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Snowden wants YOU – yes, YOU – to build spy-busting tech

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Cue the usual...

... "Won't Someone Think of the PaedoTerrorists" arguments from those who think that the only way to keep us "safe" is for us to be obedient sheeple and not worry about the Government and Security Services from trying to spy on everything we do and everything we say and find out everyone we talk to and monitor everything we read "Just in Case" we might do something bad at some point.

It's not as if there's any risk of False Positives or mis-reading of the data or mistakes being made that result in innocent people being arrested, let alone charged because they have a name similar to someone else's or they just happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Of course we shouldn't worry about this. Of course it's not a violation of our Civil Liberties and Human Rights. Of course it doesn't do us any harm because obviously we're not important enough for them to actually pay any attention to, so it's ok to let them keep doing it. And anyway, we don't have anything do hide, do we, so we have nothing to fear...

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There's NOTHING on TV in Europe – American video DOMINATES

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Quantity != Quality

Remember we get the *best* of US Television over here. If you search through enough dross you may find a few nuggest of gold...

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British cops cuff 660 suspected paedophiles

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@ Faye Kane ♀ girl brain

Can I suggest that you put the name of the person you're responding to in the title of your comments as the El Reg forums do not do threading so it's difficult to know who the reply is directed at.

PS FYI I agree with a lot of your points :-)

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@AC - Re: for some definition of paedophile...

> Australia has a couple of humdingers where people have been prosecuted for possessing child porn cartoons, which is the very definition of a victimless crime.

Even better, at least a couple of them were for possession of pictures of Bart and Lisa Simpson! See this article from El Reg in 2010

Oh, BTW, whilst using google to look up that link, the first result that came up is an Ad from Google "Warning - Child abuse imagery is illegal‎"! Probably got myself added to another watch list...

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@Sergey 1 - Re: Hmmm

> Speaking of paedos, wasn't a paediatrician killed by an angry mob in Wales for being a paedo... atrician?

No, but her house was daubed with graffiti.

See details of the Yvette Cloete case here.

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Re: @Ross K - for some definition of paedophile...

> God, I wish The Register had some kind of ignore list so I didn't have to come across you again - it's getting kind of tedious.

Yes, I've noticed that some people on here don't like it when people actually *question* their viewpoints and point out the blatant flaws in their arguments.

The witch burnings are over there on the Daily Mail pages --->

Oh and another PS: See this article: "Today's Facebook fury: Coppertone-like baby pic ban baffles US mom" from El Reg just last week.

I'm sure that that ban resulted from the actions of "reasonable" people too...

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Re: @Ross K - for some definition of paedophile...

The word "reasonably" would laughable in this context if it wasn't such a fraught subject, because it is blatantly obvious that this is a subject about which it is virtually *impossible* to hold a "reasonable" discussion of!

The average man in the street/ on the Clapham Omnibus etc has had their viewpoint of the subject so skewed by the witch-burning tabloids and the like that even nearly a decade ago we had the nonsense of Julia Somerville being questioned by the Police over nude photos of her daughter in the bath

Now with the whole Jimmy Saville/ Rolf Harris/ whoever case, do you *really* think that things have or will change at all? The "reasonable" person in the street will see "naked child - child porn".

And don't forget that on the COPINE Scale even images that show "Non-erotic and non-sexualised pictures showing children in their underwear, swimming costumes from either commercial sources or family albums. Pictures of children playing in normal settings, in which the context or organisation of pictures by the collector indicates inappropriateness" are can be rated as Class 1 Child Pornography if someone else considers that they are "inappropriately" connected with other images.

> You're highly unlikely to be prosecuted for the possession of anime, or a book for grown-ups with words instead of pictures.

"Highly unlikely" (in your opinion) != "Not going to happen" and it doesn't even matter if you're *not* prosecuted for it because if someone is even *arrested* on suspicion, that's enough for some people who will think "there's no smoke without fire" and will ostracise them, fire them, ruin their lives and their careers...

That is the sad state of affairs that the "Won't Someone Think of the Children" mentality has got us into.

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Oh, PS, I've just seen the following from you...

