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Taking the PlayStation 4 out of its box, my first thought was that it’s monolithic: the kind of object that 2001: A Space Odyssey’s hairy, belly scratching apemen would have danced around in worship. Sony PS4 Black monolith: Sony’s PlayStation 4 The console’s perpetual forward slant lends it an overtone of kinetic energy …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Advising SSHDD rather than SSD - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGjSJwlHK6M

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      IN YOUR FACE MICRO$OFT

  2. MrWibble

    "Then there’s the PS4’s much-hyped ability to let gamers play PS One, PS2 and PS3 games remotely with cloud-gaming service Gaikai.... All those grumbles about backward compatibility? Gone"

    Ah, yes, I assume it'll be making me *rent* the same game that I've already purchased...

    1. Slacker@work

      I for one...

      wont be upgrading until Gaikai is available along with the media capabilities - the PS3 lives on!!

    2. JDX Gold badge

      re:I assume it'll be making me *rent* the same game that I've already purchased...

      It'll also let ME rent games I never purchased. And you don't need to keep those old games to have a lciense either.

      Anyway this is a stupid argument. You wouldn't claim it's unfair you have to buy a separate XBox/PC version to play the same game on multiple platforms.

      If you already OWN the games, just use your old console and stop complaining about something the rest of use will find useful.

    3. auburnman

      "Ah, yes, I assume it'll be making me *rent* the same game that I've already purchased..."

      I think we did this to ourselves when we showed how hungrily we would eat up PS1 classics on the store and repurchase the HD remasters of the PS2 greats.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        But.. but... all PS3s play PS1 disc games.

        (Not a lot of people seem to know that)

    4. RyokuMas
      FAIL

      Meh, already playing all my old PS One games on my PC with emulator, thanks...

      1. pewpie
        Terminator

        You are a traitor to gaming humanity and should be destroyed on sight. How dare you use technology for yourself..

        The shamelessness of some people... sheesh.

  3. Annihilator
    Happy

    Audiophile

    "The console’s perpetual forward slant lends it an overtone of kinetic energy like a work of vorticist art."

    Let me guess, you also do hi-fi reviews?

    1. Frankee Llonnygog

      Re: Audiophile

      I think the Vorticists must have been gamers - hence the motto, "Blast First".

  4. Pahhh

    I will get one because....

    I want a PS4 because its new and shiny. I'm a Sony fan-boy. It is a bit difficult to justify though.

    As my 6 year old 50" plasma HDTV has no media capabilities my PS3 has been an excellent media center, initially also used as a bluray player and of course a game console. Its been quite frankly indispensable.

    But if I purchase a PS4 I can expect the wife to say "so what does it do different?". I need to come up with some justification other than its new. So far the only reason i can think of is the new version of Assassins Creed which my son likes (but hold no interest to me).

    Ideas?

    1. TheProf
      Devil

      Re: I will get one because....

      Because you're worth it!

    2. ColonelClaw

      Re: I will get one because....

      Easy. The PS4 is one better.

      1. jai

        Re: I will get one because....

        because next year you'll get to play WatchDogs and StarWars Battlefront and the new FF and the new MGS, etc etc

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          @jai

          Agreed about Watch_Dogs, that game looks very interesting (pre-ordered it myself). But the thing is: you can also play that on your PS3 or Xbox360 :-)

          1. jai

            Re: @jai

            good point. but Uncharted 4 will be on PS4, so that swings the vote for me.

            (well, i'm a lifelong sony fanboy, so that also swung the vote somewhat too if i'm honest - but if i wasn't....)

    3. Benchops

      Re: I will get one because....

      Just buy one, then send it back unopened with a post-it saying "Wife says no" on, and hope for the best...

    4. MJI Silver badge

      Re: I will get one because....

      Easy Naughty Dog have announced an Uncharted for it.

      You can also play a decent FPS not full of shouty sweary kids.

      You can wait excitedly for the new Infamous.

      Order 1886 looks like it could be really good

    5. Gene Cash Silver badge

      Glad I'm not married!

      I just plunked down $300 for a 3D mouse to play Kerbal Space Program, and the game isn't even going to support it until the next release. I can imagine I'd hear the noise about that, but it's my one xmas gift for myself, dammit! No justification necessary!

