* Posts by Dazed and Confused

1726 posts • joined 12 Sep 2007

EU mulls €3bn fine for Google

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Tit for Tat

So how long before some US court imposes a comparable fine on some EU based company just for balance here. Anyone want to bet on a trade war?

Where's the pop corn, I think the politics of this one could get interesting, Still might be a nice change to watch the diplomats get rich instead of the lawyers.

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'Apple ate my music!' Streaming jukebox wipes 122GB – including muso's original tracks

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Re: A: he is not a real musician

> And so what if your music ends up in their cloud

I think you'll find it isn't, you know. That's what the whole story is about.

If it was still in their cloud he wouldn't have a problem.

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Ex-HP boss Carly Fiorina sacked one week into new job

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Re: Good news !

Yes, it would have been preferable to have a nut-free choice, as lots of people have allergies and such, but one takes what one can get.

Does remind me of the HHGttG

"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"

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Greenpeace leaks TTIP texts, reveals strained negotiations

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Playing devil's advocate here

American telcos and Internet firms believe the EU is crimping their ability to compete on a level playing field, while on the other side, Europeans believe America wants to dismantle their privacy protections.

But

In last week's article where so EU joker was saying we should all login to the Internet with our state issued ID cards there was the comment

The European Commission has noticed that only four per cent of the most used internet platforms come from the EU. And it’s noticed some dangers to competition from dominant platforms, too:

Perhaps there is a correlation here. Perhaps very few popular Internet sites are of EU origin because the legal framework here leads people to think "We can't do that, it might be illegal somewhere" whilst the US mind set leads to an approach of "Hey, lets just try it and see what happens"

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Thunderbird is GO: Mozilla prepares to jettison mail client

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Re: Er... beg to differ

> With such a loving parent, it is better for it to be taken by social services and adopted.

If the latest update to Thunderbird is anything to go by then it needs to be taken into protective custody PDQ.

It's driving me nuts!

Oh yes, and I do run a real business using Thunderbird. It happily copes with the 70K odd messages in my in-tray and instantly finds things for me so I've given up filing everything away into different folders. It runs cross platform, so I can use the same config files on my Linux and Windows PCs. The death of Thunderbird would be a huge blow.

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OneDrive shrinks

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Re: opt out

Eeerrrrr any pointers to this opt out of being down graded would be gratefully received.

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Ubuntu 16.04 LTS arrives today complete with forbidden ZFS

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Re: Priorities?

> Sounds to me like an argument over whether something's broken or not, with one side claiming it's not broken and the other saying it is.

No most of the complaints about systemd aren't from people saying that init can't be improved upon, it can and it needs to be. It's just that systemd has taken the wrong turn in it's attempt to fix things.

There are other attempts to produce a better init, a better init is needed sure. But an init that thinks it is also an NTPd is not what the world needs.

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Re: Priorities?

It looks to me many complains about systemd is from people who wish to manage systems as if it was still 1970 and nothing changed in the past forty years.

Most of the criticism of systemd that I see are from people who would like their systems to work and not have key things broken for them by a bit of SW that has decided to shutdown some key service because it feels like it. The Unix approach of doing one thing and doing it well has proved useful for 40 something years because it appears to be the best way of doing things. It's like writing SW using functions rather than trying to put all your code in one place and using goto's. There are many good ideas incorporated into systemd, but they would still be massively better if they were separated out into a series of individual bits that did what they were supposed to do and did that job well.

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Clucking hell! Farcical free-range egg standard pecked apart by app

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Re: Simple App

> only needs to detect movement of the mouth.

If their mouth isn't moving then they are probably doubly lying

a) They'll be lying under their breath

b) They'll be lying by omission

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That naked picture on my PC? Not mine. The IT guy put it there

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Re: What happens in Vegas….

> Activities like searching for a new job are best done outside of ones current employer's system/hardware.

The first job I had as a Unix admin the department bought a LaserJet (original model, it was that long ago) just to make peoples CVs look better when they were printed out.

Now that's looking after your staff

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Furious English villagers force council climbdown over Satan's stone booty

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Re: Move the bloody thing

Given that the rock was there first surely it is the road that should move if there is a problem.

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Re: The compensation culture at work!

Does the phase "Pissed as a fart" spring to mind?

