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Here we are again on iPhone day, and once more the world waits on the edge of its seat to see what the fruitchomp masterminds of Cupertino have in store. We'll tell you what they've got in store - and none of it's good. Without further ado, here are ten points you should ponder before you even think of buying a new iPhone 5. …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Pure tosh

    "If you compare an iPhone to another machine which contains similar hardware, it is hugely more expensive."

    Really? Samsung Galaxy II? HTC Desire S?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Not tosh

      Really! £100 + (£15PCM * 24 months) = £460 for my Galaxy S II. I reckon' an iPhone 5 will set you back around £35PCM (for a savvy buyer) at a guess, over 24 months that's £840. Those figures based on 200 minutes/unlimited texts + 500MB data.

    2. Dropper
      FAIL

      Completely true

      Even if you buy Samsung or HTC phones upon release they're $100 cheaper than old iPhones. Buying a new iPhone will cost at least another $100 - more if you want it unlocked.

      Most droids price at around $200 with a two year contract. Most iPhones are priced at $300 under the same terms and almost every feature is worse. If having a phone that has access to iTunes but can't properly browse websites created after 1995, swap a dead battery or add more storage is for you, fine. Personally I prefer a smartphone with a full-size screen, a decent feature set and the ability to stay connected to a phone call for that kind of money.

      1. Sean Baggaley 1
        FAIL

        Strange.

        Comparing _subsidised_ prices is pointless: all sorts of factors enter into the equation.

        I bought my iPhone 4 because it was – by far – the _cheapest_ smartphone on offer (that didn't have a shit resistive, 320x400 screen). I was actually planning to buy an HTC model, but it was fully €150 _more_ expensive.

        Of course, Italian operators don't do subsidies much. And phones here are rarely locked either.

        (France has a similar market: phones _must_ be unlocked there. It's the law. Or it was when I was working there over a year ago.)

        Not everyone lives in the US. Or the UK.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          @Sean Baggaley 1

          > Not everyone lives in the US. Or the UK.

          Do you notice the address of this site is www.theregister.co.*UK* ?

          It's perfectly fine for someone to assume UK, just as it would be to assume italy if the site was .it

          1. rciafardone
            FAIL

            You fail at Internet... FOREVER

            Do you know the last time i took the site extension into account? Never. Heck unless i am looking to buy something i don't even care about the language. The internet is about connection on a WORLD level, it should not matter if you are in USA, Italy, UK, Venezuela or freaking Somalia.

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: You fail at Internet... FOREVER

              Actually, you fail forever.

              How many US based sites have a .co.uk address ?

            2. Steve Evans

              RE: You fail at Internet... FOREVER

              "Do you know the last time i took the site extension into account? Never."

              Really? Your online shopping experience must be a whole world of wonder (literally). When will it arrive? *Will* it arrive? And how much did I pay for postage!!?

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    And it's popcorn time now yes?

  3. cloudgazer

    wow - somebody is really bitter.

  4. Northern Fop
    Trollface

    See icon

    This is just a fanboi troll, isn't it?

    Let the games commence!

  5. Wibble
    Unhappy

    Sour grapes?

    Or trolltastic?

  6. stim

    and...

    ...you become a sheep...

    1. ThomH Silver badge

      Embracing the adversarial system?

      You wouldn't expect an article entitled "Ten reasons why you shouldn't buy an iPhone 5" to be a balanced summary. In fact you would expect it explicitly not to include any arguments in favour whatsoever. It's just a summary of the arguments in favour of a viewpoint; the conclusion precedes the discussion.

      Obviously I'm confident that the opposing case will be forthcoming. Our favourite irreverent technical publication wouldn't descend to taking sides, surely?

      1. thecakeis(not)alie

        @ThomH

        Is that a request?

      2. dssf

        "Poncey". I laughed when i saw that, and looked it up, and laughed even more when I saw:

        "Pompous tosser", hehehehehe.... LP/UK humor is more lively than US humor, I'll say!

        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=poncey

        "The actions of a pompous tosser who thinks their value is higher than it is actually worth. The actions of one who thinks they are either overly stylish, cool or smart etc,... "

        1. Bob. Hitchen
          Joke

          Er poncey has a whole variety of meanings including someone who looks after game birds. UK humour beats the crap out of anything from the US. However game birds do tend to reduce tossers.

          In this case poncey means more style than substance.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      But of course..

      And of the highest order, El Reg, I salute you. What makes it even better is that all ten points are true (although number 6 is a little unfair)

    3. DrXym Silver badge

      Yes it's trolling

      But most of the points are entirely valid.

  7. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I am an iPhone developer. If Apple reverted to having removable batteries in their mobile products then I would never, ever buy one again. Who wrote this article?

  8. TheRealRoland
    Happy

    Getting some popcorn...

    Hmmmm.... Butter.

  9. Jez Caudle
    Megaphone

    All true but ...

    ... think of Skype.

