* Posts by GameCoder

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US Navy's LASER CANNON WARSHIP: USS Ponce sent to Gulf

GameCoder

Re: Geneva Convention

The USoA had this added to the Geneva Convention because lasers are a very effective and cheap counter to air superiority. The wattage and focus required to disable a vehicle is significant, however blinding enemy pilots is much easier and lower powered. And the US wont set foot anywhere where they dont have total air superiority. Concern for the welfare of the comman man or the civility of warfare was not the aim with this cynical addition to the convention.

Technically the Swiss and Swedes added this however I have my tin foil hat on regarding their motivations.

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'How a censorious and moralistic blogger ruined my evening'

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Rides of Glory

The page seems to be down now - was there seriously a public URL entitled "Rides of Glory" tracking one night stands? How did they work that out?

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Rosetta probot drilling DENIED: Philae has its 'LEG in the AIR'

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Mushroom

Could have been worse, at least it didn't exploded at launch...

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Brit cops nab six in Silk Road 2.0 drugs sting

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WTF?

500 times the size of the internet I hear

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29950946

"The so-called deep web - the anonymous part of the internet - is estimated to be anything up to 500 times the size of the surface web."

Sounds like we need a new Register Unit, 'estimates of the size of parts the internet', perhaps named 'Bullshits'?

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Oz carrier Tiger Air takes terror alerts to new heights

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Re: Targeted

If the purpose of the attacks was to kill civilians, then one doesn't give warnings, and we see this at present in bombings in Iraq and Nigeria. According to CAIN, the Provisional IRA was responsible for the deaths of 1,823 people between 1968 - 2001, or about 4 per month. The death tolls when civilian casualties are the goal are two to three orders of magnitude higher, peaking at 3,000 PER MONTH to take Iraq as an example.

Stop letting your emotions drive you, try some thinking for a change. None of this is apologist, simply an observation that civilian body count was obviously not the goal of the Provisional IRA.

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Targeted

You are correct, and in fact the IRA rarely targeted civilians. And please people, pay attention to the wording here before downvoting: *Targeted*. Civilians could and did get caught up, but they were not the targets per se. The IRA "spectaculars" series of attacks were in fact intended to be exactly what you suggest: strategic attention seeking bombings demonstrating ability and expensive disruptions, but civilian death was not the strategy (unlike for example, bombings of crowded markets in Iraq, which shows the horrors that might have been in the UK).

Taken to the conclusion: if you intend on waging a campaign of violence from within a country, do it without bloodshed but at high financial cost to your opponent.

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Cops apologise for leaving EXPLOSIVES in suitcase at airport

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Mushroom

Doesn't ring true indeed

But I suspect that its most likely a story made up by the cops to resolve internal issues. A bit like "the prisoner walked into a door" or "the prisoner cut himself shaving", these are bullshit stories that suit the circumstances whilst minimizing the culpability of those involved. It happens every time officials are caught with their pants down. For example, I would not be shocked to learn that this is a cover story for an actual loss of 230g of high explosive, where they 'find' it by having a friend of a friend 'discover' they have the wrong suitcase.

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Gaming supremo creates maps that turn real world into Sim City

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Pint

Gratz to the team

I know how hard the journey has been for some in that studio. Great to see this on The Register. I still have an infamous linked list implementation from my time there as a keepsake :)

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What the BLOCK? Microsoft to gobble Minecraft-maker 'for $2bn'

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Lego

Minecraft is this generations Lego and World of Warcraft in one. Its profitable too. It might actually be worth $2bn, even if this seems crazy money to you and I.

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Alien Ninja Fembot Pirates vs the Jedi SAS Chuck Norris startroopers: RUMBLE

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Lets look at the evidence...

Aliens, robots, undead, animals and monsters seem to have little to no chance upon encountering humans. They may be bouyed by initial wins, but the closer they get to their goal of defeating any sized group of people, the surer their defeat looms. From the cold depths of space to the alien home planets, or in Earth jungles or cities, nothing is so dangerous to a hostile plan as an endangered human. Even alone, outnumbered, on foot, wounded and armed with little more than a bladed weapon or a light machine gun, a human opponent is not to be taken lightly.