I suppose it was either blame the rock for jumping out at them or admit to being either drunk in charge or not in charge.

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BMW complies with GPL by handing over i3 car code

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ReL or are told not to escalate things

You'd have thought that people in call centres would be told to escalate things when the guy on the other end of the phone says things like "you do realise that what your company is doing here is against the law". This should ring an alarm bell which goes something like "I'm not paid enough to deal with this shit" and make it an SEP* as fast as possible.

(*) SEP, Somebody Else's Problem(TM)

(TM) the late great Douglas Adams

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Tired of Windows 10 phoning home? Maybe the special Chinese govt version is for you

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Re: So....

I think my wife's already got the Chinese version.

When she shuts it down now it lists all the still running apps (which we can't find) in Chinese.

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Oh, sugar! Sysadmin accidently deletes production database while fixing a fault

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Re: I was asked once to resize a virtual machine image.

I always like the way HP-UX's LVM had lvextend and lvreduce as separate commands, just to avoid this issue.

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Re: Found Out The Rule The Hard Way

> Please define "THREE SEPARATE PLACES".

There is a reason why the Veritas Volume Manager supports 32way mirroring. They had a customer ask for it. Said customer has 8 Data Center's (SIC) buried under 8 mountain ranges in 8 corners of their continent. At each data centre you need 4 copies, 2 for mirroring, a 3rd to split off for backup and the fourth so you can alternate the merge back, so there is always yesterdays data available too.

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BT: We're killing the dabs brand. Oh and can customers re-register to buy on our site?

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Re: Hell No

I used to buy most of my kit from Dabs, at one point they had a branch in Bracknell and I could just pop round to pick stuff up when I needed it. Then they consolidated up't norf but continued to offer a great service. Then they started to take longer and longer to fulfil orders. Amazon, eBuyer, Misco, even buying laptops direct from HP these days and it arrives the next day. eBuyer often has things to my house first thing in the morning on free delivery. Dabs can still be claiming to be picking your order more than a week after placing it online. That wouldn't have worked in the 90s, it sure as hell won't work now.

Notice to suppliers, you've got 24hours to deliver or you're about as relevant to today's business world as a horse drawn milk cart.

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How one developer just broke Node, Babel and thousands of projects in 11 lines of JavaScript

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Re: Timing

> it's more about perceived good will in the brand and whether the brands could be confused,

He could argue that there is no risk of confusion but now Kik can't their legal missive is proof that they believe that confuse arises so they've shafted themselves. They can't now argue that their is no confusion because they've legally stated that their is.

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Re: But did Kik's website go down?

Even better if the Kik's shitesters website had imploded too. Would be great if they got a sudden lesson in intellectual property rights "Know that stuff you're using? Well it's mine and you can F*&k right off"

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True believers mind-meld FreeBSD with Ubuntu to burn systemd

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Re: Well systemd is what you get

And systemd is so good at coping with weird corner cases isn't it. Such a lock solid reputation for always doing the right thing. Especially when the poor box is also infested with NetworkManager to stir things up till systemd decides to just kill them.

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Data-thirsty mobile owners burn through 5GB a month

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Re: Same here

"They still seem to have parent friendly tariffs (ie you know what it's going to cost you - no shocks!)"

Agree - up to a point!

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What I couldn't find was any easy way to configure a cap on data

Since it is an all you can eat service why would you want to put a cap on the data usage?

Except to limit the amount of time the little perisher spends gawping at YouTube

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Re: Same here

We've got 3 of the Three SIM only deals, the first was only £12->13/m the other 2 were a couple of quid more. When we took them out we were warned that tethering was limited but they haven't complained about the usage. Number2 son burns through well over 100G each and every month these days,I think he took it as a great insult when I pointed out in the first month he'd missed the 100GB by a a couple of MB and has promised to use it more ever since. Compared with him my usage is trivial, but they've just texted me to say my recent trip to the US would have been £1500 more expensive if they charged for roaming (it wouldn't have been, I'd have turned off roaming and bought a local SIM).

They still seem to have parent friendly tariffs (ie you know what it's going to cost you - no shocks!)

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Linus Torvalds wavers, pauses … then gives the world Linux 4.5

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Re: PS/2 Mice

Hey, I've got some not that ancient servers that have PS2 for keyboard and mouse.

