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A primary school teacher has had her knuckles rapped after accidentally exposing her 10-year-old pupils to a pornographic video. According to the Sun, the unnamed schoolmarm took her own VCR into St Helen's Church of England School in Abbotsham, Devon, intending to show the young 'uns an "educational programme". The tape she' …

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Unbelievable!

I didn't think anyone still used VCRs.

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Education, education, education

This is a school we're talking about. It takes 10 years before they're even aware of a technology, and another 10 before their regular suppliers start providing it (at prices from 10 years earlier).

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Crap

My son's primary school don't have or use VCRs. Schools don't these days, even a DVD player is old hat. Anything they watch in class is run on one of the classroom PCs.

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urm

It's Devon we're talking about it here - of course they still use VCRs.

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I'm shocked too...

that people still use VCRs :-o

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I'd be shocked and disgusted too

VHS? Euw.

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Some more irony, maybe

What I find slightly amusing is that Betamax got canned in favour of the lower quality VHS because the porn industry endorsed Betamax.

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Wrong....

..the porn industry backed VHS!

And online streaming, online payments, micropayments.

Where Porn goes, the rest follow..

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@ Some more irony . .

I think you meant to say that the porn industry endorsed VHS. AFAIK the porn industry was forced into that position (Ooer, missus (TM)) by Sony refusing to license their 'product' on Betamax.

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wrong way round

Betamax (Sony) refused to supply porn industry so that gave the kick that made VHS the standard, despite being more rubbish.

Hence Porn inductry contributing heavily to DVD spec.

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Other way 'round

I understood the popularity of VHS was down to the easy availability of pr0n in that format, whereas Sony was a bit po-faced about what Betamax could be used for.

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@JP Strauss - even more ironic

Is that you've got the urban myth the wrong way around, and that it was Sony that banned porn from Betamax. Regardless, it's a bollox theory as grumble-flicks were available on both formats. Not to mention that porn doesn't have the market influence that people like to think it does.

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The myth is the other way around...

Supposedly Sony wouldn't allow Porn on Betamax, so VHS took off, not the "porn industry endorsed Betamax".

And there doesn't seem to be any proof anyhow, more likely VHS took of because of the fact that Betamax tapes were 60 minutes long, VHS tapes were 180 minutes long and quality isn't an issue for most people - ref. the number of people who watch over-processed SD TV on poorly adjusted HD LCD sets.

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Real reason ?

In the social history type classes I had to take as part of my electronics course in college, I was taught that the reason VHS overcame Betamax, at least in the UK, was due to the hardware rental market.

The theory was explained to me as, in the late 70s and early 80s, when home VCRs were coming onto the market, a significant proportion of UK households were already renting TVs rather than buying them. The rental market went with VHS, I was either not told or don't remember why this was, whether Sony didn't want to go rental or Matushita gave the better deal I am not sure. Anyway, those renting TVs who also wanted a VCR would rent it as well, the fact that they cost near a grand to buy at the time also meant some who had bought a TV would also just rent a VCR. Those who did buy a VCR would then get the same type as those who rented so that they could exchange tapes, as the initially larger rental market was VHS, so the purchase market followed.

Now this could all be a load of BS, there was marketing stuff in the class as well so not impossible, however the theory is at least as probable as the pr0n theory.

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Well...

"...and quality isn't an issue for most people - ref. the number of people who watch over-processed SD TV on poorly adjusted HD LCD sets."

They say it makes you go blind...

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Not just porn

It wasn't just porn. Sony expected all publishers to pay a licence fee, there was no similar fee on VHS so everybody went for VHS. The reasoning was pretty simple people would have only one player, if VHS tapes were cheaper to produce than betamax then people would buy VHS.

This is always the case with proprietory tech. Think about PC vs. MAC

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Think about PC vs. Mac.

So right, and so wrong. Mac during the 90s? You're dead bang on rights! Mac during the aughties? *bzzzzrt*

Jobs figured out one brilliant thing: if you are going to go proprietary, then you have to make it a "lifestyle brand." Apple are the Gucci of computers. Apple in the electronics industry, like Gucci in the fashion industry have nothing going for them other than

a) they have become a brand name that people can use to be snobish to others and

b) they produce a consistent quality of product.

Neither are the best product in their industry, nor are they the worst. They are largely consistent - which matters a great deal to some - but far more importantly they are a "name." They are that brand of jeans you war so you can make fun of other people who don't wear that same brand of jeans. They are the Lexus you drive so you can mock the guy with the Camry. Once Apple cottoned onto that idea, “proprietary” went from being a negative thing to “bloody brilliant.”

The only way to sell proprietary to consumers is to appeal to their vanity. It worked like a charm, and Apple was reborn. Thus whilst your analogy of Apple being the Beta to generic IT’s VHS holds true for the 90s…it really doesn’t work for the past decade or so. For that reason I cannot accept that "this is always the case with proprietary tech."

I propose then a modification to your statement:

"This is always the case with /improperly marketed/ proprietary tech."

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No, the real reason was that VHS incorporated the orginal DRM

and Betamax didn't. So the Hollywood studios would sell their wares on VHS, but not Beta. I still recall using to a rented beta machine to copy VHS to Beta and then back to VHS.

Also rented porn on Beta when it was the only thing available.

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Actually, both wrong.

JVC (inventor of VHS) (Victor Company Of Japan) threw licenses around like confetti, everyone could build one.