> Judging by the downvoting of posts condemning child porn, it would indeed seem like there are more than a few deviants on here who like that kind of thing.

So much for "reasonable"! They disagree with your points, therefore they're into child porn...

I rest my case.

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Re: @Ross K - for some definition of paedophile...

> Just so I'm clear - you're ok with pornographic images of children as long as they're not in photographic format?

No, and please don't try to use Straw Man arguments like that on me, I get enough of them from a certain other poster...

Since you seem to be at least passingly familiar with the law you will also know that it is (as I alluded to in my post) already an offence to have drawn images which were eg traced from a photograph and I don't have a problem with that, because that was actually abuse of a child.

What I *do* have a problem with is laws criminalising something based on someone's completely subjective impression of what a fictitious image looks like or, indeed, if some in government get their way, a fictional *description*, which could end up with possession Nabakov's Lolita being a criminal offence!

That is going into the realms of Thought Crime.

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@Ross K - Re: for some definition of paedophile...

> I believe the line of thinking is that if you "just" look at images of child abuse, you're enabling the creator of the content - a child has to be abused for the image to be created.

Yes, of course, that is why it is now a crime to possess images such as those in the Japanese Manga and Anime "Big Eyes, Small Mouth" style which are *drawings* that are completely fictitious, that were *never* based on photographs or video of actual acts, but, none the less, will get you arrested because the imaginary participants *look* like children to Western eyes and that's enough for the Tabloid reading public to demand that "Something Must Be Done!" and our Governments are entirely happy to oblige them.

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@AC - Re: for some definition of paedophile...

> if the lack of advertising (which is pretty much what it is) for child abuse means that one less child is molested by someone that's a win in my book.

Right, because children were never abused *before* the advent of the internet or before the invention of photography or before...

The fact still remains that most abuse is perpetrated by a close family member or someone who is known to the child and that has and will still happen whether there are pictures out there or not.

Unfortunately, meanwhile, we get people trotting out the "if XYZ can stop one child fewer from being molested it's a good thing" argument which is then used as a justification by TPTB for more laws and more censorship and Default-on blocking software with secret lists of "unacceptable" websites all based on the cry of "Won't Someone Think of the Children!"

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Fear a terrifying killer robot revolution? GET A GRIP: Boffins invent cyborg hand for humans

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Just be careful...

... A certain (ahem) "accident" that Howard Wolowitz suffered comes (painfully!) to mind..

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Cops nab suspect using CREEPY facial recog system

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@SoltanGris - Re: innocent or guilty

> RE: Evil Auditor on getting mug shots of 'innocent' people.

> Every time I've had my picture taking for :

The point is that those images are suppose (in this country at least) to *only* be used for a specified purpose, not a general CCTV surveillance dragnet.

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@AC - Re: Why do the words...

But it's enough to get you arrested and for some people that's suffienciet for them to assume that you must be guilty of *something*, followed by your job, career, reputation or family life disappearing up the Swanee...

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Why do the words...

... False Positive keep coming to mind...?

(Big Brother because there's no Kafka icon)

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Re: innocent or guilty

The creepy part is not this facial recognition system and that they keep mug shots of innocent people.

FTFY

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L33t haxxors compete to p0wn popular home routers

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And bad advice...

When I got my new Virgin Broadband/ WiFi router the guy from Virgin told me "Don't change the default password because if you forget it and something goes wrong we won't be able to help you fix it and you'll have to call out an engineer or get a replacement..."

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FORGOTTEN Bing responds to search index ECJ ruling: Hello? Remember us?

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Right to be forgotten...

... sorry, who are you? Bing? Nope, never heard of you...

See, it works!!!

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Don't put that duffel bag full of cash in the hotel room safe

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@David Neil - Re: Physical Acces Control Systems are affected too

My mother was in hospital recently and visitors were supposed not to be allowed into wards during meal times.

So, due to various circumstances, I arrive late and think "bugger, they won't let me in", but, at that moment, there's an old guy having a bit of difficulty getting his wheelchair out of the lift.

"Want a hand, mate?"

"Sure."