Errr not that I'd ever use a mouse on them, mice should be connected to servers via the LAN cable :-)

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US chap sharpens paradigm-busting scissors

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Re: >I'm sure they predate the invention of the idea of discrimination.

> Or do you mean the idea of trying not to discriminate? : )

No I meant before the days when people expected not to be discriminated against.

Though I'm not quite old enough to remember when "cack handers" expected to be beaten at school till they learned to write neatly with their right hand. I can remember teachers talking about it.

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Re: History repeats

> Got some in my garage right now :)

Well they're in the old man's garage, but...

We had then in the metalwork room at school too, plus a larger version (guillotine) where the top arm started off a right angles to the work.

Sorry neither the ones at my parent's or the ones at school would work for the left handers. I'm sure they predate the invention of the idea of discrimination.

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Samsung off the hook as $120m Apple patent verdict tossed

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Re: hold on..

What!

The cavemen did it counts as prior art

Since when did that happen?

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German mayor's browser tabs catch him with trousers down

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Re: So fucking what?

> Shock horror - man watches porn in hotel room.

He's a politician, he should have blamed it on his wife and quickly claimed for it on expenses.

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Indonesian comms ministry orders 'gay emoji' block

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holding hands

I don't think I've ever seen any of my male gay friends holding hands, on the other hand it is very common to see men holding hands in the Middle East, and I'm presuming that they aren't all gay.

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This is why copy'n'paste should be banned from developers' IDEs

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Re: Tailes from the support desk

OH but sendmail.cf is a truly beautiful thing. You just need to remember that Eric was a poor student and therefore obsessed with dollar signs.

Configuring was lovely to people started messing it up with bloody macro languages, I could never get my head around why anyone would want to use M4 let alone worry about how it worked.

I remember teaching one OpenMail class where a student's company had paid serious bucks for a couple of different consulting companies to get something done differently in their sendmail config only for them to eventually say it was impossible and send in a big bill. He was late in the morning when we covered sendmail.cf and arrived while I had everyone doing labs. I sat him down and walked him through it, then added 1 line to the file and got it doing just what they'd been asking for.

Then again I was always being told my head was screwed on wrongly.

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Government hails superfast broadband deal for new homes

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OK, my house was built 20 years ago, but it was right in the middle of lots of cable companies digging out all the roads in sight to lay cables at their own cost. But the cable company back then went to the builder on our quite large estate and said, hey if you give us a large pile of dosh, we'll lay cable TV to all these houses and you'd be able to sell that as a feature to your customers. The builders response was "piss off, you do it for free for all the other roads why should we pay you?" A stand off ensued. As a consequence no cable was laid, and since the builders had to lodge a sizeable bond with the council guaranteeing the roads the builders refused point blank to let the cable companies monkeys come along later to dig up the road. So still no cable.

Meanwhile since we were buying the house new we asked to be allowed to lay CAT5 everywhere before they plastered. No deal :-( Another new house we'd looked at was going to allow us to lay network cables everywhere, but the house was smaller and more expensive. So what do you chose?

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SCO slapped in latest round of eternal 'Who owns UNIX?' lawsuit

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Re: WANTED - URGENT : Vampire hunter with gatling holy-water crossbow to end useless sucking

Mr Slant is a zombie not a vampire, don't you need fire to deal with them?

It is usually reported that he became a zombie as he wished to pursue the financial disbursements involved in conducting his own defence at the trial that lead to his execution.

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It killed Safe Harbor. Will Europe's highest court now kill off hyperlinks?

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Re: Take down all road signs...

> The better analogy is more like putting the photos in a cardboard box behind a bush on the public sidewalk in front of your house and hoping

Even that isn't good analogy, it is like putting a box full of photos in a public library that you run but just not putting them in the card index. They are there, they are on the selves if anyone happens to look but just not index, until now.

The legal bods need to come down fair and square on the idea that links are legal and that if there is ever any infringement it is the hosting website that is the one infringing.

Trying to stop web pages using links is like King Cnut wanting to keep his toes dry.

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Little warning: Deleting the wrong files may brick your Linux PC

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@Jeff Lewis

This weakness must exist in all other OS's on this platform too. True Linux is making this information easily available and on other OS's you might need to dig further to find it. But that isn't the problem. The problem is that once the NVRAM has had the UEFI variables deleted the systems is bricked.

