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Climate: 'An excuse for tax hikes', scientists 'don't know what they're talking about'

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Re: Again...I prefer to get the opinion of scientists...

Science does not require faith. It proves itself to work time and time again through the effectiveness of the technological miracles it wreaks in plain sight! Plus, its secrets are openly available to anyone who will take the trouble to learn calculus.

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Re: AGW == socialism

Absolutely, if the demand for "cleaner energy" is only generated by government intervention in the free market!

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The Answer

Go with nuclear power so we can increase our energy consumption and become wealthier while cutting our carbon footprint. Then everyone's happy.

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New Star Wars movie plot details leak, violate common sense and laws of physics

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Gravity is a Conservative Force

But since it was the cloud city of Bespin, and not the space city of Bespin, yes, it does seem the hand would have had to fall down. Had it been an orbital base, for the hand to go into an elliptical orbit would just take a little push - and a hyperbolic orbit, sending it out into space, would just take a bigger one. Even in a somewhat downwards direction.

However, notwithstanding the laws of physics, that plot premise sounds immensely shaky.

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Intel teaches Oracle how to become the latest and greatest Xeon Whisperer

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Interesting

Oracle was the company that was sued by HP to get it to continue supporting the Itanium.

Also, Oracle bought Sun; my take on that acquisition is that it was done primarily so that Oracle could get its hands on the Sun SPARC architecture, so that as a database vendor it could compete head-to-head with IBM. This happened just before Intel made the RAS features offered with the Itanium also available on some Xeon x86 chips.

Given all of this, I'm somewhat surprised that Oracle and Intel have this cozy a relationship.

Given that green computing is popular now, the ability to turn off cores just to save power when they're not being used - database systems can have variable loads depending on the business they serve - is relevant in any case. Since IBM does charge by usage on some of its hardware, though, it's definitely not impossible that Oracle is also seeking similar capabilities.

But I don't think one has to worry too much about Oracle using it to gouge customers, since cheap commodity x86 gear is so easily available.

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That stirring LOHAN motto: Anyone know a native Latin speaker?

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Word order?

The one I understood was "Ad astra et ad tavernem". Yes, it doesn't follow the pattern of "Ad astra per aspera", but that's because it means somethig different (and hence it isn't breaking Latin word order) - "To the stars through hope" versus a more anticlimactic "To the stars, and to the pub".

It isn't intended to claim that going to the pub makes a material contribution to getting to the stars.

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What's inside AMD's life-support machine? A big pile o' PlayStation 4s and XBox Ones

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Unique

AMD, by being licensed to make x86 chips, has a unique advantage that other microprocessor makers do not; it can make chips that people want to buy, because they can be used to run Windows. Therefore, this ought to be something close to a license to print money.

Yes, Intel is much bigger, and so competing head-to-head with Intel is difficult, because Intel has the ability to make the best and most powerful CPUs that anyone can make, given the much larger amount of money it has to spend on the most advanced fabs. I'm surprised Intel isn't trying to pick up the loose change lying around by making better PowerPC chips than IBM and better SPARC chips than Oracle... or, at least, I would be if those markets were worth pursuing. As it is, Intel already has the Itanium to keep it busy.

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Hamas hacks Israeli TV sat channel to broadcast pics of Gaza wounded

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Non-violent Resistace

Well, it might be that most Palestinians realize this already, and this is why there are no suicide bombers from the West Bank any more. Although the wall helped. But look at how Coptic Christians have been treated in Egypt: there is an ingrained tendency to look on non-Muslims with contempt, along with other factors, that make it almost inevitable that terrorist groups will find recruits.

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Listen: WORST EVER customer service call – Comcast is 'very embarrassed'

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Famous call

This news item brought to mind the famous case of someone trying to cancel his AOL service, who was at one point, despite being an adult, asked to put his parents on the line.

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Child diagnosed as allergic to iPad

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Canada

Here in Canada, from 1968 (earlier with the nickel) until 2000, most of our coins were made of pure nickel. They're now made of steel, but they're still nickel plated. I'm surprised we don't have a big problem with this sort of thing.