    On half of all Android phones it just won't work. It won't work on mine. After a software update the mic stopped working on Sony Experia phones.

    The problem is fragmentation. The iPhone eco system doesn't have that problem to the same extent that Android does.

    How many people mod their TV? iPhones and iPads are for consuming stuff and they meet that need. Us Geeks have Android and we root and install etc. When the walled gardens are erected us Geeks will still know how to tunnel and subvert.

    Each to their own I say.

  10. a06274

    Not sure I get it ...

    Fascinating list, but surely anyone who already has an iPhone and is very happy with it, is unlikely to be bothered by any of the items on it, and therefore will continue to purchase an iPhone at their earliest convenience?

    What you're essentially saying is that anyone who hates Apple, and would much prefer an Android, WinPho or Nokia smartphone, should listen to your advice not to buy an iPhone if they know what's good for them? And it took two pages to say it?

  11. nyelvmark
    Thumb Up

    Nice one. Lewis.

    That should keep the moderator busy.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    1,2 & 10

    Are valid reasons, but the rest is just anti / bashing nonsense.

  13. deains
    Gimp

    Battery an issue? Er, no.

    If I tried to count the number of times I've run out of iPhone battery on my fingers, well, I'd fail to do so, as the current count is zero. It's never happened. I put it on to charge every night, and it runs perfectly well all day.

    If I anticipate needing longer than a day's worth of battery, I bring an external charger pack and plug it in at the opportune moment. This is far more convenient than trying to faff about swapping a battery.

    Also, it's a bit rich to critique battery life, it being an area that Android devices suffer greatly in, so I've been told.

    1. Matthew Anderson

      There is nothing inconvenient about swapping a battery. Hold on a sec.

      1

      2

      3

      DONE

      Carrying a large external charger about with you however is extremely inconvenient when compared with carrying an additional streamlined battery.

      I just came back from hiking 92 miles, I brought along an additional PHAT battery which weighed a few ounces. Far preferable to carrying a large heavy external charger.

      I'll stick with my Nexus One purely for those reasons ta :-)

      1. Steven Gray
        FAIL

        aaaand...

        ...when you got home you had... oh that's right, two batteries to charge sequentially to get back to square one (all while the phone is tethered to the wall, USB, car, whatever). Yep, I can see how that can work... not... and oh yeah, been there, bought two T-shirts...

        1. BoldMan
          Devil

          Desperate to find fualt much?

        2. Daniel B.
          Boffin

          @Steven Gray

          ""...when you got home you had... oh that's right, two batteries to charge sequentially"

          You seem to have missed the "went out hiking 92 miles" part. I think there's no way he was going to be able to charge his phone at all, given the lack of power outlets during said 92-mile hike.

          I remember having two batteries for my Fujitsu Lifebook 280Dx; thanks to this, I was able to cope with a long flight running on both batteries. :)

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Hiking, I just used a solar charger

            For my iPhone while I walked the trailwalker Oxfam 100KM course, no heavy extra battery, no "heavy" external charger "simples"

          2. nyelvmark
            Stop

            ...given the lack of power outlets during said 92-mile hike,,,

            A 92-mile hike without visiting a single pub?

            Inconceivable.

        3. Craigness

          You can charge an android phone from all those places too. How is that even an issue? The issue for me is that I can use a cheap-as-chips generic usb cable to charge my phone whereas the faboys have to use a specific (and more expensive) connector.

          1. -hh
            FAIL

            "Expensive" Cable? Really?

            The "expensive cable" excuse... was dead even before the first iPhone shipped back in 2007.

            Presently, your "expensive" cable costs just over $2 (less than £2), including free shipping in the USA...and of course it isn't even a whopping $2, since the USB cable you want to use wasn't free anyway.

            Nevertheless, considering that the typical smartphone service contract (at least in the USA) runs roughly $2000 across its 2 year term, to whine about a mere $2 for a spare cable is to foolishly ignore 99.9% of your lifecycle costs.

            Congratulations, you've earned the "EPIC FAIL" icon.

            -hh

            1. Craigness
              FAIL

              "More" ignorance? Really

              I stated before that the iphone cable is more expensive. You think that's a fail.

              Google product search finds a load of them at similar prices, around £15.

              http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MA591G/B?afid=p223|GBUK&cid=AOS-EMEA-SHOP-GoogleBase-UK

              You can get a cable for a proper phone for £1.95 delivered. That's less expensive. in fact, in the list of iphone cable prices, it's a rounding error.

              http://www.kenable.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4939

              Unlike iphone owners, I didn't ignore lifecycle costs. By not getting an iphone I cut my 2-year cost down to £720 (about $1100) (I have lots of minutes and data) without losing any functionality (but gaining some). So I've already cut nearly 50% from the lifecycle cost, even before I get spare cables for the car and office. I can get an extra 16GB for less than $100 too.

              Congratulations, you managed "fail squared".

