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Bravo the Appeals Court!
At last someone is starting to apply a little common sense to this "problem" and realising that criminalising kids for doing what kids do (you show me yours...) helps nobody!
Gamble's Empire Building again...
Jim Gamble (the man who brought you Operation Ore) wants to get Facebook to sign up because it will make his CEOP Empire a bit bigger since he can then say to everyone else "Well Facebook have signed up to this, so if they can do it, you can too, and it's For The Children!"
He probably won't be happy until every site that a child might access has a "We love CEOP" button on it and then he'll know his job is secure because they'll be inundated with thousands of spurious reports which they'll have to investigate.
Perish the thought that we might actually try *educating* children about the online risks instead of just passing more stupid legislation which will protect nobody...
... it's not Presumed Innocent Until Proven Guilty, but "presumed guilty unless you can prove your innocence"...
... Vote Fascist for a Third Glorious Decade of Total Law Enforcement!
"trial to test crisis management procedures"
Well now they've got a media crisis to manage, so I guess it sort of worked...
Paris because... ;-)
"the government advised....
"...that the proposal would be legally unenforceable."
Wow! There's a first time for everything!
Oh, but, hang on, what they meant was that *someone else's* proposal would be legally unenforceable, not one of their own...
If you don't vote you can't complain when things don't go your way.
I recently had an election missive through the door from the Tories. In it there was a mini-questionnaire which said "Which of these Tory policies do you support?"
Err, excuse me? Where's the option for "None of the above"? Where's the option to say "Just because I may have voted for you does not mean I support all of your policies"? In fact where is there *anything* that lets us do more than vote for a particular coloured rosette but which allows whoever gets the most seats to claim that they now now have a mandate from the people to do X, Y and Z because one vote covers *everything* in their manifesto.
Representative Democracy? Not in this country!
"people who are "socially disadvantaged"
That would be all the people who are now unemployed because of El Gordo's inability to understand what happens when you try to fund Growth through Debt without actually *producing* anything...
Has anyone tried explaingin databses to _civil servants_?
"It's all done by magic pixies"
Bad idea if (when) taken too far...
> all people have to do to keep porn off their machines is block all .xxx domains. If, as an existing "provider", you don't nab the .xxx when given the shot you lose the ability to resolve the site.
And, once again, I ask what happens to adult businesses like mine which deals in leather bondage gear and, thus, has adult content, but does not deal in "porn"?
Not forgetting, of course, the massive rush there will be to register sex.xxx or xxx.xxx etc, plus the cyber-squatters getting in on the act who will no doubt try to register affordable-leather.xxx and sell it to me for a hefty commission because I own the .co.uk version of it.
Now I am six...
So, six years ago, she supported Labour. Big deal.
Perhaps we could see some comments about Edward McMillan-Scott who was once the leader of the Conservative MEPs in the European Parliament, who has recently defected to the Lib Dems...?
Oh, but of course, people there are too interested in sniggering like like school boys.
I think you'll find...
... that she *was* a Labour supporter until they started turning into the Thought Police and banning anything that they didn't like simply because they didn't like it.
Best of luck to her!
Perhaps if we have a few more people with actual real world experience in Parliament instead of the current clueless bunch of toffs and lawyers and ex-activists we might actually get some sense out of the place.
It's one of those "irregular verbs"
We protect freedom,
You infringe rights,
They repress people.
Let's not forget about the accounts being used for...
... perfectly legal and legitimate purposes.
Once again we see the classic argument of "let's treat *everyone* as potential criminals in the hope that we'll catch a few wrongdoers in our widely spread net".
Of course all that happens is that the wrongdoers go somewhere else, meanwhile the innocent have their liberties and privacy trampled on (something which people fought a war to prevent!)
It may be dangerous...
... but so are a lot of things.
At what point should the Nanny State step in and day "No, you can't do that because it's too dangerous for you"?
... and because I never blasted out my eardrums at discos etc, I can hear the damn things too.
Thank the gods there's none of them around my area, otherwise I'd be walking into shops "protected" by them and informing them that they've just lost my custom!
I can see my house from here...!
Well, I can see what anyone walking or driving past my house can see.
And even though I have very strong views on civil liberties (or perhaps that should be because) I don't see anything wrong with allowing people to take photographs in a public place.
Do you? (See "I'm a photographer, not a terrorist" on facebook for more details)
Re: Nothing to do with democracy
You got the title right, our current system has *nothing* to do with democracy! As you say: "you delegated to them the authority to vote on your behalf. Only problem is that they rarely do..."
MPs are supposed to *represent* the views of their constituents in Parliament, unfortunately what most of them tend to do is represent the views of their Party Leaders and Whips to their constituents and basically say "that's how it is, like it or lump it".
Cameron and his ilk are currently campaigning on an effective slogan of "Vote for us, because we're not them" and telling people that voting for anyone else is a vote for another 5 years of Gordon Brown which sounds like desperation coupled with a lack of anything that makes them actually worth electing.
IMO the only hope we have of getting any representation back into our electoral process is to tactically vote for a Hung Parliament so one party doesn't have a "majority" (even when they only got a minority of the vote) giving the ability to force through whatever legislation they like.
HDM obviously hasn't heard of the maxim...
... when you're in a hole: STOP DIGGING!
What's the betting...
... he found the data left on a train...?
"can take prints from suspects"
As far as I understand it, unless I have been arrested or believed to be committing Anti-Social Behaviour or am driving a car, I am not required to identify myself to a Police Officer.
Being "a suspect" isn't enough for them to demand my identity, let alone my fingerprints!
Another statement from the Department of the Bleedin' Obvious
Most people don't like emotionally manipulative adverts and "guilt trip" messages and thus such things fail to achieve their aims.
Who would have believed it...
