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Google Maps' UK edition now incorporates data on every train, bus, tram and ferry across England, Scotland and Wales. The Chocolate Factory is using Traveline's data to power its service, so now has access to the schedules of 1,500 operators, 1,700 routes and 330,000 bus stops, train stations and other transport hubs. …


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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    and no doubt...

    ... will add the list of the passengers they can detect as well.

  2. Alan Denman

    Along the Siri way....

    .. Apple has decided that exercise is best. Enjoy the walk.

  3. Jason McLaughlin

    An unusual opening move, I know, but I'm going to play Cockfosters.

    1. Jacksonville


      That's easy... Peckham Rye

      1. Ossi

        Re: Cockfosters?

        Clever move. I go for Tooting Broadway.

        1. Jason McLaughlin

          Re: Cockfosters?

          Hmm, you've obviously been practising. But your blocking tactics are just a little too obvious. Forced onto the DLR - Royal Albert.

        2. Robin

          Re: Cockfosters?

          Manchester Picadilly?

          1. big_Jim

            Re: Cockfosters?

            If we're playing Tudor Court Rules then it should be St Johns Wood

            1. Ossi

              Re: Cockfosters?

              Surely only if the run of play is with the codpiece holder?

              1. Jacksonville

                Re: Cockfosters?

                I think you may be confusing this with the Argyle Street Parabola, in which case you must be the poke holder, not the codpiece, but only when using Trumpington's variation, obviously

          2. plrndl

            Re: Cockfosters?

            Mornington Crescent.

          3. Richard Gadsden

            Re: Cockfosters?

            I'm going to follow on from Robin's move, as I think I do accept the various arguments put out. So:

            Besses o' th' Barn. I appreciate that this bends the Northern rules a little, and may force someone into Nydd, but if you're smart, there is a way out...

      2. Stanislaw

        Re: Cockfosters?

        Sorry I missed the start. Engineering work on the Central Line.

        We'll probably need a ruling on this, but I think Ossi needs to re-evaluate his move as I believe he may be straddling, which would render all subsequent moves void.

        Unless you're all in Nidd, of course.

    2. Jason McLaughlin

      I think you'll find my early play of the DLR rendered Tudor Court Rules obsolete (as they should be - but I'd rather not get into the politics of what should be an enjoyable game). As it looks like we're playing the National Variant, I think Robin's move stands. Although, as I'm sure you're aware, if we're not back in London in 6 turns, the whole game might be forfeit. And that's not good for any of us.

      Let's play nice people.

      1. Ossi

        Come to think of it, that's right - because of the plague pits. But I think the use of the cross lateral is suspect even in the National variant.

        1. phear46


          What the f guys? I have no idea what your on about....

          1. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

            Re: wtf....


            I believe what you meant to say was, I'm sorry, I haven't a clue what you're on about...

          2. Scott Broukell

            Re: wtf....

            @Phear46 - The improvisational game 'Mornington Crescent' was an integral part of a brilliant Radio 4 show callled 'I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue', originally hosted, superbly, by Humphrey Lyttelton. London Tube stations and other landmarks are the key features of the game, the goal of which is to 'arrive' at Mornington Crescent tube station via subtle and esoteric means. It was, is, and continues (I think), to be hilarious in every respect.

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        2. meh1010

          Does that invalidate plrndl's move then? Because if so can I use the Mortimer Variations on Nidd and call York?

  4. kdh0009

    "across Britain, Scotland and Wales" - a prediction for the future?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I was born in a country called "England". It's been disappeared since then.

      1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

        And in any case "England, Scotland and Wales" isn't "All UK", it's "All GB". To be All UK it would have to include N. Ireland transport as well

        1. Kristian Walsh Silver badge

          Britain* (exclusions apply)

          It's simple:

          "Britain" = Area covered by a wave of the hand over Map of Europe somewhere to the North-West of Belgium to distract the viewer while waver silently mouths the word "England".

          "England" = 1. A small village in Shropshire where they still play cricket on a village green every Sunday. 2. Any number of sports teams drawn largely from places that don't actually exist, they being north of London, yet not in Scotland.

          "London" = Ornate tax-haven for Russian oligarchs. When lit professionally, it looks a bit like Cardiff.

          "Wales" = Rugged outcrop west of London. Locals friendly despite epidemic of nasal catarrh.