So the question is which amongst the humans is the most deadly? Its not so clear cut, but the chances of winning seem to be incredibly improved if you are:

* Photogenic and aged under 40.

* A group outsider, misunderstood or shunned.

* You are wrongfully accused of a crime.

* You are ex police and/or special forces OR if you have no military training whatsoever.

* Your superiors are evil and dislike you.

* Speak with American accent.

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iCloud fiasco: 100 FAMOUS WOMEN exposed NUDE online

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Mushroom

Meanwhile in other news..

War in Europe as Russia continues invasion of sovereign nation.

War in N. Africa continues: Jihadists butcher another journalist.

Ebola rages uncontrolled across Africa as WHO pleads for military intervention.

I know some people find leaked pics of vacuous twits who undress for money anyways to be interesting, but I am amazed at how journalistic sites like the BBC find time and space to cover this non-news against the backdrop of current affairs at present.

I don't know if you guys are paying attention, but current state of world affairs looks like Tom Clancy and Dan Brown had a love child and it wrote an airport novel. Ebola 'kills-before-it-spreads' is now spreading, having reached centres of population. Russians shot down an airliner and their tanks are rolling into a neighboring european country: 'Peace in our time' EU doesn't know what to do. And in Arabia al-qaeda has somehow grown from a Saudi Arabian madman's personal fantasy to potentially having its own state.

Sigh.

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US judge: YES, cops or feds so can slurp an ENTIRE Gmail account

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Re: What's the problem?

Hmmm ... and isnt that correct? AFAIK a search warrent must detail what is being searched for. "Bad Stuff" isnt acceptable. If for example they are searching your house for a missing child, they cant look in your matchboxes.

Of course the reality is that the cops word the warrent to permit searching as wide as possible.

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14 antivirus apps found to have security problems

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Point of Issue

Don't blame the C language please. Despite its age it is still an excellent language, it still has relevancy and it is the language of choice for most safety critical systems. The issue here is poor developers and/or their pointy-haired managers.

Its true that C does contain some (few) functions that are inherantly unsafe (and impossible to make safe - see 'gets') however these should be well known to all developers for these applications and are also easily caught with analysis tools. Most of these functions are also deprecated and obsolete under the ANSI C standard too. Just dont use these functions.

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Computing student jailed after failing to hand over crypto keys

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Re: Silly sod

Are you serious? I've never been asked questions about my (lack of) criminality and I doubt time served for refusing to cough up passwords would do anything except comment on his strength of character. Yeah it might prevent employment with DOD or NHS but there's plenty of other places.

But as an employer I would be more concerned by the silly things he appears to find amusing or important such as trolling Facebook etc.

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Boeing to start work on most powerful rocket ... EVER!

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Alien

Re: Never launch

I will believe it when I see it. I'm still waiting for this one to materialise:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/01/15/bush-announces-plan-for-missions-to-moon-mars/

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CIA rendition jet was waiting in Europe to SNATCH SNOWDEN

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Thanks Reg

You sometimes seem like the last bastion of journalism. I have unblocked advertisers for your site only, thats how much I appreciate you :)

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Microsoft forms 'Special Projects' black ops team

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Re: Microsoft Research?

I know its a good laugh at an easy target, but its a little unfair. Credit where credit is due and all that. MS do some good research that is widely beneficial. Their whitepapers are excellent, and many of their outcomes are to be seen in games. One I have some experience of is Microsoft's research into automatic level of details which benefits all games companies, and I know even Sony 'exclusives' to have run their meshes through the MS tools, which are *free* with the DirectX SDK

The math involved in developing some of these areas is certainly not for the faint hearted.

Some examples:

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/hoppe/efficientpm.pdf

http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/79438/SanEtAl08.pdf

http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/146019/SymbolicDifferentiationInGPUShadersTechReport.pdf

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Got Windows 8.1 Update yet? Get ready for YET ANOTHER ONE – rumor

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Re: If I were MS, I would be much bolder and replace icons with tiles.

You are clearly not a developer. Perhaps a manager? Or a barrista? Maybe a troll... *Live* tiles? Of all apps? ...