May I be the first to welcome...
... the people of Hull must be feeling *so* happy that they have got a newspaper like this selflessly defending them from perversion!
(The fact that their Classified Ads section contains ads from Escort Agencies is an irrelevant detail, of course...)
Probably just a co-incidence...
... but the registration starts H2G2...
(Mine's the one with the towel in the pocket)
... what have the Police done (if anything) to inform the owners of those 12 million computers that their systems have been compromised?
Monty Python Universe Song Quote here
If you have a nice car in the drive or a TV that can be seen or whatever, I suggest you contact your local Crime Prevention Officer who will tell you some simple measures which will help prevent you becoming a victim of crime instead of sticking up a sign saying "I've got expensive stuff, rob me!"
It makes no odds whether the crooks walk past and eyeball your place or use Street View if it can be seen and they're more likely to physically walk past because for the Street View images become more out of date with every day that passes.
Don't read this post!
This post is private, you do not have my permission to read it.
The fact that it's in a public forum and visible to anyone who cares to look here is irrelevant.
In the same way you're not allowed to look at my house, neither is Google because you and they will be invading my privacy.
Oh, and I think that that the Police should be allowed to arrest anyone who takes a photograph of my house without my permission or a picture of me walking down the street.
Of course if they should arrest me for taking a photograph of a public landmark because they think I might be a terrorist, well, that's ok too.
"mag strip dumps"?
No, that will be in three or four days...
"[...] incompatible with Internet Explorer 8"?
Why does this remind me of the comment by the guy from the Dolmansaxlil Shoe Corporation in the Hitch-Hiker's Guide:
"His feet are the wrong size for his shoes."
I need one of those like I need a hole in my head...
(Mine's the one with the mirror shades in the pocket)
It's a start...
... now we need to see this sort of sensible thinking extended over the rest of the EU (and eventually Britain) so all the unnecessary, represessive "Big Brother Is Watching You" laws brought in to "protect us" from the Terrorist bogeyman are rolled back...
...alongside cream-splattered beach strumpet Pamela Anderson.
I'd vote for that! (It would certainly make at least one part of the show worth watching...)
"... was to be looked on as a slightly disgusting minor operation, like having an enema."
George Orwell - 1984
You'd better pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space...
... because there's bugger all down here on Earth!
- Monty Python.
... So more rubbish legislation gets passed without adequate examination, let alone proper debate by our elected representatives, instead it's the Party Elite who decide what's best for the country based on what will make *them* look good in the polls.
The real "wash up" that Parliament needs is someone to clean out the Augean Stables and get rid of all these crappy "nod and a wink" established procedures which have damn all to do with any democratic process.
Remember, Nanny Knows Best!
Now don't you worry your pretty little heads about all this dirty filth and smut out there, Nanny's going to wave her magic legislative wand and make it all go away!
And don't worry that other people might get caught by this, obviously they're just perverts who obviously can't be trusted and we'll be getting around to them soon...
Mandy accused of screwing small biz
Bear, woods,.Pope, Catholic... you know the rest.
pointless and derivative type of apps
Sorry, have you actually looked at some of the rubbish that's already available?
And you approve of Apple tying themselves up in knots (oops!) trying to decide what sort of content they should or shouldn't allow to presumably "protect the integrity of their brand"?
Go away, troll.
This doesn't just "check for convictions" (which is sensible) it relies on gossip, innuendo and unfounded and unproven (and possibly malicious) accusations.
Consider for a moment what would happen if you worked with kids and someone (as a sick and ill-advised "joke") sent you a copy of one of those cartoons of Lisa Simpson engaged in sexual activity (which, of course, are soon to be illegal) and your supervisor or a parent saw it on your laptop or phone and reported it. That would be "significant information" as far as this law is concerned and could result in you losing your job and being banned from ever working with "vulnerable groups" again, even though you have never and would never harm a child.
Meanwhile someone like Vanessa George who was taking photos of children in the Devon Nursery where she worked would have been considered "safe" until such time as she was actually caught and convicted.
*That* is what is so stupid about another pointless, knee-jerk, "something must be done" piece of legislation from a clueless Government.
The Home Office also responded...
... saying "Stop making our regulations look stupid! (Even though they are)"
"this law is, to a great degree, unenforceable"
What? A nonsensical and unenforceable law? Never...!
What ever will they do next?
I think you mean "Cluster Fuck"!
And what about the grey areas?
I run a business making leather bondage gear. Whilst my site www.affordable-leather.co.uk has adult content (and appropriate warnings, is signed up to Net Nanny, Cyber Sitter et al) and is clearly not suitable for children, it's not "pornography", so should I be forced to dump my old domain (and have to re-do all my advertising and get all the links changed) to make it www.affordable-leather.xxx?
If not, what possible use is a .xxx TLD going to achieve except big commissions for the bidding war that will no doubt ensue for domains like sex.xxx and xxx.xxx which will probably sell for millions?
Re: The Freedom Bill
Vince Cable for the Lib Dems is offering to answer questions from the public and there's one that says "How will you roll back the unnecessary attacks on personal liberties that Labour have introduced or planned under the guise of "protecting us" eg ID Cards, DNA databases, criminalisation of images of consenting adults, CCTV and ANPR etc?"
You can vote for this question here:
You miss the point.
Are you really so naiive as to think that once this subsidised roll-out of rural broadband is complete the Government would then go "Oh, ok, that's done, let's scrapt the tax"?
They'll find another excuse to keep it (probably to run an online "child protection" service or some such) and then, to cover the extra "administration costs" bump it up to 75p, then a quid and once more the frog gets boiled.
"has no such plans" != "won't"
Big Brother icon: enough said.
... they *can't* do that, we've made jammers illegal! We know that banning something means that people won't do it, don't we, boys and girls?
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