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IBM's $3bn bet on next-gen computers: Carbon nanotubes, neuro chips

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Well

It wouldn't be a bad thing if, when silicon ran out of steam, Intel was left in the lurch, and IBM - chastened by its old antitrust suits - roared back.

It would be inconvenient if Microsoft Windows had to jump from the x86 architecture to, say, the PowerPC, the way the Macintosh jumped twice, from the 680x0 to the PowerPC and then from that to the x86, but Intel's monopoly is a bad thing.

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Russian MP fears US Secret Service cuffed his son for Snowden swap

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Cut and Dried

Obviously this is a legitimate police investigation of credit card fraud. The U.S. does not hold innocent people hostage, and the Russian MP is just deliberately lying through his teeth.

I'm just waiting for the day Putin stands before a court of law in Georgia or the Ukraine on the charge of aggressive war, and is sentenced like Tojo before him. All that will take is sanctions sufficient to get the Russian people to vote him out.

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Tesla trademark spat threatens Musk's China dream

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Re: Typical China... stolen names and cheap knockoff's

But why should he need to? For a company to have a valid trademark in any country, it should be clear that one has to genuinely believe that trademark to be original. If someone else somewhere is using it first, registering a copycat trademark is an attempt at fraud, which is a criminal offence.

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VMware's super-secret MARVIN: It's software-defined war on future IT

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Hardware?

Some of the other articles about Marvin have included speculation that VMware would start selling hardware nodes with VMware software preinstalled - including the new VSAN product - as part of it, since that's what the companies it is seen as competing with are doing.

But it seems unnatural for VMware to get into the hardware business.

There is a way they could get involved with hardware without actually selling any. Maybe they're planning to do an Android Silver.

That would probably also be insane, given that hardware suppliers are their customers, but it's an in-between alternative that I'm surprised has not been noted.

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Confusing

I see that VCE, named as a competitor of VMware along with Simplivity and Nutanix, is actually owned by EMC and VMware, like Pivotal, but also by Cisco and Intel. This is starting to get a little confusing. But I suppose it's a good idea for VMware to have its toe in the converged future.

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We need to talk about SPEAKERS: Sorry, 'audiophiles', only IT will break the sound barrier

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Re: Be careful what you ask for.

Interesting, but was the sound fatiguing because of the high quality of the setup, or could it have simply been fatiguing because the highs were overemphasized (not necessarily by means of frequency response) as part of making the details of the sound audible? Or, conversely, maybe perfect sound is fatiguing, but that can be cured by rolling off the highs a bit, with the result then being an all-round improvement on ordinary hi-fi.

But then, it may be that audiophiles do find their high-end setups fatiguing, because I have seen articles by audiophiles where they talk about music as something special to be treated with respect, followed or preceded by railing against Muzak. So they may well make sure to be well rested before their brief music listening sessions.

In other words, since audiophiles did successfully discover transient intermodulation distortion, for example, the story may be complicated enough so that your experience doesn't totally discredit them.

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Re: Audiophile?

In order to determine whether or not The Register is redefining the term audiophile, I suggest you read some issues of The Absolute Sound or even Stereophile, and then determine if their editorial staff and readership, to whom the term 'audiophile' is generally applied, fit the new definition or not.

This is like asking whether Communists are idealists who believe in equal sharing, or supporters of a murderous political system that rests on slave labor camps. Are you talking about the original dictionary meaning of the word, or what the people called by that name actually are in the real world?

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Manger MSW

I'd never heard of the Manger MSW. I had thought that, say, Magneplanars were the next best thing to an electrostatic speaker like the Quad ESL-63. Now I'll have to go and check it out.

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Re: The ear can't hear square waves.

That may be, but the better a job an audio system can do on square waves, the better it will do on clarinet music, the clarinet being an instrument whose sound is mainly made up of the odd harmonics.

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NSA, GCHQ spies have hurt us more than they know – cloud group

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Security from Whom?

