Ha Ha Ha, He He He...
...And now for the long-awaited class action law suit.
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...And now for the long-awaited class action law suit.
Couldn't happen to a nicer mob. One day, Qualcomm will eventually realize all its troubles were caused through its abandonment of Eudora. Disgruntled users are now taking revenge.
Who damn-well cares anymore except the Feds? This isn't the 1950s.
Whether it's p0rn or any other private matter, I'm mightily pissed off at the hordes of petty little bureaucrats who are making decisions–more often than not based on their own warped prejudices–only to cause unjustified misfortune to others.
The very bureaucrats who initiate such action should simultaneously be exposed along with the accusation. If bureaucrats couldn't hide behind the bureaucracy then much of this vexatious crap would soon disappear.
Backblaze has attitude, and it's one that I find very likable.
It regularly publishes its disk reliability stats together with drive failures and it does so by brand type–something that Google never did when it published its document on the mechanisms underlying disk failures. It regularly updates its stats and makes them available in the public arena, and now how could anyone not like its return policy on its backup offer?
These days, over-the-counter* Lomotil (aka Co-phenotrope) does the same, it works wonders for the trots and fast, it has come to my aid on multiple occasions, especially when traveling. Lomotil has been around for many years and contains a cleaver combination of the reasonably powerful opiate diphenoxylate (the active ingredient) and a small amount of atropine.
Diphenoxylate, like laudanum/morphine and other opiates, works very effectively in slowing the intestines/stopping diarrhea but it's still an opiate, thus addictive. To overcome the problem of addiction (or being used as a substitute for morphine/heroin addicts), a precise amount atropine is added to the diphenoxylate. Taken in the correct dose, the Lomotil works wonders, but when it's taken in excess the atropine kicks in making the patient quite ill with nausea and tachycardia. Essentially, the addict cannot consume enough diphenoxylate for a 'high' before the atropine puts him out of action. This cleaver trick means ordinary non-addicted people aren't too inconvenienced when they need it.
BTW, Lomotil/diphenoxylate is much faster acting and of considerably shorter duration in its effect than that other anti-diarrhea drug loperamide (Imodium), 4-6h vs 24h. IMHO, Lomotil is a much better drug, Imodium takes far too long to kick in and often lasts much longer than necessary thus one ends up with constipation.
For years, when traveling to strange places, eating strange foods, diphenoxylate and the anti-nausea drug prochlorperazine; aka Stemetil, and the anti-tummy-bug drug metronidazole, aka Flagyl were and still are essential travel companions, in combination they often worked wonders.
* OTC depends where you live, sometimes it's script only, or script above a certain quantity,
You're right. VMs are the easiest way to ease out from one OS into another. I've XP running under VMs to use data created under legacy apps that have no upgrade path to Win 7 or anything else (i.e.: the old pgm won't work under any newer OS).
Also, there's a comfort zone associated with VMs, they're a bit like Linus' security blanket, yuh know you've something familiar with which to fallback upon either when you're in a hurry or a solution in the new OS isn't obvious immediately and or without effort.
Then eventually one day you suddenly realize the past is over/passé and transition finally complete after you've reinstall the new OS but have not bothered to reinstall the VM. Over recent years this has happened to me a few times.
Seems to me that with the advent of Win 10, those of us in the know should be both advocating VM solutions as well as helping others to make that transition.
Jibbers has declined to grant my prayers, but I will keep trying.
You're lucky you've a plan that's set in operation with a cut-off date. I too have made substantial inroads into penguin-land.
Trouble is the vast majority don't have that luxury for many reasons, most of which we know already. Consider it this way: If Jibbers fails to deliver then there's the justice argument to fall back upon, in our system, transgressors either end up in the clink or are fined. Irrespective, Redmond shouldn't be allowed to escape.
I agree totally with your posts.
The question is what do we do about it? We've now reached the stage where the abuse of the Microsoft Monopoly is no longer just an annoyance or even a major inconvenience, what we are now seeing with Windows 10 is abuse that verges upon that of malware and virus writers.
Effectively, Microsoft is behaving like VW but we've no equivalent of environmental laws to protect us PC users. The next question is why not. Governments are forever getting in our way but never there when we actually need them!
There are millions of techies around the world who have been screaming about Microsoft's abuse of users for years but essentially they've done so in isolation, thus Microsoft just ignores them. We need to change this now! What we need is an organization with a well organized web site a la the EFF etc. whose sole purpose is to bring Microsoft's abuses to the fore and have them stopped, by force of law if necessary. As I see it, it should:
* Forcefully lobby governments to stop Microsoft abusing users, destroying their privacy etc., to seek much stronger consumer laws like the ones that are now protecting VW owners. Again, why are VW owners protected by laws and PC owners not? (Here's a first-class instance where our laws have irregular granularity, they protect one section of the community and not others). This organization would also lobby governments for better or stronger online privacy laws as well as strengthening monopoly and corporate abuse law.
* It should be a one-stop repository for what's wrong with Windows. Users would list by topic what they find wrong with various versions of Windows from basic design flaws, to serious feature omissions through to Microsoft privacy malware.
* The organization would highlight to governments, et al about Microsoft's bad behaviour, for instance that it has been spying on us uses in a serious way since XP. Here's just one specific example: users need to be told very explicitly that the Windows host file is completely useless for blocking certain Microsoft IP addresses, as Microsoft has hard-coded bypasses so Windows can always phone home irrespective of the user's wishes. Frankly, this is totally unacceptable. There ought to be widespread outrage over it; trouble is, few actually know about it. It needs widespread publicity.
* It should provide help and tips about how to minimize the damage Microsoft is causing. For example, the pros and cons about installing Microsoft updates through to providing info such as Microsoft server block lists and how to install them on external routers.
