* Posts by JLV

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MacPorts project leaving Apple’s OS Forge

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Re: Didn't know they were still around

Homebrew's got some good rep going for it, true.

But MacPorts seems to work just fine for me in practice (since 2009-2010).

No hassles, packages I want are available, no security snafus reported... This is strictly my perception as a user, did not try to upload package changes onto their service. Nor to change ports itself.

If it changes for the worse, yes, I know I can count on Homebrew - good feedback overall - but for now I am happy enough with them.

The move to GitHub? Probably a good thing overall. If done right, users won't notice the switch much.

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Password strength meters promote piss-poor paswords

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Re: Passwords need to be rethought

>because the crook did it first

Well the user couldn't log in that case. So...

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Microsoft has open-sourced PowerShell for Linux, Macs. Repeat, Microsoft has open-sourced PowerShell

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id and ego conflicts???

MS Jekyll - No more of this cancer stuff. Open source is good, openness rules. Let's go beyond Mono and open up .Net. You know, let's add bash to Windows. Let's be hip and cool. Let's support Linux on Azure. Let's use 8 and 10 to clean up a lot of underlying cruft in the old XP stack.

MS Hyde - Ribbon. Metro UI! We rulez and know best!

MS Jekyll - After Win 8, we need to be nicer. Let's upgrade our customers to Win 10 for free.

MS Hyde - Yummm! Telemetry. Yummm! All your data belongs to us. Forced Win 10 upgrades. We know best.

MS Jekyll - SQL Server on Linux!

MS Hyde - I know, let's send out an Anniversary Edition before QA is done on it. ME, AE, same difference. Let's pretend we use Telemetry to figure out our customer preferences. But then... aha, totally ignore whatever UI/behavior changes they request from us.

MS Jekyll - Powershell for everyone. Go talk to customers, meet your customers where they are. We’re confident that if we help our customers be successful we’re going to prosper.

MS Hyde -

... not there yet, but I am willing MS is more than able to bazooka its feet off several times in the near future.

Truly, I wonder how MS can be so bipolar these days??? How can it move on significant cultural changes, like accepting that it's got to play with others? And be even more bloody arrogant, and incompetent, than it ever was under Bill? Esp when "good MS" is mostly visible to geeks, but "bad MS" makes the front page news quite often these days.

There is the seed for a more mature, respectful company, but they insist on chucking it out.

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Re: What is the shell?

You're right, it's easy to miss "and so on".

However, rather than immediately furiously typing away my outrage, I reread the sentence. This is the Reg, give the writer at least some benefit of the doubt that he knows basic IT notions.

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Penetration tech: BAE Systems' new ammo for Our Boys and Girls

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Good article, but one thing I would have liked more details about is how the round ended up being _heavier_ as a result of cutting out lead.

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True, but on the opposite end of the spectrum, the Depleted Uranium rounds fired by the A-10s gun makes for really bad PR after the fact. Lots of current wars end up being waged in a counter-insurgency context and excessively messing up the place up for the locals is not a clear path to hearts and minds.

So, if it's all the same, why not clean it up? Though I totally get and appreciate your quip!

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Microsoft to overhaul Windows 10 UI – with a 3D Holographic Shell

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go, MS, go!

I totally trust them with this one.

An immersive equivalent of Charms and Metro modes:

- you never quite know how to trigger it when you're not in it

- once triggered, you can't figure out how to exit

Fun times in VR indeed

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More gums than Jaws: Greenland super-sharks live past 400 years old

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Re: Typical specimen is older than America

From sharks to Stasi clones and dry cleaning protocols*...

Commentards never cease to amaze.

* Bill was barred from reelection by the 22nd amendment rather than by his aim.

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Business users force Microsoft to back off Windows 10 PC kill plan

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Re: Microsoft start listening to people outside your bubble

Be careful what you wish for if Linux Office is anything like MS Office 2008 on a Mac. Shudder. Manages to have all the warts but different, worse and certainly unfamiliar, UI.

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Re: 'Fraid not

> stop Microsoft from wasting billions on failed acquisitions like Nokia and Acquantive

LinkedIn? I hear chairs are getting nervous again and local dry cleaners are gearing up their armpit sweat cleaning machinery.

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Intel's latest diversity report shows numbers at a standstill

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It's a complex issue for sure. At the company level, I don't buy the "won't understand our customers" much. And, while we shouldn't tolerate negative hiring discrimination, there is little joy in having incompetent coworkers of any color. And, yes, there are cultural problems within some minorities.

