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As expected, Apple has announced a major foray into the education arena with the release of three new – and free – apps, one for reading interactive textbooks, another for creating said textbooks, and a third for accessing K-12, college, and university course materials in iTunes U. More than the apps themselves, what Apple has …

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  1. K. Adams
    Childcatcher

    Get 'em while they're young...

    You instil brand loyalty into impressionable youth, and guarantee a sustained market for your products in the bargain.

    Ingenious! (Or ingenuous, not sure which...)

    1. Voland's right hand Silver badge
      Devil

      At least quote properly

      He gives the kids free samples,

      Because he knows full well

      That today's young innocent faces

      Will be tomorrow's clientele.

      Tom Lehrer, "The Old Dope Peddler"

    2. LarsG

      LOOKING AT BACK LIT SCREENS....

      All day, fantastic exercise for your eyes!

      The clever people will train as opticians because in 10 years time the condition 'appleye' will be so prevalent there will be huge opportunities to make money out of them.

      1. Trygve
        FAIL

        Backlit screens..

        Yes, that's right. Almost everyone in the western world is now blind, as a result of watching TV and looking at computer monitors their lives. We all have to be led around by elderly people who grew up before TVs and monitors were invented. Thank god for seeing-eye pensioners, I say.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Actually....

          ..you may want to check your facts...

          http://www.youreyeguide.co.uk/eyehealth/health-computerdamage.html

          Granted it's not a direct result of the display, but more to do with lighting, shiny screens, not changing your field of vision etc.

          Also take a peek here.

          http://www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/vdubreaks.htm

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Are the dangers of overuse of CRT vs. LCD, OLED, plasma etc. the same? What about CCFL vs. LED or EL backlights?

            1. Yet Another Commentard

              Eyes and ears

              I also think it worthwhile investing in hearing-aid maker shares. All those kids with their iPods on on the tube, I can hear the "tune" (very loose description) as well as they can.

              In a rather odd way I await the first litigation against Apple (and Sony, for the Walkman) for damage to hearing following prolonged use of headphones attached to a playback device. Or somesuch. One can only assume Microsoft would be safe, because nobody actually bought a zune. As far as I know.

              Now, being old I need to pop over somewhere else to grumble about prices, lack of respect, and above all, can't they play a tune you can whistle?

          2. MonkeyBot
            Boffin

            Actually, actually....

            Whilst they might not be sending people blind, the high contrast does reduce your eyes' ability to edge detect and increases the brain's processing requirements for grapheme-phoneme conversion. Our eyes evolved to be efficient in full colour under natural lighting so there's no good reason for us to be efficient on a bright backlit screen.

            However, if the program allows you set the background to your own RGB settings, it could be an improvement on paper books. You can already do this with Windows but OSX doesn't have a single setting that affects all programs - there are a few 3rd party utilities that will put a tint across the screen.

            Simply changing to white text on a black background would be a big improvement.

            1. Jim in Hayward

              This setting exists in the Universal Access app available in the Settings control panel on Mac OS X. Don't see this option on the iPhone though.

      2. JRS
        Coat

        Don't you mean

        ieye...

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    CATCH THEM YOUNG.....

    brainwash them, indoctrinate them, use subliminal messaging,

    Until finally

    They will belong to meeeeeeeee.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Fixed it!

      "They will belong to i.......................

  3. Tom 35

    Should be love/hate for text book companies

    They hate students reselling their books to the next years students and have to keep creating new versions (mostly moving the pages around) to make using a used book harder. I remember one they tried shrink wrap licence to block resale. Now no one can resell their old books!

    But they are just going to love giving Apple 30% off the top.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      I can see them biting

      Charge the same as real books, block resell, and they don't actually have to mfr and distribute dead tree versions anymore. What's not to love - even giving Apple 30% they might still come out ahead?

      The textbook market (in the sates at least) is a scam - always has been - and probably more so in primary/secondary schools than college (which, I agree, is pretty damn bad too).