In the case of European companies, their potential legal liability, given European laws about personal information, may make even NSA and GCHQ snooping a concern.

For most companies in the United States, though, that sort of thing is the last of their security concerns, if it even comes up on the radar screen at all; they don't expect the NSA to pass on confidential information to their competitors, or, indeed, to risk disclosing its surveillance by using anything it sees - except for use related to their legitimate mission of defending America from war, espionage, and terrorism.

But data in the cloud is still more obviously potentially vulnerable to attack by hackers, and the computer industry's security record has been poor. So not everything is Snowden's or the NSA's fault.

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Speed of light slower than we thought? Probably not

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It Could Be True...

If it turned out that gamma rays travel through space somewhat more slowly than the speed of light because they sometimes turn into electron-positron pairs, then the speed they had when they weren't in this state, but instead going their fastest... would be the speed of electromagnetic radiation in a vacuum, the ultimate speed limit of the universe.

So Einstein wouldn't be wrong at all if it were discovered that real-world light happens to travel slightly slower than the "speed of light" - especially if this effect were stronger for high-energy gamma rays, and so the limit for really low-energy long radio waves as they approach having no energy at all could still be measured.

After all, when Einstein came along, it wasn't as if Newton was wrong.

So even if this is a valid discovery, it's no threat to the foundations of relativity.

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Remaining Snowden docs will be released to avert 'unspecified US war' – ‪Cryptome‬

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Dismayed

While I felt the U.S. government overreacted to Snowden's initial revelations, some later ones have included information that would tend towards damaging legitimate U.S. intelligence capabilities.

As I believe the U.S. is a democracy and not an aggressor, I find this distressing. This announcement that efforts will be made to cripple the NSA in order to prevent the U.S. from launching a war of aggression next month does not, therefore, strike me as either a good thing or justified. Instead, it seems to me that the cause of freedom is going to be harmed for the sake of paranoid fantasies.

On the other hand, if Cryptome was simply fooled by an NSA plant intended to discredit Snowden, that wouldn't exactly be something I'd have hoped for either.

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Cambridge's tiny superconducting magnet breaks strength record

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Liquid WHAT?

Um, a high-temperature superconductor is one that doesn't need liquid helium. Liquid nitrogen is exactly what one does use to cool down the high-temperature ones.

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HP gets 'Playboy model and the ex-CEO' lawsuit kicked out ... AGAIN

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Didn't Read it Carefully

At first, I thought Mark Hurd was going out with Jodie Foster, which would, of course be further ammunition for HP's defense.

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Aereo has to pay TV show creators? Yes. This isn't rocket science

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I Wonder

"Congress could abolish copyright if enough people wanted it to. They clearly don't."

I wonder what the value of enough would have to be. I don't think the DMCA was brought in by Congress due to grassroots demand from ordinary voters.

I don't think that abolishing copyright would be a good thing, but it seems clear that the record companies and the movie companies pretty much dictate American copyright law at the moment; if copyright were seen in terms of its original purpose, as a voluntary agreement made by society in order to encourage more creation, requests for extending copyright protection would receive a lot more scrutiny and be much less likely to be granted.

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Cryptome pulled OFFLINE due to malware infection: Founder cries foul

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Appropriate

If the malware can't be removed immediately, of course the site must be pulled until it is removed. No chance of infecting people's computers can be tolerated. Some complaint about how long it took might have made sense, but this reaction just makes the guy look like a loose cannon.

And, of course, I suppose the NSA would love to infect the computers of the people who visit Cryptome...

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Warrantless snooping on American man was LEGAL in terrorism case, rules US judge

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Re: Only a lawyer

We can't expect the American courts to take the view that someone attempting to blow up ordinary American citizens is a justified freedom fighter instead of a criminal. This would be the case even if that were true. And there were times in the past - such as when Negro slavery was in effect - when it was true.

