Isn't this this the basic premise of Heroes? Making this yet another reboot
Seminal seventies science fiction show The Tomorrow People is jaunting back to television. The premise of The Tomorrow People was simple: living among us are young people who have already achieved the next stage of evolution, acquiring abilities like telepathy and teleportation (referred to as "jaunting" along the way. Less- …
Isn't this this the basic premise of Heroes? Making this yet another reboot
Well, it obviously shares a title and basic plot with a seventies series so I don't think anyone's trying to sneak some sort of reboot past us on the quiet.
As far as it being a reboot of Heroes goes...not really. In Heroes the characters generally had one signature power (c.f. X-Men, and a lot of other superheroic things), in Tomorrow People - or the classic one, at least - it's very much a standard power set all of them get.
Both programs have the "people with special powers existing in secret" angle, but as a basic plot idea that one stretches back to ancient mythology and the "scion of Gods raised as a mortal" thing.
So...hardly original, but no more a knock-off of Heroes than Heroes was a knock-off of the original TP.
"Isn't this this the basic premise of Heroes? Making this yet another reboot"
The Tomorrow People dates from the 70's, make Heroes the re-boot.
Although I'd be surprised if Heroes creator had even heard of it.
Yes it's an anorak.
That's what I meant, that heroes was a reboot of the original TP, making this reboot another reboot. But yeah there are some differences between heroes and TP.
I have never watched the original one, but I did get to see a couple of episodes from the 90's revival. More like X-Men, maybe, except that all of 'em have a base set of powers vs. having a special one.
Actually, what the description reminded me most of was A. E. van Vogt's novel 'Slan' (1946, I am surprised to discover). Still quite a read :)
Tyso had a different power, most had nothing but telepathy without their "jaunt belt"
The Jaunt Belt - did anyone else spend ages with their thumbs tucked in their waistband trying desperately to teleport? Please tell me it wasn't just me ...
It's the basic premise of cryptojudaism. The Spanish Inquisition should sue! (No one would expect that.)
See also: Medieval witch-hunting; Early Modern England's panic over secret Papists (particularly Jesuits, who were often imagined by the less-educated to have special powers); legal and social battles over miscegenation and blood quantum in the US and elsewhere; the plot of many SF stories and novels, including famous ones like Odd John and Children of the Atom; and so on.
So to say that Heroes was a reboot of the original Tomorrow People, or the new one a reboot of Heroes, is rather like suggesting that all stories about spouses with secrets are reboots of "Cupid and Psyche". It's a widely-used archetype that goes back as far as the written record, and no doubt further; it's basic human anxiety about being able to police the social group and detect outsiders posing as insiders.
Is it my imagination or are series like this largely shot in darkness or semi-darkness? Actually don't bother to answer because I know they are ............
It's cheaper if you can save on the lighting bill. If it's shot in Europe then the EU has probably prohibited them from using anything more thirsty than a 40W bulb.
It's actually called "day for night" in the trade.
Totally ugly for folks who know how to use a camera and lighting.
There was a François Truffaut film called "Day for Night". I was amused to see that the French for "day for night" appeared to be "la nuit américaine". Presumably this reflects its ugliness, along the lines of "French leave", "Dutch courage" etc.
Not from where I'm sitting.
No and this is why I never watch, let alone buy, Hollywood's latest bowel evacuations. It's the same old shit all the time.
I've found that putting canned laughter on the news seems to produce a similar effect to most modern US comedies.
They seem to have given up on original scripts so that may be next.
Or: We may actually live in a world where we are now seeing the truth behind the old saying that there are only a limited number of available understandable plots and only a limited number of understandable ways of re-painting them.
Try Utopia (if you haven't already). It nearly passed me by. I rate Black Mirror highly too (the last one was a bit so-so though, imho...).
Indeed, they probably predate ancient greece, from where many of today's entertainment themes can be traced.
"No and this is why I never watch, let alone buy, Hollywood's latest bowel evacuations. It's the same old shit all the time."
Hmm bowel evacuations. How come we haven't made a movie about bowels?
WE'RE GOING DOWN! EVACUATE THE BOWEL!
"Hmm bowel evacuations. How come we haven't made a movie about bowels?"
I get a scents it would stink.
I know what's in the pocket and you can keep it.
You have the escape from the garden of eden theme with The Island, Logans Run and many others.
You have all the Super Heroes as Orphans; Spiderman, Superman, Iron Man, Harry Potter.
You have the Woman In Red (or red hair) theme in Iron Man, Alice In Wonderland and loads of others.
The hero with a gammy leg, I used to be good at naming these until I took an arrow to the knee.
Look out for these themes in movies.
I don't remember watching TV in the 70s. What I do remember is living in squats, free festivals and the "Camberwell Carrot". Did a bit of "jaunting" as well. Who needs CGI?
Ah! Those were the days :)
You remember the Camberwell Carrot in the '70s! Impressive for a quote from a 1987 film.
>>You remember the Camberwell Carrot in the '70s! Impressive for a quote from a 1987 film.
It was set in 1969. Also if you want a cool smoke from a disposable pipe a hollowed out carrot* does the job.
I think that this is called "prior art". Anyway thanks for spotting the connection, pedant.
*Or a pear, parsnip etc.
Cool your boots man!
That! is _not_ a camberwell carrot!
