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I can see now that it is utterly pointless trying to have a reasonable debate with you. Anything that doesn't fit in with your preconceived ideas is either dismissed or ridiculed with childish comments about "bleaters" or nonsensical assumptions about other posters' motivations.
You ignore anything that you don't agree with and when someone demonstrates you are mistaken you try to shift the goal posts and then claim that you have "proved" that the other person is wrong.
Your argument above about the RoE is a perfect example, how exactly was shooting up people (including children) trying to help wounded "protecting" the soldiers on the ground? How exactly were they "threatening" to their comrades' safety? They weren't of course, but that's not your problem, is it?
And as for I "don't just hold the lives of armed militia as more value than those of the US soldiers on the ground" the Rules of Warfare don't make anyone standing nearby someone who may be carrying a weapon a fair target, unless, of course, you're in the US and can use the words "Collateral Damage" to mean "murdering innocent people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time".
Please feel free to get the last word in this thread, I've wasted enough time on someone who isn't willing to listen to any other opinion than his own.
Re: RE: @Matt Bryant
No, I can't say *exactly* how many times he was woken, however quoting from the New Statesman:
"At night, Manning is stripped to his underwear and has to sleep under blankets that he says give him carpet burn. He is usually woken several times throughout the night by guards."
Now are you saying that the New Statesman Magazine is just another "bleater"?
You claim that "I think you'll find the logs were made available to the prosecution", yet despite searching, I can't find any factual basis for this and, in any case, why would the *prosecution* want to see the logs? It's is the *defence* who need them!
What I have found, however, is that "A Freedom of Information Act request for documents on accused whistleblower to WikiLeaks Pfc. Bradley Manning’s treatment at Quantico Marine brig, filed by POLITICO, reveals on multiple occasions Manning was recommended for removal from “prevention of injury” (POI) status by psychiatrists and psychologists but was not removed."
So medical officers and doctors said that Manning wasn't a suicide risk, yet those who were holding him decided to keep him on that status anyway.
Oh and as regards "If his vision was that bad without glasses he would never have been accepted for service!" a little bit of searching has found that bad eyesight does not preclude someone from joining the US Army as long as their *corrected* vision with glasses passes the required standard. But let me guess, you don't need glasses, because if you did you'd understand what it's like to have everything more than a short distance in front of you rendered as a vague blur.
And finally as for "HIS ACTIONS PUT HIM WHERE HE IS NOW", might I remind you of the principle of presumption of innocence?
Oh deary, deary me, Matt Bryant.
Please do a little more thinking before going off on another of your little tirades.
There is a *big* difference between the "we were only obeying orders when we tortured detainess" defence and the "we were following the Rules of Engagement, honest!" defence.
Trying to equate the two to justify the US Military's exoneration of the Apache helicopter crew for murdering innocent people (including those trying to assist the killed and wounded who were clearly *not* a threat) is simply ridiculous.
Re: RE: Only following orders?
So the US Military investigates the actions of the US Military and one part of the US Military decides that the other part of the US Military hasn't committed a war crime!
I hope that Manning's lawyers are sharper than you in spotting a blatant conflict of interest.
My mistake, it wasn't every fifteen minutes, it was every *five* minutes that the guards were supposed to check on him and they were authorised to wake him to check he was ok any time at which they couldn't see his face.
You can find this information here: http://www.bradleymanning.org/news/manning-removed-from-two-day-suicide-watch-attorney-files-complaint-calls-action-punitive
Are you suicidal? No? Ok.
(Waits 15 minutes...)
Are you suicidal now? No? Ok.
(Waits another 15 minutes...)
Are you suicidal yet?
(Waits another 15 minutes...)
Now imagine keeping that up for a day, two days, three days...
If you weren't suicidal at the start, you'd sure as hell be thinking about it after a few days.
And about time too!
The military have played all their little mind games, trying to break him down with ridiculous "suicide watch" behaviour etc, now it's time to find out how weak their case really is.
(PS to the El Reg Mods: The first post in this thread has presumably been marked for deletion so I can't downvote it or reply to it, but it still appears at the moment...)
... and surely, they drew their plans against us!
This reminds me of...
... the Acorn Microcomputer (AKA System 1) which I played about with in school learning a bit of 6502 machine code!