      My favorite was always the professors who mandated we use/buy their books to take their class : )

      1. Peter Gathercole Silver badge

        @AC 21:38

        From my days as a student (very dim, I must admit), I remember the regular jamboree in the student union bookshop buying as many second-hand text books from my reading list as I could in order to save some money. I never felt the need to sell them again, but I know friends who did.

        I can't see that happening with iBooks (even it it were legal!), so there may be a fault in the business model, although give students an incentive to break the DRM on the eBooks, and they probably will.

      2. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

        Professors requiring their textbooks

        "My favorite was always the professors who mandated we use/buy their books to take their class"

        That's a perfectly sensible practice. Writing a textbook is a lot of work, and while some authors get a fair bit of income from them, many don't. And most of those who do have to update the content frequently, so the hourly rate still isn't very good.

        No professors get rich simply from requiring their own classes to buy their textbooks. Professors typically teach between a hundred and a thousand students a year (depending on subject area and type of institution), and royalties on textbooks are generally on the order of a dollar a volume. If you're getting rich from textbooks, it's because *other* professors have decided to require your book.

        What teaching your own textbook does is provide your students with the material you feel is appropriate for your course. That's why you put it in your textbook in the first place. Why would you select a text that's a poorer match? (Assuming one is even available - in many cases, there's no published alternative.)

    2. Chad H.
      FAIL

      @ Tom

      Just how much "Off the top" are they giving to bookshops at the moment?

      Or are you under the foolish impression the Bookshops are charities?

      1. Goat Jam

        Indeed

        When I worked in a bookshop the standard, built into the cover price markup for the retailer was 40%. Or was it 45? Still, it is more than apple's 30% and the publisher doesn't have to pay to print, store and distribute the book either.

        Also, with no physical books they no longer have to cover the costs of returns if they make a wrong guess as to how many copies to make at printing time.

        Really, ebooks *should* be much cheaper to the consumer than they currently are, publishers are taking all the cost savings involved with e-publishing and passing very little back to the consumer.

        1. ThomH

          @Goat Jam

          Technically a markup of 40% would leave the publisher getting 1/1.4 * 100 percent of the cover price, which is about 71.5% — slightly better than Apple. By taking 30% of the sale price, Apple are effectively applying a markup of almost 43%.

          Of course your other points are valid though, and the pricing looks reasonable. It sounds like they've divided the cost of a textbook that should last five years by five, on the assumption that each student will buy their own and not be able to resell it. Leaving weight considerations aside, I guess whether that's better for the consumer depends on what the resale price of US school textbooks tends to be.

          1. Jim in Hayward

            Resale value is VERY low, if you can even resell it! In over 60% of the cases resale is not offered because a new edition is available.

            1. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

              Textbook resale

              Resale opportunities have improved for students because of the broader, more open market provided by the Internet. Many students successfully sell older editions online directly to other students. There's no financial risk to the seller (as there is to a bookstore buying back used textbooks), and the buyer often doesn't know, and doesn't particularly care, that they're getting an older edition. (Yes, professors often stipulate that students have the latest edition; and many students still get older ones, and muddle along.)

              And many university bookstores in the US are now renting textbooks on a per-term (semester, quarter, or whatever) basis. Apparently that's a viable business model, or as viable as the whole sell-and-maybe-buy-back model.

  4. clanger9
    WTF?

    Still can't read iBooks on MacOS?

    iTunes will happily let you buy eBooks, but there's no way to read them without an iOS device.

    Same with this software - it'll let you create iBooks, but not actually read the damn things (AFAICT).

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Stop

      I have to agree - as a cross between Keynote and Pages, it'd be great to slideshow the eBook I've created on my interactive whiteboard in front of the students, using my Macbook. They can follow on their iPads, whilst I demonstrate and check for comprehension, etc.