Danny: The joint I am about to roll requires a craftsman that can utilise up to twelve skins. It is called a Camberwell Carrot.
Marwood: It's impossible to use twelve papers on one joint.
Danny: It is impossible to roll a Camberwell Carrot with anything less.
Withnail: Who says it's a Camberwell Carrot?
Danny: I do. I invented it in Camberwell and it looks like a carrot.
so nothing to do with veg at all.
Is there anyone here* that can read that transcript and *not* hear Danny's voice loud and clear? One of my favourite little nibbles of drug-related dialogue ever... :)
* That's seen the movie, mind...
I thought Tomorrow people developed their powers at puberty.
That explains a lot.
Most of us discovered girls instead.....
>Most of us discovered girls instead.....
and then discovered girls quite like sitting on sofas watching TV!
They were undiscovered quickly.
My first thoughts too....
The original was largely staffed by teens whereas the reboot looks more like the cast of 901210. Why does American TV do this? Can't their kids act? Completely spoils the show for me, like the movie series American Pie; full of twenty/thirtysomethings running around pretending to be teens.
In the early 1990s.
If you add in Big Finish audios that could make this the third-and-a-half outing of the idea.
The article thinks there has too : "The show came back for a short 90's revival.... "
is there a single original thought left in media? anywhere?...
mind you, looking forward to them trying to make ain't 'alf hot mum politically correct...
"mind you, looking forward to them trying to make ain't 'alf hot mum politically correct..."
Starting with Gove's use of English as a basis?
"Mater, it is rather warm, donchyouknow."
"Right (but not too far right) then, my beauties (that is, in my eyes everyone is beautiful in a human appreciation way, not in a homosexual way but that's sort of O.K. in its own way) let's be 'aving you! (once again this is intended to be a rousing cry and not a call for mass buggery although . . .) ."
'kit, put him in the curry
...and I'm quite looking forward to it.
OK so CW aims itself squarely at the "young adult" market but Arrow was actually quite good and if it matches up to that then I'll be happy.
brings the term 'harbles' and 'sucked' irresistibly to mind.
The first few eps had some good choreography, but that male lead, (either pronunciation is apposite) whoever he was - had me cheering for the bad guys by ep 03.
six-season seventies run
What, it ran from spring 1974 to autumn 1975? 'Course, I only watch the box set.
The Wombles 2030 - 15 years into the future, the famous common-cleaners suddenly find they have superpowers enabling them to clean up the syringes, broken bottles, diapers and tampons within the first minute of each episode, leaving them another 39 minutes to reverse global warming and avert a global catastrophe (or some such bollocks)
Captain Pugwash; Revisited - the crew of the Black Pig, including ships' mate Seaman Staines*, first officer Master Bates* and of course Roger the Cabin Boy*, battle supernatural monsters from the deep a la Pirates of the Caribbean, whilst rescuing various damsels in distress from fates worse than death.
* may not actually be their real names
I foresee many re'imaginings' of various series' over the next few years, given that we appear to have exhausted all possibilities for genuinely original writing (although Oblivion was actually quite good).
Can we also have the "Clangers". In this day and age of recycling they would be perfect.
Only if they dig up the robot from 'Hardware'. Comical bloody japes should then ensue.
Fsck the Wombles, I want to see the Borribles filmed.
The Stars My Destination did it first. :D
AKA "Tiger, Tiger" by Alfred Bester.
Well worth a read :-)
Also 'The Chrysalids' by John Wyndham. No jaunting but group thinking and being oppressed in a post-apocalyptic world.
Curiously for Sci-Fi that concerns itself with 'the next step in human/sentient entity evolution', The Stars My Destination is set in a world where everybody has developed the ability to teleport themselves, and society has adjusted to this. In the book, everybody can 'jaunt', within a certain distance (so spaceships are still required) and that they know where there are going. As a consequence, terrestrial vehicles are toys not necessities, and rich people use labyrinths to protect their privacy.
Alfred Bester's short stories also explore consequences of people possessing powers they don't understand, in a serious way... I can't help but think his experience as a sports writer (young people gifted with 'special' physical abilities, etc) influenced his subject matter.
"AKA "Tiger, Tiger" by Alfred Bester."
"The Demolished Man" seems interesting...
"Bester creates a harshly capitalistic, hierarchical and competitive social world that exists without deceit: a society where the right person with some skill (or money) and curiosity can access your memories, secrets, fears and past misdeeds more swiftly than even you."
Sounds like Gobook (Faceogle)
The basic theme dates back at least to Olaf Stapledon and "Odd John", and probably before... Shouldn'tt be suprised if there were something in Athenian theatre...
I enjoyed "The Demolished Man", but I must have been sleepy when I got to the last chapter - I felt like I missed something in the ending. I should give it another go.
Again, it is set in a near-future in which society has adjusted to many people having psychic powers.
Alfred Bester is one of the most unrecognised authors of scfi. I don't think I've ever read a bad story by him. I was first introduced to him through a Marks and Spencer collection of science fiction novels I got for my birthday, which has "The Demolished Man" (it also has "2001: A Space Oddysey", "The Day of the Triffids", and "I, Robot" - a real treat!). Bester wrote of a kind of world I hadn't come across before, and which I still carry close to the front of my head as we move into the world of the technological "peeper".
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