I'm glad we have this chance because I am quite a fan of Microsoft and I have to rant and shout and foam-at-the mouth at this piece of shit that is Windows 8.x Just what the fuck were they thinking? Its a mixed up unusable hybrid where even simple things are difficult to impossible to do, and 20 year power-users of Windows are stopped dead in their tracks by the shitty OS's insistence on sometimes switching to "tile" mode, with no option to fucking switch it off.

Some tasks which should be easy and perhaps even fun (change your login avatar/icon) become 'hmm let me google this' difficult. My gf struggled to do this until I decided to help out. Nothing new there. Except I couldn't either.

Looking deeper, Microsoft seems to really have some internal cultural problems, with overpowered idiot managers, and I suspect that an engineer in Microsoft is putting his/her career on the line by speaking sense. Its the only explanation for the persistence in so many fuck-ups recently (see also 'XBox One', from its fucking stupid name to its stupid management team, now gone, to its arrogant approach to its own customer base. See also Sony kicking MS ass this console generation...).

Early on it must have been clear as day that the missing start menu was going to be commercial suicide. *Every* tester must have commented on how difficult the OS was to use without it, and how shit and schizophrenic the tile parts seemed. But MS chose to ignore this. The popularity of the now ubiquitous start menu replacement app should have been a killer indication to MS that they fucked up, but still 8.1 they didnt put it back. Internally not admitting mistakes is more important than losing market share.

Its not hard Microsoft. You have the talent internally. Just start listening to your own customers, stop trying to be a shittier version of Apple and Google. Let them do their own thing. Play to your strengths.

Also, ffs, pay attention to games. Its the last area Windows pwns at ('PC' gaming) but fuck you idiots will throw that away too.

End rant, thanks.

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Snowden-inspired crypto-email service Lavaboom launches

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Re: Their web page is already snooping...

Good to hear that Bill. I think the customers who are willing to consider using a service like this (like me) will share these concerns. I have also emailed you (or 'Felix') directly earlier today.

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FAIL

Their web page is already snooping...

I wish companies and the public would wake up to the overuse of google-analytics. This is a worldwide *web* of internet usage which is all centralised at google. I dont understand how a so called privacy respecting website can have so much intrusive shit buried inside its front page.

Your emails might be stored encrypted, but I suspect that given the connectivity of the "social media" cookies etc that if you are not careful you can already be sniffed as signing up to this page if you do it while logged into facebook et al.

If you are signing up to this service, do it from a clean private browser session and make sure to look at the "privacy settings" tab before entering anything into any boxes. I noted with dissapointment that their "privacy" settings default to "No Privacy"

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Boss at 'Microsoft' scam support biz told to cough £000s in comp

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Re: B'stards

I tried this and they are wise to it. They cut the call after N minutes if they arent making progress.

And this scam isnt confined to just the UK, they were calling me in Sweden.

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No, pesky lawyers, particle colliders WON'T destroy the Earth

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Joke

We need a word with the Quantum Physicists...

FFS guys stop naming your particles with press friendly sensationalist names like "God", "Strange", "Top" and "Charm" etc. These articles wouldn't get half the press space if they had boring and unfamiliar names like 'Cornell' or 'Higgs'.

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A BBC-by-subscription 'would be richer', MPs told

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Learn from history or be doomed...

I remember similar arguments being used all those years ago for privatisation and look where that led.

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Remember when SimCity ABSOLUTELY HAD to be online? Not any more – fancy that!

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Re: Welcome to the end of the games industry

> Gaming is dead and EA killed it.

No way. If anything gaming is undergoing an indy renaissance. You wont see it if you only shop in the high street, but buy a copy of Edge, browse Steam Greenlight, even look (past this shit) in the Xbox indy section online, or read RockPaperShotgun sometimes. Gaming is alive, well and more vibrant, alternative, varied and exciting than ever.

If you have really been under a rock for the last 5 years, and are not just trolling, take a look at games like Braid, Amnesia, Don't Starve, LIMBO, Machinarium, Terraria, Torchlight, 'Papers, Please' and The Stanley Parable. And the mainstream eye candy is almost unbelievable now, especially if you remember when a Commodore 64 was the pinnicle of games tech. Treat yourself to Unreal's latest tech demos and try to remember its running in real time.

