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Microsoft is claiming a CRM executive who defected to Salesforce.com took hundreds sensitive documents to its cloudy competitor. The company has filed legal documents saying former Dynamics CRM general manager Matt Miszewski left Microsoft with a "trove of materials" on his PC. The "trove" amounted to 25,000 pages of …

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  1. alwarming
    Paris Hilton

    600MB ?

    That should be about 6 marketing PPTs, innit ?

    Paris, coz her stolen tape was about the same.

  2. dssf

    I am ROTMFFLMMFAO...

    ""work threatens it with "immediate and substantial injury"."

    I can't HELP but laugh my ASS off, in light of all the other companies that met their fates at the hands of ms over the past 25 years, often dying from ms vaporware and false-start tactics...

  3. JaitcH
    Alert

    "included documents Miszewski had helped write on ... strategy and tactics for cloud based CRM"

    Unless MS is proposing a lobotomy it is extremely hard to delete a thought process from someone's brain.

    If their strategy is so wonderful they should have done a Jobs on the thing and filed numerous, if weak, patents.

    If you can't look after your staff, they will always gravitate/percolate to something better.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      nope

      think you will find that any work you do in most companies as well as any work you may come in to contact with is the property of that company and can not be taken else where.

      Its happen several times in the past and MS has every right to stop this guy doing what his doing.

      its not a case of copying an idea to another company his taken physical work, although taking an idea is probably also in breach of contract

    2. sab0tage
      WTF?

      Garden leave?

      There's a difference between thought processes and theft of documents. Normally in these sorts of situations Miszewski would have been put on gardening leave or it be stipulated in his contract that if he were to leave he would not be able to work for a competitor for a 12/18 months, so the competitive advantage is removed.

      I would be very surprised if he didn't violate that agreement in some way.

  4. Tom 35 Silver badge

    sensitive documents

    Like what? How much they have spent trying to get companies to use Dynamics?

  5. Anonymous Coward
    WTF?

    What could Salesforce learn from Microsoft about CRM?

    Other than a whole hell of a lot of experience on how not to do it?

    C'mon, that's like Colonel Saunders complaining that Heston Blumenthal stole his secret blend of eleven herbs and spices...

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    injunction

    So MS say theres a problem and call on the court to stop him working, then MS claims fail to materialise and they have wrongly prevented this guy from earning a living and he counter sues for loss of earnings...

    MS loves to keep the lawyers in bread and honey eh!

  7. alien anthropologist
    FAIL

    The title is required, and must contain letters and/or digits.

    Fail Microsoft.

    SOP for employees at that level is 2 to 3 months notice period. When termination of employment is received, that employee's access to the office building is immediately revoked (I have seen them being escorted out of the building within minutes of HR receiving the termination letter). All network accounts of the employee are locked. Allowed into the building once only with a security or IT staff member to clear their desk of personal belongings.

    The remainder of the notice period is paid leave - taking the employee out of the loop. And as part of the terms of employment, the employee is not allowed so much as saying "hello" to any of the corporate clients.

    Damage that can be caused by that employee going to work for a competitor can be very effectively contained.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Or...

      Or maybe he took the documents, then quit?

      1. alien anthropologist
        Grenade

        Or..

        > Or maybe he took the documents, then quit?

        In such a case the guys wearing suits are unleashed. And not only on ex-employee, but also on company that employed him.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    An MS exec lied about something? How's that news?

    Oh, you mean to another bigger MS Exec. Big mistake. Never cross The Godfather.

  9. Tom 13

    With appologies to Hamlet, there's something rotten in Redmond.

    None of this adds up. Other posters here are right: corporations have policies (some of which OUGHT to be illegal but aren't) to protect their secrets. AA noted the internal procedures and sab0tage got the contract arrangements right. If this guy had access to truly sensitive information, those policies should have been in place. If he got info past those practices they aren't real practices. And yes, I know the sales guy usually pilfers the customer contact list when he goes. If the company being deserted is worth its salt, it won't make a difference.

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