I move

that El Reg refers to Jobs as 'Honest Steve' with a mandatory link on the text to a bullshitography of that mendacious megalomaniac.

When people 'copy' Apple products they tend to get carried away and add features they should have been released with like cameras, sd slot, etc... but Apple's genius is the slavish pavlovian response their customers have to every new release, hence why the monkey brained users will ditch their ipad1 for an ipad2 just cos they added the camera they deliberately omitted from #1 cos they knew they would spend again for #2. That, in any universe, is a damned clever revenue stream.

It's also why Honest Steve is probably starting to become bad for the company with his insane ranting, too.

free upgrades

Heard of them? I've not paid for a new phone in ten years or so. I don't have a need to slavishly have the newest shiny thing every month. 18 months is fine for me.

Looking forward to my next free (Android) phone in November when the upgrade is due.

Parody

Is usually allowed, too, isn't it?

BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sent from my Android phone

Over the hills and far away

the Apocalypsies come to play

20 mile bubble?

Could it be under 4 times the pressure within the well? (Or 16 times if pressure's a square relationship)

Hangon, 64 times if it's cuboid (volumetric).

Maybe they're just holding the well the wrong way...

spooky

I actually made a small dungeon once on an old Envox CTI system some years ago, was actually quite funny :o)

Utterly superb

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it's not about phonecall costs

It's about burning the telemarketer's time.

The more time they're talking to the bot, the more time they're not making a real sale, hence less revenue, less commission, less income.

Big props

Lovin' your style, RevK

Can you divert them to one of my 0845 numbers? LOL

Hangon, I'll just grab an 09xx 1.50/min line....! (I wish)

The great fresh smell of

A Festival/Cepstral project in the making :o)

Quality

Reminds me of the time I was trying to get hold of a crappy mgmnt co who were sposed to be booking our old band into a gig. They never returned phonecalls so I printed out a message in something like 120pt and taped the pages together into a 7ft sheet of paper and faxed it them.

They called that afternoon...

Nice

The post is required, and must contain letters.

no ink!

in thermal printers but that thermal paper sho' ain't cheap :o)

To be fair

Most muso's have not spent years training to grade 8 and beyond.

Most contemporary muso's have spent comparatively little time, and of those how many can read music?

Many of the 'bands' that are put out by record co's are manufactured.

A few original acts get lucky even with their obviously limited musical talents (what IS White Stripes doing with a record deal?). Some even more so if they're a vat-grown pop-thing with great tits n asses and a rackful of Antares Autotunes.

The older established bands like Metallica and U2 who have recouped the time put into their craft manyfold actually bleat the hardest about how they're being 'damaged'. No-one likes a Penthouse Pauper,

So the reality of 'recouping their hard work learning their craft' is that it's a red herring, even a McGuffin. They didn't set out to create a business model for themselves when they first picked up a guitar or a synth, and they were ludicrously starry-eyed when they thought going on xfactor would provide them with riches beyond their wildest dreams. They's still be playing guitar or going to pub karaoke even without a record deal, a record company that saw profit in them and put the marketing machine behind them and a lot of luck,

also not shoplifting

because there's no physical loss and no provable harm unless you can show empirically that a real sale had been lost.

10 razors nicked from tesco is a los of 10 razors.

1000 copies of dazzy-B vat-boy copied is not, as always seems to need pointing out, 1000 lost sales.

No matter how much the MAFIAA want you to equate it that way, It's not right or legal to copy the stuff but the case of harm is more politics than reality - it's possibly the hingepin of the entire industry's business model clinging on in its current form, which they so desperately want.

Or perhaps more usefully...

When news of some coppers being sacked for still doing it hits the news.

My preferred version.

My HTC Magic

Has survived two drops onto concrete perfectly intact.

Back came off, battery popped out is the extent of the drama here.

wtf?

The antenna actually comes *electrically* into contact with the user when they're 'holding the phone wrong'?

Christ I only got a BTEC Electronics/Electrical Eng and I know that is stupefyingly incompetent design. Not that I've done any electronics in a long time, but surely a lot of the RF energy would dump into the body of the user or there'd at least be some serious capacitive coupling issues with the user's body forming a dielectric.

We need an explanation of what A.P.P.L.E stands for ...

Appearance Pleasing, Probably Lousy Engineering ?

Yup

Nothing would upset Jobs more than having to give refunds now instead of a coupla million after a protracted class action suit.

Do it.

Except

Super Mario Galaxy from Nintendo for the Wii, of course...

And that has even cheaper components....

yup

they got the message alrighty, they were wearing their They Live shades when they read it.

NB for some - They Live, a movie, classic stuff.

Generate a tremendous charge of psychokinetic energy

Points for naming a tune and a Doctor Who episode with that quote.... anyway...

Is it me (probably not) or do all these Pavlovian apple owners live in some kind of technology bubble where only what apple says it makes is ever invented and only invented when apple release it?

I can't think of anything new except maybe for getting to mass market with a touchphone (or were they not first there either) that they have actually made. Everything else they were years behind on except perhaps marketing.

3G, sms-forwarding, video recording - all stuff my ancient Nokia 3210 does and most of its predecessors. Somehow apple fitted these to its gear as breakthrough technology.

Well. It is if you use tech that far behind the times, it's a breakthrough to THAT.

So now video calling is some kind of damned breakthrough. Jesus.

Anyway, we all know that it's nothing like even a recent breakthrough and it really pretty old hat stuff which leaves the faithful apple acolytes being sold 10-year old tech as rocket science.

Perhaps the real genius in apple's success is that they found a niche market no-one else had - selling old tech in shiny boxes to the technically illiterate and convincing them they were now somehow at the cutting edge of everything with features never before seen.

Perhaps that's why the slavering apple public leave such an unpleasant taste in my mouth. I've never suffered fools, even gladly.

Watch the apple fifty cent army jump on this one... I called them thickies.

3gs

"This time it's iOS4, which was released for some older iPhone models on Monday"

I was under the impression that the 3GS was not so old, like just about 12 months:

"Apple promised some time back that they would open their doors early for the release of the iPhone 3G S on Friday June 19 2009" ...from product-review.net site.

Though I guess any Apple product that not the latest bleeding edge version is old regardless of age.

I got a Nokia 3270 in a drawer upstairs. THAT is old.

Is it too late

To patent Patent Trolling ?

Yup

I've been to one and yes they're darn messy occasions with no chance for the bull at all. The horses take a stout kicking from the bull, too, no idea what it takes to bust a horse's rib but I reckon being bunted into the air by a pissed off/frightened half ton of bull might do it, regardless of the armour.

More like

do it right or not at all.

Three in my office

My HTC Magic, the boss & another guy both on new HTC Desire's and two more Desire's to come as others in the office have had a play with them and choosing them over iphones (which they've also tried out)