Sony, inventors of the superior betamax, wouldnt allow anyone else to make betamax gear.

Thats why VHS suceeded and beta failed (although its still used today!).

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Actually it was a matter of size

VHS tapes were longer than Beta's so nothing at all to do with porn!

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Ahem

"The "stunned class ... stared open-mouthed at the screen as they watched porn stars engage in an explicit act", the Mail fictionalised".

There, fixed it for you.

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Imitation

Funny, really, as I'm sure at least half of the participants in the film were open-mouthed for part of the performance..

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Clearly the teacher was a Daily Mail reporter

Able to type down the reaction of her charges while they were at least quiet for a while :)

I suppose this sort of thing keeps the majority of the public happy and behaved. Would love to know more about what video.....

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Still wrong...

"The "stunned class ... stared open-mouthed at the screen as they watched porn stars engage in an explicit act", the Mail fapped".

That's nailed it...

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Really?

People are still using videos? One has to wonder if they were using a big old Ferguson TV with folding doors as well.

As far as the content goes, I think the kids were probably less affected than the tabloids' mock outrage makes out. Either they didn't understand what was happening or they did and didn't understand what all the fuss was about. Any 10 year who got offended needs a stern talking to. It's just as well the Sun doesn't feature pictures of topless women where anyone could find them. Oh.

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Fully agree

I would also add one more sentence "Parents, whose 10 year old kids were offended needs a stern talking to. And possibly someone from Social Services taking a look at them once in a while." Because these can´t be good parents and they clearly neglect their parental duty to educate their offspring.

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Pathetic

Lets face it, most kids will have witnessed some brief `live action` at some point in their young lives.

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Well...

What about a kiss, boy? We don't go galloping for the clitoris!

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Indeed

there are many options before we STAMPEDE towards the clitoris

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And where's that?

Or has sex ed improved in recent years so that boys/men know where to look?

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Re: And where's that?

Well in my garden it's climbing up the fence next to the shed......

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Re: and where's that?

Sex ed? Nah. We all know the education system's worthless! The location of the clitoris is discovered during on-the-job training!

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Was it intentional ?

By the looks of it not. It was quickly switched off, the teacher apologised for the mistake - end of story.

Have any of the kids never walked into their parents' bedroom late at night without knocking ?

I am getting increasingly annoyed at those who hold others to much higher standards than they can achieve themselves, then when something goes wrong - loudly castigate them. We all make mistakes. The correct response is to apoligise and take action to avoid a repetition. Life is too short.

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Why would the teacher need to use her own VCR? Doesn't the school have the necessary equipment?

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According to the Daily Fail

"The teacher hurriedly shut down the machine - which she brought in after the school’s own device had broken down - but the horrified youngsters had already seen the adult content."

So the moral of the story is don't try to be useful - sit on your ass, do nothing and don't tell anyone when anything goes wrong.

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Dear Parents

Shit. Happens.

That is all. Unfortunate that her generous behaviour in using her own kit to help the kids led to this.

(I wasn't much older than this when my catholic school showed us pictures of aborted foetusss (foetiii??) but I'm thats much more wholesome.

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No such luck in my school

We got claptrap about 'Stranger Danger' and other nonsense - why couldn't we have this?!

I bet the teacher gets some attention from her male colleagues now...

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"The "stunned class ... stared open-mouthed at the screen..."

Then, went home and fired up uTorrent to see the happy ending....

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<insert title here>

> "Then, went home and fired up uTorrent to see the happy ending...."

Happy endings are good.

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In the words of the Reverends wife from the Simpsons ...

Won't somebody think of the children!

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Re: Won't someone think of the children?

Kinky bastards...

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Think of the children

I thought that summoned the banhammer.

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thecaskeis(not)alie

And under UK law is *very* close to an arrestable offense.

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And anyway

I would rather my kids watched a sexual act than all of the violence that is pumped at children regularly.

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Re: and anyway

I'll extend that. I would rather my (hypotherical, potential future) children watched a sexual act than be constantly bombarded by "CONSUME, BUY, SPEND MONEY, CONSUME, BUY, YOU WANT THIS NEW THING, CONSUME, CONSUME, CONSUME" at all hours from all places.

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re:re:and anyway

this ^^

also, one would note that possessing both the knowledge and equipment to successfully procreate is infinitely more valuable to anyone than wanting teh shiny.

IIRC the crap they subjected us to in primary 7 was basically softcore porn with some gross bits about body odour.

that said, if this kind of stuff didn't happen (and wasn't subsequently reported in the daily fail) we wouldn't have quite so much to feel superior about.

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Open mouthed children

'Miss! Why were you watching that - there's a much better scene with dp and bukkake on Youporn' is more probable these days, I suspect.

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Shock horror

Teachers are human beings just like everyone else? No wonder the parents were outraged! Have any of them demanded to see the video in question so they can know what they are outraged about?

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yes, VHS is still in use by many people...

... some of the older films didn't get a digital remake, so the VHS copy is the _only_ copy. Sadly, many children films are on VHS only (plus many "Home videos" are still on VHS).

yes all those can (should) be converted to DVDs before the tape dies, but unless someone is willing to help each parent do that, then they will continue to use the same VHS tapes they used with their firstborn.

(oh, let us not forget that parent and teachers can't convert commercial VHS tapes to DVDs legally.. AFAIK)

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