biggest year ever for downvotes, a few thousand,, I even lost my Silver Badge..."

No, downvotes do not count towards anything, bar some minor ego bruises.

You need to make 100 posts in a year to regain your badge. As explained here:

m.theregister.co.uk/2012/02/01/register_comments_guidelines/

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@AC: Re: @malle-herbert I'd love to see a top 20...

AC,

thanks for your input, not too sure what you mean re approval of mutually-agreed standards (if it's about useless kettles/toasters/hoovers, then I don't)

I am not sure how to put links here to specific posts, some I have found:

Paper mountain, hidden Brexit: How'd you say immigration control would work?

4 months

fruitoftheloon

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@Richard: Re: @Charlie @AC 20-23 pages for EU citizens

Richard,

THE thrust, there weren't any other points at all?

Do you genuinely think that most folk who voted exit did it because of the fairly shite campaign of the out crowd?

Can you remind me of the POSITIVE elements of the remain pitch for why we shouldn't leave, because I sure as fk can't remember any....

Over to you boyo!

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Doctor Syntax: Re: @Loyal Commenter: Parliamentary negligence

Ds,

I haven't told you anything, what I sought to do was to share my (I thought reasonable) opinions about the shenanigans so far...

I doubt anyone who voted was 'sold a pup' by their fave group, i.e. in or out, I thought the BS quotient was quite high on both sides, of course the remain bunch had the in-built advantage of being able to guarantee the world would end if we didn't obey their sage thoughts, and for good measure they also thought it prudent to blackmail us in adavance lest we have our an opinion that differed from theirs!

Re Mr. Gove MP being on the sidelines, I agree with you completely, may I suggest you point out the PM's error next time you are sharing a glass at Chequers, undoubtedly she will amend her omission sharpish.

Cheers,

Jay

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@Loyal Commenter: Re: Parliamentary negligence

Lc,

Will you please calm down a bit, take a few long, slow breaths eh?

If I may correct some elements of your post and make a few pertinent observations:

- we don't know what is going to happen yet re 'our rights'

- you do realise that some of our brethren did work in Europe/marry foreigners/study in Europe before we joined the Common Market?

- err, we aren't having a recession, would you be happier if we did?

- the referendum may even have positive results, such as Heads of State pointing out that the EU fiddles with stuff that should not be its' concern (light bulbs, hoovers, now maybe kettles & toasters too),

- The commission may finally figure out that the Euro isn't working out for many countries (that don't speak German), so perhaps they should think about changing course (don't laugh, it'll happen at some point)

- the World Bank recently acknowledged that sacrificing Greece to save the Euro probably wasn't their finest hours (not a typo)

- Mr Gove can't really have much involvement with 'making it happen', due to being not quite as clever as he thought he was, plus he's no longer a Minister of State

- as to the 'if you voted Exit, you must be a thick, racist eejit', err f-off matey, you are painting with a very broad brush, ironically showing YOUR prejudices

- I have no doubt some folk assumed that an 'exit' would mean foreigners should offski sooner rather than later, I believe such views to be fundamentally wrong, childish, stupid, inconsiderate and very UN-BRITISH

Has it occured to you that many people who voted to leave the EU (not Europe) may have many reasons NOT related to EU citizens living here and immigration in general to vote as they did?

Ooi I can get by in French and German, my wife is pretty good at Italian and Spanish, we had our recent honeymoon in Paris, I love French wine & food, German beer & wine. We have three cars, two built in Germany, one in Austria (with German oily bits). We hope to retire somewhere in Italy or southern France.

Hopefully that gets the point across that we ARE NOT ANTI EUROPE.

Europe is great, the EU ISN'T!

Cheers,

Jay

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Dr. Paul, Re: Parliamentary negligence

Dr. Paul,

I didn't miss that at all.

Also one has a pretty good knowledge of stats and associated mathematics, with a general leaning in the direction of risk and probability.

As to the voted for change being 'stupid' because it was a small margin, how so?

Would you maintain your position re the stupidity of the vote if it had been to remain, by the same margin?

It matters not if the margin was 5, 5k or 5m votes, it was a referendum, and folk voted as they pleased, that's how a democracy functions, for a given 'value' of democracy of course...