But, at a larger scale, once your country has sizeable minorities, it is in everyone's long term interest that large segments of the population are capable to fully participate in economic opportunities. If that doesn't happen everyone else gets stuck with societal unrest, possibly criminal activity and welfare bills.

So _some_ nudging from the pure meritocracy path can be warranted. Even from the perspective of a white taxpayer.

Call me an optimist, but I believe success breeds success. Once some members of an ethnic group succeed, their status can motivate others to follow. The reverse effect is, IMHO, responsible for a lot of underperformance - if all your buds are on the dole easy to blame the dominant group and retreat on yourself.

In many cases, there a mix of some negative discrimination by the majority coupled with a culture of non-participation by the minority. Complex to break this kind of fail, but doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

I'll add that I also consider it the decent thing to do. But there are cold hearted reasons to do it anyway.

Last, and cynically, in our age of Internet outrage, a company may find it in its best interest to at least appear motivated to diversity. So why not try to do a good job if you're stuck doing it anyway? As long as you don't just hire underqualified folk.

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Linux 4.8 rc1 lands, with Surface 3 support promised!

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Re: Keep on hacking

JJ being a twat, again.

Compared to what, dufus? Letting alone that a recent compare point's Anniversary Edition is making the news for instability. The article is all about relative weights of what's being changed. Ie x% drivers. Not how much % of the code base is being changed in absolute terms.

Are you really that dense? That you can't comprehend a short article in your native language? I mean it's one thing to be partisan. Or a troll. But a dim partisan troll?

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Your 'intimate personal massager' – cough – is spying on you

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Re: Bah!

The thing has a remote control function. So you can send the missus a vibe during the day instead of a text. So it makes sense that there is a mothership server to intermediate through, but less so that they store and even less that they are not secure.

That said people struggle to use secure passwords on banking sites or routers, can't expect too much resetting of factory defaults on a sex toy.

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Re: Bah!

Why the hate?

This is just another hack of an IoT device. One of a class of device that also happens to have some potential for embarassment/blackmail to its users. Funny to the Reg crowd, cuz we are often, hmmm, bit weird. But it's still a depressingly common thread of IoT to have bad security. No more, no less.

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Google Anal-ytics anyone?

>the makers of the We collect exactly when the device is used, which of the ten vibration modes they are using, and even the temperature of the device

That is all, getting me coat.

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Canadian govt to cloud providers: Want our business? Stay local, eh

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Re: carry through

Duh. Of course US companies have high, unreasonably so, tax rates. In practice though, the actual tax payout is highly variable w all the loopholes. US govt should figure out how much/little it wants to tax corporations and set a sane simple tax system with as few loopholes as possible around a simple base rate. Then... drumroll... make them pay it.

Of course, with a huge industry of tax accountants, lobbyists and strident lefties defending the rarely-applied-nominal rate, the likelihood of that happening is the same as Kim Jong-Un dropping 20kg and not being bat shit crazy.

Still doesn't make your post any more intelligent though.

Reality is more complex, with higher Canadian taxes partially offset by not having to pony up as much health coverage.

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California to put all your power-hungry PCs on a low carb(on) diet

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>It depends

Odd that you are pundit-ing on energy generation, yet you don't know about the concept of baseload. As it impacts solar energy generation roughly 12 hrs a day, even in sunny California :)

Far as the article goes, cautious support, assuming a coherent directive has been put together. Energy saving often hits a short term vs long term conflict. Getting $18

back on a laptops energy consumption seems optimistic though.

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F-35 targeting system laser will be 'almost impossible' to use in UK

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Re: Wait until you see the next generation fighter...

The Their next gen fighter jet wont have a meat sack inside

Corrected for you.

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@Boltar

in the US under very tight controls”

Now, I rarely hesitate to cast the first stone at the flying pig. But what it reads like is that the Americans do not trust that laser near potentially affected systems, on their territory. On a related subject, there's an ongoing tug of war in the US between the Navy and another agency (EPA?) about the impact of sonars on whales and corresponding restrictions. Hardly means that sonar is useless on an attack sub. Nor that the UK is obligated to follow the US lead wrt to the laser.

Do agree that having severe restrictions on laser training use might impact operational readiness. But that hardly seems like a big deal compared with all the rest. Not least the steadily dropping volume of F35s to be deployed - which will make it pretty useless in any serious operations against any big player. Read up on Tiger IIs if you want to catch my drift.

