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Those of you planning a hiking holiday on Mars will be pleased to learn that Ordnance Survey has produced a handy map of the Red Planet, or at least a 3,672 by 2,721km chunk of it. OS used elevation data from the Mars Global Surveyor's Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter (MOLA) and official International Astronomical Union and U.S. …

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Re: #wtf: Royal ORDNANCE survey of Mars ???!!!!

I had to look that up. TIL the difference between "ordnance" and "ordinance".

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Re: #wtf: Royal ORDNANCE survey of Mars ???!!!!

The Ordnance survey is famously "the survey by the Board of Ordnance" so we know where to site artillery in case of invasion. Which is why the Ordnance survey still proudly and prominately shows the War Department logo (the famous English broadhead arrow) in the Ordnance survey logo which is displayed on the front of every map they print.

Having invaded virtually every country on earth at some point new frontiers obviously await her Majesties armed forces!

Ok, more seriously this is good practice for the map makers, though it's probably going to be some time before they can check the measurements with a theodolite to make sure the map is passably accurate. It's quite amusing to reflect that it's likely that mission planners may well end up using these maps of Mars in mission planning in the future because they are going to be readily available and easily comprehensible!

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Re: #wtf: Royal ORDNANCE survey of Mars ???!!!!

Which is why the Ordnance survey still proudly and prominately shows the War Department logo (the famous English broadhead arrow)

Not so, the OS' whalesong boutique produced this last year some time.

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Re: #wtf: Royal ORDNANCE survey of Mars ???!!!!

That new logo reminds me of the ink blot t-shirts referenced in the porn filter comments, I'm amazed they managed to slip it through.

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Quorn?

So that rules out animal life on Mars.

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Re: Quorn?

Is that because of the food or the hunt?

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I aint gettin' on the b ark until they puts some BEEF on the A ark!

And lamb and porkers.

After no manned mission would be possible without BACON, right?

That map is seriously deficient. So sign of where the salt mines or oak forests are yet. How do they expect us to smoke the porkers???

And no sign of a PH, a PC or T anywhere?? Where's a man gonna go?

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That's pretty cool. When are google going to do a streetmap?

http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1598/25012985956_6622739bba_k.jpg

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I'm really looking forward to craterview.

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"When are google going to do a streetmap?"

Years ago...

Google Mars

I've no idea why OS have bothered unless they thought astronauts might need a horrible projection/datum in space as well as at home. At least on Mars there isn't any GPS yet so they won't look quite as outdated...

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Never underestimate the pleasure of taking an OS map off the bookshelf (sandwiched in next to two dozen other ones) and unfolding it on the kitchen table to plan your day out with your Dad.

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I've no idea why OS have bothered

How about because they were asked? And also because they know a lot about maps.

Just compared the image with Google Mars and the OS winds hands down on legibility and orientation and that's because they've taken the trouble of not making something for computers that people may or may not be able to use.

There's a lot to admire in Google's mapping stuff but they're not designed for serious navigation.

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The client - Dr Grindrod - is reported to have said that "he had always admired OS maps and pointed out that they are good at including lots of information in an easily read format"

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"I've no idea why OS have bothered"

Maybe they've managed to sell a licensing agreement to StreetMap.

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"the OS winds hands down"

Sounds painful. There should be laws against that sort of thing.

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You do understand that it is google that use a "horrible projection"? The world is not remotely a sphere.

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"I've no idea why OS have bothered"

They are being privatised. All publicity is good publicity.

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Transverse Mercator is the perfect projection for a long, thin, north-south country, and is the perfect projection for global mapping, slicing the globe into north-south segments.

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I've no idea why OS have bothered

Because it's there. You don't have to do something just because somebody's told you to, there's this thing called personal curiosity you know. Without which you wouldn't have any of the technology that allows you to post your disparaging comments here.

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No I know it's not remotely a sphere, that's what wgs84 is for which allows maps to use a standard reference system which all the gadgets output. Perhaps I should have been clearer that my only real gripe with OS is that they refuse to add gps compatible coordinates in the face of overwhelming evidence that that's now how people navigate. The maps, I agree, are otherwise lovely.