See http://speleotrove.com/acorn/ for details.
But have they found the Underhenge yet...
... and what about the Pandorica?
(PS: Yes, I know...!)
... so you mean: "WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!"
The Liberator was the DSV 2 built by "The System"
(Yes, that's my anorak!)
"Star Trek: Voyager took ships into CG and they tended to take on a certain sleeker look over this period such as Babylon 5"
B5 predated Voyager and was using CGI ships with the rendering being done on Amigas!
Or perhaps a Knife Missile?!
You're probably looking for something broadcast by South Today as Penny Mordaunt, MP for Portsmouth North raised this matter in Parliament regarding the seats in the 450 class as operated by South West trains which are ridiculously small (16.9 inches wide, ie smaller than my keyboard!)
IIRC to get the requisite certificate to carry a set number of passengers, the manufacturers have to demonstrate that the aeroplane can be evacuated in 90 seconds.
Perhaps there should be a requirement that the passenger manifest should contain at least two lard-arses to block seat rows and aisles which should ensure that there's adequate space for everyone!
@Engine on a stick
Yes, the Liberator was based on a cordless microphone, however originally it was intended to fly the opposite way ie with what became the "green bulb" engine at the front.
Fortunately Terry Nation decided it should go the other direction and thus created one of the most iconic ships ever.
So, no longer Trial by Tabloid...
... now it will be Trial By Twitter.
PC 456 tweets: Spoke to man after complaints of someone hanging around near childrens' playground.
Daily Mail reader nearby re-tweets this and says "I saw the Policeman talking to Fred Bloggs from down the road, he must be a kiddy fiddler"!
The fact that Mr Bloggs was waiting for his ex-wife to deliver their kid because they have joint custody and the PC accepted this explanation doesn't get out there and Mr Bloggs now has his reputation besmirched.
"How *dare* these plebs think that they should have a say in the decision making process? They should enjoy the Bread and Circuses of the Dole and X-Factor and not worry their little heads about things that are above them...!"
Yes, writing to your MP might (depending on who they are) get a response, but why should it be necessary when all you want to say is "I agree with this"? Just because the web makes creating a petition and getting people to sign it easier doesn't make it any less valid than one signed by people in the street.
Of course the fact is that many Ministers like Simon Burns are so arrogant that they don't think they have to listen to the general public in the first place, so whatever sort of petition you raise, it will still be ignored.
I notice that your post above has three Upvotes, so that's three people who are basically agreeing with "Wot 'e said".
So please allow me to be the voice of dissent (or "Not wot 'e said") as I Downvote you.
There is a difference between elective surgery and that which is medially necessary. The former can be thought about, considered and then the patient can make a decision as to whether to go ahead with it or not, in the latter case a decision may have to be made quickly (either by the patient or an appropriate medical professional) to save someone's life.
Groupon shouldn't even be anywhere near either of these.
Please can you try to comprehend the difference between the selective breeding of plants and animals to reinforce (or remove) traits that are already present in that species and using recombinant DNA techniques to splice in gene sequences from entirely unrelated species.
... != Genetic Modification.
Re: "Being a dominatrix is, er, an acquired skill?"
Most definitely. Regrettably, due to the influence of bad films, bad TV and bad fiction, many "working ladies" seem to have the idea that all you need to do is put on a corset and a pair of thigh boots and stamp around shouting and hitting someone with a whip.
The actual professional ladies (many of whom are customers of mine!) deride these people for their lack of competence and also for them bringing the whole idea of Safe, Sane and Consensual Domination into disrepute.
What it's like now...
I stopped taking a stall at Erotica back in 2003 and I've never regretted it.
The organisers are simply interested in how much money they can get from stall holders and punters and they long ago priced almost all the niche suppliers out of exhibiting. Now what you have is a cross between a glorified Ann Summers shop and totally irrelevant stalls eg tooth-whitening products made an appearance again!
Oh and next year's show is going to be held in the smaller National Hall instead of Olympia 2 because there are simply no longer enough people willing to pay the exhorbitant prices that Erotica are asking and the owners of Olympia won't let them make the aisles any larger. (If you went up to the gallery level and looked down you could see huge areas of empty carpet which, in long-ago years would have been filled with stalls).
