4742 posts • joined 19 Jan 2007
As has already been seen with other filtering systems and the Australian Great Firewall, who will decide what should or shouldn't be blocked?
How is a legitimate business like mine (selling affordable Leather Products and BDSM equipment to consenting adults) going to be classified? I already have Adults Only on the front and links to various filtering services, will that be enough or am I going to find it on someone's centralised block list and suddenly see my customer base plummet (meanwhile my potential customers will simply switch to the ones which aren't filtered).
And what happens when the puritains start deciding that *other* services or websites are "morally unacceptable" to them? Will the list of blocked sites be publicly available? What methods of appeal will available? How much will they cost and how long will they take?
@PhilF Re: Wrong?
ITYM the Guide "contains much that is apocryphal, or at least wildly inaccurate"
Great, but now...
... we need TPTB in the Mental Health community to start listening.
There is a group called Revise F65 whose aim is to "get sexual sadism, masochism, fetishism and transvestic fetishism abolished from the World Health Organization's list of psychiatric diagnoses, ICD."
These are archaic and obsolete definitions based on attitudes from the last century, yet, at the moment, these are what are used to define us and, worse, victimise us, for instance there are divorce custody cases where one (vanilla) partner uses the other's preferences to claim that they are not fit to care for the child because they are "mentally ill".
Speaking as someone who runs a business making Affordable Leather Products, supplying BDSM gear to consenting adults, and who has been involved in the Fetish Community for 20 years, it is easy to see that there are fewer fundamentally fucked-up people involved, not least because they are *happy* with their interests and preferences and they have learned to ignore society's ignorant prejudices that what they are doing is wrong/ bad/ sinful/ harmful etc
"The Fourth amendment of the Constitution. I don't know how or if it applies internationally,"
But, but... it's *American Law* goddamnit! It applies all over the world, doesn't it?! ;-)
Re: Is porn a problem?
The real problem is the people who say "We don't like this, so *you* should not be allowed to see it because we don't trust you to act responsibly if you do."
The real solution is to *educate* not legislate.
Passing laws banning stuff never works. Ban alcohol? You get speakeasies. Ban drugs? You fund the illegal trade. Ban the possession of "extreme porn"? Just stream it off the web. Etc, etc etc.
Take responsibility for your offspring and teach your children that there's more to sex than porn. Educating them about relationships and responsibility and respect will do more to solve the problem than all the laws you can pass.
"I am sick of the liberal left wing nonsense that the EDL is a far right organisation, what exactly makes it far right"
Umm, how about all those pictures of EDL members giving Fascist salutes for one thing!
"when you look at Islam it ticks all the boxes to be classed as far right"
That's because you're only looking at the extreme end of Islam and trying to claim that it is representative of the whole religion. I have a Muslim family living next to me but, curiously, I'm not worried about one of them leaping over the garden wall yelling "Allahu Akbar!" (it's usually their kids saying "can we get our ball back?"
But, of course, you don't want to hear this, you only want to hear things which agree with your biased views and pander to your entirely irrational and ill-informed opinion of Islam.
Re: 17 creative ways...
Hmm, looking at the pattern of Downvotes, it seems there's a member of the EDL on here...
17 creative ways...
... to mock the EDL...
"5,500 postings calling for violent jihad"
And what about those posts I have seen such as the ones saying we should "nuke the Middle East" and other nice, rational solutions to the problem...?
Why does the word...
... Krynoid come to mind...?!
AKA "Tiger, Tiger" by Alfred Bester.
Well worth a read :-)
When I watched that video...
... I imagined the two galaxies going "Whoohooo!" and "Wheee...!!!"
... we see people trying to use the law to cover their arses...
I thought that was Kings Reach Tower (Original home of 2000AD and Earth Base of Tharg the Mighty!)
Sir Roger Carr
Any relation to Jimmy?
... the Porn Industry will be leading the market again...!
If it is not a Penalty Charge Notice...
... tell them to shove it where the sun doesn't shine! (Or, rather, don't even bother to start engaging with them)
Penalty Charge Notices are legally enforceable, Parking Charge Notices, even when tricked up to *look like* they are official fines are nothing more than a scam designed to make you think they are legitimate.
See http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/private-parking-tickets for more details.
Jolly Roger Icon because these scammers are a bunch of pirates...
@JAX - Re: Wow...
I'm aware that human waste is processed first, apparently there's even a book called "Humanure" that explains how to compost it to turn it into fertilizer.
It seems, howevevr, that a certain El Reg Hack isn't aware of this...
You'd think that nobody had thought of the idea of using poo (animal or human) as fertilizer on farms before...
Re: @AC - Slow news day...?