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Confessions of a porn site boss: How the net porn industry flopped

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Unhappy

Page not found for first part of article

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/13/my_life_as_a_smut_monger_pt1 << 404 for me.

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OH what a LOVELY, well-rendered WAR: Yes, it’s 'Call of Duty: Ghosts'

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Re: Firing guns in space

You sure about this? Bullet cartridges are pretty watertight, and they dont rely on sucking air into the breach to fire. Arent the percussion caps sealed inside cartridges with pressure sensitive chemical explosives? I'm not sure I would stand in front of an assault rifle in space and bet on it...

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SR-71 Blackbird follow-up: A new TERRIFYING Mach 6 spy-drone bomber

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Shouldn't it get shorter as it moves faster?

OK, just kidding with the title, but anyone informed enough here care to elaborate on the "At Mach 6 the aircraft will heat up considerably and also stretch out" - is this purely thermal expansion or something else?

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From Russia with Code: Edward Snowden gets job on website helldesk

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Re: poor form chaps

Agreed - a surprising bad end to the article, and make the Reg seem petty and out of touch. I am considering cancelling my subscription...

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'World's worst director' plans Snowden-inspired movie comedy

GameCoder

Worst movie? No way...

I haven't seen Postal, but if its like the trailer, I bet I could sit through it with a couple of friends and laugh. Its clearly not meant to be taken seriously.

There are *plenty* of films worse than 'Postal', mostly because their delivery never met their promise. It depends on what metric you use, however mine is 'enjoyability' - 'Postal' might score low, but shit like Prometheus (and most of the trash Hollywood serves up these days) has a *negative* score for me - I leave the cinema dissapointed and asking myself just how hard is it to have a movie with a plot thats not insulting to the intellect.

2001, Star Wars, Bladerunner, Alien, Aliens, The Matrix.... where are this generations films?

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Brazilians tear strip off NSA in wake of Snowden, mull anti-US-spook law

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Re: Doesn't Matter

Follow the money. If these kinds of changes start to hurt US businesses, the NSA will soon get their leash yanked.

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Xbox 180: Microsoft scraps mandatory Kinect policy

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Re: "Sony's consoles have been harder to develop for"

Factually correct, but Microsoft's tool chain and integration with Visual Studio means that developing for the XBone will be easier (I am basing this on my own experience with XBox 1 & 2, PS1, 2 and watching the swing from Playstation 2 to XBox as the primary target). Also, for better or worse, DirectX has a lot of traction now with graduates, and the employement churn is huge in the games industry, resulting in most of the new student talent being preferring to use DirectX. OpenGL is regaining ground, but it is still perceived as lagging (incorrectly, in my opinion).

Sonys internal culture is that of an electrical engineers, not software focused, and this is often reflected in their documentation and software quality. I predict Sonys console will continue to be slightly harder to develop on.

Ultimately though the choice of primary target when developing (the one you really develop on, and the other is the one you just port to) depends on the installed user base and the likely returns.

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Caterpillar B15: The Android smartphone for the building site

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Sonim phones are not so tough

I owned a Sonim (XP3300 Force) and loved it, but was dissapointed that learn through experience that the "waterproofing" was mostly superficial. For the most part the waterproofing isnt an integral part of the design, but rather some glued-on patches.

After about a year of normal handling (to and from work in a bag or pocket) and normal temperature variation the glue breaks down and the rubber begins to peel away. The "built for life" Sonim was no longer waterproof, without my knowing. To me the peeling rubber at the grips was surely just a cosmetic problem, but after a heavy rainfall I found my phone to be no longer working. It had become wet inside, and examining the peeling areas I was shocked to find that the phone wasnt in the least "waterproofed" internally.

Caveat emptor.

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US public hate Snowden - but sexpot spy Anna Chapman LOVES him

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Pint

Re: Surprise, surprise

I agree, have an upvote, and if you are ever in Stockholm lets grab a beer.