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Windows 10: Happy with Anniversary Update?

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Re: Bing had better 'techy' results for me, than Google for the first time this week.

To each his own, but I can think of safer things than trawling random forums for EXEs to run on a Windows PC. Or any OS, actually.

Doesn't excuse Google's nearsightedness in the matter, but still ;-l

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Kaspersky so very sorry after suggesting its antivirus will get you laid

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You know, I wonder which is the most deplorable. A rather tacky sexist ad? Or the predictable enraged social media crowd?

There are plenty of ills in the world. Not least in the field of professional opportunities for women and sexual harassment. But is this worth much more than a shame faced retraction by the company? Followed by perhaps a change of creative agency?

SJW is more and more a shortcut term for idiots to avoid. Like their ancestors the PC crowd. Or bigots, racists, and misogynists.

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The return of (drone) robot wars: Beware of low-flying freezers

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about the title...

With the huge popularity of all things drone, wouldn't a show that does Robot Wars a la Von Richtoffen have huge potential?*

* don't try it - I have already registered Business Method Patent US 6933152 B, registered in Delaware and filed in East Texas.

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Plenty of fish in the C, IEEE finds in language popularity contest

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Re: Clearly bollocks.

Agree. Python at #3 is cool, that being my primary language these days.

However... if you look at, and analyze, job postings, there is no way it rates above C++ and C#. What is happening instead is that it is an incredibly powerful Swiss army knife that can assist any developer or sysadmin, so it often gets added as a desirable trait.

So the posting instead typically looks like...

Need to have

Go - 8 years experience

Windows 10 - 5+ years system experience

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Nice to have

Python or Ruby scripting skills

Or you may also find it on a QA job because their scripts are using it. Core, line of business, programming in Python, outside of web apps? Not, quite, at #3.

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Yahoo! She said yes. Verizon confirms $4.8bn acquisition

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To be fair, it could hardly be worse than Yang turning down 44.6B 8 years ago. Even if a MS acquisition seems to be the kiss of death.

Though... if she burned 2.3B buying stuff recently then that should also be considered in assessments of how good a deal she got for Y.

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Microsoft to rip up P2P Skype, killing native Mac, Linux apps

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Re: What are the real alternatives to Skype

Strangely enough, this comes to mind when seeing that list:

https://xkcd.com/927/

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Stack Overflow takes on technical documentation

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Re: It's all rather depressing really

>Linux docs are comprehensively incomprehensible.

True, but the good thing with command line stuff is that it remains static from release to release. You can put it in a quick text note and paste it in years later, it most likely will work.

My favorite combo is to find a good bit of documentation, let's say on using the arcane find command. Often as not on SO. Very rarely from man pages.

Bookmark it privately on Pinboard and paste in the actual command I used to solve my problem in the Pinboard note area. Later on, you can search on bash, howto tags, look for find and you can see what you did or you can go look at the original url if you're still confused. Way better than using Evernote.

Try doing that quickly with a 3 level deep dialog-based configuration that changes from release to release!

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Re: If [...] vendors use it as an excuse to pull back on their own first-party efforts

re. MS's documentation, I think seeing less of their drivel would be a good thing.

I don't know about SQL Server's doc, but a lot of their Windows user doc is godawful. The product is what it is and I can live with it when I have to. But their docs often take incompetence and vagueness to a whole new level. Even while paying lip service to caring via "did you find this helpful?" links.

For the few actually good documentation entries, their value is hamstrung by Windows' frequent terminology and user dialog navigation changes between releases, sometimes even between 8 and 8.1. I.e. the same common problem can be resolved by the same actions in 7, 8 and in 8.1, it's just that they've moved stuff around and relabeled (pointlessly) and didn't bother to update their core documentation.

Documentation and help is not sexy, but it is key to user acceptance. Using CrackBerry as a de-facto help and documentation site certainly didn't do BB10 any favors - it sucks up all the Google searches, but it has an incredibly low S/N ratio. Much like MS' doc.

I also wonder how SO vendor support is going to play out when the docs point out bugs and errors in the products. No, that particular dig is not limited to just MS.

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UK employers still reluctant to hire recent CompSci grads

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Eh, eh. If you want to be more depressed, go hang out at Stackoverflow.

I mostly hang out on Python topics.

Now, beginning Python is really, really, simple to work with. About as far from bare metal as you can get. Syntax is clean (as long as you don't mind significant white space) and language prides itself on legibility. There are abundant learning resources and tutorial.