* Similarly, it would issue notification bulletins every time that Microsoft patched or updated Windows with code that spies on or otherwise breaches users' privacy.
[Remember, until recently manufacturers never knew when a customer used an appliance, it was always the user's prerogative to provide that advice, if ever. That's changed with online but customers were never asked about it beforehand. The fact that programs phone home has never been debated in the wider community, there needs to be wide public debate over the issue. Especially so with respect to operating systems. As I see it, we need laws to stop such abuse. To be truly effective they should both target corporations such as Microsoft and also those working for them–thus anyone coding spyware would know that he/she would be targeted automatically by the law for doing so.]
* The organization's website would welcome input from users, have a forum etc.
* Such an organization and its website would be structured in such a way that under no circumstances could Microsoft influence the organization's policy nor would it be able to change the contents of its website. It would be especially immune to Microsoft propaganda and lobbying.
So how do we begin such an undertaking? Are there any fledgling organizations/websites already out there with this objective that, with encouragement/force of numbers etc., could be developed into such an organization?
Any ideas, Trevor, anyone?
Until your scenario happens to some large corporate/govt. department etc. we're not going to see any change.
We need some large corporate or govt. to sue Microsoft for damages and succeed. It's only then governments will react with consumer protection laws to prevent such abuse. I'm surprised it's not happened yet.
"Considering that Australia has since walked away from a plan to build a national FTTP network, it's easy to wish that the Hawke government had taken up the idea."
I and others have have been crowing about this for decades, in fact since the Telecom 2000 report in the late 1970s. Over 30 years ago, it was obvious even to Blind Freddy what was needed to properly deregulate telecommunications in Australia, yet no sensible scheme was never implemented by any Australian federal government.
Instead, successive Australian federal governments fucked up telecommunications deregulation big-time. It's hard to describe the conniving, the incompetence, the dishonesty and treachery that was involved with the deregulation and sell-off of Telstra. Ultimately, when all the facts eventually emerge and the ultimate costs known, the deregulation of Telstra will go down in history as essentially an act of treason against the Australian people. There's no other reasonable way of putting it.
Describing the Australian telecommunications deregulation and the Telstra sell-off as monkeys doing brain surgery would be a gross understatement, as that's just incompetence. It was a great deal more than that. The opportunistic and greedy Federal Government(s) in both Liberal and Labor incarnations set out with deliberate determination to screw every cent out the sale of Telstra whilst opportunists both within and outside Telstra aided and abetted the process. It cost the Australian public billions of dollars and also set back the introduction of Australia having a decent fibre backbone across country by decades. What happened is an utter disgrace, and we've been the laughing stock of the world ever since.
The principal fuck-up was the way Telstra was sold off COMPLETE WITH the cable and network infrastructure intact, this meant that the Australian people would pay dearly for their telecommunications in two ways:
1. Telstra maintaining its monopoly over the cable infrastructure meant that new competitors were at the mercy of Telstra when it came to their access to the cable network, Telstra overcharging was both unmerciful and unstoppable. (For infrastructural reasons latter pricing regulators were left with a legacy which could not be undone, even with their best efforts and intents their network price determinations were a joke compared to what they should have been.)
Naturally, Telstra's new competitors had to pass on Telstra's outrageous network access charges to their customers, the net effect was that there was no real competition. Effectively, competitors' users were loaded with an 'infrastructure' charge or loading that went straight to Telstra's coffers. Even if you were say an Opus customer Telstra copped heaps. So much for deregulation!
Moreover, the existing network infrastructure had already been paid for by millions of Australians over many decades–over a hundred years or so, now they were paying for it again–note Telstra wasn't just charging for maintenance it was undertaking mammoth price-gouging. (And it should be noted that since deregulation, Telstra has let the copper network run down and simply decay, it's only maintenance was and is crash-maintenance, it's done stuff-all maintenance ever since and fired/outsourced its once very professional line crews.)
2. To overcome the problem, Telstra's competitors such as Optus had to build alternative parallel networks. Again, this unnecessary duplication has cost the Australian people billions of extra dollars– costs that should have never been incurred. Everywhere one probes bells ring loudly, one can only conclude that Australian telecommunications competition is an outrageous bloody joke.
The reasons for why there's been no outrage, rioting in the streets over the deregulation of Australian telecommunications/Telstra sell-off scandal I can only attribute to the fact that Australians seem to have had too much disposable income over the past 30 or so years for them to bother complaining in any serious way. (I wonder what will happen when the mining boom is ultimately over and the remainder of our manufacturing is nuked and or sent off to China?)
As I've said in previous related posts, what we need is for some budding PhD student to put the whole shemozzle into the mix and ultimately work out what these unmitigated government fuck-ups have cost every Australian over the past 30+ years or so. Any potential candidates out there reading this then I'd suggest not only would you benefit from a PhD but also the kudos would be enormous.)
* We need to know how the original Telstra sell-offs complete with the intact cable infrastructure have contributed in real dollar terms to the cost of the current NBN fuck-up. That's to say the total cost of the current NBN compared to the sensible alternative which was that governments should have sold of Telstra sans the cable infrastructure and implemented a revenue-neutral National Cable Authority. (A revenue-neutral National Cable Authority where both government and competitors have shareholdings on a 51/49% basis would ensure 'net neutrality' pricing for all service providers including Telstra, it would also be efficient if properly legislated, as network service providers would have input into that efficiency.)
* We need to know exactly who the culprits were who initiated the original plans for the Telstra sell-offs (who did what, who authorized what etc. and did they ever benefit from the the Telstra sales in any way).
* Expanding on that: we need to know exactly who influenced respective governments. Who were the government insiders, Trojan horses and traitors who so fucked the Australian public?.