As I have stated hereabouts before, I voted for out, but would have been perfectly happy if it went the other way, life goes on, the planet still rotates, politcians do what they do best (preserve their benefits, build empires, pretent to listen to the plebs...)

The march for europe site isn't doing much from here at the moment, I'll check it out later.

I wonder (half in jest), if it should have named 'pray for europe'...

Thanks for your engagement here btw.

Regards,

Jay

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Re: @AC: @malle-herbert I'd love to see a top 20...

I am not sure how to put links here to specific posts

The permalink is on the timestamp for each post. Right-click and "copy link location", or whatever your particular browser's version of that is.

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Re: I'd love to see a top 20...

Yup I tell you, life is hard being a Microsoft fanboy ('a' or 'the'?) here at the Reg.

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Re: I'd love to see a top 20...

> Nowadays, I just read the main article and maybe the first couple of posts before the flamewars start.

Nowadays, I read the article, skip the first few posts to get directly into the flamewars ... the joy of upsetting "whoever" or getting fsck'd by others is priceless ... and I do not care about badges, up or downvotes ... I see it as a comment@rd game, sometimes you win, other times you lose ... who cares ... that is el'reg for me .... and I never stop learning thanks to you lot, thanks a million to all for that, BTW, Happy New Year ... and don't take my rants personal, they're not, remember, I don't know you ;-).

PS: Please DON'T UPVOTE THIS - it is not meant to be a cheesy up-vote-generator.

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Re: @malle-herbert I'd love to see a top 20...

I have (and will continue to) made a point of avoiding any Brexit related forum like the plague.

Mostly because the antis are that odd breed: A bunch of raving fascists ("WE WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK, HOW YOU SHOULD VOTE AND WHAT SORT OF GOVERNMENT YOU SHOULD HAVE BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE SAY IS RIGHT!") who make a point of calling anyone who disagrees with them a Nazi.

The obvious paradox is too likely to make my head explode.

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Re: I'd love to see a top 20...

" Please DON'T UPVOTE THIS - it is not meant to be a cheesy up-vote-generator."

I always post as anonymous because that helps to avoid people's prejudgements based on your username. I want people to consider the merit, or otherwise, of that specific post - rather than being biased by one of mine they (dis)agreed with last week.

It often surprises me how a post is received - both in (un)popularity or silence. It's almost like chaos theory that depends on a starting set of conditions that have too many unknowns.

Obviously if you get in early you will tend to attract more reaction. Otherwise being the tail-ender starting a new thread when things have quietened down a bit gets it noticed.

Like the days of usenet - the trick is to see who is making a reasonable debating reply that recognises the grey areas and helps widen everyone's education.

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The trick is.... (previous a. c. comment)

"the trick is to see who is making a reasonable debating reply that recognises the grey areas and helps widen everyone's education."

Take my upvote for this old-fashioned sentiment. There is gold in them hills (but you sometimes have to dig through a lot of dirt).

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"I always post as anonymous because that helps to avoid people's prejudgements based on your username."

Not really. I tend to avoid anonymous posts as if a person isn't willing to put their "name" to what they write...

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Re: I'd love to see a top 20...

"Not really. I tend to avoid anonymous posts as if a person isn't willing to put their "name" to what they write..."

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

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@Moiety: Re: @AC: @malle-herbert I'd love to see a top 20...

Moiety,

AHA! thanks very much.

Cheers,

Jay

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Re: @Moiety: @AC: @malle-herbert I'd love to see a top 20...

Only found it by accident. Possibly a UX expert made it.

I do enjoy subtlety, though. Wouldn't be El Reg if it was standard.

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It's not "Fake News"

It is "disseminating misinformation"

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It's "dissenting information".

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Re: It's not "Fake News"

It's "dissenting information".

Absolutely not. I have no problem with someone presenting a sane and reasoned argument supported by facts that support independent validation - that is information too. The Trump approach to reality, however, is not what I would call information because that was about as true as most of the assertions bandied around as facts by Brexit supporters which were quickly abandoned once they'd won.

Fake News is quite simply lies, let's not give it a fancy name.