Oh dear, I suggest you re-read my post (especially that last part in brackets) with your Irony Detector switched on!
... is not to increase food production, it is to *decrease* population growth!
Real world evidence has shown that improved education (especially of women) and making birth control easily available has had the clear and visible effect of stabilising populations, *that* is where the money should be focused.
(That and telling the Catholic Church to realise that when God said "Go forth and multiply and fill the Earth", he didn't say that a message would subsequently appear in the sky saying "The Earth is now full, please delete any unnecessary people..."!)
"Benny Hill tune"
ITYM Yakety Sax, popularised by Boots Randolph.
The book which should have been stored in a locked cabinet...
... in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "Beware of the Leopard"?
This is the voice...
... of the Mysterons. We know that you can hear us Earthmen.
Cease sending your spy probes to our planet or face our revenge!
Da-da dah da-da-da dum!
"ape American traditions"
Try doing a bit more research.
Trick or Treating comes from the old tradition of "Guising" (as in disguise) which dates back to at least the end of the 19th century in Scotland and Ireland and versions are known from much earlier eg in the Middle Ages such as in the form of Christmas Wassailing.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trick-or-treating for more details.
... will it display 6502 assembler like the T-800 did?
So is someone going to develop...
... a robot coyote to chase it?
Hmm, nah, it would be doomed to failure from the start, especially if it was built by Acme Corporation!
"a solution in search of a problem."
That's what they said about the laser...!
Calm down dear...
... it's only a survey...!
If you just want peace and quiet...
... a set of Howard Leight foam earplugs give 30db noise reduction and cost a couple of quid from motorbike shops :-)
Since McKinnon didn't cause the deaths of hundreds in the US, the question is irrelevant.
The Americans are being completely ridiculous, exaggerating the cost of fixing their own security holes so they can parlay that into charges under a law that are only justified if they make stupid claims on how much "damage" was caused and the demanding to extradite McKinnon to cover their own backsides based on a one-sided treaty that should be thrown out by our Government.
Anything else is just smoke and mirrors.
1) How many people died as a result of McKinnon's actions? How many died in Lockerbie as a result of the bomb? Do the words "sense of proportion" mean anything to you?
2) American law allows them to go into another country, commit a criminal act (kidnapping) and take someone back to America to be tried. The perpetrators of the kidnapping are not tried for any offence and the courts don't care *how* the suspect was brought there.
3) The current extradition treaty just requires *suspicion* from the US, but *proof* from the UK. Not exactly equitable, is it?
4) How would you like to be offered a "deal" where you're told "come and be tried in our country and plead guilty and we'll let you serve your sentence in your own country, refuse and if we get our hands on you we'll throw away the key"? Whatever happened to the concept of a fair trial or the presumption of innocence?
Now I'm going to downvote you.
... the beatings will continue until morale improves...!
Good for them!
The .XXX domain has been a scam from the outset, akin to an old-fashioned Protection Racket ("Nice domain you have here, Squire, be a shame if anything happened to it, know what I mean?")
When you have both sides of the porn debate agreeing that it's a bad idea, it's clear something is wrong, but ICANN and ICM are only interested in the money.
... what are the Village People doing there? (Apart from seemingly encouraging a flash mob performance of YMCA...!)
... did anyone detect a squeaky voice saying "Let's go!"
Trip of a lifetime...?
$102,000 and it's Beer o'Clock...!
... which country is he going to be tried in...?!
Ah, but you've got to remember that in the US you can vote for the Right Wing Party or the *REALLY* Right Wing Party, so anyone who even slightly drifts towards the centre is, by some weird sort of fuzzy logic, at least a Socialist if not an out and out Left Wing Pinko Commie!
Sigh, I didn't say "you can't complain unless you can do better yourself". Read Mike JVX's post, he got the point I was making.
"New human-brain chip can be adjusted for cannabis effect"
And I thought that this would be about Wireheading from Larry Niven's Known Space books...!
Yep, The Cardinal of the Kremlin. (It was called Fan Dance, although probably not in reference to Sally Rand's classic act! ;-) )
The advert is discriminatory...
... to goats because none of them were offered the position!
I'll just trit-trot along now...
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