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The UK has voted to leave the European Union, confounding the polls, the "experts" and the British establishment in the biggest turnout for a vote here in 24 years. Prime Minister David Cameron announced his resignation at 8:30am this morning. The count stands at 51.9 per cent Leave, and 48.1 per cent remain – and more than a …

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  1. Vladimir Plouzhnikov

    Well, when you do something and Trump praises you - you know, you've done the wrong thing...

    1. Nick Ryan Silver badge

      If a racist like Farage is happy about it as well then you know you're in real trouble.

      1. boltar Silver badge

        "If a racist like Farage is happy about it as well then you know you're in real trouble."

        Are you another idiot who can't tell the difference between race and nationality?

        1. Rich 11 Silver badge

          Are you another idiot who can't tell the difference between race and nationality?

          That status is reserved for those who saw his Breaking Point poster and couldn't see anything wrong with it.

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        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          No Farage and UKIP pals asctually can't tell the difference between nationality and racism

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            "No Farage and UKIP pals asctually can't tell the difference between nationality and racism"

            Farage is married to a German woman, he knows the difference between racism and nationalism. Do you know the difference between UKIP and the National Front? The trick has been to propagandize against UKIP as though its the National Front, and you seem to have fallen for that.

            "Put Britain First" is not a terrorist cry. It's the majority view of UK.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              <<"Put Britain First" is not a terrorist cry.>>

              And yet it was shouted by an assailant while stabbing and shooting a politician. Are terrorists only defined by the colour of their skin?

              1. Mi Tasol

                <<"Put Britain First" is not a terrorist cry.>>

                Many Christians object to Muslims saying "god is great" but are quite happy to say hallelujah which effectively means the same thing (and even refers to the exact same God).

                Just because one nutter says "Put Britain First" does not automatically make everyone who wants to put Britain first a nutter any more that Trump saying "America first" makes all Americans nutters

                1. Teropher

                  "Many Christians object to Muslims saying "god is great" but are quite happy to say hallelujah which effectively means the same thing (and even refers to the exact same God)."

                  Wrong on ALL counts. Allahu akbar means "God is greater" not God is great. Meaning to Islam that Allah is greater than any other god.

                  "Hallelujah" is from the Hebrew word Hallel and is used to express praise or joy, the Greek form is Alleluia.

                  Allah is NOT the same God of Christians, The Quran describes Allah as the best deceiver there is, a liar who is not above using the same evil and wicked schemes of his opponents. For example, the Quran calls Allah a makr, in fact the best makr there is: But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30.

                  In the Catholic and Christian faiths God cannot be deceived nor does he deceive. "We believe 'because of the authority of God himself who reveals them, who can neither deceive nor be deceived'" (Catechism of the Catholic Church #156) The Muslim god Allah is NOT the same as the Christian God.

                  1. Snake

                    Sure...

                    As an ex-Christian speaking: the Christian god not evil (because evil, apparently, appeared out of nowhere even though Christians claim their god as omnipotent and "all good")?

                    You just keep right on telling yourself that, my good man. :rolleyes: You have never spoken to a Jewish holy man, have you?

              2. Anonymous Coward
                Anonymous Coward

                "And yet it was shouted by an assailant while stabbing and shooting a politician."

                Who by all accounts is a disturbed individual who might just as well shouted "down with the lizard people!" as anything else.

        4. Nick Ryan Silver badge

          "If a racist like Farage is happy about it as well then you know you're in real trouble."

          Are you another idiot who can't tell the difference between race and nationality?

          No, however unless discussing technical details it's usually best to communicate in commonly understood or used language, even if it's misused.

          So how would you define a "race"? :) [honest question] A set of people sharing a similar average skin tone, a set of people where the genetic similarity is over a certain percentage from another arbitrary set of people, a group of genetically varied individuals who happen to believe in the same invisisible friends or those through luck or circumstance happened to be born within the same, often rather arbitrary, geographic area of the same planet (or where their parents or other ancestors were born there)?

