407 posts • joined Thursday 5th July 2007 10:13 GMT
Re: still behind.
I'd love to know why you think microsoft are so far behind??? - because market data.
Get a reality check!! - really?
I had written a longer answer, but since you seem to be incoherent, I'll stop here.
Well, she's saying all the right things, but still hasn't addressed the core problem for MS in the mobile world - they are playing catchup and an 18 month delay to pulling their mobile OSes together is not good enough. Android and IOS will have progressed further in that time and any number of competitors could be in the market by then. MS are essentially saying its going to take them nearly another 2 years to join Apple and Google in their ongoing dual OS strategy, a poor show from a software house majoring on OSes....
Ooooh Shiny shiny
I cannot for the life of me see what Twitter can offer to an investor outside of the potential to throw advertisements at people. Surely at 26$ a share, the price is going to collapse. Facebook didn't exactly cover itself in glory with its IPO last year, but unlike Twitter (which I like and use by the way) it is not a 1 trick pony. So a handful of people get mega rich and everyone else gets commercials in their feed and thats it.
The rise of Whatsapp et al and the continued existence of Facebook and Google + surely puts the value of Twitter at serious risk?
Maybe thats where Blackberry are going wrong? They should just sell everything and become Blackberry Messenger and directly rival Twitter?
I wish I owned Twitter. I'd be minted today.
Re: iPhone batteries are replaceable
Yes but could a non-tech savvy relative to the same thing?
All of which makes Apple the expensive version of google.
I am aware of MS's cloud integration. But my argument is this:
Today I can go out and buy a laptop branded with Apple or Google's logo, running their "free" operating system and make use of their "free" productivity apps and store my work on their integrated cloud storage.
The price of this with Google starts at £199. With Apple its £849.
I know you can do additional stuff with OSX, but on the basis of what the majority do i.e. internetting, some multimedia, mail and a couple of documents, Google provide the better option.
With Apple giving away its OS, Google Chrome suddenly makes a hell of alot of sense. Outside of their own chromebook, any device with web access and a variant of Chrome browser does the exact same thing. So really with taking aim at Microsoft, surely Apple have just positioned themselves as an expensive Google?
Free apps for productivity
Cloud storage integration
Re: old ipad still too expensive
Its still for sale cos Apple know the dangers of holding stacks of old stock, so they do what they do best, re-market it.
Re: Hard Acts to Follow
Just like google's. Their apps are free too. And its only big news if you own an intel based Mac.
Hard Acts to Follow
Cook and David Moyes could console each other on how the last boss made their lives so much harder...
Today was a day of meh from Apple, Nokia took the spoils.
Re: It could have been so good... :(
Its also why Linux has not been taken on by the masses - fragmentation. Multiple versions multiple interfaces. Its main strength is also its main weakness - people need a consistent experience (hence the uproar going Win7 to Win 8).
Well for all the blood sweat and tears, I like it. It feels like the product Windows 8 should have been originally, but now its here, it feels like a decent OS. It boots straight to desktop, the start screen is very customisable and the Skydrive integration is much better.
The return of the start button is f**king pointless however.
Re: It could have been so good... :(
"Microsoft for some reason wants to be the beginning and the end of computing each time someone invents or unlocks a market "
Apple make all the hardware and software and you cannot use OSX on NON-Apple hardware (but you can run Windows on Apple machines) Lets remember, MS make software (regardless of if you like how it looks) that runs on shedloads of devices, including the most frankenstein of homebuild PCs.
Linux provides this service too, however looking at the Linux posterboy Ubuntu, they are now trying to emulate Microsoft, putting Unity across every device type and trying to tie it all together. Eventually, they will have to try and monetize their efforts for the existing investment (time, money) to have longevity.
And Google and their Chrome OS. They provide a nice twist to the conversation in that you pretty much get the OS experience by using the Chrome browser and a gmail account.
And lets not forget 1 thing - this lot are in business to make money. They are going to try and grab as much of their industry as possible to make as healthy a profit as possible.
Re: Its the UI changes that kill it for me...
Windows 8.1 - Put a shortcut to the browser on the desktop and tick the "boot to desktop" option that bypasses the menu screen. And anyways - with the applications being represented by big icons and bright colours, surely this is a better option for grandma??
Re: Still not enough
"it is easy to see why they have lost their old position as the de facto OS and software supplier of choice."
Thats only in the consumer world. In business they still have the game.
Re: Same old same old.....
Betamax vs VHS eh?
Re: Hey...there's PLENTY more to come.
iWatch? iTV anyone? No. These are not innovations, these are already in the market from other providers/manufacturers. Its the quality and performance that could be improved upon, but this still isn't innovation.
As for your Phone choice - LG or Google from now on really isn't it?
I assume this also includes all the generic Chinese tables kicking around as well?
three is fine by me
Even in remote parts of Northern Ireland I can get a 16mb line and in the office its those on the 3 network who are happy enough to set up tethering to stream sky sports to the plasma screen on the wall. No other network compares. As for bundled merde like Spotify - keep it. I source my own content.
"imrpoving" should be improving
"people with on a daily basis" should be "people deal with on a daily basis"
And i think that whole sentence reads badly, but you all seem to to get the drift....
Re: "Not a saint"
Jobs was as big a crook.
You completely missed the point. Gates is aware of and indeed backs the use of tech for imrpoving quality of life. However, the diseases and awful conditions the people with on a daily basis, will not find salvation on a website, but in medicines and clean drinking water and a safe food supply. I'm all for the remote clinic idea for instance, but it is no use if the people cannot leave their homes due to being ravished by painful and crippling conditions.
0) You could learn about Malaria and how to avoid catching it from the internet. <- and still go out and drink from your only water supply, full of feces and god knows what else.