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Trollface

        Re: Glad I'm not married!

        I think I can see why you're not married.... :-)

    6. DiViDeD

      Re: I will get one because....

      Chaps, your arguments are all good if you want to persuade the OP to get one. The problem is to find something his WIFE will find compelling. I don't think 'I'll be able to spend hours and hours on it playing immersive FPS's while you are reduced to watching Trinny & Susanna's Big Brother Bake Off on the 18 incher in the bedroom' quite cuts it with today's modern liberated woman somehow.

      Ah. 18 inches in the bedroom. I see what I did there.

      1. Simon Westerby 1

        Re: I will get one because....

        You sad it yourself... "because its new and shiny"

        Women love that kind of crap... well they tend to buy things themselves based on that....

        Good look if you try that angle tho... and may the force be with you ;)

    7. Sean Timarco Baggaley

      Re: I will get one because....

      'But if I purchase a PS4 I can expect the wife to say "so what does it do different?"'

      May I suggest ask your wife why she is fine with spending hundreds – if not thousands – of quid on shiny lumps of rock artfully nailed into equally shiny bits of metal, or ooh-ing and aah-ing over a pretty arrangement of vegetable genitalia... yet she believes YOU are the shallow one for wanting to spend a few hundred quid on a new home entertainment* centre that actually does something besides merely looking shiny.

      * a concept that also includes games. There's no need to make a distinction.

    8. naw

      Re: I will get one because....

      "But if I purchase a PS4 I can expect the wife to say "so what does it do different?". I need to come up with some justification other than its new. "

      Well you could always use the argument that because the product has been launched prematurely, you will be spending much less time using it and more time with her ;-)

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I will get one because....

        Perhaps she's too used to your toys being launched prematurely already

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    "There's more to gaming than graphics"

    Something i have heard many times from console owners when arguing their merits over PC gaming. The moment a new console is released however, the first points are always:

    "oooh look at how good the graphics are"

    1. Piro Silver badge

      There's a simple name for that phenomenon.

      Peasant logic.

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Ho hum

    I predict a lackluster Christmas for Sony. The PS4 would be a good console for someone who has never had one before, but lets face it, the PS3 is very good, as is the Xbox, and I can't see Mr and Mrs Cash-strapped Family forking out a ton of money for it. One to watch in the sales I think.

    Amusingly, if Apple had produced the PS4 they would have probably delivered the same amount of function but in a significantly better looking package, and we'd all be queuing up to buy it. that big black box is fricking uuuugggglllyyyy.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Ho hum

      The design does sort of scream 1980s supercomputer. I could imagine seeing a Cray sticker on there somewhere.

      1. Zingbo
        Happy

        Re: The design does sort of scream 1980s supercomputer

        I think your comment makes me want one more than I did before! I still don't seem to be particularly desperate for one, though.

    2. You have not yet created a handle
      Gimp

      Re: Ho hum

      I'm sure it's a market the Apple are itching to get into - and one day I'm sure they will.. they will revolutionise the gaming market with bling.

      1. youknowyouloveit

        Re: Ho hum

        I read that as "revolutionise the gaming market with bing".

        Noooooooooooooooo!

      2. Martipar

        Re: Ho hum

        Forgotten about the Pippin already? For shame!

      3. AceRimmer
        Joke

        Re: Ho hum

        "they will revolutionise the gaming market with bling."

        You mean INVENT gaming and the gaming market

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Ho hum

      "if Apple had produced the PS4 they would have .....significantly better looking package, and we'd all be queuing up to buy it."

      No we fucking wouldn't.

      1. Benchops

        Re: Ho hum

        False implies false is true

    4. Rimpel

      Re: Ho hum

      to paraphrase^H parody AC 27th @ 12:06

      I predict a lackluster [sic] christmas for microsoft. The XB1 would be a good console for someone who has lived in the middle ages, but lets face it the next gen is a bit better, and i cant see anyone who has money issues buying either.

      Amusingly if apple had produced a gaming console it would cost 2k. and some twats might buy it [sic]

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Sony have quite rightly focussed on ensuring the game part of the games console is correct.

    Anything else is a bonus, but the bonus features should not be prioritised over the gaming aspects.

  8. Gareth Perch

    I'll get one when they release Wipeout for it...