A huge proportion of questions coming in are 1 paragraph university assignments. With the guy or gal clearly not having thought it through for 10 minutes before going to SO. Most often, the question text is a clear copy/paste from the assignment. SO strongly encourages people to post the code they've tried so far, along with the issues. These people almost never bother, because they didn't try anything before posting.

This is basic stuff, not big O notation, not obscure problems, not exotic libraries, not even the weird little Python gotchas that trip beginners.

For a programmer, they are 5 minute problems, 30 minutes if you had to do them in a language you knew but not very well. For a beginner... more time, but you have to learn those concepts before you do anything else.

Not only is this cheating, it is cheating on stuff that could very easily be done on your own. If you can't do them, you'll never be able to move on.

p.s. you know, maybe there is a place for a utility that compares originating IPs of low ranked questions with universities ;-)

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Microsoft ordered to fix 'excessively intrusive, insecure' Windows 10

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Re: I rarely say this, despite being born French, but...

No one says you should trust them. I don't like them much myself and I am not trying to convince you that they are trustworthy.

But for people who want to use Windows, this is potentially very good news. Then they can turn off the telemetry, as people have been asking for the last 18 months. Well, maybe that's jumping ahead a little bit, but I really hope that the French initiative, esp if it is supported by the EU, results in an opt-out option.

Just like they had to offer alternative browsers to customers in Europe, on XP. And, yes, I also remember that they "forgot" to put in that option when 7 (Vista?) came out, so that users were once again stuck on IE.

Trust them? No, not really. Distrust and verify would be more appropriate. But I also don't think a world with only Linux and Apple as choices would be a great result, so a better behaved MS is a good thing.

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I rarely say this, despite being born French, but...

Vive la France!

And fuck you and your unwanted, unhelpful and un-opt-outable data collection, MS! This is exactly the kind of abuse that consumer data protection laws are supposed to cover, so it's very good to see them used in this context.

Seriously, even if you like MS, this is actually a good thing for them. This allows them to climb down from their ridiculous telemetry program without losing face. Or tips the hand of their executives who support a return to sanity.

Even if (big IF) you don't assume nefarious intent behind it, and only the desire to gather unbiased usage stats (i.e. without the pro-MS bias that would come from an opt-in telemetry user base), the goodwill cost of that data harvesting (and the Win10 install nagging) has been tremendous. Well on a par with their late 90s monopoly trial dirty laundry in terms of public perception.

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An anniversary to remember: The world's only air-to-air nuke was fired on 19 July, 1957

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Re: just goes to show how little ...

It's an airburst, it will not have the fallout of an explosion that churns up ground matter.

Not to forget that both superpowers could be fairly irresponsible at times with their test subjects' exposure, especially early on. And that radiation exposure can have long term effects that wouldn't show up immediately.

With friends like you, nuclear energy (which I support) doesn't need enemies.

p.s. Anyone else think that explosion looked like a really, really, bad early generation CGI special effect?

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@Baldy50

which is also why, much as it is horrible, the risk from current Islamic fundamentalism needs to be kept in context - it is nowhere near the threat level of the USSR <=> US/Western confrontation. Or indeed the number of deaths that came out of it.

Not to be complacent, but we've outfoxed the USSR, surely we can outfox a bunch of moronic backward zealots whose idea of PR includes killing lots of people of their own religion and starving the economies of their host countries in the Middle East. It'll take time, many innocents will die and it will often seem like the world is getting ever worse along the way. But they will lose and the world will move on.

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Hacker shows Reg how one leaked home address can lead to ruin

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just keep your head down

A few years ago, IIRC, a university research project coupled CCTV footage to Facebook tagged pix, with an off-the-shelf face recognition software.

Their identification rate was about 30%. I assume it's way higher now, with more tagged pix and better software. Hopefully FB has upped its game to mass scanning of their image data, but I wouldn't count on it. I wonder what Google Image Search is/will be able to "contribute" to that as well.

This is the kind of crap that we howl about when we learn that our governments are doing it but we actively participate in doing it to ourselves ;-)

If you do have to be on FB, you may want to skip your address and DoB. And minimize photo tags.

All's not lost - as someone else said - as long as 95%+ of people are much more permissive in what they share, random attackers will tend to gravitate to the easier marks. That's not unlike what you see in home security - most locks or alarm systems* can be defeated, but why would a bad guy pick one of the harder targets at random? They'll go for the easy ones first.

