Here we see why I so often am telling not to use the Firfox. With IE I know I will see this mend as soon as we know of the hole and here we see it as I predict.

With Firfox we would be always reading about further delays to the latest version and he leave us open to the abuses for various extra months.

Why he still scrape around looking for small performance boosting when we see clearly that browsers building with Jav will never give me the performance I need. Why they not use compiling language to write browser if they seek most gain? I use IE8 as it is giving me the speed and the security that I desire and he comes free with the Windows and looked after by the Windows update so we have no problems.

Guinness cost at least £3.30 in pubs already and have for last year or twos.

Why he want Jav database anyway? C one will be always faster and with JBDC we can still use it from Javs if we need.

Firfox always has these bug every week we see new ones. Why do people use when they can have the free Internet Explorer which comes in the Windows box and is workng for us better?

In our company we must have IE because we need the security that comes with not having the open source. Open sources are good for the student hackers who plays with his simple codes in his bedrooms but for our proper businesses it must never be the option.

Also Firefox suffers us with the obviously problems of a Jav platform, while Safari and Opera have the niche codes without the support we need, and Chrome has the spam adverts built in, so IE is our best choice.

Why there is a problem if Microsoft takes the codes and makes it better? If the man gives his codes away and they are not already good enough then he seems only natural that Microsoft would do this to make it better for us all.

Why Firefox not just fix the bug instead of just tell the users about them?

With the IE we see that they can fix them quick with the update on the next day and user is not filled with worries. Why can the Firefox not be the same?

I will guess that it is the open source cause of problem - if the coding man might be on holiday or busy with his exams then they must just put out the notice for a while to warn me not to use the Firefox until they fix it? This is why I must pay for my software for the safety and to be nicely relieved of my tensions.

I am not understanding this free software cults. Why must it only be good thing for software to be free?

What else we see in life that takes many men-months or years to make and then people say it must be free? What is wrong for programmer man to expect some monies for his fine skills and all his working time put in?

Perhaps it all just comes in from student with long and greasy hair and heavy metal t-shirt and wifi called "Use-of-W3apons", who works on the Linux free instead of studying for my tax pounds. But when he goes away and must have a job he stops making the Linux free and is happy to take some money. And so it goes on that the Linux is only come from students which we find to be the bad reason for always the rewriting of the file system and things as each has own wheel to reinvent and no experience of the proper skills we seek from operating system man.

Why I post the same comments as other people but mine have the banning? I was not rude.

"leave that to the meerkats, who are much better at you and much funnier"

I do not see why you say this. But then you hide as Anonymous so I know you have not the courage to stand by it.

You tell story about Microsoft patch which waits two years but of course you are offering no backup story to explain what you say as true evidence.

I am happy with what I know to be based on properly looking at news and the technology papers. I am using Microsoft most times but still there must be times when I can recommend the alternatives when I have made proper research to prove it is the wisest of choices.

It seems many on the forums are not do their research as well like me and just shoot their hips when they see chance to beat brow Microsoft.

Many are often claim the Linux is the best and free but this shows that it fails to be the case.

Windows has many security update but never do we find a bug left in place for 8 years! In fact Windows always will update more often with a new versions to ensure it is more secure than the last one (we see NT ant 200 and 2003 and the newer ones and XP and Vistas for our examples).

When we see the Linux men not bother to change the softwares for 8 years we must worry. This is why I choose not to have it on my computers where I am working.

Perhaps you might only run one antivirus instead of lots. Maybe you not good at protecting the computer you have so it has many spyware and porn linking on the desktop? If he try a clean build first then might be better before to criticise something that we know is not the case. Also we see that you use the Maven WAR files - this is Javs.

If we have Linux on the desktop instead of the Windows we are say good bye to the PC everywhere as a tool of common man. Imagine all the men and dog try to use command line to make latest driver work like with WinModem.

It will be death of computer for ordinary person.

You say me an "idiot" which is not very nice from you.

Why you take it granted that he is more safe because they fix the bugs quicker and more often? How about it is only necessary to fix so many times because they are many more security vulnerability in the beginning? It is not enough to just say what you say - my logic is equal and valid so I am not an idiot like you say.

Who are the people who "it is considered far more secure" like you say? I see lots on the board here who do not agree - perhaps they call you idiot too?

Anyways you are not a nice person I think.

Why people use this one? He say "most secure way to surf the web" on the front but it have a bug every new day which risks me having computer germs and filth installed. I don't use because we have IE free and it works fast.

Yes GaryF has hit the button on the head. Firfox uses all my memory when I use it by accident - that is why I must use the IE for my efficiency. It seem obvious to me that they are silly to use Jav for a browser - it always slow and leaks the memory as we have no way to destruct the objects.

This gets to be beyond the funny joke.

Microsoft must launch program to help user stop Firefox before it starts as part of security suite, or uninformed user will accidentally use it and have their bank stolen.

Why Firfox developers not prosecuted for all this?

Always this same talk of Firfox against the Internet Explorer. Why must people try to always put the Microsoft one down when we know it comes for free and works best on the web sites? Also as I say before the Firfox Javs will always be its large downfall as it is most slow and also uses all my memory up in one go.

For me and my friends it is a no brain to choose IE8 as the best one.