          "Scotland" = Oilfield and country-sports resort off the northern coast of London. Invented everything important. Except whisky. They print their own special money to make sure none of it ever leaves the country.

          "Northern Ireland" = Not actually part of Britain, except when it is. Populated by two factions, both of whom want to live in different countries, but who are afraid to leave in case the other changes its mind and stays. Sometimes mistakenly called "Ireland", which more correctly refers to "Ireland, the Republic of": a rustic revenue transit-point for American corporations, also vehemently not part of Britain, despite all cultural, sporting, commercial, legal and societal signs to the contrary.

          Use of adjectives:

          "British" = Scottish or Welsh or Northern Irish person who has just succeeded at something on the world stage; or English person who has spectacularly failed to do same.

          "English" = English person who has just succeeded at something on the world stage.

          "Scottish", "Welsh" = Scottish or Welsh person who has spectacularly failed and/or disgraced themselves on the world stage.

          "Irish" = Warning: unless you've got documentary proof that you are talking about a citizen of the 26 counties of the Republic of Ireland, this word is best avoided, unless you actually intend to start a heated and pointless argument that will rage for days.

          Note, none of these should be confused with the special noun, "Briton". This is reserved solely to describe a holder of a passport issued by the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland who has just come to a very sticky end very far from home.

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          2. AndrueC Silver badge
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            Re: Britain* (exclusions apply)

            +1 for mentioning 'Briton' :)

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            2. Caaaptaaaain kick arse

              Re: Britain* (exclusions apply)

              Sounds like a new crypto currency -- 'Britcoin'

        2. Dinky Carter

          it's "All GB".

          ... and it's really true that not a lot of people know that.

          During lulls in pub conversations, I've won several pints in bets with British mates by challenging them to correctly name the country printed on the front of their passports. Without exception, all of my non-techie mates fail miserably and have to stump up a pint. More surprisingly, a fair number of the nerds also fail.

          As you can tell, I scintillate during boozing seshes.

        3. Scroticus Canis Silver badge

          @Phil O'Sophical - Correct

          The name is "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", though I don't remember Northern Ireland being a separate kingdom in the past, history was never my strong point.

          @ Kirsten Walsh - oh splendid sir, truly splendid.

          1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

            Re: @Phil O'Sophical - Correct

            "The name is "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", though I don't remember Northern Ireland being a separate kingdom in the past,"

            That's because you are reading it as two Kingdoms, Great Britain and Northern Island, United together.

            It's actually The United Kingdom of Great Britain + a bit offshore called Northern Island.

            If you turn on the radio or TV, or maybe a computer which has an internet connection you might come across the odd article or news item related to Ye Olde Kingdom of Scotlande and how it might want to not be United any more with Ye Olde Kingdom of Englande. That might help explain the "United Kingdom" bit of the name.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        England is a distant memory....

        Great Britain is soon to fall

        Once we had an Empire,

        but parliament lost it all

  5. AndrueC Silver badge
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    ..and it immediately shows up a flaw in our local bus services. Ask it to get me from Brackley to Brindleyplace in Birmingham for 8am and it says I have to leave at 20:10 the day before. The earliest it can get me here via public transport on the same day is 0930. This is because there's no early morning or late night bus service to Banbury after the council withdrew subsidies last year. Guess I'll have to stick to driving to the station :-/

    Other than that I like the (perhaps pointless) way that it shows you the actual route you'll be taking (it even shows the train route, lol) but it'd be really nice if it gave the cost. Proper links to book tickets for the journeys might be good as well.

    So thumbs up to Google. Thumbs down to my local bus services.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      If they started running a direct Brackley to Banbury bus I might actually use it, but given it travels via every village on the way and takes 50mins (rather than 15 by car) there is no point. Ironic that HS2 (may) pass the outskirts of Brackley but will be completely useless to all of us commuting to London or Birmingham.

      1. AndrueC Silver badge
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        What we really need is the A422 dualling between Brackley and Banbury. That would finally bypass Farthinghoe (aka. 'Pothole Central') and would probably alleviate some of the traffic problems on J10 of the M40. And if it helps garner support I'd suggest dualling it in the other direction to Milton Keynes as well.

  6. ratfox Silver badge


    In a city with a complex public transportation system, that's a real time saver.

    1. JDX Gold badge

      Re: Nice

      Even without... trying to figure out which the hell bus you should take even in a small town can be confusing.