"Tell you what, I'll just push you into the ward, how about that?"

Nurse sees person pushing patient in wheelchair, lets us in...

(Ok, so it's not High Security, but still :-) )

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Apple ebook price-fix settlement: Readers get $400m, lawyers $50m

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Well...

... at least the Lawyers didn't get the $400m and leave everyone else with the rest...

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NASA: ALIENS and NEW EARTHS will be ours inside 20 years

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@BongoJoe

If you do the maths, you'll find that if you can accelerate at 1g for a year, you're going to end up travelling pretty damn close to the speed of light anyway, so all we need is a better form of Drive.

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Whoah! How many Google Play apps want to read your texts?

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@fruitof theloon - Re: Root

Nice suggestion, but on looking at the details...

Android 4.3 ONLY | NO ROOT | NO ADS

and:

Updated - November 8, 2013

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Get an EYEFUL OF CURRY for the sake of your brain

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Another pub inspired idea...?

"So, what can we get people to ingest so we can detect this?"

"Dunno, fancy another pint?"

"Well, actually I could murder a curry right now..."

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Diary note: Pluto's close-up is a year from … now!

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Pluto Energetic Particle Spectrometer Science Investigation

Ok, so how much did a certain soft drink company pay for *that* bit of product placement?!

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Chinese biz bloke builds his OWN 3,500-mile Tesla charger network

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Whatever else you might think...

... Thumbs up to the guy for not just sitting there and thinking "Someone should do something", but getting off his backside and getting it done!

Of course over here he wouldn't have been able to do it without forms signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters...

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Will GCHQ furtle this El Reg readers' poll? Team Snowden suggests: Yes

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It's a good thing...

... none of this could be harmful to anyone's personal freedoms and civil liberties, isn't it?

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SpaceX FINALLY lobs six sats into orbit (don't mention the landing)

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Kaboom?

At least it wasn't an Earth-Shattering Kaboom...!

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Read the proposed US ASTEROIDS Act to green-light mining IN SPAAAACE

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@frank ly - Re: Watch it, asteroid pirates...

ITYM "We want [Name]'s career to have a fitting end in the [name] system..."

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Watch it, asteroid pirates...

... I've got Military Lasers on my Mark III Cobra...

... Right on, Commander!

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Forget the mobile patent wars – these web giants have patented your DATA CENTER

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@keithpeter - Re: Non-obviousness

> @Don Jefe: and your invention would be patentable (I think) in the UK and most other countries.

Regrettably, now that he's made the information public in a form which is visible in the UK, IIRC it is no longer patentable.

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UK gov rushes through emergency law on data retention

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@MrWibble - Re: Words that are friends ...

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Re: Words that are friends ...

Perhaps we could have one over-arching organisation to deal with everything like this.

They could be called the GEneral STate POlice, perhaps...

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Google went behind our backs and really HURT US, squeal upset porn kingpins

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@ Brewster's Angle Grinder - Re: @graham

> Actually, their argument tends to be, "We don't like it and we don't want our children seeing it (or liking it)

No, the "Won't Someone Think of the Children!" argument is just their excuse for trying to ban something that they don't want us seeing.

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Re: @Symon - Doesn't kill anyone

> How about this?

Given the number of porn workers, what's remarkable is the *low* number of people infected and the measures that the industry itself is willing to take to deal with the problem.

Now compare that with the rising number of young people who have not got the Safer Sex message and have contracted STDs...

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@moosh

> why should anyone object to that?

Because, as is traditional with with religious lobbies and the Mary Whitehouse Brigade and so on, the objection is "We don't like it, so *you* shouldn't be allowed to see it, just in case it makes you do something bad..."

Unfortunately, as with all such prohibitions, it only makes the "forbidden fruit" even more attractive and does nothing to actually stop the behaviours (such as rape, abuse, misogyny etc) which happen whether or not the viewer has seen it.

Regrettably, however, because of the "shame" that society surrounds such things with, few people are willing to stand up and say "I like this, I want to see it", so the politicians pander to the vocal minority knowing that it will go down well in the hypocritical media (Daily Fail, I'm looking at you) with their claims that they are "protecting" us/ society/ women/ children from harm, when, in fact, they're causing the opposite.

