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Microsoft says Windows Insider program members shouldn't be upset that no more Windows 10 Preview builds are coming this year, because the build that's expected to arrive in late January will be awesome – literally. According to a blog post by Microsoft engineering manager Gabe Aul, Redmond devs are so excited about that …

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It will have a START MENU!

And lots of flashy stuff that nobody will ever use, but MS want to convince us we that we need.

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Re: It will have a START MENU!

Windows has had a start menu since 95. I think you mean it'll have a non full screen start menu so that even people with an IQ of 4 can tell it's a menu

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Re: It will have a START MENU!

>Windows has had a start menu since 95. I think you mean it'll have a non full screen start menu so that

>even people with an IQ of 4 can tell it's a menu

Those people with an IQ of 4 is who Windows 8 was designed for - big fisher price tiles that even a baby with clumsy thumbs could push. It certainly wasn't designed for professionals or even competant amateurs.

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Re: It will have a START MENU!

"Those people with an IQ of 4 is who Windows 8 was designed for - big fisher price tiles that even a baby with clumsy thumbs could push."

So if your IQ is higher than theirs how come you can't tell it's a start menu just because it's full screen?

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Re: It will have a START MENU!

Because it was not a list, which means that it could not have been a menu; look up the definition of menu.

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Re: It will have a START MENU!

Mine is a list, just that that list is displayed full screen with multiple columns. The old menu displayed columns too if you had too much crap in there. The old menu also used to generate a separate search window when you did a search, while the new one integrates search results from all available sources including the programs menu, but by any definition it's most definitely a menu.

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Yah yah yah, but is it going to be free, free with strings, very cheap or the usual MS expensive ?

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High school adjectives for business solutions

Do people honestly use AWESOME, in upper case I might add, as an adjective for an OS ?

I would honestly prefer something like, "Enterprise class", or "Business strengthened", "Proven stablility", yes, they are boring but they actually mean something.

AWESOME is a very vague word that has about as much appeal as a blunt kitchen knife in an operating theatre. It's a word associated with beach bums and surfers named Brice....

Bring back the IT adjectives, they're boring but appropriate.

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

Awesome comment... dude

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

I have to disagree.

I love that they're using informal terms to describe their operating systems. This is not the same corporate design team that designed Windows 8, just for the sole purpose of making money. This is a brand new team filled with young, talented and passionate designers that actually are enthusiastic about making a really great operating system. I'm very excited about Windows 10, and if things keep going the way they are, I believe the final version will not only be WAY PAST awesome, but it will be much more affordable unlike previous releases. I'd say 50 bucks or less is a reasonable price for Windows 10.

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

" I'd say 50 bucks or less is a reasonable price for Windows 10."

And some scuttlebutt is that win10 will begin a new subscription payment plan...

So is that more like $50 a year?

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

Where I come from, tags in a code repository are generally in ALL CAPS. It's just a throwback to the days when EVERYTHING was. Not sure why it's still so widely observed in this particular environment, but my best guess would be "no-one can be bothered to change it".

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@Lodmot347 - Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

Do you know something we don't ? Besides that your language is a little heavy on the marketing/pr side so I gave you a down vote.

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@revdjenk - Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

Small correction : "So is that more than $50 a year ?"

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

It sounds exactly like something our marketing department would come up with.

Expect the next build to be called amazeballs.

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

> will not only be WAY PAST awesome

Way past having some awe is being full awe.

> This is not the same corporate design team that designed Windows 8, just for the sole purpose of making money.

Windows 8 was designed to overcome the perception of Windows Phone. Consultants reported that WP was not selling because the UI was unfamiliar. Windows 8 was intended to make that UI the most familiar UI on the planet. Then users would _demand_ all their devices have that UI. So much for consultants.

> I'd say 50 bucks or less is a reasonable price for Windows 10.

Before Surface was released the usual clowns were predicting great _cheap_ tablets from Microsoft. The first gen devices only became cheap when MS wrote off nearly a billion dollars and put them in the bargain bin.

So much for the usual clowns' predictions.

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

RE: "Do people honestly use AWESOME..."

Sure they do. Open source was there first...

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome

And then there was the Awesome Bar in firefox. There are probably lots more examples

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions @revdjenk

Possibly part of Office 365 for Business?

Rumours vary, but seem to indicate that Windows 10 Core will be free, but you'll have to pay a subscription for additional features - think XBox video / music, Office 365 etc. on top and businesses will probably still have to licence Pro / Enterprise features, like domain membership, Bitlocker etc.

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

"> will not only be WAY PAST awesome

Way past having some awe is being full awe."

Ooh, I see what you did there!

As it is Friday, have a beer.

As to cheap, Windows 8 is currently free on sub 10" tablets and free in the Windows 8 with Bing version.

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

$50 for another version of the Horse-Drawn Aeroplane?

Don't make me laugh...

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Re: As it is Friday

Man, are you in for a disappointment...

GJC

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

"As it is Friday, have a beer."

Bleh! Wishing my week away!

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

It is the consumer market they wish to impress. Business is more often than not already locked in to a MS software infrastructure.

The word awesome, just like the words special, original, brilliant, great, unique and various other "shiny" words are what the average non critical media groomed consumer identify with.

