514 posts • joined 3 Aug 2007
Re: Sort of defeats the object then
Not really. If you choose to ignore the warning and go for a lock-in, that's your own stupid fault.
If nothing else it's a useful shaming device that puts the carrier's lock-in tactics right in your face.
Apple don't really talk to El Reg, which is understandable. But they do talk to imore.com
Apple's response there kicks a few wild accusations into the long grass.
Lest anyone needs reminding, Apple doesn't need your personal data in order to conduct its business. Plenty of other tech firms do.
Re: Zapp is clearly the future.
Don't forget to type in that 5-digit passcode while you're at it, for all the world to see.
Sorry, but solutions like this missed the boat.
Re: So in summary
Do you ever read stuff on the internet?
Re: Sounds bloody insecure
Actually, I suspect that Chip & PIN is significantly less secure than Apple Pay.
All you need is a compromised card reader (plenty of those have been deployed by criminal gangs) or someone looking over your shoulder to see the PIN. Neither of which is possible with Apple Pay.
Re: They want three years, between upgrades?
Nope. Starting with Mavericks, which introduced Apple's variant of memory compression, older computers were supported.
The same is true today. If a computer can run Mavericks, it can run Yosemite, released a couple of days ago. It can run on Apple computers that were made in 2007.
Top drawer article, Alistair. Great read.
Re: $399 on the 16GB Wi-Fi model
I guess you're not one of the 100% of people who were satisfied with this device (according to Tim Cook in his presentation). You should email him so he doesn't make that mistake again.
You care enough to comment in public. Having presumably spent time reading about it.
Thanks for letting the world know what you don't feel.
How many times have I seen this kind of behaviour before?
Re: I don't get the fuss
Well plenty of people have been squealing for more RAM. It will be faster. Touch ID is a tempter for me, because I hate people shoulder-surfing when I unlock my iPad. That's one of the best features of recent iPhones, implemented SO much better than the competition.
I don't give a damn about a better camera, or non-existent gimmicks like tinny stereo with a separation of a few centimetres.
So... bring it on.
Hey Janelle, what's wrong with Wolfie? I can hear him barking. Is he all right?
Re: Spending Limit + Theft
Spending limit enforcement: it's likely to work the same way that it does for contactless payments. For me, a more pertinent question is: will terminal equipment be upgraded so that higher spending limits can be agreed when a more secure (i.e. fingerprint) means of authentication is provided.
The banks will assume liability, as they do now for card payments.
Oh, it was YOU!! I had a good giggle myself when I lifted that card from your pocket and bought my own lunch with it :-)
Do try to keep up. When Apple Pay is activated in the UK, you'll be able to use it anywhere you see the NFC payment symbol. If, as you say, a long list of businesses 'have no current plans to deploy bonk to pay services for the iPhone', they must also have zero plans for handling NFC card payments. Which kind of flies in the face of what's actually happening in the UK.
You mention card swipe. Which is shit technology. Any thief can clone a magnetic stripe and use your card. Or they just lift your card and start buying stuff with it.
Apple Pay will require your fingerprint, which is much much harder to clone, in addition to your phone. That does not make it an attractive target for thieves.
The real benefit to the user, since you ask, is that your card information cannot be stolen from the phone, your purchases are authorised by your fingerprint, nobody can look over your shoulder to see you entering a PIN, and there's no magnetic stripe to clone.
Re: If I understand the technology correctly
Your phone knows about your card details.
Those details (which end up being stored in a 'secure element' of the phone) may be gleaned initially by scanning the card optically with its camera. Or - if you happen to have already registered a card for iTunes payments - that card is known to your phone.
You can't just go around photographing anyone's card and expect to be able to make payments with it. There's an authorisation process that must happen first - details not yet divulged. In the case of a card registered against your iTunes account, that's already authorised.
When your card gets a new expiry date, the card company will push that info out to your phone via some kind of message. Probably automatically. Details sketchy at this time.
Re: Can someone tell me...
The camera can sense a wider range of colours than your eye can. But this is a science mission. The camera has a variety of filters that can be used to detect specific wavelength ranges. For example, one filter with a 35nm bandwidth is specifically employed to detect iron-bearing minerals.
Space missions often take a series of images using colour filters that can be combined to give a good idea of how things might look to the human eye, but the science imaging always takes top priority.
For this particular object, from what I've heard, it's 'true' image, as you might perceive it, would be something rather like viewing a piece of coal.
Re: Mnemonics are not new
Good idea, but you should keep this kind of thing to yourself. It would be dead easy to create a rainbow table from a range of (popular) nursery rhymes using this algorithm. Just imagine how many people would end up using The Owl and the Pussy Cat went to sea as a basis for their key. Easy pickings. Wouldn't add much to the length of existing rainbow tables.
Re: Too slow...
8.1 is in beta (2) now.
8.2 and 8.3 are also being worked on concurrently. You can look forward to another update before the end of this month.
Re: Tries to kill?
Fair enough, 45. Sometimes I don't see the trees for the leaves.
Re: Tries to kill?
The XProtect update doesn't kill this trojan by some kind of magic.
What it does is prevent reckless users from installing it in the first place. And yes, people have verified that it stops even the most foolhardy user in their tracks.
Re: Will you make up your mind.
You thought Apple products never get viruses? You'd be right,
There are no Mac viruses. Period.
What there are, are trojans which can get installed by careless or reckless users. Just like you can install on virtually every OS. You can only help some users so much.
Unless you're a fool who downloads pirated software and then types in the obligatory admin password to complete a malware install, you don't need to hope anything.
If you are the kind of fool who downloads pirated software and then types in the obligatory admin password to complete a malware install, Xprotect should kick you up the arse before you get a chance, for this particular nasty.