* We need to know exactly who benefited from the sale of Telstra–where did the money go and by how much. A cost benefit analysis of how governments spent the Telstra sale income versus what the Australian public have had to outlay in additional telecommunications charges since the sell-off as well as the ADDITIONAL monies unnecessarily spent and wasted on the NBN, which would not have been necessary to anywhere near the same extent had the government retained the cable infrastructure. (This is detailed stuff, a PhD would be well earned, methinks).
* We need to know exactly how lobbying influenced respective Australian governments and who the major players were.
* Ultimately, we need to determine (a) what the per capita losses were, i.e.: every Australian telecommunications user should be told in absolute dollar terms what the ultimate cost as been to him/her; and (b) we need a reasonable estimate of how much Australians are being overcharged currently as a consequence of these 30-year old fuck-ups.
Ultimately, this fuck-up has cost the Australian public billions and billions of dollars yet it's essentially slipped under the RADAR because of government obfuscation and propaganda. As both sides of politics–Tweedledum and Tweedledee–have their clammy little paws in the till, there's been no will politically to expose the dirty linen. 'Mum's the word' might be the realpolitik, but it shouldn't say that way.
BTW, I and others benefited significantly from the sale of Telstra but we should not have done so. Around the time of the sell-offs, I went to an auction of Telstra electronic equipment after Telstra's Tempe Research Laboratory (in Sydney) had been closed after having been deemed 'redundant' by Telstra's 'new' corporate management. I bought test and lab gear in excellent condition, some almost brand new, whose new price would have been in the hundreds of thousands of dollars for literally only a few hundred dollars, what I paid was only pocket money!
Equipment such as Tektronix spectrum analyzers, oscilloscopes, precision Fluke Kelvin–Varley divider and many other bits of instrumentation of similar calibre, most of it in full calibration, I picked up for almost free. From my stance as a techie, it was a wonderful and remarkable experience, nothing like that has ever happened to me before, it was like winning the lottery.
In principle, this was nothing other than 'legal theft' from the Australian people, what happened at Tempe was an utter disgrace. Even if we leave the equipment out of the equation, then the closure of the laboratory and loss of skilled engineering jobs was a loss to the Nation. Telstra could have sold the lab off as a working concern but it did not. You won't see accounts such as this in government propaganda about the Telstra sale. When it comes to an ultimate audit of costs of the Telstra sale then details such as this should be factored in. Remember, the sale of Telstra also had huge social implications, many skilled personnel were displaced and or ultimately made redundant. For the record, I wasn't one of them, I've never worked for Telstra.
It's about time the NSA, GCHQ etc. target this mob instead of us soft and easy targets.
We need to ask our political masters why these pack of bastards aren't also on the spooks top priority list.
We know they are not! Why, the ransomware is actually INCREASING isn't it?
Methinks a dose of conscription would sort that PETA mob out–they'd taste the real world for once. Trouble is, the army rightfully wouldn't touch them with a 50' barge pole.
No wonder the US is ungovernable when people actually take time to listen to mad, quasi-religious, West-Coast sects such as PETA. Why the hell do we even give them press oxygen?
What the fuck next?
As I said in an earlier post, Mortein is nigh on useless, most sprays for various other purposes work better. ;-)
'Australia. Lovely place, but really wants you dead.'
Come on, it's not that bad. Trouble with you Brits is that you've been too spoiled–you've grown up in a land where things don't jump out and bite you–these days, even the fleas on your beloved rattus rattus are free of Yersinia pestis! (Most parts of the world have some nasties that want to rid humans from the planet but the UK's mostly escaped them.)
'This year we have the added excitement that the extension of the M2 motorway has disturbed hundreds of red bellied snakes whch have picked our street as their favoured refugee destination.'
The red-bellied black snake is really a pretty timid animal that usually moves away when you approach, and it's not very poisonous. It usually takes deliberate interference/provocation for it to bite you–concern yourself with those damn brown snakes and the death adders, browns can bite and sometimes you're not even aware of it–well anyway, not immediately!
BTW, years ago I was camping at Emmagen Creek in the Daintree rainforest near Cape Tribulation and was kneeling down brushing my teeth at the edge of the creek (using the creek as one would use a basin) when I became aware that a darkish-brown snake with mottled yellowish markings/stripes was drinking from creek only two feet to my right (I'm still not sure what type it was). It wasn't there when I kneeled down so it came up beside me, it didn't seem the slightest bit concerned at my presence. I kept still and it left eventually.
As they say, keep still and don't skedaddle (but it's damn hard to do I can assure you).
Almost, bloody useless stuff Mortein, it only contains synthetic pyrethrum. It's nigh on useless for any serious insect nuking and it breaks down within days especially so outside in the presence of UV light (but I discovered accidentally it does kill goldfish if you don't cover their tank properly when spraying).
And don't spray it on funnel-webs as all you'll do is rile them and they're more likely to attack (pyrethrum doesn't work well or quickly on spiders, it takes ages to work).
Gone are the days when you could buy decent insect-nuking chemicals such as Dichlorvos (an organophosphate). It really did work properly. It's now banned (this is what happens when you put real tool in the hands of fuckwits who don't know how to use them properly or safely).
Ha, yeah I actually remember that. That was the ABC's Richard Morecroft if I recall correctly. An Oz media classic.
6" - A slight exaggeration for a huntsman methinks, try half that!
It's not the huntsman that's a problem, rather it's the all-to-common White-tailed spider, they have no web or burrow so they wander everywhere.
Despite all the worry and crap about their dangers (which seems grossly exaggerated), their wandering habits in the middle of the night means they can wander into one's bed. These aggressive little buggers will then bite when you toss about–attempt to roll on them etc.
To my knowledge, I've not been bitten but occasionally I have found one in my bed (the disturbing worry is that one can be bitten whilst one's asleep).