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

> Horse-Drawn Aeroplane

That's definately a 2 or 3 beer analogy. Cheers

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Re: Wishing my week away!

Can we have a beer anyway?

GJC

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

"Do people honestly use AWESOME,"

Americans do far to often, but then they love hyperbole. I've no idea what word they'd use when something really was "awesome" in the actual sense of the word rather than just "quite good" or "I've drunk too many expressos and I'm talking rubbish" which is what it seems to mean over the other side of the pond. They'd probably just be standing doing a goldfish impression unable to think of a word that could trump it.

Actually thinking about it they'd probably just say "super awesome" or "awesome awesome" or some other juvenile sounding phrase.

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

"full of awe" you say? there is an auto-antonym which matches that: awful...

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

"I'm very excited about Windows 10"

Excited? Do you mean when an OS can stay up for a year or more without breaking or degrading? Where you can choose and configure the interface that suits your way of working best and there are no surprises. It just does it job quietly and efficiently?

I get excited when I see a trapeze artist wobbling in the wind at 200 feet without a safety net. But I'm not sure I want an operating system to give me that sort of thrill.

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Re: High school adjectives for business solutions

"So is that more like $50 a year?"

More like $50 a month.

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Ironic

that the Windows Insider Programme, required to download an official preview build, is returning "service unavailable".

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Re: Ironic

This is being fixed and we expect the revised message "service currently unawesome" to appear shortly.

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I'd just be happy with not user hostile

And the ability to turn off stupid animations

No dumb kindergarten crayon level "friendly" graphics

And NO FUCKING METRO TILES

I could live without changing the default Explorer directory - I assume .lnk is still possible

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Re: I'd just be happy with not user hostile

Having used Windows 8 since release, I wouldn't want to go back to a tile-less world now. On the move, with my tablet, they are great. On the desktop I rarely see them - just like the Start Menu in Windows 7, it is only accessed when I use an application that isn't pinned to my task bar - which covers about 99% of my daily routine.

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Well...

After a couple of days playing around with it (the Start Menu is a considerable improvement) I think 'adequate' or 'acceptable' would be AWESOME descriptions!

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Requirements:

Requirements:

1. Secure: yes

2. Stable: yes

3. Bug free: yes

4. Awesome: no

I'd pay for 1, 2 and 3. Not for 4 though.

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Re: Requirements:

"Sorry sir, we have run out of items 1, 2 and 3, which are no longer available from our excellent cuisine for today. May I interest you in a little 4 for a change?"

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Re: Requirements:

Well, I get all 4 for free.

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Bug free? Seriously?

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"I'd pay for 1, 2 and 3. Not for 4 though."

Is that what you tell the escort agency on the phone?

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I will tell you what I expect from Windows 10: nothing.

I am not saying I expect it to be bad - I am saying I have no expectations. That way lies disappointment (and swearing).

That aside, while I am happy that the Microsoft devs are passionate and think that what they are building is great, excellent, amazing, and, yes, awesome, I think that having really enthusiastic devs and designers is not necessarily the best things for software.

Why? Because the more the devs enjoy their dog food, the less likely they are to accept that other users might prefer the chicken and liver and others still might prefer the beef stew.

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revolutionary - forward looking - modern

And what we got was Windows 8.

Hearing Microsoft talking about Awesome gives me the creeps... Windows 98's awesome "active desktop" comes to mind.

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Re: revolutionary - forward looking - modern

Funny thing, though - the old Active Desktop was actually a reasonably good idea that had useful potential. Arguably the most innovative thing MS had ever done, in terms of UI & general-purpose utility of the desktop.

Implementation sucked, though, and coming right at the time that IE holes were being revealed at the rate of about one a second it was a security nightmare...

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Re: revolutionary - forward looking - modern

Yes, it could have been good but of course the most notable feature was the one where it changed your desktop into an black screen with an ugly warning.

The BEST thing about Active Desktop, however, was that you could turn it off completely. In fact, it started disabled. It was a feature that you could use if you wanted it and it made your life easier or you just liked it but if you didn't want it, nothing at all changed.

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Fenestrae X

Only thing I would find awesome is if Windows 10 ran as well as other operating systems I've used.

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Re: Fenestrae X

"Only thing I would find awesome is if Windows 10 ran as well as other operating systems I've used."

If it doesn't you could always change the name to Defenestration X.

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There comes a time ...

when one stops listening to their words, and starts looking for the results. Time will tell how "AWESOME" truly relates.

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Too late Microsoft, your Windows 8 was the final straw with your crud, so i decided to get my first ever Mac 3 years ago and i don't want to go back to your hell hole called Windows.

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Crew Slut

I hear that Apple will be introducing rounded corner tiles into their next OS. As Frank Zappa said ( hence the title), "You'll love it".

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Sort of serious question

Of these 1.5 million (450K active) users how many have tried their real web log ons to any depth?

With the whole keyloging thing I assume any tech worth his salt is not going to access anything important or that will have the same credentials after the OS is shut down, so has there been a massive increase in fake facebook, gmail and other accounts? I realise anyone with half an idea will say they can keylog anyway but who will admit to having shared their gmail,twitter,flickr etc. passwords with MS?

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