2726 posts • joined 5 Jul 2007
Re: It's aliens!!!
"Is it coming from Mars?"
It's you that say it is.
Seriously? No, it's coming from Florida, when they fired that gun at the Moon but sadly missed. Poor Michel Ardan...
Re: It's aliens!!!
Nah, what are the chances of that happening? A million to one, I'd say...
"...and came to rest standing up at its full height."
Is it monolithic? Full of stars, perhaps?
Doesn't it clearly show?
That anonymous access to public Wi-Fi is unacceptable in a modern society where it can be hijacked by all sorts of hooligans, extremists and maybe even Ukrainians? Good job it has now been made safely illegal in Russia. Oh... wait a minute...
Re: @MyffyW Each year we get the 'new words' announcement...
"if I'm nailing my colours to any airship mast it has to be R100."
That's perfectly fine with me. After all, they both used the same mast, didn't they? :-)
@MyffyW Re: Each year we get the 'new words' announcement...
"Nothing beats taking a charabanc to the aerodrome."
Oh, this almost sounds like a line from Curly's Airships :-)
"Within a month a million trippers
Came to Cardington to see her,
As she floated at the head of a mast
As tall as Nelson's Column.
The charabancs stacked up, three deep,
Along the Bedford Road,
To watch us joy-riding
The Great and the Good."
'Her' is the R.101, of course...
Re: What about forriners?
My experience shows that people in the West are even more easily manipulated than in Russia. Perhaps this is because here people tend to think that what they hear/read/watch in the media is all true, while in Russia people are skeptical a priori.
I find the "freedom of speech" here is very much restricted as well, but only by using more subtle social engineering and by "political correctness". It's not yet at the level of Russia but it's getting closer and closer.
Also, if you look closely, the freedom of speech in Russia is fairly "democratic" - if you hold an opinion widely shared by the majority - you can pretty much say what you like. The problem is what happens when your opinion diverges...
Re: What about forriners?
Just like China, Russia has not quite got the idea of democracy at all, and the last thing the powers-that-be want is to be questioned by folk they can't simply "disappear".
Unlike in China and Russia, the Western governments understand the idea of democracy very well. Therefore, they first make sure that the majority of the voting population is properly scared into demanding the respective government to urgently implement these things in order to protect children and kill terrorists.
You heard HMG criticising China for censorship of the Internet, right? Well, that was simply because our government was jealous of the Chinese...
Actually, I first heard such suggestion in a Soviet popular science TV program back in 1990 or so...
Then there is Buzz Aldrin's 1996 novel "Encounter with Tiber" which describes a starship propulsion system based on Casimir effect and, of course, 2004-released Half-Life 2 with its "zero-point energy field manipulator"...
"The fact that they got something out of deliberate setup designed NOT to work casts doubts on the validity of experiment."
Actually, it doesn't. All it does put in doubt is the underlying hypothesis of why and how it should work, which is what they themselves admit.
"It also does not help that they did not perform the experiment in vacuum."
That is true, because there may conceivably be some conventional mechanisms involved, creating thrust through interaction with the surrounding air (ionisation etc). Let's hope they will test in a vacuum soon (once they change the capacitors to vacuum-hardened ones).
Re: If it works outside of Earths magnetic field
I'll tell you what - if this thing works by pushing against the Earth magnetic field (it doesn't but, anyway), I'll still take it. Will come in just perfect for my flying car/landspeeder/swoop.
Re: Sorry but they did test it in (fairly good) _vacuum_, didn't they? Tell me they did.
No, they didn't. And that is a potential problem - until that thing is tested free-flying in space there will still remain a possibility that the thrust might be caused by some unaccounted for conventional factor.
Having said this, they have done some elimination tests - like putting one of the devices backwards and replacing the "thruster" with a dumb load.
Re: Forget about the solar panels!
"Nuclear is EVIL"
Eh, Hans? What specifically is it that makes nuclear evil? How? Please explain.
Secondly, how does the heaviness of something rule it out in space?
Forget about the solar panels!
Nuclear power is what this thing is made for.
This device means that, finally, a lot of sci-fi novels have just become simple fiction, not sci-fi anymore. Spaceships flying between planets at will, without the need for reaction mass - we have just passed a singularity in space exploration and human civilization expansion and the world at large have barely even noticed. Wow.
Sure, P51. My bad, was distracted...
