back to article Putin: Crack Tor for me and I'll make you a MILLIONAIRE

Russia's Interior Ministry has posted a tender seeking parties willing to “study the possibility of obtaining technical information about users (user equipment) TOR anonymous network". The tender appears to be open only to organisations rated to do secret work for the Russian government, but concluding that means the project …

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Black Helicopters

Will the NSA tender thru a proxy party ?

Think of cost savings of mutual code sharing for government bodies. After all, KGB and CIA spooks used to drink together in locations of mutual interest. Either way, freedom will be lost.

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Re: Will the NSA tender thru a proxy party ?

I would imagine the NSA already have this figured out, and they would have shared it if they would have wanted.

I'm slightly surprised the Russians still don't have it down to be honest.

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Re: Will the NSA tender thru a proxy party ?

I'm slightly surprised the Russians still don't have it down to be honest.

I'm sure the KGB, or whatever their post-cold-war equivalent is, do. But just because they can do it doesn't mean they're going to let the interior ministry know they can.

Which all means that it probably really is a hunt for pedos rather than political divergents.

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Big Brother

Re: Will the NSA tender thru a proxy party ?

I'm sure the KGB, or whatever their post-cold-war equivalent is

That's the FSB. Even if they haven't cracked Tor, I guess they have … other methods to get what they want.

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Re: Will the NSA tender thru a proxy party ?

Don't have to, Snowden is already in Russia. So if there really is a tender out in the ex-USSR then it means Snowden hasn't heard of any NSA crack and they probably haven't got one either. So yeah for TOR!!

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Re: Will the NSA tender thru a proxy party ?

Don't have to, Snowden is already in Russia. So if there really is a tender out in the ex-USSR then it means Snowden hasn't heard of any NSA crack and they probably haven't got one either.

The information Snowden had access to may have been damning to the NSA, but I've gotten the impression that it was a relatively small slice of their total operations.

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Re: Will the NSA tender thru a proxy party ?

The FSB is the internal security intelligence service, similar to MI5, the FBI's Counterintelligence function and Israel's Shin Bet.

The SVR and GRU handle foreign and military intelligence respectively, and there's an organization inside of the Federal Protective Service called the Spetssvyaz, or "Special Communications and Information Service of the Federal Protective Service of the Russian Federation" that handles signals intelligence like the NSA/CSS and GCHQ.

Edward Snowden managed to get Putin to lie about the Spetssvyaz on camera during that Q&A session awhile back as you may recall.

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"Whatever the aim of the project, there's 3,900,000 roubles - $US 111,000 or £65,500 - up for grabs."

Barely worth getting out of bed for. Becoming an international pariah for? Nyet!

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exatly my thought

That would not even pay the protection that I would need afterwards, when I have cause trouble to russian criminals.

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Someone on the red line Vlad ...

Langley to Putin: "Clear out of Ukraine and we will share our code for free"

Win -Win?

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Re: Someone on the red line Vlad ...

Putin to Langley: "Who do you think we are, native americans?"

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Hmm...

Clearly Tor honeypots dont work if theres a bounty out there.

I suspect if they do find a way the Ruski crims will start their own network...if they havent already got one that is.

Also there seems to be a lot of focus on Tor when plenty of alternatives exist such as I2P.

This suggests either the usage on the alternatives for crime is very low or they've been cracked already.

I also cant see how cracking one network would be of huge benefit to the spies, since anyone concerned about hiding themselves will most likely have thought of some additional security any way.

E.g. have your tor service hidden within a jurisdiction outside of their local authority (Iceland for example) or combine two anonymising services host your service on I2P and proxy from your tor facing service to I2P and visa versa. Only allowing one network to reach the other, no direct access from either. Of course as we know extra security doesnt protect you per se it only adds extra time until you're caught or you implement your next strategy.

I can think of multitudes of strategies to add extra hideyness. Its probably possible to keep moving for huge amounts of time.

Cracking Tor will only result in catching the smaller fish and dumbasses. People that would probably slip up anyway. I.e. people that insist on having a pseudonym that they accidentally use somewhere outside Tor or people that dont configure their security well enough.

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Re: Hmm...

The big selling point for Tor is anonymity. Once they've cracked that, Russian police have a person they can arrest and apply other techniques like rubber-hose decryption.

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Re: Hmm...

Have an up vote purely for the term "rubber-hose decryption"

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Millionaire?

If you start using the term millionaire referring to other currencies then I can declare myself as a multimillionaire in JPY. Bow before my riches.

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Re: Millionaire?

I was a Zimbabwean trillionaire until they decided to scrape the currency. The fall from grace was hard mine is the shabby looking coat with all the patch work on it.

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Re: Millionaire?

was the currency solid gold? if so it really would be worth scraping it

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Re: Millionaire?

The ZimBobwe dollar solid gold? LMAO! You needed more paper sheets in the dollar form than you got on the bog-roll you were buying. Cheaper by a factor of three to wipe your arse with a Mugabe portrait than tissue and while not nearly as clean afterwards much more satisfying!

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In Soviet Russia

Tor crack YOU.

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Anonymous Coward

Yup

Russian pornography is my real target too.

Fnar. BRB.

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Anonymous Coward

The only reason that the Russian government is interested in TOR is that they want to use this information to stamp out dissent.

they have one of the most repressive governments in the world and it really bothers them that they can't monitor what their citizens are doing

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They will not catch me

I'm immune to this threat. I'm too stupid to use Tor so I encrypt everything with ROT-13. Twice for greater secrecy.

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Holmes

Saving money is important.

So when you deliver this crack, the russians use it to track you down and save 3,899,900 rubles and bury you in an unmarked grave. So you can't give anyone else the code. NOW that's secruity!!

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Why make trillions when you can make... Billions?

I am surprised that nobody has made a reference to Dr Evil yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vohNUTTx3A

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You have got to be kidding!

That will be the day I would hand over the keys for TOR to a corrupt mafia moron and his ass kissing low brow buddies.

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Dear Vlad

Thank you for this valuable intelligence snippet, in which you reveal your current inability to identify Tor users. It has been noted. I guess there's an outside chance you're pulling a maneouvre, paying people to give the illusion that you can't identify Tor users, but I never credited you with an overabundance of brains or subtlety, so I doubt it.

Anyone fancy a Kickstarter to fund Tor development, with a target of twice his bounty? "Whatever he's paying you I'll double it."

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Big Brother

Re: Dear Vlad

Thank you for this valuable intelligence snippet, in which you reveal your current inability to identify Tor users.

Or is that simply what Russia wants Tor users to think?

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