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Redmond's plan to get its code running everywhere took another step forward on Wednesday when it released free versions of Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint for Android phones. Ever since Satya Nadella took the top job at Microsoft he's been banging on about getting its software on every platform. iOS got it first, then …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Don't care, don't want.

    1. Planty Bronze badge

      Me neither. There will be a sting in the tail, nothing is ever free from Microsoft.

      I will stick to Google docs, I know what the deal is, what I am giving up in exchange for what I get

      1. mythicalduck

        Me neither. There will be a sting in the tail, nothing is ever free from Microsoft.

        That's funny, Visual Studio Express is still free, and you can even write commercial software with it; it's been that way for years... Sure it has slightly less functionality, but that's the same as with Office here as far as I can tell.

        I will stick to Google docs, I know what the deal is, what I am giving up in exchange for what I get

        Really? You know exactly what Google does with the data it scrapes from all your documents and emails? Do you work there or something?

      2. RyokuMas
        Devil

        I will stick to Google docs, I know what the deal is, what I am giving up in exchange for what I get

        ... until they change the T&Cs... again

        1. John Bailey

          "... until they change the T&Cs... again"

          Which one.. Google or Microsoft?

          1. RyokuMas
            Happy

            "Which one.. Google or Microsoft?"

            Yes.

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          T&c

          It's not changed for ages, not since the huge consolidate of t&c two and half years ago.

          Ironically you might want to read the scary Microsoft one that appeared in your inbox last week, and went unreported by most of the press. That one is truly scary.

      3. dajames

        Tail?

        There will be a sting in the tail, nothing is ever free from Microsoft.

        If it is indeed true that MS make more money in licensing from every Android sale than from every WinPhone sale, then I can see why they might be very keen to encourage Android sales by offering free software.

        Of course, the thought of (still) being able to lock users into (some version(s) of) their own office applications must have some appeal as well.

      4. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

        "There will be a sting in the tail, nothing is ever free from Microsoft."

        Yes, if it's the same as the tablet version I tried out, it won't let you save a document unless you sign into an MS account first. I have no idea if, once signed in, it will then work even when out of range of a network connection. I really couldn't be arsed to set up an account to try it out when WPS Office does all I need without an account and definitely works while "offline", which in my case is not unusual on my travels.

    2. Bob Vistakin
      Facepalm

      IE Next

      Because showing correctly formed webpages just doesn't give that authentic microsoft experience.

  2. JP19

    "30 OEMs to get them preloaded"

    Oh FFS.

    If it is a free download why the hell does anyone think it is a good idea to package it with the OS so you need root to get rid of it and free up memory for what you do want?

    1. Tom from the States

      Re: "30 OEMs to get them preloaded"

      Microsoft will $weeten the pot for the OEMs. Also, saves download time. Agreed with your line of thinking if you are preventing from uninstalling it.

    2. Paul Shirley

      Re: "30 OEMs to get them preloaded"

      Even worse, if they put it in system space, that's 500meg of flash that could have been allocated to the user partition and after an update it will gobble another 500meg of userspace for the new apks.

      Let's hope they have the sense to not install in system space. And why would anyone want software of typical Microsoft quality running with system privileges anyway?

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: "30 OEMs to get them preloaded"

      ...

      30 OEMs to get them preloaded

      One MS to rule them all,

      and in the darkness bind them.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: "30 OEMs to get them preloaded"

        @ gerdesj

        Expect Google to change the OS so you can unload it :)

    4. Charles Manning

      Oh, how the mighty have fallen

      Anyone remember the times of old, when Microsoft made reasonable software and OEMs loaded piles of shite into the PCs which gave the purchasers a bad experience.

      It seems that MS are having their revenge and have fallen to makers of bloatware for other people's OSs.

  3. Mephistro
    Black Helicopters

    Hmmm... 'Microsoft' and 'free' in the same sentence...

    It's a trap!!!

    1. Planty Bronze badge

      Re: Hmmm... 'Microsoft' and 'free' in the same sentence...

      Of course it's a trap. They lost their grip on the market and need you back using proprietary office formats again. This is the dangly carrot that brings you money back to them. Like a drug dealer, only the first hit is free when it comes to Microsoft.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Hmmm... 'Microsoft' and 'free' in the same sentence...