@AC - In which case, you will no doubt be enthralled to know that my neighbour's cat has come back after apparently going missing for a couple of days...
@AC - Re: Slow news day...?
I'll answer that as soon as you tell me on what scale this is any form of news at all.
Despite the best efforts of some sub-editor to make this sound exciting ("quell", "furious", "barney", "gatecrash" and even "tense-stand off"!), this is a complete non-story and again I point out that had it not been for the "geeks in funny costumes" aspect it most likely would never have seen the light of day.
Slow news day...?
This story was on the BBC news site yesterday and it's a total storm-in-a-teacup piece of nonsense.
Would it have got any coverage if it was one of the many incidents such as in pubs where a couple of voices get raised and the Police come along and say "ok, just calm down" and nothing more comes of it? No, probaly not, but because it's "oh look, let's laugh at the geeks who dress up in the funny outfits", suddenly it's worth a few column inches.
"jailed for terms ranging from 24 to 32 months"
I bet they're hoping that, like Chris Huhne, they only end up serving a quarter of their sentences inside.
Or aren't they posh/ rich/ well connected enough for that...?
Re: So what is the difference between No. 10 and 1600 Pennsylvania
@AC Remember that in America you have the choice between voting for the Right Wing Party or the *really* Right Wing Party...
@Eadon - Re: Lobbyists Are ANTI-DEMOCRATIC
If you write to your MP or a group of you organise a petition or other such activities, you are *lobbying*! The only difference is the matter of scale.
Now, yes, I agree that nobody, especially corporate lobbyists should pay for expensive dinners or foreign trips or offer any other sort of freebies to influence MPs who are supposed to represent the views of *us*, the electorate, but lobbying, per se, is not and should not be illegal.
@Aaron Miller - Re: @Aaron Em - @RonWheeler - Or...
Am I supposed to be impressed by more of your pontification? Let alone your arguments ad hominem?
You accuse me of confusion, but that confusion only exists because of the completely erroneous assumptions you make all through your diatribe, assigning motivations and beliefs to me that I do not hold and have never held.
You claim I fail to recognise the difference between correlation and causation, yet a look back through my posts in El Reg would reveal that this something which I have often commented upon, so how can I get it right all those times, yet suddenly get it wrong now? Or perhaps the error is not mine.
Equally, the assumption of "an ideal human breeding habit" is yours, not mine. I have not said, nor would I that this is "ideal", merely that it is better than the situation that exists where poor education standards are shown to correlate with higher birth rates.
And, yes, I most certainly do, with entire validity, accuse you of using Straw Man arguments. Perhaps you would care to now actually address the points I make, rather than the ones you wish to think I have made?
Or would you prefer to simply attempt to denigrate my intelligence whilst actually revealing your own failings in this area? If so, I'll leave the last word to you.
@Aaron Em - Re: @RonWheeler - Or...
I almost missed your remarks to me since they were below the "expand comment" and it was only that I happened to spot my surname (why only my surname "Em"?) that caused me to read the rest of your post after a lot of tedious and irrelevant pontification about the use of English.
In any case, in response to your remark "You imply causation where none is known to exist", a simple search on the "relationship between education and birth rate" would have shown you that causation is most certainly known to exist, for instance: "A women's educational level is the best predictor of how many children she will have, according to a new study from the National Center for Health Statistics, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The study, based on an analysis of 1994 birth certificates, found a direct relationship between years of education and birth rates, with the highest birth rates among women with the lowest educational attainment."
(There are plenty more references below that one, too.)
As for your claim that I am a eugenecist of *any* type, let alone that of RonWheeler, you show yourself to be equally lacking in knowledge on this subject.
Eugenics, from the Greek word eu (good or well) and the suffix -genēs (born), stems from a desire to "improve" the human race either by weeding out the "unfit" or encouraging the "best" to reproduce, neither of which I have supported, do support or ever will support.
Reducing the birth rate by improving education has *nothing* to do with Eugenics and if you think that increased education is only available to affluent societies or that it is some how "dis-privilegeing" societies you simply demonstrate even more ignorance of the subjects under discussion.
Ironically it was RonWheeler who accused *me* of using Straw Man arguments...
Re: @RonWheeler - Or...
"No I wasn't. Go build another straw man."
A Straw Man argument involves exaggerating or misrepresenting someone else's argument. Since your entire argument so far appears to be "start treating breeders like the ignorant selfish people that they are" without any more details, there isn't anything there *to* misrepresent other than a vague statement, hence why I expressed an opinion about what *appears* to be your position.
If you would actually care to clarify your statement instead of just accusing others of "ignoring facts", it might help me to counter it.
Do you know how sausages are made...?