It isn't a case of just recovering the UEFI partition. The systems is bricked, you can't recover anything using any OS. You need a method of restoring the NVRAM but the system won't boot far enough to allow you to do this.

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Re: This is a lot more serious than the article suggests

It sounds more like an implementation issue, or others would be reporting the same issue on other boxes.

It is certainly not a problem to have dual ROMs for EFI, actually the first EFI systems I came across didn't. The ones that were flown over to Europe to training the HW engineers when they were about to be first released were in the middle of a FW upgrade when the training centre had a total power outage. All but one of the boxes was in the middle of a reload and was bricked.

The production versions of the machines had dual FW.

There are a number of possible problems here though. Is it like deleting a file with a mirrored disk? It's deleted both copies?

Is it that the ROM image thinks it's fine so hasn't triggered a switch to the backup ROM?

Is it the case that it can't get far enough into the boot sequence to realise that it needs to switch to the backup copy.

Or is it that it switches to the backup copy which can't boot this config either because its the data that's toast not the actual FW image in ROM.

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Re: Wanted - Motherboard no UEFI

Not sure about UEFI, but I used EFI for donkeys years, it has lots of nice things about it. BIOS was dreamt up in about 1872 and had been kludged around a lot since then. EFI was an attempt to come up with an sensible approach to being able to add new things into your firmware when you add new things into your HW.

This problem is down to a dumb implementation of UEFI, I don't know, it could be that other implementations are equally dumb.

Lots of things can be controlled by variables in EFI, variables can be created and changed as deleted. The stupid thing is that you can remove variables and that will stop it from being able to boot at least as far as some EFI interface.

I used to use EFI on Itanium boxes, and there it booted and took you into a nice Boot manager menu where you could set up all the boot options you liked, and it would normally also give you an option to access the EFI shell too, which was a bit like DOS. When the last generation Itanium systems switched to UEFI that nice boot manager seemed to disappear to make it look like a PC just booting what it was always going to boot and you had to do BIOS like things to get any interaction.

If I could have that boot manager menu and shell approach I'd chose UEFI over BIOS every day of the week.

BIOS must also have lots of internal variables. It is quite likely that combinations of these could brick a system too. I know one of my BIOS based boxes recently decided that it no longer wanted to boot from disk or from the network, even though the boot order options were set to boot from disk as the first choice. I ended up having to boot from a USB stick and re write the FW to the system.

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Re: This is like BIOS flashing by Unix commands

> A virtual file linking to firmware settings

> A dangerous file system delete that I can think of no use for other than fun

Well apart from being able to set things like your boot paths and all of the other setting that can traditionally be set from FW.

Using the boot device as an example, if you install an OS, any OS, onto a BIOS based system there is no generic way to know where BIOS is going to want to boot from. If it's a simple PC then it's easy to guess. If its a more complex server then perhaps this is a bit more of a problem since there might be several possible disks. Take an HP ProLiant as an example. The default BIOS boot selection order is CD, Floopy, USB (includes SD-Card), Disk & finally Network (which is frankly insane, but that's the default).

But when it comes to disks there could be the internal SmartArray & external arrays which are perhaps connected via FC.

So when you do an install you can chose whether to write the OS to the internal SmartArray, the internal SD-Card or the external multipathed FC array. If you're installing RHEL6.X (*)it is relatively easy to choose which disk will be your root disk and where you want to write the boot loader. RHEL6 then does a pretty good job of guessing (but it is guessing) on the BIOS drive order, but you have an option to specify which order it should assume they'll be in. Then comes the problem. The install tends to want to format the SD-Card, so BIOS then tries to boot from there, even though you've just installed onto the disk. So after the install you get a boot failure. Now this is easy enough to fix from either the iLO or the RBSU, but it needs to be fixed.

If all these types of FW setting were accessible under /sys then it would be easy for the install to a) set the FW to boot from your chosen boot device & b) set the device mappings for the boot loader to match what the FW was doing.

(*) RHEL6 seems easy here, with some versions of Debian I've found the need to break out to the shell and manually install GrUB on the right disk, some versions of Ubuntu I've found I've had to pull the SD-Card out before doing the install and with SLES11.3 I'm yet to find a way to configure multipathing during the install and not have it install the boot loader on one of the MP FC disks even if you write the OS to the internal array. I've no idea what other OS's such as Windows might do under these circumstances.

