8 posts • joined Thursday 23rd August 2007 16:22 GMT
Well, for starters, here's a paper debunking the hockey stick graph.
Seems rather compelling to me. Can you produce a scientific paper that refutes what these guys say? If so, tell me what it is, because I do want to read it. That's my point. It's not enough to say, "That was refuted." Where? By whom? I've cited a source for my claim. Can you for yours? I honestly hope so, because, like I said, I'd like to read it.
How both sides of this debate say the same thing: "Those who (claim/deny) that humans are the cause of global climate change are relying on pseudoscience to lead people away from the established scientific fact that the reverse is actually the truth."
Though I rarely see any of this "established scientific fact" from either side. Except for that "hockey stick" graph, but that's been debunked.
This has become a war of belief, not science.
I'm sure they've gotten better since, but I remember discussing the universal translator problems back in college, and at the time the best one they (whoever they are) had translated "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak" in to Russian and then back into English. The result was "The vodka is good, but the meat is bad."
That being said, these Dutch guys are arseholes to get all riled up over what is obviously just a poor translation.
More humor. I make a response to a comment bashing America and I get accused of "bashing" Britain. I merely state fact. Besides, the camps you're referring to were "reconcentration camps" from which the term "concentration camp" evolved.
Besides, I love Britain. So smeg off.
If the US *does* exploit those oilfields, then they're "raping the environment". Joyous.
"but then again, the American goverment [sic] only introduced the concentration camp a few years ago"
Droll. Especially considering Hitler himself was late to the party. Britain invented them during the 2nd Boer War.
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