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OS MAps are WGS84 compatible (New Ones)

Hello, The new OS maps with the new logo are WGS84 (GPS) compatible. I know this because I was involved in the project that did this!

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Re: OS MAps are WGS84 compatible (New Ones)

Well I think they should release a patch for all the products I've bought over the years...

Thanks, I'll go and buy new maps :)

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I'm waiting for the A-Z

I always get lost on the way to Zaaarrgg Street

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Re: I'm waiting for the A-Z

Yeah, I keep ending up on Aaaaaarg Street by mistake.

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Next step

Uploading it to Curiosity's satnav system.

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Re: Next step

You may have been joking, it's hard to tell, but Curiosity hasn't got SatNav they just drive it about and watch on the cameras and telescopes. I'm not even sure a compass would work on Mars so it's probably all just dead reckoning.

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Pity the poor sod tasked with carrying the concrete for the trig point at the top of Olympus Mons

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#wtf: Royal ORDNANCE survey of Mars ???!!!!

Looks like the UK really have set their hearts on leaving Europe after all, but isn't this taking things a bit far ... ?

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I'd buy the dead tree version

<geekout>

It'd look awesome on my wall as a poster.

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ps. Big version (67MB, 11574x9921 ) here:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1598/25012985956_9f518727ba_o_d.jpg

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Re: I'd buy the dead tree version

I've used pixel2print for posters, not bad and cheap. I got a Soul Eater 40x30 from a jpg for 4 quid.

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Those damn Martians....

Had better have paid HMRC the taxes due for O/S wasting British taxpayers ££'s on this kind of crap.

No wonder UK.Gov is broke

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Re: Those damn Martians....

Nah - the OS hasn't been taxpayer funded for years.

Unlike other things, like the European Space Program - but I'm sure you think that's a waste too...

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Re: Those damn Martians....

Nah - OS hasn't been taxpayer funded for years.

Unlike, y'know, the space program.

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Re: Those damn Martians....

OS hasn't been taxpayer funded for years.

Does that mean that in the event of invasion the Ordnance will have to go down to W H Smith and buy some maps? Or do they aim their guns using Google these days?

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Re: Those damn Martians....

Or do they aim their guns using Google these days?

Umm, guns... Yes... well we've got the ceremonial cannon at Windsor and the Tower...

Real artillery? No, we don't do that anymore, too expensive.

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Re: Those damn Martians....

They'll just get a copy of whatever they need from NIMA/DMA/NGA or whatever the US mapping agency is calling themselves this week.

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@Jelder (S.Pam) Re: Those damn Martians....

Jelder,

I wonder if S.Pam thinks much at all. occasionally...

Cheers,

Jay

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Re: Those damn Martians....

@Alister

Outsourced that department did we?

(I have trouble typing that name ..... dunno why)

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Re: Those damn Martians....

They have paid all the UK taxes due. None. All profits were channelled via Saturn.

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Map for The Martian

That section of Mars is the same part used in the book "The Martian" and covers area used on his road trip.

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Re: Map for The Martian

yup - I spotted that too. I wonder if it was deliberate or perhaps that area of Mars is just "interesting" whether you are an author, a NASA lander or a quiet bunch of Brit cartographers with a dream ...

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prime meridian

I notice that the Mars prime meridian is based on Airy-0, a crater named after a British Astronomer Royal, the choice made by someone from Stanford University.

Do the French have a different prime meridian for Mars ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airy-0

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They built a pub on mars once. It had to close, no-one would use it - no atmosphere.

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Must have been a Wetherspoon's.

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serious question

Does Mars have magnetic poles? I mean, can you take a bearing and then follow it on a compass, because if not, this map isn't much use for hikers.....

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Re: serious question

Just use your GPS ;-)

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Re: serious question

Mars is smaller than Earth and it's planetary core has cooled substantially more than our own. Whilst there is a magnetic field it is substantially weaker than that here.

Stick to the canal towpaths would be my advice.

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Re: serious question

No. They address this in The Martian. With no satnav either, Mark Watney has to navigate through a combination of dead reckoning, rudimentary astronomy and landmarks/surface features.

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