Also, P52 Mustangs looked like their only future was going to scrapyards until they were reengined with Merlins (or licence-built Packards version later).
Re: NSA spying on prez
"The KGB got to be a self-preserving entity that rose above the law. USA three-letter agencies have done the same."
That is so true.
All "intelligence" organisations in the world are primarily concerned with preservation of their own power (and funding).
They do it, primarily, by falsly claiming to the public that some other country is their mortal enemy and then assuring, equally falsely, the same public that they can protect them.
Secondarily, they preserve their power and funding by black-mailing politicians...
Re: Pootie's playpen
To Russia? Gee, I sure hope so,
a democracyoligarchy extraditing people to an oppressive fascist dictatorship wouldn't be a good thing at all.
Fixed it for you and for other wide-eyed innocents who like to live in denial and think that raising flags and singing national anthems in the morning is called "freedom"...
Really tiring arm-chair lawyering here...
The main thing for me is he is claiming he could have sold copies of the picture for 10k over these few years. I call that complete bullshit. He may have got 2k in the first year, true, on a novelty factor. But, once that pic showed up in a couple of trendy magazines no one would have paid 10p for it afterwards...
So, copyright or no copyright, his claim is an attempt at wringing some cash out of an exhausted asset at someone else's expense. This kind of behaviour is what gives "copyright" a bad name.
Paid-off, Industry-Promoting, Corrupt Unit
@Cipher Re: I don't buy it
Clear now, yes.
This actually looks like a dig at the Hollywood rather than the entire US of A, and at utility of referring to movies in an argument about real things. I think you are being oversensitive here a bit...
Re: I don't buy it
"Gratuitous anti American remarks..."
Did you really think that AI stands for "American Intelligence"??
Not sure what is the USP on this
Putting myself in the shoes of a potential customer I am unclear what would the product give me:
- it is an externally attached piece of equipment (so has to be lugged about at all times, because you don't know just when a hurricane/meteor/nuclear strike might happen and if you don't have it around it's like the length of runway behind or the altitude above your aeroplane - pretty useless)
- it will only work if the person you expect to communicate with in the case of a disaster would also have the same equipment with him/her at all times.
IMHO if you have to meet these two conditions you will be better off just buying a pair of walky-talkies, giving one to your girlfriend and agree you both will always carry them with you.
And then I don't think that even if you post images of President Putin with horns and a forked tail on every billboard you will be able to scare enough people into adopting the product in numbers sufficient to make it commercially sustainable.
It's either that or maybe I just misunderstood the way this product is supposed to work.
A bit of a consolation...
It's not that the US doesn't like Germans, it's simply that Germany has not yet fallen in line with the orders for the Cold War II with Russia, at least not enthusiastically enough.
Re: alternate reality??
"What are we missing?"
I personally think
They have served whatever purpose they were meant to serve and were on their way out (or to retirement in the form of birdies). They were only nuked from orbit as a precaution, because that's the only way to be sure, you know...
This sounds very interesting for things like remote sensing (I'm sure the Curiosity would love to have such a device on it) but for comms?
Isn't it much easier to just modulate 1 weak laser with your signal and use it for any length of time you want than to fire a Gatlingful of high-power beams just so that your blinking flashlight could be seen from a distance for a millisecond or so?
Re: EVER NOTICE ...
"if Russia seized the Buk at its border and made it available for inspection. They didn't. It's been hidden, which lends itself to the presumption that its being tampered with or destroyed."
The value of the actual Buk which launched the missile is close to 0 in this investigation. All the evidence that is required is at the site of the crash. And I see nothing supporting a presumption that the rebels are interfering with that evidence.
"The missile system that downed the plane was Russian"
I honestly don't see the relevance of that. Of course, it was Russian, they all are. Doesn't mean that Russia is accountable for every use of its weapons by anyone in the world. If you mean this in broader terms - that Russia is supporting the rebels when it shouldn't, well, that's a totally different discussion...
"The damage being done to Russia's international standing will define it for many years."
The damage is in the eye of the beholder. When the US cruiser shot down an Iranian airliner in the Persian Gulf the US Government gave the captain a medal and were generally quite smug about it.
"What has happened is a tragedy, and its time for accountability, not politics."
Accountability is of no value here if we are talking about finding and punishing the person who pressed the "Launch" button. The true accountability for this? Is it with the succession of the Ukrainian leadership who neglected their duties in favour of lining their own pockets? Is it with the US who cynically played that situation in order to create a cold war casus belli with Moscow? Is it with Russia, who support what they think is a rightful rebellion against foreign interference by hostile powers? Is it, perhaps, with all of them?
