Don't see how. Entirely different markets.
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Chrome OS is not "tied to google services only" and the Surface to which this is a blow is probably the Surface with Windows RT, which cannot run all windows apps. But Windows RT has a browser, so can do all the stuff Chrome OS does (and much more). And unlike the Pixel it costs well under £1000.
Even the Surface Pro is likely to be cheaper than this by the looks of it. Given that the cheap Surface haters seem to have resorted to "it's too expensive" for the Pro version, despite the Chromebooks being competition, this does provide a marketing boost to the Surface Pro (as well as the help from raising awareness of touchscreen PCs in general).
(Personally I'm not likely to buy either of these devices, but still think it's good to see competition and choice.)
Of course it's an OS feature! Making sure there is a little image there to let people know they can get to a list of programs and save them from the terror of having to press Windows Key & Q at the same time is just as important as process scheduling & memory management ;)
"you can name something Win7 has as an OS feature and Win8 doesn't"
A single. well integrated user environment. Win8 has two poorly integrated environments.
Seriously, The GUI formerly known as Metro is a PITA in ideal conditions, and an undescriptable horror if your machine lacks a touchscreen.
@Mephistro - really? really?
I've been using it on a multi-monitor no touchscreen dev box since November. It annoyed me for a week but that's long in the past. It's fine. Taste not being arguable, etc, I can't make an absolute statement. Your milage obviously varies. I'm actually more familiar with it than with Win7 now.
However, "undescriptable horror" would be well into the realms of rampant exaggeration even if you disliked it and, less feasibly, if there was such a word as "undescriptable".
Do remember the time where men where real mean, women were real women, and techies were real techies?
Well, anyway, somewhen around that Microsoft released Vista to almost universal derision, almost as there never failed to be someone in the thread saying how great it was.
> No, it's a UI element.
For the majority of people with W8, its just as compulsory to use as the memory allocation manager and the DMA subsystem.
The W8 desktop OS is there to support the GUI console system. It still isn't designed to be multi-user or used independently of the GUI.
Unless there has been progress I've completely missed!
If you just use Ninite to install the essentials on your new Win 7 machine (Codec packs, several browsers, Foxit reader, WMP Classic, whatever you poison is) you'll notice that Classic Startmenu is there- that's right: adding a start menu to Win 8 literally takes one extra tick-box.
Similarly, Win 8 can be made to skip the 'Metro' interface entirely. I imagine that most people here do some faffing around with an OS after installing it, so why all the fuss about a start menu?
Eadon - yes i can just imagine him sitting on the "Tech Guys" benches, ignoring the customers ringing on the phone, surfing The Reg all day, praying 5 times a day that Linux will actually sell something on the desktop.
(Maybe I mixed up that last part with the cheap imports they employ...)
Thing about Windows 8 is it has added enough useful stuff :
Improved Multimonitor Support
Much improved task manager.
It feels like an upgrade to Windows 7
The only metro app I really use is the Mail client (Supports Exchange Activesync (back to the version google uses). The pdf viewer is reasonable as well. (Bit annoying I cannot use IE at all if I have Firefox as default browser (For such as Internet Banking I would use it).
You don't really have to use Metro at all 99% of the time.
Hit Windows Key and type (Same as Windows 7 to launch apps).
And the old school shortcuts (alt-tab / alt f4 / windows + r etc etc all still work (Along with WIndows + x which gives you most of the rest of what you might want (Admin stuff pretty much - control panel computer management command prompt etc). On Windows 7 you are better off using the shortcuts anyway.
Only one? Hardly. Handy how you relegated the Office wars to "Next we will have", Eadon. Instead of saying that they won. And Chromebook is Google competing on the desktop now is it? So it's going to compete with tablets, desktops and presumably laptops? That means it's a potential trouble for Linux too then.
Back soon, throwing all my stuff away so I can replace it with a Chromebook.
Browser wars - still running. IE still ahead, but performing a tactical rear-guard retreat
Search wars - Google vs MSN / Bing - Google Won. Actually, yes they did.
