Posts by MKWeiss

200 years of recorded temps? You have conviently forgotten the years pervious...MILLIONS OF THEM!

"Ahem. Oz has been having record high years - out of 200 or so - for a while now. Glacier melting is extremely well documented. As is Arctic sea ice reduction. There certainly seems to be (no, I haven't *actually* done a statistical analysis on it) plenty of evidence that tropical storms are getting stronger, and even in good old Blighty it would appear that extreme weather events are becoming more common"

Point 1 - Forgive me but ALL --- every article, every "scientist", every activist - I have ever read, listened to, or DEBATED -- has BLATANTLY left out that this earth has under gone some DRASTIC changes in climate over it's estimated lifetime (SOURCE 1). I dare to be alive when all continents were pushed together know as Pangia and the great line of volcanoes started pushing it apart to now create the great mountain range under the Atlantic ocean. What do all the supporters of AGW say about that? Where were humans then? We were but mere blips on the evolutionary chain. AND the last great ICE age Geologists state that the climate had some "ABRUPT" disruptions and oscillations in to that went from 80,000-18,000 years ago (SOURCE 2)...that's a difference of 62,000 YEARS! And y'all want to go on just 200 years of RECORDED temps! As my "friend" across the pond would say, "RUBBISH!!!!"

Some scientists are even saying we may have experienced a "mini-ice age" that lead to (14th century AD - 19th century) drastic changes in temps in Europe over a few hundred years (SOURCE 5). Evidence the failing of crops, famine, and the black plague. FORGIVE ME AGAIN AGW advocates but I don't believe WE, humans started the industrial age until Brittan in the late 1700's (SOURCE 3).

Point 2 - Solar Science is still in its infancy. We have just recently been able to closely study the Sun, it's cyclic sun spots, and the massive solar flares that bombard our little planet. We are still unsure just how much this thing (the SUN) effects our satellites let alone our "weather" and climate. We now have better resolution cameras to see more accurately (circa 2013 SOURCE 6) Some of these phenomena that we still don't fully understand. Give it 50 years and we'll be 10,000 more times accurate than now. And these Solar Scientists may just laugh at our mundane belief that CO2 is hurting the planet. It may just be building up our atmosphere to insulate us from major solar winds and flares...who really knows?

YOU conveniently forget the MILLIONS of years of climate this earth has undergone. (SOURCE 4). You turn a blind eye to any conflicting scientific evidence. Page 2 really does state it all correctly. If you follow the money ..."global warming" is a political ploy to warp your minds and get money and/ or support out of you to pad Politicians pockets and give them some dooms-day rhetoric to distract you from real problems we currently face. What have they ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED GLOBALLY to STOP/REDUCE CO2 emissions?

Please, please, please STOP this nonsense! Look OUTSIDE your moment of existence on this planet to realize there is WAY more to our PHENOMENAL planet and SOLAR SYSTEM than ANY of you humans will EVER understand let alone solely influence.

SOURCE 1: http://www.nps.gov/iatr/index.htm

A mere 15,000 years ago during the Ice Age, much of North America lay under a huge glacier. Mammoths, saber tooth cats and cave lions roamed the earth! Some of the best evidence of this glacier is found in Wisconsin such as the state’s many lakes, river valleys, gently rolling hills, and ridges. The nearly 1,200 mile Ice Age National Scenic Trail, established in 1980, traces the glacier's edge.

SOURCE 2: http://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/abrupt-climate-change-during-the-last-ice-24288097

Unlike the relatively stable climate Earth has experienced over the last 10,000 years, Earth's climate system underwent a series of abrupt oscillations and reorganizations during the last ice age between 18,000 and 80,000 years ago (Dansgaard 1984, Bond et al. 1997, 1999). These climate fluctuations were first discovered when scientists reconstructed past temperature variability over Greenland by analyzing tiny changes in the relative abundance of the oxygen-16 isotope versus the oxygen-18 isotope (noted as δ18O and reported in parts per thousand) in ice cores recovered from Greenland glaciers. Each successively deeper ice layer represents a snapshot of Earth's climate history from the past, and together, the oxygen isotope record told a story of abrupt, millennial-scale climate shifts in air temperatures over Greenland between extremely cold stadial conditions and relatively mild interstadial periods during the last ice age (Figure 1) (Alley 2000, Alley et al. 2003). There are twenty-five of these distinct warming-cooling oscillations (Dansgaard 1984) which are now commonly referred to as Dansgaard-Oeschger cycles, or D-O cycles. One of the most surprising findings was that the shifts from cold stadials to the warm interstadial intervals occurred in a matter of decades, with air temperatures over Greenland rapidly warming 8 to 15°C (Huber et al. 2006). Furthermore, the cooling occurred much more gradually, giving these events a saw-tooth shape in climate records from most of the Northern Hemisphere (Figure 1).

