sure why not
If Apple can patent event driven programming why shouldn't Google patent the onMouseover event
Google has patented a system that displays search results and ads based on where you move your mouse. Mountain View first filed for the patent — dubbed a "system and method for modulating search relevancy using pointer activity monitoring" — in February 2005, and the US patent office rubber-stamped the application earlier this …
If Apple can patent event driven programming why shouldn't Google patent the onMouseover event
hahah bingo! another pathetic patent. Am sure one of these days they will patent you just reading off a screen or even looking at it in a particular way!
It's an algorithm!
"Should Google start taking such behavior, we can assume that somewhere, someone will attempt to game the system. You might call it hover fraud."
You could also assume that various lawsuits would ensue (except, of course, in the UK, where invasion of punters' privacy seems to be not only tolerated, but rather de rigeur...ref. Phorm), and that access to ixquick would explode. (I hope the Dutch have enough servers lying around...)
...but will it be announced that they've done it, with an easy opt out?
Disgusted of Tonbridge Wells
Evidently not, or you would have spelled it correctly.
I'd wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment nevertheless.
Don't bother. You're obviously a complete sucker if you installed it in the first place.
Yes, the onMouseover event will tell them where my pointer is, but it won't tell them where my eyes are. I tend to move the mouse out of the way of what I'm reading and use the scroll wheel to move up and down the page, then I move it to one of the links on the page, one of the form elements, the back button or the address bar as appropriate when I want to go somewhere else or leave a comment.
That's what the web cam is for.
or whether it does. It works like this:
Google: Hey, Mr. Advertiser - we have this cool new thing: if a (l)user's mouse hovers over your link for more than X, we'll serve them up a whole bunch of ads for your product! All for just $1 per ad!
Adverdroid: I just ejaculated in my pantaloons. Where do I sign?
As long as they are gauging a surfer's "interest" by the mouse hovering over a particular link or bit of a search snippet, there is absolutely no reason for them not to set a threshold past which they assume that you're sufficiently interested to automatically open another window.
"Well, our research shows that users who hover over a search result for 'X' amount of time are likely to click on it -- we're just saving them time.
"... and (artificially) increasing your click-through rates. Pay up!"
When I'm bored, or idly reading without 100% interest, I whizz my mouse all over, randomly select/unselect text... drives my mother mad if I'd doing something for her.
But, come on... monitoring where the user moves their pointer? F*** off already.
...try also bouncing one/both knees at same time, and cracking knuckles frequently.
wouldn't be surprised if this is already implemented in some way in Chrome, at least for testing purposes to see if it works, is a viable option etc
That flowchart represents just about every dynamic mouseover menu I've ever coded, literally, line by line. I'm not in the ad business, but it's the same technique.
I can say I had the idea well before google, as I'm sure plenty more have well before me.
It's neither novel nor does it constitute more than a half hour of R&D. What benefit does the world get by granting this patent? Absolutely ridiculous.
"What benefit does the world get ..."
Good one :o)
That is the *best* way to stop them!
I had some issues with pages. Found it was the Google Analytics code that was causing it. Blocked those servers from my browser.
Spell analytics. Spell it again. And again. Now once again why does Internet nanny software that works on regexps block it? It is the Aaaaaaaaa... word...
Google's new motto:
Don't just be evil - patent it!
Do Google phones support cursor hovering?
There is also some useful information obtainable by determining which finger is used to point at a certain advertisement or search result. Index finger = casual/normal use. Pinkie = for more detailed work, smaller ads. Ring finger = dimwit user. Middle finger = Microsoft or political ad.
This will work well for those unfortunate souls with Parkinsons Disease yes?
For a company that does no evil they sure do want to know a lot about me and my web actions...
Maybe they're trying to make sure you're not doing any evil...
Hurrah! Maybe Google will now figure out that in the 10+ years I've been using the internet, I've never, ever, ever clicked on an advert and will finally stop showing them to me!!!
Someone implement this in JS, write it up, and backdate it.
@muckminded - back under your bridge (from a NoScript user)
I think you'll find some sites you have visitied do this too, if it is of interest to them they will collect it.
I noticed an insurance site sent off an ajax call to collect my email address the second I'd finished typing it (it becomes valid = ajax call). So I didn't even need to hit the submit button for them to have my details.
