back to article Tale of 2 cyber-confabs: Govts, nerds on one side. Shock hotel room searches on the other

Last week, the fourth annual global conference on cybersecurity (GCCS) was held in The Hague in the Netherlands. The two-day conference is put on by a different government each year, starting with the first in London in 2011. It is billed as a place for "representatives from governments, private sector and civil society" to …

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What else did one expect?

Governments want the control of their citizens and non-citizens. Doesn't matter which government as they all want this control. The voice of dissent for privacy and security are ignored and not heard by the governments nor businesses.

Perhaps, someday, when enough businesses have had their customer base stolen and enough customers turn away from the internet like it's a bad part of town...maybe. But until that day, we as users of the internet and online customers are f**ked. And lack of privacy AND security will get worse before it gets better.

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NO MORE!

All tech conferences should boycott the Netherlands until the Dutch government agrees that this was an egregious violation of the rights of the conference attendees, and to never do that again without probable cause that a specific person is going to do "something bad"...

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Sir

The i.net is dead, all hail the e.net.

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really comprehensive article

10/10 Kieren McCarthy

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Re: really comprehensive article

Yes, it was a good article.

I encourage anyone interested in this to become a member of the Internet Society (free, open to all as individuals) and to join the Internet Policy mailing list. While a few of the comments are incomprehensible (I am not familiar with all the jargon of "civil society" organisations), some of the discussions are quite interesting and accessible.

The fault line between governments (and their civil servants and the consultants who work for them) and civil society is interesting to observe, as is the different approach taken in different parts of the world.

Some of the issues being discussed on these lists and at these conferences are hard problems (like zero rating vs net neutrality) and the regulatory decisions will have important consequences.

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Thanks for all the Phish, KMcC

Hi, Kieran,

I think you will discover, just as any and all corrupt and perverted self-serving systems administrations also always eventually realise, that with specific regard to .... Why this matters to you and me: Remember all this next time you see a stupid law affecting the internet ..... are stupid internetworking laws naturally ignored and defeated by the disenfranchised masses and smarter entities and cause feeble minded conflicts and breed fabulous revolutionary outcomes.

And it is most odd and quite alien to believe that in the virtual place that is cyber space, governments and their supporting agencies hold any sway and credibility in the running and policing of the internetworking of things. It and IT are the postmodern version of a Brave New World and Wild Wacky West, where rules and regulations are reminders of things of the past which have nurtured and presented failures in the guise of media hosted successes trumpeted as progress. To think anyone has any viable remote command and control on novel and creative and disruptive and destructive intellectual property ….. and which in their most basic of phorms and phishes is the free sharing of imaginative and even revolutionary ideas ……. is clearly delusional and a sure sign of a lack of necessary intelligence in such systems admins to equitably deal with that particular peculiar space place and the effects that result down on Earth.

But that is not to say that things will be bad, for whenever one knows what one is doing and what needs to be done, can things be very good for virtually everyone who wants it to be so. And those that don’t want it to be so, can be easily excluded and isolated and left in a place for the attention of others who be equipped to deal appropriately with such as proves itself to be bad and a problem not worth having.

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Ask not for whom the bell tolls

But ask how much the absent attendees got paid for not going, instead.

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