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Ofcom's head is dead against Three and O2's merger

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Re: Already gone...

> There's an unlimited data plan for £20/month on their website at the moment. That seems pretty cheap.

18months ago you could get that 200mins & unlimited data 1 month rolling contract for £12.9? a month when I signed up eldest son, last year in bumped up and then up, I think it we put the youngest one on it at £18/month but a 1 year contract.

We've got 3 of these contracts now and haven't (yet) heard from 3 about canning them. I did get a text from them today saying that they now have an addon for using your phone as a hotspot, which we've never done. The contract allowed for 4GB/month as a hotspot and unlimited for the phone itself. Number 2 son says he routinely pulls about 130GB/month these days!

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Reg readers battle to claim 'my silicon's older than yours' crown

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I've got

An HP85 from 1980 which still works fine. I'm told the printers and tape drive can give problems but the rest of it is likely to still be working when the Sun goes nova on us.

I've also got the Casio 502P I bought in 1978 to do my A-Levels, does that count?

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Pubs good for the soul: Official

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Re: Save the pubs! Fix the beer!

> I've had Bass, Guiness, Harp, etc. They are all unenjoyable.

Hmmm

Has anyone sold Harp on this side of the puddle since 1977? I hope not!

The Bass I've had in the US has absolutely nothing to do with the Bass over here where it's a very nice real ale. Mind even if they did sell the real stuff in the US it would almost certainly be served at the wrong temperature. I used to frequent a pub in Cupertino across the road from what is now I guess Apple but didn't used to be. They used to sell Fuller's beers but ice cold. It was like drinking warm white wine or ice cold red wine or port (the real reason the English have been at war with France since our ancestors dug out the channel is because those damn foreigners drink port from the fridge!). It just doesn't work. I always used to have to order 2 pints at the start of the evening. That way while you suffered the first one, the second one had time to come up to temperature. It still doesn't taste quite right but it helps.

Guinness? well that depends on what sort.It's an acquired taste. Then again there is Guinness and there is Guinness it depends on what you were brought up on. Me I grew up near Park Royal so that's the taste I acquired. Not that I mind the stuff they sell in Dublin :-)

I seem to remember that Samuel Adams does quite a passable Stout.

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> I am currently suffering from serious mental pain at the terrible dilemma this has forced me to consider. Which would I prefer to live without, tea or booze? The mental cruelty of the quesiton

I'm very sorry

I truly am

I feel your pain

I too couldn't chose between tea and booze

In my defence I can only say that I've not had any booze yet today so can't be expected to get my spelling nor my grammar right.

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Re: Willie Nelson

As a TV doctor once famously said

"The definition of an alcoholic is someone who drinks more than their doctor"

There are very few alcoholics in the country

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Re: giving head

Giving beer a head is a cultural thing.

At the risk of being prejudice in England it tends to be a North / South divide topic.

Larger usually has a head and is usually fizzy. In Holland it is (or was) a legal requirement for a glass of beer (larger) to have 2 fingers worth of froth on the top. So barmen with fat fingers are popular with publicans because that means there will be less beer in the glass. The 2 fingers are counted as being part of the legal measure.

With most real ales there is no fizz and so the head is largely made in the nozzle of the pump (beer engine). A barman can usually choose whether to put a head on the pint or not, it's in the wrist action. When I used to work behind the bar at a rugby club, for customers I didn't know I'd put a head on the beer if they had a northern accent and pour them flat if they didn't. Visitors were often intrigued by this and you'd get customers asking you to to pour out successions of pints alternately with and without the head without changing anything on the pump.

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THIS MUST BE WRONG

THIS MUST BE BANNED

WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS NO SAFE AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL

and alcohol free beer isn't ever going to make anyone happy.

Only miserable tea-totallers are entitled to be happy

Our government has spoken

(But please continue to buy booze coz we can't afford to lose the tax revenue)

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Google UK coughs up £130m back taxes. Is it enough?

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Re: it is deficiencies in the tax laws

The problem with it being a deficiency in the tax laws is that makes it the government and the MPs fault and they can't admit to this.

The international tax system is simply no longer fit for purpose.