SOURCE 3:http://www.history.com/topics/industrial-revolution

The Industrial Revolution, which took place from the 18th to 19th centuries, was a period during which predominantly agrarian, rural societies in Europe and America became industrial and urban. Prior to the Industrial Revolution, which began in Britain in the late 1700s, manufacturing was often done in people’s homes, using hand tools or basic machines. Industrialization marked a shift to powered, special-purpose machinery, factories and mass production. The iron and textile industries, along with the development of the steam engine, played central roles in the Industrial Revolution, which also saw improved systems of transportation, communication and banking. While industrialization brought about an increased volume and variety of manufactured goods and an improved standard of living for some, it also resulted in often grim employment and living conditions for the poor and working classes.

SOURCE 4:http://www.geosociety.org/positions/position10.htm

The geologic record contains unequivocal evidence of former climate change, including periods of greater warmth with limited polar ice, and colder intervals with more widespread glaciation. These and other changes were accompanied by major shifts in species and ecosystems. Paleoclimatic research has demonstrated that these major changes in climate and biota are associated with significant changes in climate forcing such as continental positions and topography, patterns of ocean circulation, the greenhouse gas composition of the atmosphere, and the distribution and amount of solar energy at the top of the atmosphere caused by changes in Earth's orbit and the evolution of the sun as a main sequence star. Cyclic changes in ice volume during glacial periods over the last three million years have been correlated to orbital cycles and changes in greenhouse gas concentrations, but may also reflect internal responses generated by large ice sheets. This rich history of Earth's climate has been used as one of several key sources of information for assessing the predictive capabilities of modern climate models. The testing of increasingly sophisticated climate models by comparison to geologic proxies is continuing, leading to refinement of hypotheses and improved understanding of the drivers of past and current climate change.

SOURCE 5:http://www.eh-resources.org/timeline/timeline_lia.html

The Little Ice Age is a period between about 1300 and 1870 during which Europe and North America were subjected to much colder winters than during the 20th century. The period can be divided in two phases, the first beginning around 1300 and continuing until the late 1400s. There was a slightly warmer period in the 1500s, after which the climate deteriorated substantially. The period between 1600 and 1800 marks the height of the Little Ice Age. The period was characterised by the expansion of European trade and the formation of European sea born Empires. This was directly linked to advances in technology harnessing more of nature's power and towards the end of the period fossil-fuelled power. These two hundred years also saw the specialisation of agricultural regions, which produced specific products for local and international markets.

SOURCE 6:http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/aerospace/astrophysics/iris-eyes-the-sun-shakes-up-solar-science

New high-speed, high-resolution spectrographic images from IRIS reveal the structure and motion of the Sun's little-understood transitional region with never-before-seen detail.

The first images from NASA’s latest solar observing satellite are in, and they show unprecedented detail—and unexpected complexity—in the roiling lower layers of the Sun’s atmosphere. Already, the images have revealed a previously-unseen fibrous inner structure of many solar features, including the familiar earth-size prominences that can erupt into solar flares and the less-well-known, 500-kilometer-wide spicules that jet up into the corona at speeds of 20 km/s.

Although the data has just started to come in, the early results are enough to challenge the current numerical models of solar behavior.

The pictures from the IRIS (Interface Region Imaging Spectrograph) Observatory, launched 27 June this year, capture images that are sharply defined in space, time, and wavelength. The instrument combines an ultraviolet telescope with a high-precision spectrograph. The imager can resolve solar features 250 km in diameter (see the comparison photos below). The spectral data is used to calculate the atmosphere’s temperature and, thanks to Doppler shifts, its detailed motion (to within one kilometer per second).