Re: EVER NOTICE ...
"A fecking great missile launcher is video'd entering Ukraine from Russia a short while before the plane is destroyed and the same one is then video'd making a hasty return to Russia, sans one missile, just days afterwards."
This is totally different from what is happening on the crash site. The people who fired the missile are unlikely to be even in the same group of rebels as those who guard the site. There are no "central" authorities there. There are groups of "militia" mixed from locals and foreign (Russian, Chechen etc) fighters and they would trade their loyalty for funding and weapons with the "leaders". Their allegiances may and do change on a weekly basis.
As for the video "evidence" - for myself I disregard it completely. Whose TELAR was transported, when, where even? The Russians recently presented satellite pictures apparently showing Ukrainian Buks in the area, one of which having been moved on the day of the shooting. Whose evidence is more evident? Americans were claiming they also have evidence but are now saying "no links to Russia"?
I recommend to reserve judgement about any such "evidence" for the time being.
"International experts were only allowed access to the site a couple of days ago."
International experts only reached the site 3 days ago, whereupon they were given full access.
Previously, a team of OSCE observers arrived and they were escorted around the site but not allowed full access.
Precisely why the experts only arrived on Sunday is not clear to me - the rebels are blaming Kiev and accusing them of deliberate procrastination. Knowing a bit about Ukraine I can say that procrastination is their authorities' favourite pass-time in the best of times... However, I noticed that the things started to move only after Kiev said they handed over control over the investigation to the Dutch.
Overall, it seem like a "normal" spat between 2 warring factions in a civil war and not an attempt to specifically hide or tamper with evidence. I am actually impressed by the fact that any bodies collection, cordoning of the area etc have been done at all. Try crashing a plane in Nigeria and see what happens afterwards...
Re: EVER NOTICE ...
"Were they actually "freedom fighters" then they'd own up to the mistake, face trial at ICC, and take their punishement on the chin."
I have to admit, I never heard of any freedom fighters anywhere in the world who would do things like that. A British MP would sooner voluntarily own up to fiddling his expenses...
"Leaving bodies in fields for days on end while you hide the evidence in Russia correlates more strongly with terrorism than freedom fighting."
But they were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. As soon as they started collecting the bodies they were immediately accused of stealing them, using corpses as leverage and almost of any other crime against humanity short of cannibalism.
Also, the hiding of evidence didn't seem to be going on either. If you dig through reports even on the BBC it is clear that journalists or any other international experts who did not look like they were working directly for Kiev were given access to the site pretty much all along.
Re: The definition of terrorism is too broad
Cogito ergo terroris.
Or something like that...
Re: He must have missed the memo
"he's actually one of the good guys"
Ah, that explains why he hasn't been CC'd.
He must have missed the memo
That was the whole idea.
That's fire? Eh, wussy... He's been living like a little girl in the middle of his little world...
Fire! I'll take you to burn!
That's because they use so much energy to make the "pew-pew" sound in a vacuum.
Re: H2G2 style
"This HAS to be joke."
No. This is the merging of Star Wars and the Addams Family franchises and it opens the exciting possibilities of maximising the merchandising power of the synergetic union of those two thrilling dark force legacy family entertainment. And taking the Mickey...
Although I'm puzzled how he managed to claim the group occupation record being there alone... Oh. What do you mean, "my precioussss"?
Re: So sad
"if Putin and/or the rebels are truly innocent, they should have immediately cordoned off the area and said "nobody's getting here until the experts who will exonerate us because we didn't do this.""
That's exactly what they have done, haven't they?
"Picking credit cards off corpses like medieval bandits and carting away bodies like Slavic Eichmanns is, how you say, incriminatory by definition."
You are just embarrassing yourself. BBC: MH17 bodies out of Ukraine rebel area
Re: Blame game?
Oh, is that Putin's cunning plan - remove the insignia from the uniforms but keep the number plates? Mmmm'kay...
Re: @Gordon861 So sad
"The things you were attributing to them, and you were because you put them in quotes. They ain't there."
I'm sorry, they are. They've been repeating them on TV all day long yesterday and before.
"go and find an article in RT in the last 6 months that's been critical of Putin."