However, given the history of the Middle East - how the state of Israel came into existence because of violence against Jews, how its borders expanded each time as a result of attempts to drive it into the sea, how living under Muslim rule would likely have put them in the same situation as the Coptic Christians suffer under in Egypt - the notion that the current crop of terrorists has a legitimate cause seems to me laughable. Thus, I am unaffected by accusations of believing I have the "One True Worldview".

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Re: Well he would still be roaming the streets in the UK

Entrapment is strictly forbidden in the U.S. as well. However, the definition of entrapment is such that sting operations are permitted as long as the evidence establishes the staged crime was not something the victim was pressured into by the police, but instead something he could well have done himself by his own choosing if real criminals had instead approached him the same way.

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Re: Now THAT is what surveillance is for

It's certainly true that innocent people accused of terrorism have the right to a lawyer.

So we have to let actual terrorists have lawyers too, since one can't tell which is which without a fair trial.

However, the attempt to make this accused a free man on a technicality, when he indeed would have tried to blow up innocent people if given the opportunity, is exactly the sort of thing that leads to the understandable conclusion that something like Guantanamo is the only way to provide Americans with a reasonable level of security from terrorism.

Limiting people's Constitutional rights by common sense would not create a dictatorship, but apparently it would be very difficult to achieve.

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Oracle's IP lawsuit foe: We'll fight SAP tooth and nail in Europe

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License Terms?

I know that the license terms for Windows don't allow me to disassemble it and then write patches that, say, add on the improvements Windows 7 made in copying multiple files and handling duplicate names to Windows XP.

So patching old versions of Oracle so that they're as good as the current version sounds like it would violate the licensing of Oracle if its license terms were anything like those of most software products out there. If Oracle's license terms were more generous to allow for the mission-critical nature of the software, and its use by responsible businesses, then this sort of thing may, at least, get them tweaked.

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You're inventing the wrong sort of tech for bad people who want to buy it. Stop it at once

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Value

Yes, other people can't decide that the Yo app doesn't have value to the people who bought it.

However, clean water and adequate food have value to the people who don't have them. I'm quite confident that I'm not making a mistaken judgment in saying that.

What the problem is, of course, is that those people don't have the money to pay for those things. And even if it is preferable that they have the means to earn the money they need, clearly redistribution of some sort is needed to start the change happening at a faster pace than it is currently happening without interference.

Why should the free market be immune to criticism when it fails to deliver a desired result? The fact that the legitimate criticism is that it's a screwdriver and not a hammer, that is, that it's the wrong tool for the job rather than a tool that needs to be improved to do what it's supposed to do better, doesn't mean that all criticism is unfair.

Unless, of course, if one believes that feeding the hungry - and getting results quicker than current rates of charitable donation are doing - and so on are not legitimate goals.

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Cisco open-sources experimental cipher

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Unfortunately

This seems to be a very inefficient cipher. It needs seven rounds to be secure, but each round includes an AES encryption as the f-function. A stream cipher using AES would be a simpler way to secure data of arbitrary length - but just XORing stream cipher output to the data is lacking in security in some ways that this addresses. However, there are other ways to improve the combiner that have less overhead, so I can't be optimistic that this will get widespread adoption.

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Sky-scraping boffins mash amateur astronomers into huge virtual telescope

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Precedent

While this technique, of necessity, can't combine the amateur telescopes into a super-telescope with the radius of the Earth for resolution - that would require them all looking at the sky at the same time, and being linked via interferometry - it is similar to the effective technique used by amateur astronomers to get rid of atmospheric blur, and get pictures of Jupiter and other planets that rival ones taken by the Hubble.

So the pictures will have better contrast, and they will look like they were taken by a telescope in space - but their resolution will still be limited by the sizes of the mirrors on the amateur telescopes they were taken with.

Well, sort of. If Intel can do photolithography of 22 nm features with light having a 195 nm wavelength, a little finagling is possible.

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Android to drop Dalvik VM for high-performance ART in next version

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Hopefully

they'll have a compatible way of labelling Android apps to the effect that "I work with version 1.x of ART or above; otherwise, run me with Dalvik".