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REVEALED: Google's GINORMOUS £650m London Choc Factory

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"We are going to invest in London"

...is a useful bargaining chip to have when negotiating on tax avoidance in London.

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Privacy expert dismisses PRISM-busting typeface as 'art project'

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Re: isn't the point to render as a png or the like?

Your post is like a penny dropping right through this thread, reversing almost all previous posts. Well done. Using the font like this would certainly make PRISM work harder.

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Girls, beer and C++: How to choose the right Comp-Sci degree for you

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Re: No you choose your degree at 13

"..at the end of the day a talented programmer can structure and design a reasonable system in his (sadly yes) head while you wait. He then has to spend the next three to six months writing it down. That's a bloody long (and very *precise*) essay/dissertation by anyone's standards. And he has to do that year in, year out, during his programming career."

A fantastic description of programming which had never occurred to me :)

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Sony sucker-punches Xbox on price, specs, DRM-free gaming

GameCoder

Re: you could STILL turn it off (switch on the wall).

If you remember, the original xbox 1 penalised you for switching it off at the wall. It had an internal capacitor that rapidly powered down, resetting the internal clock. A switch-off at the wall meant it had the incorrect date when switched on again if left off for even just a day or two. Worse, some game saves checked their timestamp against the current date and erased saves with "impossible" dates... You had to be careful to remove your game save dongle (remember those?) before powering on an xbox that had been off.

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Sony has it right, this time

I'm a big Microsoft fan. Having programmed for the PS1, PS2 and Xbox 1 (not ONE) and 2, coding for the xbox was a dream after sony's electrical engineering "documentation" and terrible tool support. I also love graphics, and the PS2 never quite cut it for me. I swore I would never have a Playstation in my home.

But...

Microsoft seems keen to move as far as possible away from "gamers" as it can. It completely misreads and misunderstands its audience. Games and gamers are what will decide which console is bought, and Microsoft seem to not have had their finger on the pulse. Gamers dont want always on. Gamers dont want server based single player games. They dont want their game machine to become an ad streaming box. And Microsoft seems to be blind to all this.

And with the Prism revalations - I know I do NOT want a machine which requires internet access every 24 hours and which will lock me out of my own games when I wont let it connect. I do NOT want a machine with an always open mic. I do NOT want a machine with a 3D camera watching me which is a fundamental component and not an optional add-on.

So, fuck you XBox One.

(Even the name 'One' pisses me off, and is telling about how stupid Microsoft's management team are. You already had an Xbox one, and it wasnt that long ago...Its like they wanted a confusing, lack-luste hard-to-google name...)

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Author Iain (M) Banks falls to cancer at 59

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Sincerely missed

El Reg seems to be an appropriate place to express my sincere sadness at his passing :(

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Reports: New Xbox could DOOM second-hand games market

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Its probably very hard to "enable" the games

I completely agree. I also suspect that it will be, by design, very very hard to run these games without a server and authentication.

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Japan forgot data wipe on ship sold to Pyongyang

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Re: Re; AIS

"...this is a non-story except for the frustrating sheeple wetting themselves to be told the next enemy of the day. Note the clueless reference to China in an earlier comment."

Sounds like someone needs a history lesson. China may be becoming the enemy-de-jour for some countries, but theres been no love lost between Japan and China for many a year.

You might want to take a read of this too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands_dispute and maybe catch up a little with current affairs:

http://www.businessinsider.com/japan-to-raise-military-budget-for-first-time-in-a-decade-amid-china-row-2013-1

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/06/us-china-japan-navy-idUSBRE9251GU20130306

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Re: Numpties.

Agreed. This data is probably useful. You can use it to correlate your own intel systems. You may find evidence of breaches of maritime law, or international agreements. You could even cause an internal scandal in japan just by NK holding a press conference showing off readouts of the data.

AFAIK, the japanese "Coast Guard" is a thinly disguised navy, and they are ramping it up - mostly wrt to countering China.

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Malware-flinging Winnti crew has been RIPPING OFF gaming firms for YEARS

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Belarus == World of Tanks

World of Tanks is the only Belarusian MMO that I know of. For a while too early versions of "World of Tanks" would only run as admin. Time to do a fine grained virus check on my machine. Thanks for the heads-up El Reg.