Most people don't know and, if you told them, would wish you hadn't told them!
So why this assumption that, as happens with some countries in Asia etc, we'd actually be eating the insects with legs and wings and everything else intact?
Why not just grow them, farm them, then mince and pulp them before re-constituing them in a more palatable and pleasing-to-the-eye form, so it's no longer "a bug", but simply another form of protein?
Perhaps you've not heard of Louis Pasteur? The guy who discovered that heating something to 70 degrees for 10 seconds (ie cooking it) killed harmful microbes...
@RonWheeler - Re: Or...
"The overpopulation problem doesn't exist".
Of course it does, but you appear to be offering the solution of eliminating the breeders by some form or other instead of *educating* people which history has shown to be an effective way to be the way to reduce reproduction rates.
Don't want a Ring of Fire?
Lay off those hot curries, then!
Re: And yet the warmologists will defend them
Just to let you know that I've downvoted you because you're being as arrogant as the people you're decrying.
For more details, please contact my solicitors, Messers Pott and Kettle-Black...
Soon, fleshy ones...
.... One palm on centre of chest, other above it, make rapid pressing motions: Find me a hospital drama.
Finger rotated in a cirdle next to temple: I want to watch a programme like Jackass or Mr T's Craziest Fools
Finger inserted into mouth, head bowed forward: I want to watch X-Factor, Britain's Got Talent or Big Brother
PS [Smug Mode]Thanks for the mention :-) [/Smug Mode]
What does this have to do with "political correctness"?
PC is simply mindless avoidance of "offensive" terms or, at least, in the view of some idiot, words which could conceivably cause offence to someone of a particular racial/ religious/ whatever group, and usually done without even *asking* people from that group whether or not they'd be offended.
I see nothing in this that has anything to do with PC.
I've been looking for that...
Xrp!ltich the Rplatzian
@AC - Re: @Crisp - Seriously? People think this is all going to be OK?
Right, because *no* cameras should be allowed anywhere in public for fear that they might capture the image of a child...
@Stevie - Re: @Graham Marsden @LinkOfHyrule - Seriously? People think this is all going to be OK?
If you are doing something in a public space you have *no* right to expectation of privacy!
However I do agree that there should be stronger penalties applied to people using any "distracting technology" whilst in control of a vehicle. If you do something stupid which hurts you, that's your problem. If it hurts someone else, that's a legal problem.
@LinkOfHyrule - Re: Seriously? People think this is all going to be OK?
"Might as well just let David Cameron install a webcam in my toilet and be done with it"
No, the correct comparison would be *you* installing a webcam in your toilet. Nobody is forcing you to wear these glasses.
When they were first invented they were referred to as "A solution in search of a problem".
How did that work out?!
Re: I remember...
I don't recall animated phasers, but when you fired a photon torpedo a little blob did run across the screen and hit the Klingon with an asterisk shaped explosion :-)
... playing this on an 8k Commodore Pet!
... here's a pic of John xxxxxx pi$$ing up against a wall. Oh and here's Jenny yyyyy throwing up into a rubbish bin after getting drunk.
And here's a picture of Terry zzzz and Andy aaaaaaa caught comparing the sizes of their cocks...
So when you said you wanted References for them, which company did you say you worked for?
No, I can't see anything that could go wrong with this.
Prior art from Judge Dredd...
... Spy in the Sky microdrones
@Trib Re: Hotmail - for El reg ID's
Or you can turn off the ads with NoScript and Adblock Plus.
And if it's something his system, it's something with mine as well (running Firefox) because when I first try going into it and try to click on anything it's "oops, no, not going to do anything yet, still loading lots of crap, wait five seconds and then try again and maybe the whole page will have loaded..."
@Caff Re: Will be forced on us
No, that's not a *need*, that's an excuse.
@william 10 Re: ID cards - good, database - bad
Do I need to produce ID to travel in a taxi? No.
Do I have to pay for my train ticket with a card (or produce a card to get permission to buy one)? No.
Do I have to purchase a non-anonymous Oyster Card to travel in London? No.
I *can* do these, if I wish, but that's my *choice*, it's not an obligation.
@I think so I am? Re: Bad ideas never die...
You are not required to carry a passport or National Insurance card simply to prove that you have the right to walk down the street.
It has long been a principle of English Common Law that you have the right to "Go about your lawful business without let or hindrence" ("let" meaning needing permission).
ID cards could (and very probably would) be used to infringe this right.
"it simply doesn't portray the shadowy world of intelligence effectively"
And if it did, do you think they'd *say* so?
"Oh, yes, that's a perfectly accurate depiction of the way we do XYZ, so all our enemies will now know what we do and be able to develop ways to stop us..."!
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