I thought it was a good idea, this is no different - you don't want Google to know what you are doing, run adblock and noscript. If that's too hard turn the computer off.
Interesting that. I remember some discussions with a client a long while ago who wanted to do just that. We came to the conclusion that it might be a bit iffy, privacy/DPA-wise. In clicking a submit button you are consciously sending that data through, can agree to any terms and conditions, etc; but sneakily grabbing the email before I have necessarily decided I definitely want to send it doesn't seem right...
I'm sure some laywer could formulate a "in viewing this website you are agreeing to our terms which allow us to do what we want" type thing, but we weren't comfortable with it.
cos there's NO pointer to hover with, you just tap on the screen surface
It's rude to point.
See: I have a scroll wheel on my mouse. I tend to put the mouse well to the right of the window, away from the text I'm reading, so I can SCROLL with it without obscuring the text I'm reading.
Bet I'm not the only one.
All that said, once you think of something obvious, you might as well patent it even if your proposed implementation is useless; just so you stop anybody else doing anything genuinely useful with it.
Way to go USPTO. ....Hey that rhymes. Maybe we should put it on a shirt?
Where your mouse is located is not relevant.
Google does not do "if your mouse is at X,Y we will display Z. They chuck raw data into a big number cruncher and from there on it is only a matter of time until it will identify patterns that predicate you doing something of interest to their "customers" (they use Bayes stats so using the word "correlate" is not correct here).
Then you will be fed an offer you supposedly cannot refuse by one of their customers. Voila. Job done. Breath in, generate revenue, breath out, generate revenue yet again.
Not sure everyone posting comments has understood what Google are talking about, it's nothing to do with automatically sending you to a site just by hovering the mouse, not is it like a JS dropdown menu.
It's just about them collecting another stat on their search results (and will probably apply this to analytics too)
My interpretation of this is they'll have an area around each link/search result, when you move your mouse into one of these areas it'll start a timer, when your mouse has been there for a certain minimum period it'll send a tracking message, via ajax probably, to Google. I think I could probably code this in 10 minutes so i'm sure someone somewhere has prior art on this one?!
"Not sure everyone posting comments has understood what Google are talking about,"
I don't think you understand what everyone's posting about. :) The thing is that many people put the mouse where they're not looking so that it doesn't get in the way. In my case that would be on the far left, or right, or white space, or scroll bar. Where does the "area around each link" come into it?
Sorry, I was only really talking about a handful of comments that seemed to misunderstand the implementation.
By the sounds of it, they will only be collecting data about certain zones on a page, I assume those zones will be links in search results and the like, so people like you and me who would rather move the mouse pointer out of the way while we read/scroll through search results will probably not give them much in the way of tracking data anyway.
Why would you assume anything of the sort? There is no reason to beleive that Google will limit itself to any particular region of the screen. After all, if Google is able to determine that we move our mouses to the left/top/bottom/right of the screen in order to read the page we are viewing, then they will likely start putting ads there so that they can trigger those ridiculous expanding ads, thus blocking our view of the information we actually want to obtain with that which we do not.
Actually that's a brilliant idea. I bet we'll be starting to see Google ads in the scrollbar soon.
Now we allow people to patent how we move our mouse in the privacy of our homes. I am surprised they did not tag on forced switch on of your web cam.
Googleplex; the new intelligence agency spannign the world. It kind of puts MI6 to shame really.
This is why I like using Firefox with the No Script add-on which completely disable Google scripts, especially Google-Analytics unless I say it can run.
going to be having some fun with this ;D
In what way are <script>s not client software?
Mouse position isn't nearly accurate enough. The next step is to take over the user's webcam and track their eye movements. Also monitor their expression. Pity there's not yet an easy way to measure their pulse rate etc.
After all, that's what the user is for - to respond to ads. They'll obviously be perfectly happy to not bother about this silly 'privacy' thing as long as they can be monetised.
Unplug your webcam - I already do.
that the only people who hover their mouse over part of the page they read are the same people who have to run their finger over a book as they read, i.e. morons. Google have invented a moron tracking device.
Apple won't be pleased. Wasn't that the purpose of the iPhone?
It's not as if there aren't enough morons out there who could be successfully monetised...
Ahh you mean Soylent Green, yes?
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