Only last week I lifted the toiled seat cover only to find a fully-grown huntsman spider perched right in the middle of the underside. For some reason they love bathrooms, perhaps it's the damp.
They love cars too, almost every summer I find at least one of them in the car (usually moving around whilst I'm driving).
Ah, what a lovely topic with which to scare all you British scaredy-kats!
First, let's see what we're talking about, here's a female redback: Latrodectus hasseltii and here's a male Sydney funnel-web spider in warning posture: Atrax robustus. If you check Wiki 'Australian funnel-web spider' both images and text you'll get some lovely photos, and the text has a rather graphic description of bites under 'Medical significance' and 'Symptoms'–not for the fainthearted.
Redbacks are rather boring but common (they're everywhere in my backyard, leave a bit of wood there and after a week or so, I'm bound to find a collection of them under it).
Atrax robustus (the Sydney funnel-web) is a far more exciting animal. As dan1980 says the funnel web is reasonably large (probably 2 to 3 times the size of a redback) and the males, whilst slightly smaller than the females, are particularly aggressive, especially so in the summer months during the mating season. This is when males go walkabout looking for females, in the process they can turn up in the most unexpected places (in a shoe of instance). Moreover, when it rains heavily they are often washed/flooded out of their funnel-web burrows and to escape the water they will end up in places such as laundries, under washing machines, in laundry baskets full of dirty clothes, and at the bottom of swimming pools (yes, they can survive under water for a long time, so one should always look at the bottom of the pool before swimming).
Funnel-webs make good, easy to manage pets!
Well, 'interesting' probably would be a better word. Whilst my place is loaded with redbacks, it's comparatively devoid of funnel-webs. As one place I worked, this was not so for one of my staff, his backyard had a ready supply of them so occasionally he'd bring a few male A. robustus to work and we'd set them up in a very large coffee jar on my desk complete with sufficient dirt and small rocks so they could make proper funnel-webs burrows (normally, there's only one per jar as we don't want any fighting). Periodically, we'd provided water and a good supply of live slaters (woodlice) and crickets for food, (they won't eat dead ones). Funnel-webs live quite happily in this environment for up to two years.
The exciting part–amusing visitors!
Coming in of a morning and switching on the lights seemed to disturb the spider, as I sat down at my desk it would often rear up against the glass poised in attack mode. To impress visitors, clients, reps etc. we'd stick the blunt (brown tip) end of a red Columbia Copperplate pencil through the air vents in the top of the jar and the spider would instantly attack it multiple times. It would puncture the pencil in various places and you could see small droplets of venom running down the outside (somewhere I still have one of the 'pockmarked' pencils covered at one end with hundreds of tiny punctures).
Brits, come over and I'll line you up a demo.
When I was a kid of about 11 or so, one day I was catching frogs and one jumped under a rock so I reached under it to pull the frog out but instead I pulled out a large male Atrax robustus. Bloody miracle I wasn’t bitten–and it happened long before the antivenene became available–but that incident didn't scare me as much as when I was14 and stood on an Eastern Brown snake (one of the world's deadliest), that did nearly scare the hell out of me.
Another incident (which I was not present at that time but I knew those involved) occurred at a place where we often went abseiling. As it was summer, the group of four-five guys changed out of their jeans into shorts before descending down the cliff (leaving their jeans and other paraphernalia at the top of the cliff). Later when they changed back into their jeans, one guy was bitten on the knee–a male Atrax robustus having taken up residence in his pants.
As they were Sydneysiders, immediately they knew the culprit responsible and exactly what action to take. After tying a tourniquet on his leg, they rushed him to hospital and he was in intensive care within approximately 20 minutes. He suffered severe pulmonary oedema (frothing up blood from his lungs) and other symptoms including partial kidney failure, and for three days it was touch-and-go whether he live or not (but he did). Of course, that was in the days before the antivenene became available.
Welcome of Oz everyone!
Here's another good reference: Australian Museum
'..."We can't help you then." and hung up.
Yeah, I well remember that attitude. Also, I recall one of my staff left and went to work for IBM. He'd left us in jeans and T-shirt and some months later paid us a visit as a dapper-suited ponce sporting a flashy tie. He explained that dress code was often more important to IBM than the work.
Mind you, this isn't my only backroom source of IBM information, besides my work being a reasonably large customer of its PCs, some years beforehand I was trained on an IBM mainframe, so I was well acquainted how inflexible the company was back then.
No wonder the new nimble generation outwitted them.
'... by the dimmest of PHBs.' - Absolutely, I recall around that time being invited into a couple of board rooms in Silicon Valley and I was told some of the assumptions those companies had made and I couldn't quite believe how stupid they were. Needless to say, those companies are only memories these days.
Correct, OS/2 was a fiasco but the choice was limited, either the UNIX road, CP/M and or DOS or preemptive multitasking OS/2. At the time, if UNIX was out (for various reasons such as a business already using IBM's mainframes etc.) then OS/2 was often the best option.
Right too about the 20-year run, there's no doubt the stars all lined up for various reasons (there's already many books about it, the definitive ones still have to be written).
'Users seem to be more adaptable than Slurp expected...' Initially this wasn't the case (seems the pre-PC generation who actually managed to adapt to the PC were less inclined to relearn new ropes than the generation born to PCs who adapted with relish (few seemed to appreciate how quickly they would adapt, me included).
PIP B:=A:*.COM [VO]
I think that syntax is correct but it's been a long time! OK, I've thrown my credentials down so I feel qualified to reply. :-)
Yeah, at the time I was using all the same stuff and it was pretty solid, software and hardware just worked as it was supposed to. Some manuals were often cryptic but once you got the hang of them they were accurate and comprehensive, Kildall's CP/M manuals are a case in point. On the other hand, the IBM PC tech manuals (which I still have) were a delight to use, even the hardware came with circuit diagrams and component layouts etc. (one could stick an oscilloscope onto an IC pin and actually figure out what was happening–shame we don't produce stuff in the same manner and with the same thoroughness these days). And if one had an Intel MDS/ICE–In Circuit Emulator complete with bond-out chip–then you could do pretty much anything (that's assuming one understood the implications of the .ASM extension which was pretty much mandatory in those days).