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Microsoft Xbox gaffe reveals cloudy arrogance

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Stop

Re: connection comes with a 99 per cent contract guarantee

Even with a decent connection I switch the Xbox on my network to "offline" before I play any online multiplayer games on my PC. With the XBox on, even when playing a game on it which has nothing whatsoever to do with anything networked, the XBox is regularly hogging the bandwidth on my LAN - I can tell from my in-game ping display in World Of Tanks whether the XBox is on or not. And it occasionally causes huge spikes, which I suspect is a background process on the XBox downloading some ad junk.

I really hope Microsofts 'yes' men grow some balls and stop this lunacy because the XBox is a great console, but requiring always-on will be commercial suicide.

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GCHQ attempts to downplay amazing plaintext password blunder

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Re: was it yesterday?

Yupp, it was in the article about an outed Mossad agent list, and people were convinced that these "pros" would never make mistakes like that. Well, when I see people convinced that something can never happen, I just see people lacking in life experience.

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Are you in charge of a lot of biz computers? Got Java on them?

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Re: Multiple computers, multiple users, multiple browsers, what an arse

Agreed. Is it possible to install Java as something local to a folder, so I can just point e.g. Minecraft at it? When I install it, its seems to spread its tentacles everywhere - startup, IE, environment etc.

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Nvidia unveils Minority Report-style face-bot tech

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"So how is this going to be used in the real world?"

Early days still, its good but not yet totally convincing. But I suspect you will see these happen in our lifetimes:

Hollywood "stars" will be scanned and sampled, and contracts will mention not just "use of likeness" but animated likenesses etc.

Thirty years from now Justin Beiber et al will be 'virtually' appearing to promote products, appealing to their aging demographics sense of nostalgia for the 2010s. They will have signed away their likeness rights early in their careers while up-and-coming.

Future movies can have fun with mashups, casting actors from different generations together.

Whole body versions of similar tech will be used for porn.

It will become possible to fake compromising footage of famous people, and this will be used for counter propoganda.

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Build a BONKERS gaming PC

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Re: Bonkers? Yes... Overpriced? Most definitely

@blcollier

"My point was more that this article didn't go "bonkers" so much as "ridiculously overpriced and sheer overkill""

Yes I thought that too. The machine isn't awe inspiring, only pricey. I'd like to see its budget handed to someone who really knows how to build game rigs and see how they could spend it. I'd expect to see an overclocked monster, with lights to match the mouse, keyboard and mat :) And 4 nVidia Titans in SLI :)

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WTF?

Re: Bonkers? Yes... Overpriced? Most definitely

I disagree. A rig like this will last the user 5+ years. Its hugely overspecced, and PC games allow gfx settings to be moved up and down. At the moment, and for a couple of years, this rig will rip through all games. And as games are tied more and more to the release cycles of the platforms, game gfx nowadays tends to step change as opposed to linearly ramp. So, this rig isnt going to be outdated anytime soon.

I built a rig like this as a treat to myself after a nice payrise a few years ago. Sadly its still going strong, hitting 60fps consistently even with the latest games. I *want* to buy a new one, and can afford it, but its difficult to justify when my 3 year old rig is still going so strong. A rig like documented here, or something similar (good Intel thread-strong chip, masses of memory, and a top-range nVidia card) and you will be in gaming heaven for years.

As to Windows...I dunno wtf you people are doing with your PCs? Like or hate Microsoft, my Windows (currently using 7) is f*cking rock solid. Keep the nVidia drivers updated, dont run as admin, dont-be-stupid-online, prefer to use Steam to buy and manage your games, and you should be good.

I do agree with the DRM issues. See also EA / SimCity et al. Vote with your wallet, just dont buy from them.

Windows 8 is ruined by its GUI though.

Also, not mentioned, "Cleanability" of the case fans is something I rate highly when buying a case.

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eBay: Our paid Google advertising was a total waste of money

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Joke

Do know evil

"In any Google search for a well-known brand like eBay, Amazon or John Lewis, that firm's site is going to pop up at the top of search results anyway..."

Until they stop paying for ads.

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