Now if I work in India I have to pay an Indian withholding tax. That is I have to pay Indian tax on the work I do there, they will then give me a certificate that says I've paid this tax and I can then claim this back against any tax the UK authorities might want to charge me on the same piece of work. If Indian tax is higher than UK tax, I lose out.

Now this strikes me a much more sensible way to work in an international environment. If Google (and all the others, it ain't just Google) had to pay UK corporation tax on work done in the UK and were then given a certificate to hand to the Irish authorities that says they've already coughed up this much. Then the UK would get the tax due on the UK bit of business. So instead of paying the lower rate of tax between the 2 countries, they have to pay the higher one.

Of course there are still a million and 1 tricks played by accountants.

So for example Starbucks claim that Starbucks UK makes no profit on any coffee sold in the UK because for every £1 worth of coffee they sell they have to pay £1.01 to Starbucks Logo Inc of some tax haven somewhere. This sort of thing is just pure bollocks and should be outlawed. Money spent of real R&D should be recoverable or there will be no new products, but money spent on other spurious bits of IP shouldn't.

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How to help a user who can't find the Start button or the keyboard?

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Can't find the keyboard

I used to support HP-UX back in the late 80s. A lot of our customers used their systems to run CAD packages, typically HP's own one. Most of these people had their workstations configured to boot straight into the CAD package and so never used the keyboard.

It was typical to get a call where you'd ask the customer to type something and there'd be this awkward silence.

Me: Do you know where the keyboard is

Customer: Errr I think it's around the back somewhere

Me: OK can you go and have a look for it.

Pause: followed by a few banging sounds, some muttering, the occasional swear word then the sound of the phone being picked up.

Customer: OK got it, now what was it you wanted me to type?

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Eventually you'd get them to having a terminal window

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Me: Lets start by find out where you are on the system, please type p w d

Awkward silence

Me: OK you'll find the "p" key on the top row of letters at the right hand end

Customer: Errr

KER CHUNK!

Me: Now you'll find the "w" key towards the left hand side, but still on the top row of letters

KER CHUNK!

and so on

Talking them through a "vi" session was so much fun.

Of course keyboards were do much tougher back then, the modern ones would probably have cracked in two halfway though the first command.

Can't really blame most of the customers, they'd bought a fancy new drawing board as far as they were concerned. Things like keyboards were just a distraction.

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2015's horror PC market dropped nine per cent

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Re: Windows 10's arrival in business should help sales to pick up

It's the arrival of Windows 10 which is killing off the PC business.

Users got their hand burnt so badly by the s*&t which is W8.* and they are scared stiff that the forced on us virus ware that is W10 is going to just make things worse they are no longer interested in PCs.

Thanks MS, you just screwed the whole business!

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Nvidia GPUs give smut viewed incognito a second coming

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Re: Video driver clearing memory

This should be a C2 security failure, reusable resources should be cleaned before reuse.

Imaging if the GPU was doing the whole video session, it could have the credentials including passwords etc in it's memory, these could then be picked out by another app on the same box.

This is a major security snafu.

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If you want a USB thumb drive wiped, try asking an arts student for help

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Re: Sod thumbdrives

And there was me hoping for the noise of a good old fashioned head crash.

Please explain in 100 words or less why exactly you expected this to happen.

Coz manufactures go on and on about how the disk heads need perfect conditions to keep flying just above the surface of the disk and why we used to have to go to such care back when hard disk packs used to be removable and all the bollocks we were fed when removable packs were phased out in favour of sealed for life units.

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Sod thumbdrives

I was retiring good old fashioned hard disks the other day. I was very disappointed to find that when you peel off the label that covers the "inspection hatch" while they were running there was no satisfying noise of total destruction, just a lot of wind noise, and the buggers just kept on working fine till I stuffed something into the hole.

And there was me hoping for the noise of a good old fashioned head crash.

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Foetuses offered vaginal music streaming service

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Re: Hmm...

Some time after he was born, we received a baby gift of "relaxing womb sounds." The normally placid little chap reacted with considerable distress when the disc started to play, and settled only when it stopped.

When MrsConfused was expecting our first little one there was a load of publicity about playing music to your unborn children so she thought we'd have a go. A pair of head phones pressed gently to her tummy (just like your picture) and some soothing Beethoven. Well this resulted instantly in some serious kicking.

Experiment not repeated.

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