Nevertheless, it was far from a bed of roses: switch off UNIX machines without powering down and you'd likely have serious problems; the damn 8*3 file name limitations in CP/M; and the puny 1M address space of those toy 8085s etc. (even 80286 was a bitch) meant that the size of jobs that we could tackle was rather limited.
Trouble was, useability was an issue (Kildall seemed to have little regard for it), then when we thought things were getting a little better with OS/2, Gates came along and fragmented the market, not to mention made products much more proprietary.
Today, (at least for ITers etc.) things are in a bloody shambles, we might be told what services.msc actually is but we've not a clue (or no practical one anyway) about how services 'bolt' onto say the kernel, such is proprietary nature of MS products.
For the last 30 years or so these have been serious issues for IT as the average IT person either didn't have to skills or more likely the time to establish a research project to reverse-engineer such code. Of course, the consequences of this were serious, Windows was like a Swiss cheese, vulnerabilities everywhere, and the only truly knowledgeable people were often the hackers.
Gates might have built an empire but he's left a bloody disaster in his wake. It's been a damn tragedy really (as I've said elsewhere, one day history will inevitably come to that conclusion).
Right, Microsoft has good-to-excellent PR with governments and corporates, most see it as a highly successful, profitable company (which it is). For most of the 30 years of Windows, Microsoft was an unchallenged monopoly and thus the majority of PC users were only familiar with its products (thus learning alternatives wasn't on the agenda–no one wanted to throw away his/her skills in MS products, so most were protective of MS when they heard criticism of it).
The result is that it's been almost impossible to explain to the general public Microsoft's sins in any comprehensible way (i.e.: there was no stomach for widespread reporting/news* on the subject). To make matters worse, ordinary users through to governments simply didn't and still don't understand the issues with sufficient depth which means that Microsoft's PR department had (and still has) little trouble brushing off criticism of serious issues such as security breaches, etc. onto perpetrators/hackers etc. MS comes out essentially lily-white, it's baddies that cause all the problems.
To top it off, the IT industry has never formed any cohesive policy on the issue (as many ITers also had a considerable 'investment' in/knowledge of Microsoft products–many rely on MS like sucker fish for their income–at times me included). Thus, the 'noise' always came from the 1% of PC users who used Linux, the small percentage of Apple users and the 'IT whingers' such as many of us here at El Reg–those of us bleeding from having been on MS's cutting edge. All up, this would have hardly amounted to 10% of the world's PC users, thus we could be (and were) ignored.
However, that MS nexus has been seriously broken in recent years by the phenomenal growth of Google/Android, the remarkable phoenix-like resurrection of Apple together with the major shift in software usage (smartphones etc.). Ten years ago, no one would have predicted what has happened. It's a phenomenal change.
Microsoft is now very vulnerable, so it's time to kick it screaming all the way into the professional world of real engineering (and it's going to be much easier than it would have been ten years ago).
* The IT media were (and still are) compliant, over the years there's been precious little effective criticism of MS or any in-depth analysis of the problems with MS software (mostly, criticism was of the indirect kind about patches, workarounds, etc.). Big IT publishers, such as ZDNet were particularly compliant and there were few exceptions El Reg being one of them (it's probably the reason these posts are often so critical of MS, as those of us in the know have had to gravitate here. ;-)
Thank you muchly, flattery will get you everywhere!
Now the keg's a wonderful idea ('tis a long while since I've had one all to myself), but methinks it better to share it with most posters here–so much the unanimity of opinion.
As a magnanimous gesture, perhaps we should also give a thimbleful to MST for getting us so riled.
Oh, and I've chucked in an upvote for good measure!
'However the next MS update will probably change the IP addresses.'
That's why we need some binary hacks to nuke these bypasses for once and for all.
One of these posts refers to a site that points out that some MS DLLs can bypass the hosts file. (Not being a Win 10 user, I've just learned this. I'll definitely be checking this out in more detail.)
Correct, and I'll bet history will eventually prove it.
You're evading the main issues again which is (a) that Microsoft has exchanged its traditional paid mode for a so-called 'free' update in exchange for 'stealing' users' data, and (b) that it's done so underhandedly and on the sly (i.e.: without users being fully aware of the ramifications/consequences).
Is this not obvious? (For detailed facts, read my post in reply to your first post!)
I have previously read those links in your post, and I've just refreshed my mind by rereading most of them again (including the 'more' expansions).
Do you honestly believe that the enormous amount of data Microsoft collects (together with the sheer scope and range of the collection) [as outlined in those links] is acceptable practice or are you just mouthing the Microsoft corporate line? If you do believe so then you live in a very different world to me (and a check of other El Reg readers' posts shows I'm far from being alone). Simply, you and Microsoft are way off-beam with huge numbers of IT personnel–the very people Microsoft should be courting.
With Windows 10, Microsoft [Nadella] has essentially done what Gates did with Windows 95 when he decided to change direction and commit Microsoft to the internet—the difference is that Gates never kept the matter secret as MS has attempted to do here.
If Microsoft had said openly that 'we don't believe there's ongoing monies to be made by continually upgrading Windows so it's more profitable for us to give you users Windows 10 for free* in exchange for you giving us your personal data including the way you run your lives day-to-day' then it wouldn't have pissed off so many millions of users! Instead, Microsoft decided to be sneaky and underhanded about the Windows 10 upgrade and it did so by conning many unsuspecting millions with a tempting candy-covered but arsenic-laced download. That alone should be sufficient to have Microsoft sued in many jurisdictions (in many countries false pretenses, deception etc. are illegal).