      I understand Apple might be trying to encourage the use of iPads, but to expect a teacher to create a work, push it out to students and then have to eschew the use of the interactive whiteboard in favour of a handheld iPad connected to a data projector is, unfortunately, rather an obvious shortfall.

      I'm a teacher, clearly - I can see lots of potential here, but there's a little bit of fail, too...

      1. Uncle Hank
        Gimp

        Use an iPad...

        … like your students.

    2. stu 4
      Gimp

      xcode

      you could run the app in the Xcode iPad emulator.

      I admit - it's pants, but you did ask.

  5. Albert Hall

    1000 words

    Isn't that the Dell Dude in the yellow T-shirt? Looks like he's reading someone else's stuff! Dude, you've been Delled.

    1. Field Marshal Von Krakenfart
      Joke

      Yellow t-shirt is having a David Bowman moment

      My god, it's full of angry birds.

  6. ElReg!comments!Pierre

    Oh good.

    So, that's Apple entering the eBook market then. Not sure where they pulled the _text_book part from though. Perhaps to appear like they "created" a new thing instead of looking like they just joined a segment that has been around since the seventies. After all, they created the portable music player, they created the smartphone, they created the tablet PC, etc...

    Apple's PR department is definitely very good.

    1. ElReg!comments!Pierre

      Note to the fanbuoys

      This post wasn't a dig at Apple's brand new product. I'm just calling an eBook an eBook. And I bet Apple's version will be very user-friendly, as always. It's just not remotely as innovative as the rumour was suggesting.

      1. OrsonX
        Happy

        fanbuoys

        People who like anchored floating devices.

        1. ElReg!comments!Pierre

          Re: fanbuoys

          > People who like anchored floating devices.

          I was more thinking around the line of "light-headed, happily chained to the rock bottom, apple-bobbing (with the waves), hot-hair-blowing" but please do make your own definition.

    2. Fuzz

      textbooks

      The reason why they are textbooks rather than ebooks is that these are specifically books for learning in the classroom, which is what a textbook is.

      Apple haven't invented the textbook what they've done is created a simple publication and distribution system for electronic interactive textbooks. I think the concept is great but the tie in to Apple hardware is very bad, bad for kids and schools that is, obviously very good for Apple.

      1. nematoad
        Stop

        Read the article on venomous porridge about the terms and conditions imposed by Apple if you use ibooks author for commercial purposes.

        http://venomousporridge.com/post/16126436616/ibooks-author-eula-audacity

        There you will see what Apple is all about.

        1. Ben Tasker

          Nice

          So in other words if I want to sell an e-book, it's Apple only or avoid iBook author like the plague.

          For the TL:DR crowd;

          From the iBooks Author EULA

          "IMPORTANT NOTE:

          If you charge a fee for any book or other work you generate using this software (a “Work”), you may only sell or distribute such Work through Apple (e.g., through the iBookstore) and such distribution will be subject to a separate agreement with Apple."

          With some extra stuff later in the EULA.

          1. EyeCU

            Oooh Nasty

            Some would argue that it is their software provided for free and so should be able to impose a restriction like this in order to get revenue to pay for the software.

            However, change the word Apple for Microsoft and how many people would be up in arms? Suddenly all the fanboys would be shouting as loud as they could about the evil M$. Anti competitive vendor lock-in like this should be made illegal.

            Should be noted that Amazon don't even attempt to put this kind of restriction on content produced for the Kindle and leave you free to port it to any format and use any sales channel you like.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I might have had respect for Apple if these textbooks were going to be published using open standards. As it stands Apple can go fuck itself.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      someone forgot their wheaties this morning

      Eric, you can use your real name here, we won't tell.

    2. Chad H.

      the iPad can read "Open standard" ebooks

      Its up to the Author/Publisher what they want to use

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: the iPad can read "Open standard" ebooks

        Yes, but can iBook make them?