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        > If a racist like Farage

        Even more ironic - his surname is French Huguenot and so the vast likeihood is that he's a descendant of migrants from France..

        1. JeffyPoooh Silver badge
          Pint

          Farage = Huguenot vs.DNA

          "Farage... ...surname is French Huguenot and so the vast likelihood is that he's a descendant of migrants from France."

          DNA testing often reveals that family trees have branched off in unexpected directions. Although his surname is Huguenot, he's just as likely to have undocumented Polish plumbers, gypsies, and lizard people in his actual, biological, ancestral lineage.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Farage = Huguenot vs.DNA

            "he's just as likely to have undocumented Polish plumbers, gypsies, and lizard people in his actual, biological, ancestral lineage."

            You left out the bottom feeding catfish (that mouth), slime-moulds and fecal-feeding fungi.

      3. TheVogon Silver badge

        "If a racist like Farage"

        Can't recall him ever making a negative comment on race - perhaps you could enlighten us?

        LOL at the CAC40 and DAX dropping substantially more than the FTSE. That tells you who our freedom really hurts....

        All we need now to rub it in is to win the Euros....

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          CAC40 and DAX dropping substantially more than the FTSE

          Well duh, yes, because FTSE companies are priced in pounds sterling. Factor in the amount the pound dropped in value and you'll find what the effect on the value of the companies really is.

          1. TheVogon Silver badge

            Re: CAC40 and DAX dropping substantially more than the FTSE

            "Well duh, yes, because FTSE companies are priced in pounds sterling"

            Well, Duh, FTSE companies are mostly not listed on the DAX or CAC....

    2. T_o_u_f_ma_n

      Well, when you do something and Trump, Le Pen, Hofer and Wilders praise you - you know, you've done the wrong thing..

      FIFY

    3. aBloke FromEarth

      Putin seems pretty content with the situation today.

      1. LDS Silver badge

        He knows the old Latin saying "Divide et impera".

      2. Voland's right hand Silver badge

        Putin seems pretty content with the situation today.

        He is financing one way or another some of that across Europe in a tit-for-tat response for Ukraine and the sanctions. While his fingerprints are not on the money trail leading to Farage and Co (still, one wonders why Farage refuses to publish his tax return), he has given a 26M load to Le Pen as well as quite a few handouts to other "interesting suspects".

  2. Alexander J. Martin

    There's little so depressing as the sanctimony of those who, the referendum having not gone as they wanted, wish to simply assert their moral superiority and say I told you so.

    1. Fink-Nottle

      Yeh ... those sactimonious financial markets.

      1. NotBob

        The markets were bound to do some funny things no matter the result. Hold on to your nuts when you look at your portfolio for a while, and the markets will rebound.

        Not the first time the markets got spooked...

        1. Omgwtfbbqtime Silver badge

          @NotBob

          True - I give it three weeks before stability returns. Once the gamblers have screwed every last penny of profit they can from the instability.

          Then it will be business as usual when everyone has worked out the sky hasn't fallen.

        2. Mi Tasol

          And so far no more than when Britain joined the EU

          All the financial (self proclaimed) genius of that time also predicted that all those London banks and businesses would run off to Frankfurt and other places, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

      2. bazza Silver badge

        @Fink-Nottle,

        Been meaning to ask, how are the newts? I trust they're basking contentedly!

        1. Fink-Nottle

          > Been meaning to ask, how are the newts? I trust they're basking contentedly!

          @bazza : A bit of a frost, old bean. The newt studies were funded by an EU grant, dont'ya know. A telegram is m-p-h-ing to Wooster's man as we speak. Jeeves will know what to do; he eats tons of fish.

    2. edge_e
      Childcatcher

      bit early for I told you so

      I'll just get on with my life hoping I was wrong

    3. inmypjs Silver badge

      "There's little so depressing"

      Strong the butt hurt here be yes.