Where I live that under the Trade Practices Act such deception is considered 'deceptive and misleading conduct'. Hopefully, snail-paced law will eventually catch up with Microsoft–not that I'm naive enough to believe it will happen any time soon such is Microsoft's power, influence and lobbying.
[* MatthewSt, we're not completely stupid you know! Why the hell would Microsoft give away Windows 10 for free? Of course it wouldn't, and many of us know the exact reason as to why Microsoft's 'free' is diametrically opposed to the OED definition of 'free'. Stephen O’Grady in his excellent little book 'THE SOFTWARE PARADOX-The Rise and Fall of the Commercial Software Market', http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920033325.do , sums up and exposes the reasons just perfectly.
This book outlines the underlying reasons why Microsoft and others have or are moving from the paid mode to 'free' in exchange for personal data; it is considered such an important publication that for a short time PayPal actually sponsored a free download (but unfortunately it's no longer available that way.)]
As for your comment '...If you think they're [Microsoft] lying and are collecting more than they're stating, start a class action suit and take them to court....' why would anyone bother (other than regulators)? Just reading the 'privacy' fine print alone says it all. Combine this with the way Microsoft is 'conning' many users into downloading Windows 10 as well as the fact that it's now essentially forcing (actively push-serving) the Windows 10 upgrade then it's very likely users will have an actionable case on multiple accounts.
[IMHO, Microsoft would also be on pretty thin ice if it were to rely on users having accepted the EULA, etc. thus it's not its fault, especially so after all the ramifications of Microsoft privacy heist are fully understood and exposed.]
If you are still in any doubt as to what many of us are complaining about then may I suggest you read my other posts to this article as well as those in yesterday's story Microsoft Windows: The Next 30 Years. ...And don't stop there, also read the many other posts that more often than not essentially agree with my position.
May I suggest to don't stop there either: tell your masters, especially Nadella, to do the same. If they still don't comprehend the issues then I'm sure many of us would only be too glad to explain them (despite our anger and outrage I'm sure we'd do so in a most civilized and courteous way).
P.S.: also, tell Nadella, et al that Microsoft is 'stealing' our internet download time with its enormous downloads. I've run out of my wireless internet credit on more than one occasion and been left without internet access whatsoever simply because I'd forgotten to immediately nuke Windows Update after a Windows re-installation.
Message to Microsoft: Microsoft, you really do have a damn fucking hide to do that–how dare you! Recovering the millions of dollars you've cost users in download fees from questionable downloads does seem to be a very legitimate reason for a class action to be launched against you. It seems to me that eventually when the law does catch up with you, you'll be then forced to explain the explicit details of what every download actually does as well as you'll have to seek explicit permissions from users before you put anything whatsoever onto their machines.
Oh, BTW, the fact that Windows Update has to download in excess of a gigabyte during a re-installation of the SAME Windows version (as it does in Win 7 sp1) shows clearly that the Windows code base is in one hell of a fucking mess! You don't have to be Einstein or even an IT graduate to figure that out. Remember, here I'm referring to the amount of Win 7 updates–even after sp1, Windows Update STILL downloads over a GB of updates.
After 30+ years of development that Windows is still in such a diabolical mess is an utter disgrace. This is not only a reflection on Microsoft's disingenuousness but also on the Computing Industry itself–the IT industry ought to be horrified. Serious questions have to be asked as to why we ITers let Microsoft get away with 'software Murder' for so very long. If we don't ask and call Microsoft to account now then history most certainly will do it for us.
My question was rhetorical of course. Perhaps I'm more cynical than you. Microsoft wields power, influence and many lobbyists; ordinary users usually can't/don't.
Bravo! Same here.
I find it very difficult to understand why there hasn't been outrage over Microsoft's spying in Windows 10. Moreover, it's very strange as to why EU regulators didn't pounce on Microsoft the moment the spying was recognized.
Why are regulators so damn scared of Microsoft?
If people want to be spied on for some perceived advantage then they should be provided with an explicit warning to that effect, then after agreeing they would tick a defaulted-off box to 'on'. Later, if they changed their minds then they could deselect the option.
This is one of the few times I wish hackers would patch out all these loss-of-privacy options at a binary level. I for one would welcome a 'clean' patch utility to do just this. A Linux boot disk with a once-only utility on board to do just that would solve the problem.
In the meantime regulators ought to be forced to take Microsoft to court for blatant privacy violation.
So it's just as easy to read with the lights on or off?
Either there's a desperate shortage of IT managers or his firm pays peanuts.
Employing an idiotic monkey to do skilled work seems somewhat incongruous.
As you say, as Nadella has decided 'Windows *must* collect as much data as it can about users...' is the principle reason I will not upgrade to Windows 10–even if Microsoft were to give me a 10-pack Windows for free to use on any machine of my choosing. Simply, my privacy is worth more than a few freebie trinkets.
Almost equally important is that literally there are thousands of user-orientated changes Microsoft should have implemented in Windows since XP but which it has not.
Most of these omissions are blatantly obvious to savvy techies, they range from ergonomic matters to data management to security issues to even selecting what Windows modules a user wants to use (many I've mentioned in past El Reg posts).
It's a damn nuisance that MS is forcing me away from its Win APIs after 30 years–yes, I've seen it all. If I'd known at the very beginning that Gates et al were only interested in marketing software rather than also simultaneously advancing the state of the art–i.e.: that Gates was bullshitting when he said 'MS needed the freedom to innovate' then I'd have not come within miles of MS products.
Frankly, I feel let down and deserted–in fact conned–by the company that I've supported for so many years. Even though I've been in IT/IT management for years, not once throughout my IT career has Microsoft ever asked any of my colleagues or me what we would want from its Windows O/S.