        1. Jim in Hayward

          Yes. You can save in the open standard EPUB format.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    New way of reading

    Yeah I bet, since reading on an iPad is still a serious eyestrain compared to dedicated e-readers.

    1. Chad H.

      No, but

      Its a completely different world from having to lug the textbooks around with you; and the iPad tends to be more useful in general than an eReader.

      1. JEDIDIAH
        Linux

        The test of time...

        I have text books that 20 years old and other books that are older than that. I have seen 60 year old books that were still pretty useful. Plenty of people seem content to ignore things like total cost of ownership, longevity and other issues.

        The real problem with textbooks is not that they are heavy or expensive but that they are largely redundant. What demand there is is kept artificially high by the same sort of proprietary interests that Apple itself represents.

        1. Yet Another Commentard

          Test of time

          Paper does have its advantages. Some things will be the same 50 years ago as they are today, so the textbook remains pretty much the same. For example most physical constants won't change. The date of the battle of Hastings is unlikely to be moved to 1974.

          Moreover, the dead tree text books won't suddenly not work any more because the e-reader has been updated and is no longer backwards compatible, or the DRM has knackered your ability to look at it because you've done something unusual. Oh, and at the end of your first year at Uni, can you sell your e-books to the next year to get some cash back to buy the second year books you need?

      2. Michael Wojcik Silver badge

        "Its [sic] a completely different world from having to lug the textbooks around with you; and the iPad tends to be more useful in general than an eReader."

        I've never minded "lugging" textbooks around, and I'd much prefer a good ereader (e-Ink screen and physical keyboard, like the original Kindle) to a frickin' iPad. And yes, I've used the latter. When I want a computer, I have my laptop.

        If Apple put an iPad into my hands, as Rik wrote in the article, I'd hand it right back to them. And I'd drop any class that required an Apple-only e-text. Life's too short for that sort of nonsense.

  9. Steve Coffman

    eReaders

    I've been saying for a number of years now that it's just going to be a matter of time before we shift away from traditional textbooks to some sort of eReader in education - it makes sense from the standpoint of being more easy to readily update curriculum, it would be a lot less for students to have to carry around, etc.

    But in order for that to happen, the device must 1) be rugged - it's going to have to stand up to it getting dropped, spilled on and abused, 2) have great battery life, 3) be easy to update (if it's not a networked device) and 4) be inexpensive! And right now the iPad doesn't fulfill all those requirements - plus there is the issue (as has been pointed out) of it not being as easy to read as other devices. I'm certain the shift will happen, but as for right now for most educational institutions the iPad (in it's current incarnation anyway) is not that device.

    1. Chad H.

      I disagree

      The iPad seems to hit at least 3, with the 4th being very much dependent on your point of view. It stands up to my abuse (and believe me, abuse is the word) quite well, has great battery life, and is easy to update....

      1. Tringle

        So inexpensive on your planet means something at least 4 times more costly than the alternatives. Is there space for one more in this paradise, and how do I get in?

        1. Chad H.

          @ Tringle

          Which Alternatives? Are we talking about Ebook readers with signidifantly less functionality, that can't in a pinch double as laptop (thus adding more portability, and more opportunity to write whenever), or other device?

      2. ElReg!comments!Pierre

        @ Chad: "I disagree"

        "The iPad seems to hit at least 3"

        You can drop it -nope

        > battery life

        More than one day use away from the mains -nope

        Charges over USB 2.0 -nope

        > easy to update

        Could be discussed. Easy when you can log on your Apple account. Tied to some form of access to your hard-earned (updates won't be free -not that they necessarily should). Let's put this one on the "maybe" pile.

        > be inexpensive

        That one hardly needs adressing.

        So that's 3 definite "No"s and one "maybe".

        Please explain the train of thoughts that lead you to post that the iPad meets "at least 3", or be labelled a fanbuoy (oh, the infamy!).

        Disclaimer for the thought-impaired: getting the facts right is not a dig at anyone's personnal cult. Sheesh, kids these day.

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