P.S. also to please take some salt on the statistic that they say about users of the browser - due to some details in confusion with something we call the "users agent" most people are not sure which browser the customer chooses - many IE browsers flavour appear as though they are the Firfox through IE sending Mozilla to be sure that site will still serve it. This dates back to time when Sun tries to hoodwink the web from Microsoft with Java applets.

It is dead man walking with all the security flaw it has and slowness of Jav performance instead of Visual C++ of IE8 choice. I worry that many are led to this by spamware in the emails and do not choose to use in logical fashion. Why can Microsoft not add to Windows an update that will step in to recommend the problems with Firfox and then to direct to IE8 download site? Then people can be protected from all this every month.

Why all the fuss is made?

Who want to turn Windows 7 into XP anyway if they are letting you try Vista instead? Vista goes much faster than the Linux and it has the extra security pop-ups so this would be your best choice.

I cannot see what there is you complain about here. Microsoft are provide us with the system on which the Firefox Javs can run so it is up to them if they wish to correct them to run better. I think we should be thanking the Microsoft people who provide us with the extra .Net functions in the Firefox free of charge. They do not have to help the Firefox people but they do because they want the Windows to always keep being the best it can be.

"Those of you with iPhone envy just get a life. Whether you like it or not iPhone will come to dominate the mobile space for the next 10 years. Keep whining while I sit back and enjoy your fury! lol"

This is funny one. I think you live in the funny world with the drugs and everything but we can all laugh when you join us on the forums.

iPhone smells bad and looks out of date with the white on everything. It is the style which dates so quickly and they make you buy new ones to remain in the trends.

I laugh at all who have one of them and will laugh easier at them when they are lit up using the new battery more wastefully.

It is what Apples have always done though - they only sell them to trendy people who think Microsoft is not good because it make a success of it's job.

I am much rather having the machine which does the jobs properly - both for my computer and for my portable music. I save money without the iPhone and keep it in my pocket anyway so what is the difference? Except when I get it out to wave at the iPhone fool who has his white poor-quality earphones in my face on the trains.

We cannot be surprised to learn that Sun is having no money left to make it's computers. Many years ago now they launched the Javs which we use to make the popular applets.

They make two big mistakes when they make this.

First they do not charge any monies for the Javs. This means people have them free and must not pay for them. With Microsoft they did the C Sharp instead and for this we must pay with the Visual Studio. This way they keep it on an even keel and make the monies they need. With Sun they spend monies on the Javs and get none back. This is why Javs are now more broken because of decay from cheap maintenance over those few years.

Second mistake they make is the very promise of the Jav which is that it must work on each machine not just the Sun one. This mean that we just take their Jav and put it on the Windows where it runs best and not have to buy the big Sun box which take up more space.

Sun makes these mistakes in the early years but even then some of us would see the folly. Since then they do not change and they run out of the VC monies and must seek more.

IBM should write own new language and not buy the Javs. It will be better to have this as we can then have new features and not have the Entity Bean which slows me down.

"Given the amount of work involved in any desktop OS switch in terms requirements analysis, application selection, compatibility testing, integration with systems management processes, etc., you want to make sure that the horse you back represents a safe long-term bet."

Please to simply install Windows then no analysis or testing needed and we can all be sure to have backed the winning post horse.

Why to make work for himself with the Linux where my software will fail me?

This show the risk of using the fringe browsers. We must all take away the heed from this story and not spread using the insecure ones.

If you see on the Internet Explorer they have the padlock which tells you all is well. On the Jav ones they cannot do this with the full knowledge of our safety. Who is to know if a terrorist has my password once you have been on the web pages with a Javs browser like this Firefox one?

Where I worked on the Jav before we had to have the unix and much feared the root kit.

But solution is simple in new modern times. Now we use the Windows where it has no root user in the accounts so we must fear the root kit no further. It is most happy to make us all fear the security issues a little less so I commend the windows if you suffer root worry in your enterprises.

I think Microsoft make mistake to be like the other browsers. Internet Explorer is the best one and others should move instead to follow it and its good features.

Microsoft must not use Jav for their programs to slow them down. Instead it is better that they run the fastest and with more security - you see with the Javs being inside the JVM it is most possible for a spying program to see what runs and copy my password. This is why I am not using the ones like Firefoxes.

This is most correct Richard and it is as I say before - the Firfox will always run the much slowest because of the Javs. It is the price we pay for portability and the dream of write-once-run-most-times.

But for me the slowest cannot be my desire since I must have speed on my internet at all times, and for this I settle my choice with the free internet Explorer which I gratefully recieve.

I decide not to have the Firfox because of too slow - this will always be the problem when writing a browser in Javs.

The IE comes free and does all my needs and it can use the ActiveX which make things run better and more exciting.

"Its the duty which which makes it £2.90 a pint - government probably makes more money off a pint than than the brewery"

That's simply not true - although the breweries and most landlords would love you to believe it.

The duty in the UK in 2006 (sorry I don't have the 2007 figures to hand) on a 5% pint of beer was just 38p per pint (there's VAT too but that applies to most things).

The breweries and landlords use any minor budgetary increase to smack a load more on top to increase their margins. It has become standard practice in the UK to increase the price of a pint of beer by at least 5, and quite often 10 pence whenever the chancellor puts a penny on a pint. That's where the real rip-off is going on.