      Democracy happened suck it down.

      1. Mark 85 Silver badge

        Yes, indeed it happened. The bigger question remaining is "will the powers that be follow the will of the people?". While it's not the "mandate" (more than X% for), it's still a majority.

        If you do exit, will the inner city London types start a referendum to withdraw? I'm seeing at least 3 States here across the pond that are pushing for secession.

    4. Mi Tasol

      Yep

      Just like certain people refuse to admit that the current government in London was very deliberately elected by the majority of voters in the majority of electorates those with inflated opinions on their intelligence and personal value will not accept that the same applies to this referendum.

      Its called democracy and if you hypocrites don't like it then stiff.

  3. DrStrangeLug

    We all know what happened

    The real issue here wasnt the economy, wasnt security or the future. it was "oo, there's a lot of folk around lately with strange accents."

    1. Alister Silver badge

      Re: We all know what happened

      Exactly. If ever proof were needed, this shows just how much xenophobic bigotry is still present in Britain.

      1. m0rt Silver badge

        Re: We all know what happened

        So this is what it has come to, has it? One half of the country considers the other racist?

        So Exit: Racist?

        Leave: Elites?

        bigot noun [C] uk /ˈbɪɡ.ət/ us /ˈbɪɡ.ət/ disapproving

        › a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who does not like other people who have different beliefs or a different way of life.

        Bigotry exists on both sides if you ask me. Yes there are bigots and racists in the leave camp. But to tar just over half the population that way...seriously?

        1. Alister Silver badge

          Re: We all know what happened

          Bigotry exists on both sides if you ask me. Yes there are bigots and racists in the leave camp. But to tar just over half the population that way...seriously?

          At no point did I suggest that all Leave voters were either racists or bigots.

          However you cannot deny that a significant portion of the country voted to Leave based purely on the Immigration issue, and the completely false premise that "we can control our own borders now" as I heard quoted on the radio this morning.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: We all know what happened

            "However you cannot deny that a significant portion of the country voted to Leave based purely on the Immigration issue, and the completely false premise that "we can control our own borders now" as I heard quoted on the radio this morning."

            There may be an element of that, however, do the results back that up?

            Given the results, I would suggest that areas of the country that haven't felt the benefits of "the economy" over the last two/three terms of government and are used to local companies making statements about the need for X or Y before closing a local factory are a little jaded by the remain campaign.

            The turnout alone vs general elections suggested people cared about the result because they thought it would make a difference which begs the question why?

            If this is framed purely as an immigration issue and the economic/establishment issues are ignored, then the UK is in for troubled times indeed

          2. fruitoftheloon
            Happy

            @Alister: Re: We all know what happened

            Alister,

            Please share the statistically valid info evidencing your statement that 'loads of folk voted to leave with immigration being there primary concern?'

            Either way, what is wrong with them having an opinion that you disagree with?

            Kind regards,

            Jay

          3. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: We all know what happened

            "the completely false premise that "we can control our own borders now""

            That's not false - it's absolutely correct - we CAN now fully control our borders - and we couldn't from within the EU.

            If our government make the required effort and investment to do so is another matter - Don't forget that Labour under Bliar deliberately let in hundreds of thousands from 3rd world countries in the hope of gaining votes....

            1. Simon Westerby 1

              Re: We all know what happened

              But we can't do it NOW .. we can do in two and a bit years AFTER we have negotiated an exit.

              But not now - for now its just eactly the same as yesteraday and teh day before that.

            2. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: We all know what happened

              That's not false - it's absolutely correct - we CAN now fully control our borders - and we couldn't from within the EU.

              WRT controlling borders, I presume there's a chance that a Brexit now means that the agreement we have with the French that means UK border control have a station in France (and possibly, by implication, caused the migrant "village" to spring up in Calais) could come to an end.

              How much would the French government like to wave through anyone heading to Britain and let them deal with us in our own "controlled" borders. Therefore moving all the migrants, camps and troubles from Calais to Dover?