Then the change would be invisible; stuff would just run faster in some cases.

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AMD details aggressive power-efficiency goal: 25X boost by 2020

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Re: Maybe answering the wrong question

You can't control what people do with computers. You can't control what software they use to do it. All you can do is make better computers than the other guy, so that people will buy your computers and your company will make money. So AMD has the right priorities.

We, who buy the really fast and/or energy-efficient computers from them are responsible for getting as much useful work out of them as possible. If anyone but ourselves should be held accountable, look at Microsoft, not AMD or even Intel.

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US spanks phone-jamming vendor with $34.9 MEEELLION fine

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Safety Cuts Both Ways

Unfortunately, prisons aren't allowed to jam cell phones. And this led to a crime kingpin in prison being able to arrange the murder of a police informant from his cell. So these restrictions need to be rethought.

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Canada to Google: You can't have your borderless cake and eat it too

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Perplexing

If the U.S. company Datalink Technologies Gateways is, in fact, using stolen technology, why haven't U.S. courts stopped it from manufacturing the items in question? Surely this is the more appropriate remedy. And, in any case, even if the U.S. courts were biased in favor of a home company, wouldn't it be possible to obtain a judgment with the result that the products in question would be stopped at the border by Canada Customs?

If the products are legal in the United States, then they could be sold among other products by legitimate resellers that also sell other products from other manufacturers. If those retailers are prevented from appearing in Canadian Google search results, litigation under NAFTA is a real possibility.

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Apple SOLDERS memory into new 'budget' iMac

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Fat Mac

Well, it's not as if that kind of shenanigan is anything new for Apple; they also prevented people from upgrading the initial Mac from 128 K to 512 K just by buying memory chips and installing them.

Is it any wonder that I find it difficult to give fair consideration to Apple products as an option? Its long history of this kind of behavior has left me with a less-than-positive attitude towards them.

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Intel reveals its FrankenChip ARM killer: one FPGA and one Xeon IN ONE SOCKET

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Re: What We Really Need

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I'm aware that existing FPGAs can use fusible links or fast memory cells to control their connections - that both choices already exist. So I was asking for the right choice, not a new invention.

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What We Really Need

I'm hoping that Intel makes a prettier version of this, and integrates it more closely with the microprocessor logic, so that in addition to using it to add new functionality to the x86 chip, one could also use it instead to, say, decode an alternative ISA into micro-ops.

So the chip could be faster than Hercules, it could save Unisys from agonizing over the fate of ClearPath Dorado, and so on and so forth.

Actually, since alternative architectures might include some functionality that the x86 architecture still doesn't offer, it would be nice if the chip had enough goodness to offer both.

Oh, and the FPGA should not depend on fusible links, but should instead be based on RAM, with saving and restoring it being relatively convenient... so that operating systems could support allowing multiple applications, all running concurrently, to each reprogram the FPGA in its own way. With some restrictions, such as apply to the GPU on one's video card, to acknowledge the fact that it can't be saved and restored as fast as the registers.

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Irish court peels off gloves, hands Facebook PROBE request to ECJ

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One Problem

Aren't all these allegations by Snowden just uncorroborated hearsay anyways? As far as we know, they could have been created in Photoshop! Well, except for what the White House has subsequently admitted to, in efforts to give a reason to want to put its hands on him...

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Chap builds rotary dial mobile phone

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Obvious Application

This is the missing technological piece required to make the shoe phone a reality!

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UK govt preps World War 2 energy rationing to keep the lights on

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Obvious Solution

Build enough nuclear power plants so that their output is in excess of the maximum peak load consumption in the foreseeable future. That way, you can shut down all the fossil-fuel fired power plants.

The excess power in off-peak hours can be used to make useful items like aluminum and heavy water, just as is done in areas with abundant hydroelectricity.

While this might be a tad expensive, it's probably still cheaper than solar and wind power. And it is carbon-free.

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HP starts a memristor-based space program to launch ... THE MACHINE

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Wishing Them Well

I certainly do hope that HP does manage to make the memristor manufacturable.