        You have just been visited by the Magnificent Seven! :D

  4. ratfox

    Well, well…

    Microsoft is slowly changing. Who'd have thought to see this ten years ago?

    1. phil dude
      WTF?

      Re: Well, well…

      But into what?

      Another bastard corporation?

      P.

  5. Bloodbeastterror

    Storage...?

    I don't think MS have a good handle on Android. When even large satnav apps take up maybe 30MB of space, why would a word processing or spreadsheet app occupy way over 100MB? Word has a stupidly unusably large number of functions which 90%+ of users don't know about and don't need. Why not provide a skeleton version more in touch with Android/normal user needs instead of propagating bloatware into the platform?

    1. Kevin Fairhurst

      Re: Storage...?

      The actual Office application side of it is tiny; it's the virtualised version of Windows Mobile that it runs on that takes up the space ;)

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Storage...?

      @ Bloodbeastterror

      How true.

      In true MS bloat style filling your storage space, Quickoffice uses just 9.22MB

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Quickoffice uses just 9.22MB

        To be fair that seems large given it's weedy functionality.

        Still, these office apps are hideously big. Why don't they just do them as web apps?

        1. Yag

          Re: Quickoffice uses just 9.22MB

          Not everyone have and want an unlimited data plan.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Quickoffice uses just 9.22MB

            Yag: "...an unlimited data plan."

            Not to mention that "unlimited" typically means 5 to 6 GB per month, but YMMV.

  6. Evil Auditor Silver badge

    Alternative?

    Just wondering, is there a usable Linux mobile out there?

    1. kryptylomese

      Re: Alternative?

      Troll

      1. Evil Auditor Silver badge

        Re: Alternative?

        Trolling? Yes, a bit.

        Seriously though, I've been using both iOS and Android phones for years. In my opinion, iOS sucks(*). I don't like it. But Android, which I prefer for its functionality, sucks even more.

        (*)Although I believe for the usual user it is quite good and probably better (less troubles) than Androids.

    2. Conor Turton

      Re: Alternative?

      Ubuntu phones are as close as it gets.

  7. largefile

    How's the hate fest going gentlemen? Not a one of you I presume has tried the Office for Android applications. You all just like thrashing Microsoft for the sport of it. No problem....have at it....Microsoft has turned the corner on just about everything you seem to relentlessly dwell upon and no matter what you want to believe, the company has survived and is prospering once again. New leadership, new direction, daily evidence that they are on track.

    It must gall all of you to realize they aren't going to die the death you have prayed would befall them for so long.

    1. kryptylomese

      Why do you care if Microsoft survive or not? The world does not need the company, or its poorly written software.

      1. NumptyScrub

        Why do you care if Microsoft survive or not? The world does not need the company, or its poorly written software.

        You can replace "Microsoft" in that quote with any tech company (Google, Apple, Oracle, Canonical... the list is endless) and it will still parse. We don't need any single tech company, regardless of how you view their products, but more companies means more choice.

        You couldn't get on with Linux?

        Yes, they apparently couldn't. I have the same incredulous look when people tell me how they "couldn't get on with Windows 8". Personal preference is fine; I prefer how 7 did it, and I prefer how Cinnamon does it, but that does not stop me from being able to use Win8 or Unity.

        (Bloodbeastterror didn't mention which distro they tried, but it could well have been Ubuntu running Unity, which seems to generate as much unreasoning hate for the GUI as Win8 does)

    2. Bloodbeastterror

      "Hate fest"...?

      A bit strong, no? I've re-read the comments and yes, there are a few negative ones, but more go along the same lines as mine about bloatware, and there are even a couple praising MS.

      Me, Bill Gates caused the explosion in personal computing, which would never have happened if we had had only OS/2 or Linux. Windows isn't perfect by any means, but at least it's usable.

      (No flame wars, please. I've tried Linux, couldn't get on with it - just personal preference).

      1. kryptylomese

        Re: "Hate fest"...?

        You couldn't get on with Linux? It runs on more computers in the world than any other operating system so you are using it just about everywhere and you just don't realise it.....

        1. TonyJ

          Re: "Hate fest"...?

          Re: "Hate fest"...?

          You couldn't get on with Linux? It runs on more devices in the world than any other operating system so you are using it just about everywhere and you just don't realise it.....