So your best bet is to appropriately paranoid wrt to what you feel you have to lose if you get powned and/or what an attacker might gain from doing it.

And extra cautious - including not being on FB - if you lean that way, more relaxed if you don't care much. Just as long as you know where you stand.

* you don't have to try very hard where I live, police response time to a burglar alarm is about 20 minutes.

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How's this for irony? US Navy hit with $600m software piracy claim

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Re: Bend over and think of England. Or Trump. Okay, let's make it Trump

>best bit?

Nah, that's the sodomy bit.

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Your antivirus doesn't like Ammyy. And fraudsters will use that to RAT you out (again)

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Re: I dunno if this would work...

That's a good idea. But I think it's what the hash signatures you see on some downloads are used for. Of course that supposes you can ensure that your good hashes are stored elsewhere and secured against manipulation.

Sobering incident. Both for someone wanting to distribute software and someone installing it.

I always think that the less sites you trust as download sources, the better. App Stores are OK by me, so are the open source repos for Linux and Port/Homebrew (Mac). Past that... I need to really need that software.

PyPi, the Python script repo is another worrying example. Not sure how much vetting, if any, is taking place on uploads. Yes, you can read what you download, but install scripts have already, as sudo, run by then. And it doesn't take many lines of Python to make a mess.

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Keep up the pressure on the telcos, Canada

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Re: Semi-Obsolete concept: FTTH as an "Urban privilege"

> I think that makes you a fucking monster.

Fuck you too, Trevor. That's not what I said, if you'd bother reading it correctly. What I was referring to is research that shows that bureaucracies, corporations and groups of people in general tend to dodge moral constraints because it is "no one individual's fault". I didn't say it was right, or desirable, I just said that applying sociopath to a group isn't helpful. And is, in fact, rather stupid, like a good deal of your statements here, except for our common frustration with Telcos and their ability to get their way at everyone else's expense.

But, eh, go ahead if you want to put words in my mouth.

p.s. your lack of politeness here certainly shows I've "struck a nerve" too ;-)

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Re: Semi-Obsolete concept: FTTH as an "Urban privilege"

Here's a median income chart from stats Canada. By your own logic, pretty much _no_ area should be wired, because almost no metropolitan area in Canada has 100k income. Pretty sure the Alberta ones will drop out next round.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/famil107a-eng.htm

Sociopath, from dictionary. a person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

There is a whole branch of psychology concerned with group-vs-individual behavior, you can start with 'Bystander effect' and work your way up. Bureaucracies do not behave as individuals and confusing the 2 is not productive. Individual empathy or altruism should not be expected from a corporation. Might happen, but don't count on it, it's just not their function. If you hand them over some regulatory capture, of course they'll act on it. So don't.

If you were to say that reserves are underserved in Canada, whether in comms, education, food or many other metrics and if you were to attribute that, at least partially, to racism, then sadly, I would agree. But regarding the rest of the Canadian public, to claim that a telco cares about your skin color rather than your $ is a bit of a stretch.

Basically, you started with very good points, I loved your previous article about the subject. Then you tarnish it with bizarre rants. I assume you know way more than any of us about wiring up communities and you certainly hit a nerve when you criticize our Telcos - we generally hate them. But you are still getting panned on all your posts here. Wonder why?

Stick to the facts, leave your emotions out of it - we, your readers, understand engineering and regulations and you have good points. Leave the Noah Chomsky-ing to the Discovery Channel.

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Re: Semi-Obsolete concept: FTTH as an "Urban privilege"

Hmmm, Trev, I live here too. Well-off doesn't necessarily mean white. Plenty of middle class Asians.

How we Canadians choose to treat First Nations (PC for 'Indian') may not be much to brag about, but otherwise you are injecting a bit too much racial angst and mea culpas into your arguments. Let's stick to the facts, they are damning enough towards the Bells!

You also need to differentiate truly isolated communities, with say 50-60 km to the next _small_ community (your Polar bears) from towns that are underserved but could reasonably well be sped up. You kinda do, but <1M is almost everyone in BC, except for Vancouver/Greater Victoria. Yet, much of the province is reasonably clumped together (say >10k), compared to the truly isolated like say Bella Coola. With goodwill, and minus the telcos' stupid lobbying, 90% are probably coverable. The last 5-10% are gonna be a bitch though.