    ...if they ever do, now that Sony has closed Studio Liverpool.

    And an XBox One, when they release Halo for it. So I'll probably just end up with an XBox One this generation.

    I don't really play any other games on my PS3 or XBox 360 (or PC - but I'm looking forward to Elite: Dangerous - I expect I'll treat my PC to a new graphics card for that)

    1. youknowyouloveit

      Re: I'll get one when they release Wipeout for it...

      I'm with you there, it's a travesty they closed Studio Liverpool. This will be my first playstation without a Wipeout on it.

      Even though I've preordered a PS4, I'll be keeping the PS3 connected simply because of Wipeout HD.

      1. Eradicate all BB entrants

        Re: I'll get one when they release Wipeout for it...

        What is this Studio Liverpool crap? It was Psygnosis and always will be. A massive shame that it was closed, and they should have never been sold to Sony, an utter waste of great talent.

        1. Rimpel

          Re: I'll get one when they release Wipeout for it...

          Psygnosis really? Can I vote for a remake of blood money in HD?

  9. Amorous Cowherder
    Thumb Up

    I'm curious to see what it offers but I usually skip every other generation console, I owned an original Playstation but didn't bother shifting until the XBOX360 made it worthwhile. You spend shed-loads on the titles so it needs something truly stellar to make me invest in all the latest incarnations of those titles.

    Good luck to anyone looking to upgrade though, the more people invest at the start, the more support goes behind a console, the more companies start coding releases for it thus bringing down the prices of consoles and titles for when the rest of us catch up.

    1. NightFox

      I can understand skipping every other generation for something like iPhone annual updates, but do you really mean you're going to wait about 15 years between upgrades rather than just a mere 7 or 8 years?

      1. Lamont Cranston

        I still have a PS2 and a Wii.

        Oh, and better* things to do with my time.

        *<small>well, other</small>

  10. JeeBee

    At least it's getting most of the TV catchup services (well, no 4od yet, and nobody cares about itv player) and streaming video services (Netflix, Lovefilm) on its release date in the UK.

    But the important thing for a games console is that they've got a decent controller and the console's hardware can do the games at 1080p. Sure, it needs more good games right now, but it's the same with every new console launch.

  11. Fogcat

    First I'll declare that I currently own an Original Wii, an XBox 360, a PSP and a PS3.

    The Wii hasn't been turned on for months and was mostly used for Zelda games.

    The Xbox360 also hasn't been turned on recently and that's mainly used for platform exclusives.

    I can't remember the last time the PSP was turned on, that's really been superseded by smartphones and tablets.

    The PS3 (original fat model with hardware PS2 compatibility) is my main gaming machine (primarily because I "know" more people on PSN than XBox live) and is currently getting used for GTAV. It also gets used as the BluRay player so since I've had a 3-D TV for about 9 months I was rather startled the hear the PS4 doesn't support 3D BluRays. I never really used the PS3 for media as Sony never provided .MKV support.

    Currently neither the XBox One or the PS4 have me thinking "I want one". If the PS4 was backwards compatible I *probably* would have gone for it after Christmas, just to have the new shiny. But with a backlog of games and several new ones due that I fancy playing I'm happy with the PS3. And I don't want to run a PS3 and 4 - there are enough wires and plugboards round the back of the tell as it is.

    So.... until the next Uncharted gets released as a PS4 exclusive I'll probably be sitting on my hands; I can't see the sales being massive.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The problem is that the current gen is still current

    When The Xbox360 and PS3 were released the GameCube and PS2 had stalled, good games were still coming out of course but they were almost indistinguishable from what was being released the year before and the year before that with God of War being the only "There's still some life in her yet" game.

    Outside of graphical pretties on the PS4 and XboxOne current gen owners are still enjoying new releases of Grand Theft Auto, Assassain's Creed and Gran Turismo is only around the corner. Not only is there little reason in owning the next gen consoles but we still have reasons to keep playing on the current gen.

    Both Microsoft and Sony shot their loads too early and I think customers would have waited an additional 8 months for the consoles to be released without the bugs and rough edges and games that didn't feel rushed.

    1. Ian 55

      Re: The problem is that the current gen is still current

      Both have been happy for people to pay to be beta testers before.

      Never be the first kid on your block to get some new shiny. You'll pay more and get less.

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