I used to think this was strange but it's now clear Microsoft doesn't want to know what users actually want–its only concern is maximizing sales/market share (which, as we've seen by not talking with us users, it often gets wrong). To me, such a strategy is truly perverse.
With the advent of Windows 10, many of us users now consider ourselves to be in a post-Windows era. Hopefully, this ought not be for too long, for as we've seen with the phenomenal growth of Android, very soon something better will fill the void left by Windows.
"The problem is proving that the money spent trawling (which is measured in the billions if some reports are to be believed) would not turn up more results if it were spent differently.
Correct. In a democracy, I defy anyone to come up with a more effective scheme that a government can use to escape proper and efficient scrutiny by its citizens than to involve itself in secrecy and surveillance in the name of security. The fundamental–a priori–logic behind government involvement in such activities automatically means that they must remain secret from everyone–the citizenry included.
Government secrecy is a fundamental weakness within the very structure of the democratic process of Western democracies; we citizens have to accept whatever our governments say about such matters irrespective of the questions we put to them for, ipso facto, their silence or answers must always obfuscate. Western democracies never stop proclaiming openness yet 'Everything in the West is secret unless there is a conscious decision to the contrary.' [Ralston Saul]
In an ideal world where the bona fides of our governments were 100% guaranteed then government secrecy carried out with the sole purpose of protecting the citizenry would be acceptable and not in dispute. Trouble is we live in a real world where we have to have regular elections 'to keep the bastards honest', yet The State's security apparatus continues from one regime to the next and escapes such scrutiny every time. (Similar can be said about the diplomatic service whose default modus operandi is secrecy–as history has shown, often wars can start without any effective input from the citizenry.)
History has well demonstrated that secrecy often accedes to unaccountable power. Despite much recent rhetoric from governments to the contrary, there's not just one smoking gun but many which essentially all point to abuse of power by governments at the expense of their citizenries. Furthermore, there's precious little evidence that these abuses have actually made citizens safer–witness the recent attacks in Paris.
If governments had genuine bona fide intentions then, as we've seen with the Paris attacks, their first recourse (excuse) wouldn't be to blame encryption for their surveillance failures especially when there's no supporting evidence [that's been made available to us]. Second, governments are obsessed by secrecy even when there's no longer any need for it, why do they keep old–dead–cases secret forever and a day unless they have something very serious to hide? For example, why do they still keep secret many WWII files after 70+ years when even the most secret of secrets, Enigma, has been made public? As with so many aspects of State security, we are not even told the extent of these ancient files let alone their contents or for the reasons why they continue to remain secret.
[Not for one moment am I advocating that operational matters be broadcast to the world, clearly they should be kept secret for the duration. If it's not already clear then what I'm referring to is the general ongoing secrecy, self-protecting nature, lack of transparency, and unaccountability that surrounds these secret state bureaucracies and that their very presence (given their present structure) is seriously undermining our democracy. If that were not enough, governments have resorted to the age-old tactic of scaring the hell out of citizens by promulgating the highly secret nature of state security–the FUD principle.]
The fact is governments have shown that they cannot be trusted; moreover, our system of governance is sufficiently broken that secrecy that surrounds security remains inviolate, essentially we citizens cannot enter into any meaningful discourse about how to fix it.
Strong encryption is one of the few remaining protections we citizens still possess to keep the intrusive, meddling State at bay. Therefore, we need to wage the strongest possible political fight to keep the status quo. As I see it, if we fail then we're one further step along the road to totalitarianism.
I doubt I'd even respond through embarrassment, it's a credit he did.
Now it's a story, I'd be curious to match his 'misdemeanour' against his posts.
Oui, ça l'est! L'eau gelée permettra d'améliorer votre santé de façon permanente; il suffit d'un peu de temps pour vous geler à mort.
Do I shoot myself now, starve or let cancer get me?
Perhaps the latter is preferable, at least it's enjoyable.
Oh, and I forgot about sex, when's the edict on that producing cancer due?
Now that everything causes cancer, they'd better fix it quick smart or we'll starve.
What's worse, death by cancer or starvation?
No - accountability is easy, you just need to make it a criminal problem and make the directors of said companies liable. It works pretty well in civil and mechanical engineering.
Hasn't worked and international trade agreements have been hijacked by the big boys–that's been a disaster, so they're usually beyond catching, VW is a special case because of vehicular, environmental laws etc. and the fact that they have car subsidiaries in many countries.
The issues many are worried about is the internet of things, etc.–all controlled by secrecy and unaccountable people, it's a first-class recipe for diaster. If VW doesn't get regulators working overtime then sooner or later a power grid infrastructure attack or a dam breach inevitably will do so. It's only a matter of time.
What I am talking about is now well past the IT press such as El Reg. Last week New Scientist magazine had headline articles about the very same issues to which I am referring.
The issues go well beyond just hidden code, we're now seeing users, even governments beginning to raise issues about total design examination–that's to say every aspect of design of a product will come under scrutiny, ipso fact that also means embedded code. Even if not legislated, companies won't get contracts unless every aspect of design comes under examination. Eventually, that will weed the secretive recalcitrant ones out, when they cannot sell stuff they'll change or get out of the business.
A final point: even you say copying and compiling software is a trivial exercise and protection is difficult. I say any company that's serious about it can easily reverse-engineer embedded code; there's reams of evidence for it.
So why resist? There's precious little point.
" > The fact that a huge industry of making secret embedded software has built up over the past 30 years doesn't make secrecy right.
I didn't say it did, I just want to know how I'm not going to starve when everyone in the world can copy my software for zero cost.
No you didn't. I did. And it's a fact. That's what actually happened.