Google have, it seems, fallen for the same short-sighted view.

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@Symon - Re: Doesn't kill anyone

No, that's just stupidity and I don't see google blocking that any time soon...

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Think Google Glass is creepy? Wait until it READS YOUR MIND

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> What you do NOT want is your mind state being transferred to Google

Have they invented Effectors, then?

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Global protest calls for canning SOPA-by-stealth treaty's IP bits

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"been told the treaty is in their best interests"

And "it's for your own good" as the Vet said to the tom cat...

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Give an exoplanet a new name: Fill in this form and hope these astro-boffins pick your $input

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A pity that...

... Fintlewoodlewix is already taken...

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It's finally happened: Bloke builds BOFH-style goofing-off cattle prod

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@ I ain't Spartacus Re: Dope Amine

> I'd much prefer it if electric shocks were built into the downvoting button instead.

I can think of a couple of posters on El Reg who would be fried to a crisp if this was introduced given the number of downvotes their posts have accrued...!

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@Dick Pountain - Re: Dope Amine

... and then fall asleep for half an hour or order a pizza?

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@Billa Bong - Re: Wrong way around

> Reward for good behaviour is by far more powerful at creating the habit pathways in one's brain than punishment for bad behaviour is.

COMPU-TEACH: Good morning life-form.

PUPIL:Hi teach.

COMPU-TEACH: Are you sitting comfortably?

PUPIL: Yes.

COMPU-TEACH: Then stand up! Harsh Economic Truths, Class Seventeen. You are standing up?

PUPIL: Yes.

COMPU-TEACH: Good. Posit: you are living in an exciting, go-ahead civilisation. Where are you looking?

PUPIL: Up.

COMPU-TEACH: What do you see?

PUPIL: The open sky. The stars. An infinite horizon.

COMPU-TEACH: Correct! You may press the button.

PUPIL: Thank you.

[Button is pressed. A surge of energy]

PUPIL: Wow! That feels nice.

- The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy

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Russian MP fears US Secret Service cuffed his son for Snowden swap

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@Jonny Canuck

> I'm wondering how agents of the US government can enter a foreign country and remove someone against their will

Does the expression "Extraordinary Rendition" not ring any bells?

The Americans have a long history of kidnapping people to bring them to "justice" and, of course, have a nice little understanding in their Courts that it doesn't matter *how* the defendant (who is, of course, supposedly presumed innocent, whether you have any sympathy for him or not) got there...

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Doctor Who season eight scripts leak online

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@SteveK - Re: Wait and see

Re: The F1 GP - I actually sent a complaint message to BBC on Sunday because I was sitting down to watch the highlights of the British Grand Prix (having avoided any news etc earlier in the day) only to have BBC 3 News *immediately* before it announce the result in a way that was totally impossible to avoid seeing :-(

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Re: Wait and see

Yeah, the only problem then is avoiding the bloody spoilers from Trailers the BBC broadcast which give away massive hints as to what is going to happen, not to mention pictures of Cybermen stuck on the front of the Radio Times ruining any surprise as to the "big reveal"... :(

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Wireless-controlled contraception implant is coming, says MIT

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@WraithCadmus - Re: Power

No, it only works when she's on top!

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Boffins urge European Commission to reboot electric brain project

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Re: An electronic brain?

I'm sure the end result will be something we can all Share and Enjoy!

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Re: Science gravy train

I said it to Wilbur and I said it to Orville, that thing will never work...

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European Space Agency demos MARS LANDINGS BY DRONE

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Dropship?

"We're on an express elevator to Hell. GOING DOWN!"

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Alabama quadchopper hits THREE THOUSAND FEET next to AIRPORT

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Just for a moment...

... ignoring the rights and wrongs of this, that footage from *inside* the fireworks display was bloody impressive!

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Don't panic! Mega cloud biz group says NSA just one among many threats

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Re: No cloud is still the best option

Hey! You! Get off of my cloud! - The Rolling Stones

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