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100% certain

that in 2017, The Register will not be receiving invitations to Apple events

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that in 2017, The Register will not be receiving invitations to Apple events

The full extent of Chinese subsidy of Apple assembly in China is now known, and it looks as if now the home grown industry is really taking off (Huawei, Xiaomi, for a start) the Chinese government may not be quite so keen on retaining their business.

Which could mean that in 2017 Apple starts to need friends...so let's make that >99% certain and hedge our bets a bit shall we?

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> The full extent of Chinese subsidy of Apple assembly in China is now known

Hmmm, if China doesn't want to build them, and Samsung don't want supply critical parts might we have seen peak i-Thingy?

(oh no, commenting about Apple, bang goes my up/down ratio :-)

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"Which could mean that in 2017 Apple starts to need friends.."

Apple could start that process by not alienating their own customers with their latest product designs. Yes, the shiny new Macbook Pro can now do the party trick of sliding under a door by virtue of its thinness but it's a significantly less practical machine than its immediate predecessor (and don't get me started on the supposedly "courageous" decision to remove the universal headphone jack on the iPhone 7 - all is being sacrificed to the Cult of Thin).

Hint: buy the 2015 Macbook Pro while you still can if you want to do serious design, development or music production work.

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What really gets my goat about the headphones is, I don't want to have to worry about CHARGING SODDING HEADPHONES. They're JUST HEADPHONES dagnabit. Give me a slightly inconvenient wire over a massively inconvenient chance of going FLAT, any day.

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Re: 100% certain. What's not to like about the new Macbook Pro?

Let's be thankful for that.

That no technical journo at El Reg has the ability through lying gritted teeth to say how wonderful the new Macbook Pro 2016 zero travel, stubbed fingers, clattery clack Keyboard is.

How innovative that touchbar is for touch typists.

How fcuking wonderful it is to have the SSD soldered/intergrated to the motherboard and if thats not bad enough, at a crucial flex point in the motherboard design, right below an ideal place for a coffee spill, to run through the keyboard and destroy it. Destroying even the remotest hope that the £200-£500 Appe Store charge to connect to Apple's proprietary in-house 'rescue' connector might work. All designed to make Applecare a compulsory add-on.

Apple's 'Pro' £1750-£2500 Sealed up, 4 year shelf life devices - which have batteries glued in so well, Apple themselves will struggle to recycle the Aluminium machined bases.

Each design having minute changes to connectors/its framework, so that no part of the last 4 iterations, fits an older model. Not even one USB 3.0 type A port. Magsafe gone.

What's not to like? (without lying through gritted teeth). Thank God El Reg doesn't want or need an invite from Tim Cook. The quicker this current 'Pro' design dies the better.

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2016: The Movie (Trailer)

Dear team at El Reg, fellow commentards: have a good 2017 anyway!

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Difficult to understand how the M$ Win10 clusterfuck didn't affect more people...???

No Hospitals / Clinics, Law firms, Politicians, golf club elites or their kids got hit???

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Re: Difficult to understand how the M$ Win10 clusterfuck didn't affect more people...???

All the hospitals I've visited in the last couple of years have been running XP, at least in the wards.

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Re: Difficult to understand how the M$ Win10 clusterfuck didn't affect more people...???

Or they did get upgraded, it worked, and they didn't see the need to make a nonsensical drama about it.

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Re: Difficult to understand how the M$ Win10 clusterfuck didn't affect more people...???

Weirdly ive seen terminals in shops running 2008 server. Waterstones (last week in trafford centre) had a machine (not running terminal services either) that had a 2008 server machine. Surprised me at time. Ive also seen xp all over the place. Build a bear window signs had updates balloons obscuring the bottom corner of their displays (w7).

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Can we have more technical articles?

I don't know if they will feature in 2017's hot list, but I do love a piece of well researched geekery. I don't think you can have enough of them. (Imagine what we could do if all the energy that went into DevOps and IOT were harnessed for good!)

The other thing I love on here is that beneath the cheeky headlines (don't stop) is a rare puddle of journalistic integrity and intelligence backed up by a commentard army which makes it just as rewarding to read below the story.

Ta lots.

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