Until now, there's been no social/moral debate across society about the changes in manufacturing, secret embedded code, hidden proprietary designs etc. The fact that a huge mob like VW has been caught out is excellent, it's brought the issues I've been warning against for years to the fore. VW has done more to warn the public about the dangers of embedded code than the rest of us together could ever do in a lifetime, and that's wonderful. It's now firmly on the public agenda. Great stuff!
If they can examine it, they can copy it, as DRM has proven time and time again.
Tough titty! Poor diddums! It's against the law now so what on earth are you worried about? USE THE BLOODY LAW TO PROTECT YOURSELF, THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR!
I suspect–in fact I know–many embedded software writers have gotten used to doing things in secret and the thought of scrutiny of any kind since VW is horrifying them. Well good riddance. Tough luck. If the fire's too hot then leave the room. If you're a second-rater that's been protected by compilation/secrecy then perhaps the VW case is a warning for you to get out. Start doing things that are morally and ethically correct for a change.
Remember, modern manufacturing goes back over 10 generations; its practice is well established and understood. Your embedded stuff just one generation. And in just one generation alone see what the sleazebags have done with compilation and secrecy (and VW is just the tip of the iceberg). I anticipate by the end of the second generation things probably will have returned to normal. Let's hope so.
Don't forget. As it is, many people in my game can reverse engineer embedded stuff and they do so when necessary, I've seen it happen many times. Compilation just stops hacks such as those who work for the govt, for those in the know it's just an inconvenience. And, a very tiny one at that if you've big industrial resources behind you–an afternoon's exercise sort of problem.
Don't kid yourself.
"The big downside of open source software is that it doesn't work as a business unless (1) you make hardware and sell it at a high enough price to cover the hardware cost or (2) you get a sugar daddy."
I deliberately didn't use the 'source' with 'open', that means it is not 'open source' but rather the end user can examine it.
This is in keeping with longstanding practice–at least since the start of the Industrial Revolution–where equipment, machinery etc. came with manuals complete with blueprints and circuit diagrams. Thus, both the internal workings and functional operation were not hidden from the operator/user.
This openness didn’t concern companies as they were protected by copyrights and patents from at least the early 1700s onwards.
Let's just take a few recent examples: Hewlett Packard, Tektronix and IBM. HP and Tektronix built their reputations not only on good equipment but also excellent documentation. Tektronix's documentation is renowned, probably the best ever made–I suggest you download a few 7000 series scope manuals and look at them. Next IBM: I have a complete set of manuals for the XT and AT computers and included therein is the complete BIOS source code. Before the PC, IBM also produced some of the best documentation ever made.
Producing good 'open' documentation never sent these companies broke, in fact quite the contrary, it made them money and enhanced their repuation.
That changed in the 1980s when people started taking advantage of the fact that compilation hid what they were doing. It often let them get away with software 'murder': errors, bad design, and spaghetti code and etc., etc. The fact that the source was hidden meant that it was very difficult to make them accountable, and when bugs surfaced and patches made no one quite knew whether the faults had been fixed or not.
If you've ever taken the time to disassemble this code you'll know what I mean. You'll also know that it is very difficult, laborious and time-consuming, which for most intents and purposes, means that it's hidden from scrutiny.
What we're witnessing here is 300 years of 'open' practice pitted against at most 30 years of the 'secret'. We're now seeing what that secrecy means across many fields and endeavours, and often what we're seeing isn't very pretty. In fact, it's beginning to look as if the secrecy that surrounds embedded software has enabled one of the biggest industrial frauds of all time to take place. That can't be undone, and it hasn't gone unnoticed–and that includes regulators.
The fact that a huge industry of making secret embedded software has built up over the past 30 years doesn't make secrecy right–just because you can do it doesn't always mean that you should. I've been in this game a while and I'll be very surprised if this VW case doesn't become a point of inflection for the industry.
At last, the world will learn about the dangers of embedded software. Even here at El Reg posts I've been howled down in the past when I've raised such matters as unknown functions and security issues in ASICs, reprogrammable firmware etc.
Once our hardware was fixed at design time or its function could only be altered by DIL switches etc. Today, things are very different, with downloadable and updateable firmware users–even experts and maintenance people–now have very little idea about what's going on with respect to the functionality of their equipment.
With the exposure of VW's corrupt practices, this 'hidden' IT issue ought to be catapulted to front and centre stage; even the pollies and 'blind' company directors will have to take note and act.
Exactly what embedded software does is and will be an extremely important issue for the Internet of Things (and now everyone ought to know that). In fact, it's so important that in many instances it ought to be mandatory for embedded software source to be openly* available to users, regulators etc. (as it used to be in the handbooks of machines and equipment of only a few decades ago).
* If there are legitimate safety reasons etc.for not altering or updating firmware then manufactures can use non-reprogrammable chips, but hiding their operation is another matter altogether. Unfortunately, that might be the price of safety over convenience.
A class action to charge MS for the download fees/time would stop them. Ultimately, that ought to cost MS many billions.
Pushed downloads STEAL your internet fees (especially on wireless connections which I use)! Getting governments to change laws so pushed downloads are specifically illegal without specific user-initiated consent would also help. If we steal MS code the shit hits the fan.
If MS steals our internet time zilch happens. Now who's fault is that? Us of course, as we've done fuck-all about it for years.
Personally, I've solve the problem completely by not allowing Microsoft Update with 50 feet of any of my PCs. I've never even seen an MS notice/request re Win 10. Now, isn't that wonderful?
Duh, of course the title is supposed to read "...very unexpected."
All Vodafone needs to do to attract customers is to differentiate its prices with respect to Telstra.
Telstra's rates are outrageously high by world standards and everybody in Oz is screaming about it–and they're itching to go elsewhere. When Vodafone or whoever lowers their rates people will switch.
They will not switch for piddling price differences however, but they will if there's real price competition and to date there's been none.