Console wars - no clear winners here yet.
Mobile phone wars - Apple opened a new western front, progress halted, and now it's a trench war. Ongoing.
Tablet wars - Apple invaded Poland, took over most of Europe, and now Google is gradually getting it's shit together for a counter attack.
Server Wars - Stuck in a trench war, with Linux holding territorial advantage.
Cloud Wars - The data security equivalent of global thermo-nuclear war. Nobody wins.
Desktop Wars - Microsoft controls all of western Europe airspace, but their new dual-role 109's are no match for the new Spitfires, Mosquitos and Mustangs from Linux, Google and Apple. Fronts are being eroded.
Office suit wars: Microsoft controls all of western Europe, but their Panzer tank is now too heavy, too slow, and the driver controls overly complicated. The easier to use and lighter, faster Shermans and Churchhills of LO/OO and - I can't believe I'm saying this - iworks are making advances.
You are correct - only one war was won - but it was Google's search war.
Browser wars - Firefox vs IE ?? No it wasn't, it was IE vs Netscape and IE won by such a margin they're still dealing with anti-trust suits. IE is still the dominant browser, by a decreasing margin.
Search wars - Google vs Bing ?? No, again, it was Google vs Alta Vista (if anything).
Console wars - Nintendo won, due to changing the game. MS and Sony are both runners up to them.
Mobile phone wars - Arguably Google are the current winners, but given the Win Pho "push" is less than 6 months old that's hardly a revelation.
Server wars - which one? Mainframe, midrange, file etc. Most companies have a mixture of OSs at server level, depending on what they want to do on it.
Cloud wars - are you kidding me? No-one has won, the "cloud" has been touted as a panacea for decades and every time it gets side-lined for very good reasons.
Desktop wars - No mention of OSX? You know, the second most widely used desktop operating system?
Office suite - no war, businesses will continue to use Office. We may see a move by home users to Oo, LO, Google docs, but that's a drop in the ocean compared to the corporate users.
If you want to come up with an argument, at least make it hold some water.
Console wars - Microsoft are currently winning here. Sony and Nintendo are both making a loss. Microsoft is making a healthy profit.
Mobile phone wars - Microsoft are 3rd but are fastest growing. Who knows....
Server wars - Microsoft are currently wining with over 50% market share and still growing.
Office Wars - Microsoft is currently the leader by miles
Desktop Wars - Microsoft is currently the leader by miles.
Cloud Wars - Amazon Winning, Azure and others still climbing.
A few small improvements to "Shome Correcktions":
Console wars - Very open at the moment. Valve/Steam are about to eat your lunch. Who needs stinking middle men anyway?
Mobile phone wars - After YEARS of trying, Microsoft is STILL nowhere... with Tizer, Ubuntu and Mozilla all about to land WinPhone's bargain basement "featurephone" microcosm might be about to be whipped out from under it. Bless.
Server wars - Microsoft is still trying and still impressively stagnant. Nginx is where the action is.
Office Wars - Microsoft has spent the last decade sitting on its fat arse tinkering with its lock-in while myriad interesting innovative projects have sprung up... Who knows...
Desktop Wars - Microsoft is clinging to a rapidly diminishing sector. Wonder how that'll work out for you.
Cloud Wars - Amazon & (FL)OSS won, Windows Azure just accidentally flushed itself. Again.
Did Bill Gates personally come to your house and butcher your dog in front of your kids?
Define winning. Here's one - if MS "won" all these "wars", the antitrust cases against them would have led the American govt and the European Union to break the company up. So would they have won or lost?
You are confusing competition with monopoly. Once upon a time, you could have said Microsoft had a Monopoly. They got their wrists well slapped for that. So in order to not be dismembered, they now compete in a slightly more open market (currently being turned into a oligopoly by patent wars (yey I found one for ya!). How they compete in that market is entirely up to them. Their strategy may or may not be to everyone's taste, but thats okay, because nor is Apples, Googles, Oracles, Ubuntus...
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