exactly how many iPads may they claim on expenses?
MPs may have had their heavy parliamentary drinking habits curtailed, but the 650 politicos occupying the Palace of Westminster might be cheered by the fact that they will soon be issued with their very own fondleslab. Taxpayers, however, might be less impressed given that the upgrade from laptops to Apple iPads will cost …
exactly how many iPads may they claim on expenses?
That depends if how they use their second iPad allowance and flip it between the rest of the family.
BTW just how many pages of a4 do you need to print to exceed the cost of an iPad?
Double btw - how long before an MP looses his iPad with something secret on it?
... essential for their duties as an MP
It's fortunate Labours gift to the UK in the form of the first woman Home Secretary is no longer in the House of Corruption, but then again nanny doesn't allow pron in it's app store so that's alright then.
There was a story the other day about the cost of Windows for government. Are our MP's Microsoft whores or Apple whores?
Don't worry about the adjective - it isn't necessary. The term 'whore' implies 'available to anyone for the appropriate fee'.
Or just whores?
"Politicos had been testing the Apple 'slab in the Commons since early 2011 with the idea being that the devices could save money on print costs."
Erm, why do laptops require you to print anything more than tablets do?
Because laptops are less portable.
Ha! Ha! Ha! F*ck off...
I wonder if there are any tech-savvy MP's out there who would be tempted to jailbreak their device....
Oh, and I look forward to the free iPad I'll no doubt find on a park bench in Westminster or some dodgy Gentleman'ss club...
Isn't that an oxymoron?
Some MPs are, or at least fall into the "competent user" category. I heard Louise Mensch yesterday on the radio regarding her current issues with abuse on networks such as Twitter. Regardless of what can be thought of the platform she went out of her way to point out that the issue lay with the users and not with twitter as a platform, which was a pleasant surprise given that many in power might just call for "more regulation" or similar, clearly she understands that users are responsible for their actions/statements and also that in most cases, current laws suffice perfectly well if applied where required.
Lol - since when are iPads upgrades to laptops? Oh wait - I see what you did there...
Seriously though - right now there's an IS guy who's either:
- taking up heavy drinking. And crying.
- too busy doing his CV and looking for a rapid exit to worry about the security nightmare he now has.
It was made clear they weren't iPads... However it seems some tech writers don't know the difference.
At the age of most MPs, the tablets they'll need are little blue ones.
MP's are vain, image sensitive, technically illiterate, and unconstrained by budget.
Of course they're getting iPads.
Add any boardroom level director to that list.
"It was made clear they weren't iPads... However it seems some tech writers don't know the difference."
It's already common for "the man on street" to call any mp3 player an "iPod". To some extent I'm hearing smartphones beiing generically referred to as a iPhone. No doubt it's happeing with tablets too.
It may be that in a few years time Apple may find their trademark iThingy drastically watered down through "common usage", similar to Hoover, Sellotape and Post It.
If we assume each MP costs us 250 grand (probably more), these things pay for themselves with a 0.1% effiency gain. And it might be much higher when Sir Humphrey gets told to "squirt it through to my pad" and has to learn how
For some reason I can just see that most Westminsterians will, after receiving their documents* in a rainforest-friendly way on their new iPads, print these very documents for filing purposes on their new (expenses claimed back) home printer (ink and paper claimed back)**.
Effload of good that does.
But it's good to know that they'll be save from pr0n Apps.
* formerly printed in the cabinet's outsourced printroom on recycling paper on a Xerox Nuvera 144 at 0.7p a page.
**now printed on HP AirPrint inkjet MFD , Staples HP paper and cartridges for 18.3p a page.
How many devices will be left on buses and trains?
Presumably more than laptops and folders of briefing notes currently.
I know what you're thinking, remote wipe.....(insert your own joke)
Err... given the very large pay packets and obscene "pensions" they get, not to mention walking into well paying jobs once they "retire"... why can't they buy their own damn ipads?
Because of government procurement regulations. You need special permission to use your own equipment at work - doubly so if it's something unusual - because if it breaks the government have to replace it like for like.
But, haven't they heard of the BYOD party? (It's making sweeping gains in local government and should win seats in Parliament).
The system already allows for BYOD. I'm a government employee, and at work I use a 23" widescreen monitor that I supplied myself. The sticking point is that if it breaks, my employer has to replace it with another 23".