              1. boltar Silver badge

                Re: We all know what happened

                "How much would the French government like to wave through anyone heading to Britain and let them deal with us in our own "controlled" borders. "

                Newsflash - we were never part of Schengen anyway. Controlling our borders relates to unrestricted movement of EU citizens, not non EU or illegals.

              2. R3sistance

                Re: We all know what happened

                How much would the French government like to wave through anyone heading to Britain and let them deal with us in our own "controlled" borders. Therefore moving all the migrants, camps and troubles from Calais to Dover?

                Our agreements with France over border control are not reliant on the EU and do not involve the EU.

        2. Just Enough
          Facepalm

          Re: We all know what happened

          What it is come to is a large percentage of the country are not necessarily racists, but idiots who bought the lies that the Leave campaigners unashamedly spun.

          Leaving the EU will not address any of the challenges facing the UK, and the rest of Europe, in the 21st century. It will just make all of us the weaker in tackling them.

          But people believed it when they were told that leaving the EU would protect us from an imminent invasion of millions of Turks, and put £350m a week into the NHS. Both of these were unapologetic lies that they are already started back pedalling on.

          And guess what? Those funny accented people that you have been fooled into thinking are the source of your woes? They're not going back to where they came from. So if that is what you voted for, you've been a mug. They've now got jobs and are a part of the economy that this vote has done its best to cripple. No-one is going to force them to leave, any more than the millions of UK citizens in Europe are going to be forced back home.

          And if you trust the likes of Boris or, god help us, Farage, to set up a fair society with the same progressive regulations the EU has spent decades creating, you're an even bigger mug.

          1. Mr Commenty McComentface
            WTF?

            Re: We all know what happened

            "What it is come to is a large percentage of the country are not necessarily racists, but idiots who bought the lies that the Leave campaigners unashamedly spun."

            I think roughly 52% of the country would say "fuck you" to that unbelievably arrogant statement.

            Just because the country voted to leave the EU (not exactly resoundingly voted but there we go) against YOUR personal beliefs does not make them idiots, racists, biogots or any of the other deeply bitter and nasty epithets people seem to be chucking around right now. You choose to live in this so-called Democracy, how about dealing with it rather than being unpleasant about the majority of it when things don't go your way?

            To my mind, the real disgrace here is simply this. We were told to make the biggest single socio-economic and political decision of the the next god knows how many generations and BOTH sides gave absolutely zero credible or useful facts. The whole shower of them both resorted to childish "he's lying, no he's lying more" school ground BS. We deserved better and they failed to deliver.

            The whole damn lot of them should be sacked. Every single one of our Political Overlords, regardless of stance, should be out on their ear for epically failing the people by failing to prepare them properly for the enormity of this decision.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: We all know what happened

              "You choose to live in this so-called Democracy, how about dealing with it rather than being unpleasant about the majority of it when things don't go your way?"

              That's exactly why we should have stayed!

            2. Mark 85 Silver badge

              @Mr Commenty McComentface -- Re: We all know what happened

              Well said. I see the same BS here in the States. Just shouting and fingerpointing. No real discussion by any side. I daresay that the end of civilization and democracy as we knew it are coming. No longer do we have intelligent debates. We have sound bites. We have blame given for everything and no responsibility taken for anything. Examining agendas is at best, difficult since usually one should "follow the money", but many times, that's very well hidden by those the crave power.

              The world has changed. I'm not sure it's for the betterment of the population at this point or for the betterment of those who seek to be masters, either politically or monetarily.

          2. itzman
            Paris Hilton

            Re: We all know what happened

            interersting to analyse your post.

            'they' are ,'stupid', 'believed lies' and 'shouldn't have been allowed to interfere with the proper way of things'

            a more heartfelt cry for undemocratic fascism would be hard to find.

            Oh, hang on wasn't that one of the 'lies' the leavers were telling about the EU?

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