back to article APT devs are LOUSY coders, says Sophos

The most infamous advanced persistent threat groups write exploits that fail more often than they work, malware bod Gabor Szappanos says. The malware prober with SophosLabs Hungary office examined 15 exploit writing groups and rated six as having only basic skills. Szappanos found one popular exploit (CVE-2014-1761) used as a …

  1. P. Lee Silver badge
    Coat

    incompetant but easy to obtain?

    apt get apt

  2. MJI Silver badge

    When I saw APT I thought of this

    http://www.rapidotrains.com/apt1.html

    And I have chatteed to one of the main engineers behind the project.

    1. A Non e-mouse Silver badge
      Pint

      Re: When I saw APT I thought of this

      Which, the model or the real thing? Either, to be fair, deserves one of these ->

      1. MJI Silver badge

        Re: When I saw APT I thought of this

        Seen the real one at the NRM. Model at Warley exhibition

        As to engineers - both, at the same time, a slighty mad Canadian and a chap with Mr Tilt name badge

  3. Ant Evans

    Headline work needed

    LOSERS 'INCOMPETENT'

    GRAVITY VALID FOR 'FORESEEABLE FUTURE'

    ARITHMETIC 'INCONTROVERTIBLE'

    ISLINGTON MAN 'EVOLVED FROM APE'

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Headline work needed

      Islington man: no way did he evolve - he is still at the level of pond slime

      Anon: my brother lives in Islington

  4. Jon Massey

    Not about packaging formats

    Disappointed...

  5. squigbobble

    Neo?

    I assume that's meant to be the highest skill level in that table.

    1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge

      Re: Neo?

      Yeah, I suppose "Cameron" is not to the right of that.

  6. KroSha

    Pot, meet Kettle

    Having the competence of malware coders called in to question by the authors of some of the worst, buggiest, bloated imaginable commercial code available is delicious.

  7. nobody69

    Sophos is a joke. I wouldnt even pirate their software.

  8. DNTP Silver badge

    This is like saying muggers can't hit for crap because the vast majority of them wouldn't pass a classroom karate exam.

  9. Captain DaFt

    Obviously

    The incompetent are easier to find, and look more prevalent, decent ones slip through the net more often, and show fewer hits, and the really good ones?:

    "Red exploit groups failed, green succeeded." and the ones not shown are still undetected.

    1. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge

      Re: Obviously

      "Selection bias"

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