In and of itself BYOD is a great idea, and in smaller businesses it works a treat. However, when you're dealing with hundreds or thousands of employees the effort required to get so many different devices talking to each other is not cost effective. You're also faced with the issue of what to do when someone's personal property breaks in the course of doing their job; they have every right to claim a replacement from their employer, and the employer loses all savings from central procurement contracts because they can't establish a standard device to buy in bulk. It's easier and cheaper just to give everyone the same.
With alledged savings of also £50K, I think £30K of it was one tech guys job.
Costing £160 each year for 3 years with a data bundle on top of around £15 per month.
Still unsure how the locations services function, and the other fun bits will get on etc..
Sounds like a security and privacy nightmare, mind you might be fun using a FindMyMP app and see if your MP is actually at work.
I'll keep this AC... but would it be any use for terrorists?
What about the Lords?
Some of whom are a little odd as well (but generally in a better way than the MPs).
If there's a saving to be made in terms of paper and printing costs etc, will this rollout also apply to the parliamentary aides and other assistants of varying ilks?
Lords are getting them too - currently being tested.
>If there's a saving to be made in terms of paper and printing costs
Not really - assuming they mostly buy iPads, they'll all be needing new printers with AirPrint support - probably in all 4 stations [home1, home2, parliament & constituency offices].
As much as I am not a fan of apple, I have to agree that given the costs of excessive amounts of paper which then incur further costs of secure shreading and proper disposal, (which seem to be forgotten by some costings) the fondleslabs do appear to be a potential money saver and; let's face it, the competition has been slow to the mark so deserve to be left out.
There are specialist companies dealing with the software that adds extra security to the documents should the fondle slab find itself being fondled by digits other than its parliamentary masters.
Politics and personal pernickity perceptions put one side, I reckon this is a good move and I applaud Apple for actually achieving business success by being the first to this market niche with a product that does the job.
That is, of course, that in the future, we don't see some minister facing yet more calls for resegnation for being too close to Steve Jobs which, if you look inside some Whitehall department offices, might not be too far from the truth.
"costs of secure shreading"
Hmmmm...an interesting point. Are there any secure document deletion apps which can actually wipe a document on SSD based devices? Bearing in mind the wear levelling algorithms in the SSD hardware.
And an excellent choice if I may say so.
Of course, there is also the advantage that the device can be located and materials wiped no?
These are going to be non .gsi .xgsi devices then?
total shambollocks and a disaster lurking just around the corner!
Personally, even as a techie, when reviewing documentation nothing beats a hard-copy and a pencil.
Secondly, don't mp's do a lot of writing? Something that tablets are pretty shit for?
One of the highlights of Auntie's revamped F1 coverage is Gary Anderson doodling over a photo of an F1 car. Part of me despairs that the Beeb can't knock up graphics. But mostly I relish a simple, efficient solution that eschews needless high-tech gimmickry. Go Gary!
Indeed, I always preferred the wobbly light-pen on the snooker compared to the solid white bars (that no doubt accurately predict angles off the cushions).
Hawkeye's pretty snazzy though, bit creepy how Virgo personifies it though.
Just check your regular train seat or park bench...
These are MP's. Your'e better off looking in public toilets, brothels, duck houses, moats and strip clubs.
Maybe with iPads they MIGHT actually bother to read their emails and reply!!! heaven forbid they do their job and TALK to constituants when needed (yes I am annoyed i've had no reply from my MP)
Try investing in an envelope and stamp. I've never failed to get a response from my MP that way.
With email, you'll be lucky to make it through their spam filters.
"Ok so how do I print from this thing?"
That's how they save paper...
Do they get to expense their angry birds so they have something to do in the house?
And when they are away from the 'Office' in Westminster and are required to work offline on documents - how are slabs going to help them then?
Oh, I know, they print them out, rather than having a laptop with reasonable storage, where they could work offline.
Slabs - great for reading the daily paper f-all use for much else in the business world!!
Why an expensive iPad when you can get a android slab on amazon for a quarter of the price.
"cost anything between £399 and £659 a pop depending on the spec"
If someone else is buying it, they'll all go for 3G top spec at £659 each!
WASTE OF MY MONEY!
if it was replacing laptops. But they aren't replacements, are they?
So now and in the future a guy in the US decides how much device-choice the MP's have: none.
If you have to commit to a closed platform, then why to a hardware platform with no diversity at all, instead of a true data platform with 100's of possible devices running it.
"Taxpayers, however, might be less impressed given that the upgrade from laptops to Apple iPads"
'Alleged upgrade', surely.
Hasn't anyone learnt that computing power never ever decreases the amount of paper generated. It always generates more. Has done since time immemorial*. There should be a law for it, like Moore's Law for chips.
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