"I am in the process of finding the actual IP..."
Interesting for a spokesman to start using the singular first person. Did his friend have to go home for tea or something?
After being taken out for ten days by a DDoS attack the WikiLeaks site is back online, thanks to some cloudy support from CloudFlare. The organization said that it had approached CloudFlare about hosting its site, since it has massive capacity and good systems for spotting an blocking DDoS attacks. WikiLeaks said it was …
"A judge or jury should decide ......if CloudFlare is a content delivery network, or if they are closer to a hosting provider. I think Stratfor should sue CloudFlare, and I don't even like Stratfor! See our tax-exempt, nonprofit site at www.cloudflare-watch.org" ...... Daniel Brandt Posted Wednesday 15th August 2012 03:09 GMT
What's wrong, DB .... feeling a bit left out of the leading wolf pack and having to make do with tit-bits and trying to making a living with tittle tattle justification? The metadatamining troll business just aint what it used to be, is it, with all these new fangled and entangling Quant IDEntities queering the pitch and clearing away dud and dumb explosive munitions?
If CloudFlare are both, and easily mistaken for both a content delivery network and/or just a provider for hosts of services, are they neither the one or the other, and something completely different and virtually new and surreal. And that is something which the likes of a Stratfor would just love to be, ...... and what world wide webs are perfectly created to cover and conceal in fabulous layers of invisibly thick and impenetrable cloud ..... rather than delivering what is so much more a deluded shark's role which just infects the internet with pilot phish and AI minnow services trying to convince gullible fat cats and vulnerable thin clients that it is the real deal and something completely different and virtually new and surreal, but so clearly isn't, and can never be with its current programs configuration and executive administration.
Stratfor are not alone though in that seriously overcrowded field/rotten barrel of apples and peers, although that is no comfort indeed.
"I think Stratfor should sue CloudFlare, and I don't even like Stratfor!"
That's kind of funny because I am (genuinely) a subscriber to Stratfor and don't think they should sue Cloudflare. Unless Cloudflare are doing something illegal or immoral (and I don't see a good case for either), then there is no reason to sue. As a subscriber to Stratfor, my issue is with the people who broke open and distributed my subscriber email address (along with many others) and meant I had to change my credit card details. I don't have an issue with the role that Wikileaks is trying to play in bringing to light information that the government would like to supress.
(I have an issue with some particulars of Wikileaks but not the general principle - it's too important to society).
It's legal to DDOS a site because of it's content?
I don't see the FBI rushing to punish these people, or a call for them to be dragged kicking and screaming through the media.
No comment on WikiLeaks in general but it does surprise me no one is asking this question (of course we all know the answer ;) ).
"I am in the process of finding the actual IP address of WikiLeaks web server. I have a couple of leads and believe I will be able to do it, however it will take some time."
And they think that will help? heck it costs peanuts to set up hundreds of synched virtual servers on dozens of networks and route the DNS for 'master.wikileaks.org' to whichever one isn't being hammered today.
What Wikileaks does, and how, is worthy of serious debate. On the other hand; Antileaks has shown themselves to be little more than a self-righteous, angry mob which seeks to simply beat the crap out of those they dislike to silence them. Way to go in confirming widely held stereotypes of America and Americans.
A head-on ruck with Anonymous should reveal who's the hardest top dog when it comes to beating up the other guy. Bring 'em on.
I'm not sure what to make of it.. It could be one guy, or it could be a bunch, or it could be the gubment. Not ruling that out, lol. The mission statement for antileaks just looks so.. hollow. Ok, so, they want Assange to go on trial, with the accused crime I'd say that's a fair point, probability of extradition and being whispered off to the Gulags notwithstanding, you have to admit; avoiding going to trial for a rape charge looks pretty suspect. But what I don't get is how that relates to the activities they're doing? What the hell does wikileaks have to do with Assange(tm) going to trial? How is this action in any way shape or form related to the mission statement?
I read through the antileaks twitter feed, where they call Assange(tm) a "terrorist". That's pretty odd. Do people really say "Or the terrorists win"? I might not be a criminologist, but I don't think Assange is guilty of terrorism..
So, really, to me, the whole thing looks like this:
"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I don't like Assange, he's a meanie and a terrorist, I'm going to break all of his toys because that will make everything all better."
I just don't get it. I don't understand how an activist group could form around the revolutionary concept of breaking one man's toys. Surely activist groups need a mission statement that enflames and incites, something that demands revolution and progress, real and lasting change. Antileaks isn't an activist group. It's a kindergarten bully.
"I just don't get it. I don't understand how an activist group could form around the revolutionary concept of breaking one man's toys. Surely activist groups need a mission statement that enflames and incites, something that demands revolution and progress, real and lasting change. Antileaks isn't an activist group. It's a kindergarten bully."
I would say that is true for most of these so called "hacktivist" groups that spring up when the academic year draws to a close. Lulsec were the same, no real mission other than to piss off as many people as possible, Anonymous does have some good causes but other times acts the same childish way.
The timing of this is supect, this week a decision is expected on Assange's asylum and this plays into his hands by backing up his claim that both he and Wikileaks are being persecuted.
I don't think this is CIA or anything as Government would have to be extremely incompetent to make him and wikileaks a martyr at this time.
Assange and his cronies getting a little taste of reality. I suspect there will be more. .... Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 15th August 2012 15:33 GMT
Hmmm? ...... A little taste of reality is then outed as being a premeditated program of intimidation and oppression, AC? Yes, but that is only for numbskulls and boneheads. Others are programming in dimensions which you have not even conceived are imaginable and they are protected sublimely by the intelligence which is needed to gain access to proprietary driver codes.
That then makes the playing field a godsend for those who are adept and deft in virtual reality programming ..... and you do know about DEFT .... yes?
And when something is invaluable and priceless, have you any idea about how much it costs to not deliver it faultlessly to clients who are filthy cash rich and secure protected intellectual property poor?
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