              1. -hh
                Stop

                iPhone Cable: £0.99 at Amazon UK ... stop whining and save £14!

                @craigness

                You can protest about finding expense sources all you want, but Amazon UK has your £15 cable for sale for but a mere £1:

                http://www.amazon.co.uk/Connector-Cable-iPods-iPhones-iPads/dp/B00290PUXQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317919109&sr=8-1

                I can't explain why you were unable to find it in your Google searches...that's a question for you to ask yourself.

                -hh

                PS: I don't have an iPhone either ... but my reasons are not lame ones built on false pretenses.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        @matthew anderson

        "Far preferable to carrying a large heavy external charger."

        you haven't seen an iphone charger have you?

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          External charger

          A large heavy external charger means one of those devices that consists of a large battery which you can use to charge your phone. Not the mains charger. Far too often it is impossible to use a mains charger for a lengthy period of time. Being able to change battery is a wholly reasonably way to cope with this.

          Not allowing you to change the battery is all about forcing early obsolescence. On most modern electrical devices the battery is the first thing to give out. Not allowing you to change it is used by Apple to tempt you to buying the next shiny thing.

          1. AdamWill

            well

            except that most external batteries aren't 'large and heavy' at all and have the advantage of being able to charge multiple devices.

            I'd say the point is technically true but of little practical consequence as, at least AFAICS, a well-designed external battery is a better choice than a second internal battery in most cases even if you have the choice of the latter. That's what I find, anyway - I have an N900 but I bought an external battery, not a second internal one.

        2. Matthew Anderson

          We are talking about external chargers not mains chargers, the type that hold batteries in and are rechargeable and heavy. They are good for charging phones, cameras, ipads etc with many other uses too of course and different ones for different specifications.

          Very useful but they add weight that is not needed if you are weight conscious. With the iPhone there is little choice, with an Android (all models as far as I know) there is choice.

          It's nice having the choice.

        3. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          This isn't rocket science

          Just buy two fracking iPhones

          1. Bob. Hitchen

            Or don't use a smartphone use a cheap and cheerful phone instead - battery lasts ages.

      3. deains
        Go

        Re: *

        "There is nothing inconvenient about swapping a battery."

        Steps to swap a battery:

        1. Power off phone

        2. Take old battery out

        3. Swap new battery in

        4. Power on phone

        Steps to plug in external battery:

        1. Plug in external battery

        Yeah, clearly I'm doing the wrong thing here. Shucks.

        "..when you got home you had... oh that's right, two batteries to charge sequentially to get back to square one"

        In parallel, actually. And having two phone batteries would land you in the exact same situation, so no gain there.

        "Desperate to find fualt much?"

        I find fault with crap information, yeah. Agree with a few of the other points in the article though!

        1. katx5h

          Finding fault is easy with your spelling being the first. But what if you can't plug in an external battery (which needs to be recharged too! and takes longer to boot) or if you don't have the space to carry one. A simple extra battery goes a long way and is easily charged in the cradle that came with my phone (FOR FREE).

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Missed a few steps with that external battery.

          2. Attempt to put phone/battery glob in shirt pocket.

          3. Change shirts for one with a larger pocket.

          4. Attempt to put into shirt pocket.

          after a short while

          5. Return home to change shirt again.

          6. Throw away shirt with ripped pocket.

          7. Go buy man-purse.

      4. Sigfried
        Meh

        Android batteries, no wonder you need a spare

        I support a site with a mix of Samsung Galaxies and iPhones, and there's no contest on batteries, none at all. The Samsungs struggle to last the day unless you use them strictly as a phone and limit browsing, email etc. The iPhones, not only far easier to connect and link to the back end email server (and less trouble once linked), and the batteries last all day under almost any usage, two days easy if you're frugal.

        So I can see why you had to take spare batteries for your droid, I'd take my iPhone, and I'd be confident that it would last if used carefully.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Pure BS

          If you take the tethering (as in power cable) iPhone users out of the mix, they are just as dead by 4PM as the Samsungs, the Sonys, the LGs. The only exception are the HTCs because they ran out between noon and 1PM. 1650 users on this site so my N is large enough to be valid.

      5. Juillen 1
        Holmes

        92 mile hike...

        Well, on a long trek, I turn the phone OFF. If someone wants to talk to me, they can leave a message on the voicemail, or drop a text.

        When I'm feeling like a bit of communication, I'll turn it ON for a few minutes to see if I've got signal, and if so, if I've got messages.

        I've gone two weeks with that strategy, got all the messages I absolutely needed, and made all the calls/texts I needed.

        It's called 'thinking'. Yes, having a replaceable battery is 'nice', but a bit of forethought about what you need will see you through better than extra hardware.

        1. Burch
          FAIL

          Re:on a long trek, I turn the phone OFF

          Great. Just don't use your phone, that'll save the battery.

    2. James Hughes 1

      Well, some explanation why being a developer and having an changeable battery are mutually exclusive would be nice - I can't see the link myself.

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