I don't generally recommend watching RT - may be bad for your health. But if there are any articles on BBC that are critical of the Western leader's position towards the Ukrainian crisis or providing objective analysis of the MH17 developments - they are few and far between, unfortunately.
Re: So sad
"they are in control of the area and not cooperating!"
People here seem to think that Donetsk is somewhere in Switzerland or something. Not in an Eastern European country torn by a civil war and right in the middle of a conflict zone.
"Now, they have attempted to remove evidence, have not handed over the black boxes (we know they have them) and are preventing the international commission of carrying out their work."
Anyone with a head on their shoulders would have been able to predict that the rebels will not cooperate with the government they are fighting against. Why would you give anything to people who have already proclaimed you guilty?
As far as I can see - there is no international commission yet. The Kiev government claimed control over the investigation and started with declaring their conclusions before even seeing the evidence. All the claims about removing the evidence have been originating from them. They have finally been told to cede control to the Dutch, who are already arrived at the scene and are already inspecting the "stolen" bodies.
I am not saying the rebels didn't shoot the plane down, they probably did, but, FFS, bull-shit is bull-shit, no matter who is it coming from.
Re: Blame game?
"The missile launch site is unlikely to have been in an areal that had a lot of passers-by with smartphones."
The farthest the launcher could be from the plane at the moment of the missile strike is some 25 km. There are towns and villages all around that area. There is no place to completely hide something as conspicuous as launch of a big supersonic missile - it would have been seen for miles around.
"Personally, I believe it was the separatists."
Let's face it - that is the most likely scenario. It has been reported that they have overrun a Ukrainian military base in the area which was known to have Buk systems kept there. They then either asked Russia to provide instructors or relied on their own people who might have had an experience of operating the system. Whoever they used has then fundamentally screwed up.
But, there is still non-zero probability of alternative explanations. A rogue or bribed Ukrainian unit could have done it, with or without Kiev's complicity. Then there may not have been a missile at all - it is possible that someone has it for Malaysian Airlines and the place of the disaster is a coincidence.
The latter one will hopefully be confirmed or ruled out pretty quickly, once the wreckage is examined by specialists. The question of rebels v loyalists is not going to go away anytime soon.
One thing is totally certain - the West will continue to blame Russia no matter what.
@Gordon861 Re: So sad
"Anything said by the RT channel needs to be looked at as if it has been supplied by FOX News, if not even worse"
I regret to admit that the BBC's standards of reporting this are not any better. It is disgusting to see how a tragedy is being quite cynically used to whip out a new cold-war type propaganda brain-shower for the feeble-minded.
"Terrorists don't give the investigators access!" - but the investigators are sitting in Kiev, listening to scary stories being told by the government. The OSCE observers are there on the site but they are not allowed to touch it - because they are supposed to be observers.
"Terrorists are destroying evidence and stealing bodies!" - but what do you expect them to do? Let the bodies rot and be eaten by wildlife? Would you like to look at a few days-old corpse of a child with guts spilled out, infested with maggots and covered with flies? They are doing the only reasonable thing that can be done while the high politics is playing out its course - preserve the bodies as best they could.
"Putin must provide access to the crash site!" - oh, is that really what they want? Because they may just get it - when Putin moves the troops across the border and secures the site.
Re: Good god almighty...
El_Fev, you're silly rabbit! Of course, nobody blames the Jews. They have a perfect alibi - they've been beating the crap out of the Palestinians all this time.
Re: Blame game?
A missile launch nearby make a great deal more noise than an exploding aircraft 10km in the sky. You would hear bang!-shh-wooshhhhhhhhhhh-dong! The last part - as the shockwave of missile going supersonic reaches you...
You also missed the bit about the trail of smoke. That particular missile's motor burns for 15 seconds - plenty of time to get your phone out and start shooting.
Re: All Putin's fault
You see? All this appeasement and soft approach - and he nearly borked the Register already!
Re: All Putin's fault
"Would this fix involve invading the Beeb?"
I don't know, but of late, calling on Putin and sanctions seem to be the magic solution being proposed by and on BBC for every minor and major world problem, so I thought - maybe I should suggest that all-winning move as well?
All Putin's fault
He must be called to fix the BBC site immediately and tougher sanctions must be imposed when he doesn't.
"You can get a lot more science for your buck using machinery to do your exploring"
This, sir, is just manifestly not true.
If you want line of sight PTT why not just by a VHF transceiver aka walky-talky?
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