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    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      "Its failing is trusting a 11's predicted arrival time."

      I just tested it on Newcastle to South Shields. Apparently my best bet is to take the "subway". I'm not sure that the Tyneside Metro will take so long to get there that I need to buy a sandwich to sustain me on the journey.

      I wonder if that's Google calling the Metro a "subway" or the source data? Either way, it's an error. In the UK, a subway is a pedestrian passage under a road or a particular sandwich retailer on the high street. It definitely ain’t a light railway, 99% of which is above ground.

      1. Mr Flibble

        Google fail

        They do indeed appear to be calling it a tunnel for pedestrians; I don't see them calling it the source data… Anyway – have you reported that error to them? (I have, complete with dictionary references.)

  8. Anonymous Coward


    ..but it will it tell us the trains are still on running time despite not having them for 3 days the last heavy snowfall?

    Certainly the rail companies were unable to do this. Simply due to the fact they were reaching that last point of the auto update system but getting no further and going back, so to the crappy automated system, they looked like they were all ok, in fact many were running 20 minutes ahead.

    1. Anonymous Coward

      Real Time Trains

      Google might not but try - does a pretty good job of taking National Rail feeds, assembling them into something meaningful and (IME) accurate predictions for arrivals - and it does normally pick up on cancellations, even part way through a journey.

      Useful extra is that it also confirms platforms for large stations long before the departure board will (well, at Euston it works).

      [mobile apps are available for iPhone and Android]

      No connection to the company other than a satisfied user.

    2. AndrueC Silver badge

      Re: Yes....

      ..but it will it tell us the trains are still on running time despite not having them for 3 days the last heavy snowfall?

      Or just a permanent note on Crosscountry trains arriving at New St from the north '(all times are approximate)'. I'm glad I switched to Chiltern to go back. It might be a bit late sometimes getting in but since it sits there for 10 minutes before 'turning round' it doesn't matter to me. It almost always leaves on time :)

  9. Anonymous Coward

    And whilst ranting.....

    ...will it magically reduce the 3 -4 hours round trip it takes via public transport down to the 1 hour by car (which would be better if the $%^&*() buses didn't stop every 10m and reduce the price by about 75%?

    Yet they still bloody bang on about how great public transport it. Try living NOT in a city.

    1. HollyHopDrive

      Re: And whilst ranting.....

      Yep. I just checked my option for going to work via public transport. 37 miles to coventry. By car its about an hour. By public transport (3 buses and 2 trains plus some walking) an amazing 3 and a bit hours! In fact it takes just 3 minutes longer to cycle according to Google. I also bet that public transport jaunt would cost significantly more than the 6 Quid's worth of diesel each way I spend now.

      1. AndrueC Silver badge
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        Re: And whilst ranting.....

        I also bet that public transport jaunt would cost significantly more than the 6 Quid's worth of diesel each way I spend now.

        That at least doesn't seem to apply for me. It's slightly cheaper to drive from home to Birmingham but only if you look at the obvious costs (petrol and parking). Factor in wear and tear and the train is cheaper even though I'm paying to park at the station. Plus considerably less hassle especially the return journey and only 15 minutes longer(*) and I can read for an hour. Mind you if I couldn't walk from the station to my office it'd be another matter.

        (*)And in the evening train is probably quicker. I've not yet tried driving back from B'ham but I doubt it's going to be smooth sailing. When co-workers tell you it's best to head north to the M6 you know it's not going to be good :(

    2. Rich 11 Silver badge

      Re: And whilst ranting.....

      > which would be better if the $%^&*() buses didn't stop every 10m

      Yeah, it's a real bugger when public transport transports people other than yourself.

      1. MrXavia

        Re: And whilst ranting.....

        I think his point is 10 meters is too damned short a distance! if you can't walk that, get a taxi!

        Not that I've been on a bus in years, there are no busses any more round my way...

        1. Lamont Cranston

          Re: if you can't walk that, get a taxi!

          If you can walk on to a earlier/later stop, you might as well. The bus will also be providing a service* to those who can't do that.

          *well, it should be; no doubt it's been deemed to be unprofitable, and been cancelled.

  10. Fuzz

    Here transit

    Pretty sure the Nokia Here transit on my windows phone does this as well and has done for at least a year. Still it's nice to see other platforms can catch up.


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