Could Mars have been hosting life at one time?...
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All the boffinry world is alive with speculation as to just what the as yet unnannounced "one for the history books" discovered by NASA's Mars rover Curiosity might be. But a recently-published study may offer a clue. In the investigation, researchers from NASA's Johnson Space Center, the Carnegie Institution and the Lunar and …
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But where's the eezo?
or the asari dancers?
...we conclude that, yes, this is definitely Mars!
I guarantee you'll be a lot closer to correct than a lot of the guesses I've already seen will be.
My guess: Something about the chemical distribution which suggests that there could be something more going on than just dirt sitting around at equilibrium, but which needs a lot more investigation with additional instruments on a subsequent mission before anyone starts throwing the L word around. There is NO way a collection of spectrometers is going to offer definitive proof of ongoing or former life.
Did Mars look like Earth?
Will Earth look like Mars?
The Mayan Calendar 2012 - 6014
... a flattened Panda Pop bottle!
"... a flattened Panda Pop bottle!"
Now there's one for the Reg SPB. JODi P, or Junk On DIstant Planets.
The objective being the first gratuitous discarding of human refuse on a new world. Apollo doesn't count, because they had a reason to go there. In this programme, the SPB need to achieve escape velocity with a payload of one piece of regular earth litter plus the kit to track the progress of the litter to its destination.
I'm sure it would be difficult, but rewarding in terms of the bleating that would be likely.
You mean the evidence of flowing liquid due to river-like features on the surface isn't a good clue? I know that "flowing liquid" doesn't mean water, but given the possible pressures and temperatures and chemistry, what else, pray tell, might it be?
Fluids all follow pretty much the same physics. And fluids, scientifically speaking, include gases. A hostile atmosphere on a remote planet can, after enough time, grow features that look exactly like a river, etc. has run through. As can any number of natural phenomena.
Hell, it's like seeing that photograph of "desert sand struck by lightning" and saying that it can "only" be caused by the sand coming alive and trying to grow into a tree. From a scientific perspective, without any evidence, we can't say what those features are caused by.
and with martian gravity only 38% of earth's dry sand will flow like water very easily once agitated on a slope. And big rocks will too with a bit more of a slope.
And you cant easily tell the difference in the erosion they cause.
Finding water on Mars would be a lot more fun than finding physics or some 'new' geology but my bet is with the latter.
The trouble is the people involved in researching this will be inclined to wet themselves with excitement at slightly hydrated minerals.
And those in the press will be inclined to think an excited martian scientist means that there are 7 legged man eating monsters up there.
And keeping quiet only feeds the conspiracy theorists.
If there are martians they would be well advised to hide in as inaccessible place as possible.
Yeah, I think that the way they've built this up, the public wouldn't settle for anything less than Deja Thoris.
>> The trouble is the people involved in researching this will be inclined to wet themselves with excitement at slightly hydrated minerals.
I see a great career ahead of you at El Reg.
...get over it.... and you religious types, yes you, you can finally throw your bibles away and stop fighting over the blue and the red hats - or whatever bullshit it is this week that causes you to kill and maim hundreds of innocent bystanders, in the name of *insert name of your god here*.
If you think finding life on mars would stop the religious types then you have a lot to learn.
To those people both finding and not finding life will prove the existance of whatever deity they want it to.
Don't blame religion for the worlds ills. Man will kill and maim his fellow man for resources, greed, power, influence and anything else thats suit his purposes. Religion is just a convenient vehicle for them to use. Most religions teach peace and understanding. The message just gets cast aside. If the money spent on "Defence" was spent on solving the worlds resource problems, and exploration, we'd have had bases on Mars ages ago.
Funnily enough, this reminds me of a "talk" I saw in 2003 or 2004, which was supposed to be about life on Mars. It was at around a table at a restaurant during quiet hours, with this engineering (as he described himself, although I doubt) guy speaking and some 6 or 7 people there to watch, and discuss afterwards. The title, which I don't remember, was intriguing. So I went.
Getting there, I found out it was arranged by some ministry. OK, that does not mean it will be bad. The guy started, and it soon became clear it was a creationist propaganda event, and all kinds of (the same old and discredited) attacks on the feasibility of evolution. The Mars thing? Well, the speaker's conclusion was that there could not be life, specially intelligent life, on Mars (or elsewhere) because such life would have to be "saved" (in the Christian way). And to be saved, there would have to be sacrifice of Christ over and over again. And apparently god "can't afford" (I remember those were his words) to do that. How about that, this guy knows god personally! Who'd have thought.
Of course this happened in America. The capital of Virginia, to be precise.
"stop fighting over the blue and the red hats"
Yeah, they were supposed to be green!
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It's probably organic compounds since the soil analyzer is geared for detecting such things.
Still, the soil analysis equipment does have a camera with a resolution in micrometers so a mini fossil is a possibility (which would confirm another, disputed, finding in a Mars meteorite).
So maybe in return for some corporate money, they have had Curiousity discover low, low prices at Wal-Mart's Black Friday blowout event!!
... they've discovered they could save on their mars rover insurance with Gocompare!
I'll stick my neck out and speculate that the big news is that the sparkley bits that Curiosity found in its soil samples are ice crystals.
I reckon they're diamonds. This time next year: manned mission to Mars.
"If there are martians they would be well advised to hide in as inaccessible place as possible."
Are you suggesting that Flash Gordon was right and we should look for the Rock People in those caves?
We've found oil!
Its all a load of cobblers, after all, the chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one they said.
But it's well known that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten, right?
Whilst I'm fairly sure (but can't stop myself from hoping/speculating!) it won't be anything considered Earth-shattering from the point of view of your average lay person, I think it will be something that strengthens the case for current/past life on Mars.
Anything that strengthens the case for getting people out there is a massive bonus in my opinion. Just wish I didn't know about this announcement ahead of time - it's killing me!
Well in time it won't just be boots on mars... i imagine there'll be a superdrug, and smiths, and a robert dyas
So a boffin reported this but wants to make sure before releasing the full details. Why do I expect the result is something like "this type of crystal is more reddish when it forms on Mars than on Earth"
Perhaps they'll report that Mars isn't red, it's umber.
It's an Earthly meteorite
Mine's the one with the methane pump in the pocket
We've been here before. They've found a Segway.
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