Some technologies once considered exciting have disappeared because they were inherently not suited to being manufactured on monolithic integrated circuits. The tunnel diode is an example of that; one can make lots of discrete tunnel diodes, and pick the good ones, but the odds of all the tunnel diodes on a chip being good are basically zero, so even though it was touted as a way to make really fast computers, no microprocessor ever used them.

Discrete memristors, though, would be just a toy, not competitive with conventional CMOS at all.

At HP, they should realize that saying that failure is not an option doesn't make it so, though. Nobody beat the obstacles to making tunnel diodes repeatedly on a chip. It could be there's no guarantee that the same doesn't apply to the memristor - or, it could be that HP knows what the technical challenges remaining are, and is in a position to beat them.

I hope they'll succeed, and even more, I hope they haven't let wishful thinking take over.

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MIGHTY SOLAR FLARES fail to DESTROY CIVILISATION. Yes!

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Linear Wins

According to a NASA web site, the different letters that classify solar flares, A, B, C, M, and X, follow an exponential scale, with each letter being 10 times as intense as the one before. Within each letter, there are numbers that go from 1 to 9.

If each number was 2x as intense than the one before, then the difference between letters should be a factor of 1024, not a factor of 10. So, although I thought that 2x was more likely to be true, it seems the people saying the scale is instead merely linear are more likely to be right.

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Coping with an X40

Whether the X scale is exponential or linear seems to be a hot topic of discussion here. But the focus should be on what, if anything, can be done to ensure that civilization survives an X40 solar flare.

Given that the primary danger appears to be the currents induced in long wires, it sounds as though the first step would be to properly isolate all the very long wires that are part of the power grid.

That might be very difficult to achieve. And having vacuum tube (thermionic valve) based backup systems for important electronic services would be a proposal sure to invite derision.

How many IBM 704 computers would it take to substitute for one smartphone? But that isn't the question; instead the idea is to have some very limited computing capacity for important services that can't be handled by pencil and paper. So the most critical government offices would save their most vital data on the equivalent of an IBM 355 disk drive usable by the equivalent of an IBM 650 in the event of disaster.

And companies like Intel and TSMC would need to have contingency plans too for rebuilding civilization and selling people computers all over again. Just keeping a few old computers wrapped in tinfoil might be better than trying to keep museum pieces in operation...

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World first: ANIMATED GIF of Mercurian SUN ZOOM from MARS

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Arthur C. Clarke

And, of course, Arthur C. Clarke wrote a famous story, Transit of Earth, of an astronaut stranded on Mars due to a mission to observe from Mars a transit of the Earth across the Sun.

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Redmond is patching Windows 8 but NOT Windows 7, say security bods

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Re: It's just what changed from the 7 SDK to the 8 SDK.

I think I understand this now, and I have to admit that indeed this is very different from patching an error in the operating system. This is an improvement to Windows, not a correction, that makes it easier for application writers to avoid vulnerabilities in their applications. Not porting this kind of thing back to earlier versions is indeed entirely legitimate.

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It's quite true that nobody would have wanted MS to turn XP into Vista. A free upgrade from Vista to 7, however, would have been widely accepted.

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It's pretty easy to replace the old version of Linux with a new version. Since Microsoft charges quite a bit for operating system upgrades, and, furthermore, newer versions of their operating systems do not have the same hardware requirements as older versions (I ran Windows 3.1 under DOS without problems on a 386 with 2 Megabytes of RAM; can I upgrade to Windows 8?) failure to correct mistakes they made in the software when they released it which allow unauthorized misuse of people's computers is a problem.

Windows XP shouldn't have had any mistakes in it, any possible exploits, and since it did, that was Microsoft's fault, therefore Microsoft should have to fix them. Until Microsoft finally gets it right.

Unlike putting safety features in cars, after all, no physical parts that are made of metal that costs money are involved. They can just write the patches once, although I have to admit there's no easy way for Microsoft to let someone else bear the expense of hosting them, given the Windows Update mechanism.

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