1) You could use the internet to ask for medical assistance. <-Or approach the medical staff who have medicines with them, backed by international health organisations
2) You could use the internet to help you find the nearest clinic. <- and not get to it because you are too weak, possibly blind and have a family to attend to.
3) You could use the internet to discover how to treat malaria and acquire appropriate treatments. <-what, using paypal accounts full of sand?
As google's bitch i'll be buying one. Netflix and all my google play purchases fired on to the telly with no fuss and minimal cost? whats not to like?
Re: mint - linux year of the desktop?
Its been painful being a Linux fan and a Liverpool supporter - every year etc...
I have played with Linux for years, but quite frankly I find myself back in the Windows world every time. My Linux machines have all become VMs. Why?
Windows is less hassle. Its full of flaws, but they are familiar and easy to live with flaws. With Linux I was always compelled to tinker for the perfect setup, which I never achieved because I was always looking to tinker....
Have to agree with them
Music is being cheapened and turned into a commodity. So what if the manufacturer of the product wants to protect their right to make money from it? Yes its nice to get something a bit cheaper but frankly if your going to be an arsehole over cost then you deserve the flack that comes with it.
To Peter R. 1 - you have a choice as a consumer to buy or not to buy multiple copies of DSOTM. Don't go bitching just because another format has popped up. you could always go on ebay for a portable CD player...
Pink Floyd produced a body of work that millions have enjoyed for decades and most likely for decades to come. They deserve to reap the benefits to their fullest extent.
We have a piece that says Apple are playing catchup and have been out-manouvered by other OSes and all they have really done is add some polish yet "Specifications aside, the interface hasn't aged well."
So the writer's fanboism shines through for shiny shiny??
Its a good jobs for Apple that content is king.
On a side note, the new Mac Pro looks fantastic. That would be a nice machine to own.
This really doesn't sounds like MS have caught on to what is about to kill them in the consumer OS market.
Re: Balmer is safe because...
I don't think the board would try to get Gates to step back in, but he would certainly be in the hot seat when it comes to Steve's (his great buddy) replacement. Awkward for all. MS (like Apple's share price is finding) need to get a tech visionary in the top spot quickly otherwise companies like Google are going to take them out of the consumer market completely.
I wonder if MS have the problem of no one in the position to step into the role? Is SB still there because he is the ONLY option at the minute? At least Apple have Mr Ive to call upon...
what a load of
I was promised a £40 content bundle from Sammy for my S4 due to the inconvenience caused by delays. It seems this "exclusive" is part of the apology. It depressed me when I realised I wasn't getting anything worthwhile out of that £40.
ITV is muck. I bet its worse on a 5" screen.
Re: Metro always looked useless to me as a desktop UI.
"Metro apps and muck"
Should read "Metro apps are muck".
Don't know how I did that, but the point is the same. Metro is muck.
Re: Metro always looked useless to me as a desktop UI.
Holly Willoughby still couldn't get me to a Windows Phone. I think James Corden ruined all the good work she did.
I don't miss the start button but I hate the fact that Metro apps and muck and how the start screen interacts with the desktop environment is bloody painful. If they pull Win 8 back to a Win 7 position with metro taking a supporting and not a starring role, then it might be worth the money.
where is the fun in that? When you can post a comment and make a cheap joke.
"1020p full HD"? Is that Apple doing their own thing again?
I've been stung by the poor software on HTC handsets, so this time I'm going where the action is. I have never used a S3, so all the reviews that directly compare the two are a bit pointless to me. This handset will be bang up to date for ages (Sensation XE was superseded within a month of ownership) and has enough of a balance of gimmicks and power to keep my interest. So what if S-translate is muck? Sat nav on the 5" screen will make up for that for me personally.
Swings and roundabouts, this one being more swings...
Time to go Steve
MS are in a perfect storm of their own making. They got lazy and allowed the mobile and cloud markets to run off without them. With controversial approaches to Office and Windows not going down well with either enterprise or consumers, their highly detrimental and desperate focus of competing in the tablet market has ruined the PC market and lost them some already struggling friends. They look like a firm without a clue how to get back into the game and a radical change of thinking is needed at the top.
I doubt many would shed a tear for MS at this difficult time. Particularly with a dinosaur at the helm in a market where you need either a visionary, or an in touch-with-the-modern-world CEO, neither of which Ballmer seems to be.
Its not always bad news. I get my house alarm serviced in return for a bit of IT support/web work. But really, its all people looking a freebie... As said in many comments, they wouldn't expect a plumber mate to come round and do it for free....
Re: @Christopher Rogers
Well considering the money the govt. has thrown at BT to improve the network, the model in place should have been sufficient, but obviously BT's commercial concerns (read bottom line) absorb the taxpayers money.
Hopefully Liberty Global can help the UK push on.
BT - Behind the Times. Broadband is not in good hands in the UK.
Re: Yes, very impressive BT.
Correct. For all their bleating on, Broadband in the UK is still the poor relation. The sooner we sell the network to the Japanese the better.
This is a compelling phone, but I'm gonna need some hands on time with it, an S4 and a Windows Phone before I commit to upgrading my Sensation XE.
The XE had potential by the bucket load but is badly let down by the software, so HTC already have that against them. Also, this missing button interface. A step too far away from normal Android (for instance, if I decide to root the device and slap on a ROM?)
Lack of wireless charging? Some cool new tech not in a flagship device.....
Lack of SD slot used to annoy me, but frankly I've got over myself. I either use online services, or FTP to my home NAS. My 3 wifi gives me plenty of headroom for that.
All in al though, it looks like phones have hit that point of being powerful enough to do everything. I look forward to key lime pie.
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