Also sociopath is a bit of a stretch even towards our telcos. We were stupid enough to give them the regulatory rope to hang us with, they are taking advantage of it. No more, no less. Sociopath implies abnormal behavior as opposed to the predictable behaviour of a rational actor when presented with an opportunity to enrich themself. The truly dumb thing is allowing lobbying to drive so much of politics, be it from unions or corporations. Not an uniquely Canadian trait, unfortunately.

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McCain: Come to my encryption hearing. Tim Cook: No, I'm good. McCain: I hate you, I hate you, I hate you

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Re: @JLV "democracies benefit from alternating parties being in power"

Interesting analysis. Dunno about splits, and I rather doubt that the religious right will go away.

If faced with yet another loss (gotta remember no one thought Brexit was gonna pass though) could the Republican Party instead amend its primaries' rules to reduce the capacity of outliers (i.e. unusually religious folk) to push forward candidates that will be unacceptable to the larger American electorate? And indeed to members of their own party. Cruz being just one of several examples. Too much religion in politics makes many people worried. And it certainly made the founding fathers uneasy, hence the 1st amendment.

It would be extremely difficult to clip the zealots' wings without being seen as unjustly disenfranchising people who, while I don't agree with them, or even like them, should still be allowed their democratic opinion. But their right to their opinion should not necessarily grant them the right to hijack their party's nomination process. If only to avoid that party predictably ending up in opposition.

Have any other countries successfully changed their nomination procedures to avoid these effects? I realize openly voting for candidates is not the norm so examples are few. More mainstream Reps voters voting in primaries would do it but is unlikely to happen.

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Re: Dear Senator McCain

>jail

Methink you should look up Trump University. Might be Clintons are sleazy at times, but Trump is a 21st century used car salesman as far as I am concerned. And Trump being anti-elite? Positively Orwellian in hypocrisy.

Too bad for Reps. It sucks that Dems are likely to win again because... well democracies benefit from alternating parties being in power. But as long as Rep primaries choose candidates w ever more right, ever more white, religious, ever more old views, then thats going to make winning real hard in actual full population elections.

Especially in an US that is turning less white. Trump was not the worst of those to choose from, which is scary.

Nearly old, white, centrist, male, happy not to be living there.

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Re: "he picked Palin as his running mate. "

A Dunce Prize, you mean.

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Google's Nexii stand tall among Android's insecure swill

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Re: Samsung

Agree. Therefore, funny that Salesforce is making them the reference Android, innit? Wonder what they're smoking thinking.

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Starbucks bans XXX Wi-Fi

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Re: Pathetic

Task tssk. I lived in the US from 77 to 86 and first set foot back on the North American continent in 94.

If you think *$ coffee is bad, you should have seen the slop that used to be the norm in the US before coffee culture took off, largely helped by that chain.

This is in a land where a presidential candidate not too long ago proudly proclaimed that he only ate the bright yellow "mustard" they serve on hot dogs. Given that presidential hopefuls, except for Nader, are all rich lawyers or at least rich, I rather doubt he was being honest (something prez candidates are also rarely guilty of). Still...

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Depends on context

As an occasional visitor, not a librarian, I have seen people surfing porn twice at my public library, on monitors that are viewable from a broad vantage. Personally? Don't care much, it was rather lame porn. If I was with my kids I'd probably use that as an example of people not to emulate.

I suppose some people have no computer access or no home. And/or remarkably little respect for others.

While one could argue that a library shouldn't censor (though I certainly wouldn't fault them in this instance if they used a suitably specific and narrow blacklist) I really don't see why a commercial open space entity has to put up with these lowlives on their free offerings.

I'd have an entirely different view on a hotel carrying out this type of filtering however.

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Cryptocat dev reckons WhatsApp is blocking calls to Saudi numbers

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FALSE ACCUSATIONS!!!

>Those regulations are designed to protect local carrier revenues from being eroded by free apps.

Infidel pigs! There are many valid reasons, other than those shamefully suggested by El Reg, for blocking access:

Prevention of blasphemy!

Women should only use instant messaging if accompanied by a male guardian. Whatsapp not checking!

Terrorists could use the internet, local carriers are watchful!

The Defender of the Faith (title of Saudi King) could be criticized. Oh noes!

Alcohol could be discussed.

Mammary glands might appear somewhere.

Females may appear without niqab. And without covering one of their eyes, as suggested by the excellent Sheikh Muhammad al-Habadan.

Only a foreign dog publication would suggest that baksheesh is involved in any way to favor local carriers! Just because most carriers are owned by princes does not mean anything!

Retract!!! Or face 100 lashes on your soles!!!

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