Don't call me Shirley.
Re: Sorry, has to be said.....
That fanboi was almost certainly correct. Strictly speaking, no virus has ever been found running on a Mac.
As for other types of malware like trojans and worms, OS X can never be immune to these. Potentially, any piece of software that a user installs – or allows to be installed – could be malware.
If you allow unsolicited malware to be installed by entering an admin password when prompted, you are in trouble. Historically, flaws in Adobe Flash and Java have been exploited to fool users into doing this, one reason I don't install Flash or Java on my Macs.
As for this particular strain, the precise attack vector is still unknown. I read somewhere that it prompts for an admin password but can still do limited damage regardless – the truth of that would be very interesting to establish.
Re: Have objects automatically sling ads at us?
You've just described an ad man's wet dream there. I don't want to live in a world like that.
Re: Apples response:
He [Jobs] had a point. I went to my doctor comlpaining that my shoulder hurt from going to the gym. He said "don't do it any more". Nice!
Apple's company response (as opposed to one person's quip in an email) was somewhat different. And neither said "you're holding it wrong". But commentards can always interpret history as they like.
Re: Apples response:
Actually, the oft-misquoted Apple response was "Gripping any mobile phone will result in some attenuation of its antenna performance, with certain places being worse than others depending on the placement of the antennas".
Which isn't the happiest advice in the world. But it is at least semantically correct.
Clue: Apostrophes and adverbs exist for a reason.
No it doesn't. It suggest that you might want to use that website check the status of a specific iPhone using another iPhone. Not necessarily using the one you've just bought.
Except that you won't be able to. Because that site doesn't work on iPhone's Safari browser.
Try opening that website on an iPhone and you'll be out of luck.
One more reason (amongst very many) why I would not choose to Jailbreak an iPhone.
Re: Can I be the first to say ...
No, you can't.
I said that years ago when I won a beer-voucher in a pub quiz.
Re: Another way of looking at it...
Since you're likely to get shot in China just for reading a p0rn mag, what's the penalty for using a mobile device that doesn't have the current regulatory clearance?
Apple would already be selling the iPhone 6 in China if they had permission to do so.
The OED definition of 'slurp' has not been updated since 1993, long before mainstream adoption of the internet. Meanwhile, it has been appropriated widely in IT circles as in, for example, this 'urban definition':
To upload or download data, usually at a high rate of speed. Often used in slang to refer to illicitly gathering data -- that is, theft of somebody else's private data, trade secrets, etc.
One could reasonably expect the OED to be updated in due course, and for El Reg to be ahead of the game.
Re: Headline should read "Note 3 Twice as Strong as iPhone 6"
Open invitation to Fandroids: Go to an Apple Store and try to bend one. The staff won't stop you. I did. It didn't bend.
Jim, your down-voter is clearly in his own reality distortion field if he doesn't believe what you're saying. Life. Death. Taxes. Apple making pots of money. These are givens in today's world.
Re: "Key features disabled"?
No, no, no. Fanbois (and Fangirlz) are the Apple devotees. Fandroids are, as you say, slaves to the world of Android, and their commentard faction are typically identified by a certain frothing of the mouth, brought on by endless trawling of articles in which they claim to have no interest!
Re: "Key features disabled"?
It's the job of El Reg to 'bite the hand', and I for one enjoy its irreverent swipes at the world of IT.
On a purely personal note, I also enjoy reading the rabid rantings of Fandroids here.
What 'fact' would that be? The fact is that over-the-air maintenance has been available for years on iPhones. Connecting to a PC for maintenance is a last resort. Or maybe taking it to an Apple Store.
Re: Fantastic stuff
Well, technically, we're all "journeying through the stars". Albeit a little slowly for some.
Re: Bulk Data
"In the first six months of 2014, we received 250 or fewer of these [National Security Order] requests. Though we would like to be more specific, by law this is the most precise information we are currently allowed to disclose."
I wouldn't equate 250 with a large number.
In the same document:
"The vast majority of the requests Apple receives from law enforcement come from an agency working on behalf of a customer who has requested assistance locating a stolen device."
They charge more, BECAUSE people WILL pay more.
They will indeed. And if you can afford an iPhone, you can probably afford to pay a tad more for extra flash memory, which you will do at most once a year.
Some of the cheaper DSLR cameras that you see effectively have nobbled versions of the sensor that appears in top pro models. If everyone had full access to the sensor, cheap models included, they wouldn't be able to charge the price premium to pros.
Re: "So only users, not Apple, can grant access to law enforcement agencies."
What if you forgot your code? What if you entered your desired code incorrectly, and now have no idea what you've accidentally typed? What if your iPhone is unlocked and some joker locks it on you for laughs? Your data is safe, but beyond your own reach?
You have to enter the same lock code twice, like you are often required to do when setting up a password.
You have to enter the existing lock code before you can set a new one.
Yes, most amusing.
But I suspect that if most El Reg readers were in possession of a Fabergé egg, they wouldn't have the faintest idea what do do with it, and instead swipe the top of it with a teaspoon to get at the yolk.
For what it's worth, I don't think the iPhone 6 looks particularly wondrous.
When you enable 2FA, accept the invitation to print out the nicely formatted recovery key. That's what it's for.
Apple 'rolled out' 2-factor authentication a long long time ago. My Apple ID has been secured this way for ages.
More pertinently, and topically, is that Apple are being more reactive now when someone logs in via a device like a Windows PC. They're starting to send e-mail notifications when this happens.
They've also now introduced a means on your account of devising a clutch of app-specific passwords for third party apps that do not support 2FA. Which, they say, will be "required" come 1 October 2014.
Re: WebGL Demo
It's probably down to my clunky old graphics card on my PC.
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