          There you go. Fixed that for you.

          1. kryptylomese

            Re: "Hate fest"...?

            If the device is running Linux then it is a computer which is being used as a device.

            There YOU go - Fixed that for you....

            1. dogged

              Re: "Hate fest"...?

              or it's a dishwasher.

              Go away.

            2. TonyJ

              Re: "Hate fest"...?

              "...If the device is running Linux then it is a computer which is being used as a device.

              There YOU go - Fixed that for you...."

              I am sure, the average person using a set top box, or router fully understands that. Anything to get the year of Linux, eh?

              1. kryptylomese

                Re: "Hate fest"...?

                Year of Linux - Look at the TOP 500 super computer list because that is comprised of very little else!

                Hey and your beloved Microsoft is now releasing apps for Linux so they must be feeling it too.

                1. dogged
                  Mushroom

                  Re: "Hate fest"...?

                  Nobody loves Microsoft, the same way nobody loves British Gas. It's just a company.

                  What can raise strong feelings are fucking infuriating retard linux fanboys who a) have no clue and b) think that by constantly telling everyone to use linux instead of their current choice* of OS they are increasing the use of linux rather than just pissing everyone off and actively harming their "great cause".

                  *or not choice. You tell me to use linux, I tell you to tell that to my CEO and watch him laugh at you for the ignorant shitwit you are, unless you're also planning to write drivers for the pharmaceutical measuring instruments (Kaiser, Brimrose, SimcaQ, Bruker, JDSU etc etc) that we write software to control and manage. You dick.

                  Icon selected because we don't have one that means "fuck off and die".

                  1. TonyJ

                    Re: "Hate fest"...?

                    I don't always agree with you, Dogged. But. Spot on. Upvote from me.

                  2. billium

                    Re: "Hate fest"...?

                    I think Dogged wins the hate fest with his childish drivel.

                  3. kryptylomese

                    Re: "Hate fest"...?

                    Good - Good... Anger leads to hate, hate leads to....

                    You are too late Linux has already won. Having said that Windows is more common (only) on the desktop currently. However, Microsoft has started releasing software for Linux.

                    Is the scientific equipment that you are using installed in a PC or does the PC interface with it. If it is the latter than you can most likely run the software on Linux.

                    Most companies that I have worked for have switched from Windows to Linux to run their software for reliability, scalability, performance and cost effectiveness reasons.

                    I have not selected an icon because it seems to serve little purpose (must be a Windows thing).

                    1. NumptyScrub

                      Re: "Hate fest"...?

                      Most companies that I have worked for have switched from Windows to Linux to run their software for reliability, scalability, performance and cost effectiveness reasons.

                      They must be pretty small companies then; the multinational I work for is still on Windows for the desktop and the majority of servers, because it would cost too much to change. I have yet to find a company that offers (multilingual) Linux training for free, and we have a few thousand people that would need it (including the support staff, many of whom are currently only Windows skilled) :'(

                      I'd be interested in moving over, but it's the situation where you get fucked by the original design choices (aka Windows) and you have to choose between starting over (for several thousand people) or just living with building on your past mistakes and doing what you can. Budgetary restrictions mean that moving to Linux is but a pipe dream at the moment, and looks to remain that way for a while...

                      1. kryptylomese

                        Re: "Hate fest"...?

                        The companies I have worked for are multinationals and here is a list of like minded companies that have switched and for desktops and not just for servers:-

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters

                    2. fruitoftheloon
                      Stop

                      @ kryptylomese Re: "Hate fest"...?

                      kryptylomese,

                      what exactly has Linux 'won'?

                      Just wondered...

                      jay

                      1. kryptylomese

                        Re: @ kryptylomese "Hate fest"...?

                        Simple - It has won global domination (only the desktop to go now which is actually quite a small part)

                    3. dogged

                      Re: "Hate fest"...?

                      I am past caring about zealots like you, with one minor exception.

                      I use debian at home, have done since 1998. I don't believe you've been using linux for a quarter as long because if you had, you would have learned long ago that linux isn't capitalized

                      It is lower-case and has always been lower-case. Being ranted at by you is like being lectured by the technically-illiterate HR person who always asks if I know any "C hash" programmers.

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