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I like the idea of an underground tube network. About 12 inches in diameter with pods of goods being ferried from supplier to your home.
After seeing how a car can be targeted with a pulse gun and stopped in its tracks, I can see a growth in drone piracy.
Re: No property rights
You will no doubt own the equipment that is sent out to mine the resource, but having a requirement that you own the resource before it is extracted is nonsense.
Let it be like the days of the tea clipper, first one back with the goods, gets the bonus.
Economics will become the new property law of space, if you can't get it back as cheaply as the next guy, you look somewhere else for a profit.
Imagine granting Mr Gold exclusive rights to an astral body, is he going to spend billions on bringing back hundreds of tons of gold back to Earth? Hell no! He's going to make sure nobody brings any gold back and so protect the price of his current stock.
I see the future of space mining to be not unlike our current energy market, miners mining, transporters transporting and cellars doing their utmost to keep it dark, dank and full of secrets.
So, if you want to surf porn in peace, don't have an opinion that conflicts with the regime.
I'd like to point out I am not the only user of this computer as my pet dice monkey is studying humanity in its many guises.
I suggest blocking access to ALL newsagents, as it is possible a young teenager might get access to some top shelf grumble. It doesn't matter that the newsagent also sells sweets and comics, it's the thought that counts.
The Real Truth
Having studied for many years I have concluded Douglas Adams was right.
The agencies that protect us, should be waterboading mice, because we want answers, now!
and the dolphins know more than they're letting on, so waterboard, err, airboard, oh, just subject them to 24 hour skatalite tv, you know, the crap that passes for entertainment these days, they'll crack eventually.
As for the Bible, it was written by mice to hinder our ability to become an enlightened species.
God is to be found in the detail of our universe, not in the subtext of micecreants writings.
Forever and ever
Re: INFLATABLE LEAD ? ( The metal that is )
Why not drop some autonomous bots onto the moon with all the instructions they need to scavenge/process materials, then use a 3D printer bot to manufacture more bots until you have an army digging away.
Then get some of the bots to make a big ship and send all that lurvly moon cheese back once in a while.
Yes it will take time, but I assure you, they will grind the entire moon down to Earth bound dust so efficiently, it will replace sand and gravel as aggregate in concrete.
and just to keep the "it's all mine, mine I tell you!" people happy, we can fit them with guns to shoot each other for digging outside their mandated area.
Here's a thought, the oxygen component of the several billion tons of water on the moon can be set into the cargo ship as frozen blocks that will sublimate on re-entry thus allowing a powered landing.
I am willing to bet that no two customers with exactly the same package paying the exact same amount exists in this country. (ignoring promotional offers for new customers, that is)
Once your contract is run it is down to your skills in brinkmanship, whether you get a decent price to remain a customer and even then you'll not be ready for the obligatory inflation busting price rise a month later which strangely enough affects you and only you.
My tip for the day-
If you are going from cable to copper, or the other way round, tell the engineer not to tear out the original connection, as you will continue using it. They will always rip out the old connection to make it more convenient for themselves, but more to make sure it will be another huge connection fee to swap back.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Antimatter!
So we've found the Higgs, therefore we have to consider the anti Higgs having anti gravity properties.
I suggest antimatter resides at a particle level in intergalactic space and like normal matter wasn't totally annihilated in the Big Bang.
The galaxies that look to be too light to keep themselves together, at the rate of spin we see, are in fact assisted by antimatter pushing back.
I'll say no more, promise, as I've already bored the pants off enough Reg readers recently with this theory, but if you do want to see how my "logic" pans out, have a drift through some of my recent posts. (click on my name)
Re: What if...
I am humbled by your knowledge, but perhaps still unmoved by the theories that fit like a jigsaw piece, but appear to have come from another puzzle.
True, your arguments are difficult to challenge, as they are robustly supported by a wealth of observation, but they are, after all, observations that cannot include the unknown and it is the unknown that perplexes us all.
While my naive grasp at antimatter as the saviour to the model looks ill founded, it still has legs. Experiments are continuing and maybe results could show antimatter has properties that may explain away phenomena that are currently smothered in theories that cannot begin to explain themselves beyond the fact they fit nicely.
I am a firm believer that science will one day explain everything we see, but until we start seeing the unseen we will never truly explain the observable. I place antimatter in that category, a facet of our universe that has escaped observation and thus discounted from our models.
I do have a hope that Voyager might be treading a path through antimatter space, as it is outside the influence of our sun and we are on the edge of the Milky Way. Although the influence of our galaxy will still be dominant I would still expect a low density of antimatter in the void and maybe exerting an influence that can be detected. If so, Voyager fixing it's position and speed using triangulation might show a discrepancy over the next few years, one which could suggest forces unknown are at work, although I guess the power will die before sufficient mileage has passed to show this.
However it is warming to know my theory is no farther to proof than the many that fill text books the world over.
Re: What if...
Wow! Many thanks for such a considered reply and my unreserved apology for letting my fervent ignorance loose again.
If the total mass of normal matter in the universe was evenly spread at a particle level across the "known universe" it would come down to a handful of particles per cubic mile, which when we consider this in terms of antimatter, suggests annihilation events would be rare, especially as the antimatter is taking steps to get out of the way and is nimble enough to do so, even so, the event if it did happen would be too small to register on our equipment, it is, after all, only a single, subatomic particle and not a world shattering teaspoonful of the stuff.
So no galactic halo, as the anti-gravity twist to antimatter makes for a non event.
As for well founded experiments showing annihilation events, I would like to point out ALL the data was collected from environments swathed in gigawotsits of magnetic flux, while enduring the unwelcome effects of Earths gravity all the while surrounded by a lab full of matter promising nowhere to run, not the kindest of conditions to assess this animals "natural" behaviour. The Alpha team are attempting to investigate further, but overcoming the obvious obstacles is proving difficult. At least you can agree, an anti Higgs could have some interesting properties.
The big bang was basically, x plus minus x equals zero, yet we are to believe the universe we see is the residue of the total annihilation of everything that came into being, but favouring an outcome where matter is the product, so, x plus minus x isn't quite zero. Hmm?
It would be interesting to run a big bang model, that considered antimatter in the way I have described it, a confirmed bachelor, with serious xenophobic issues, that is travelling outward from a point source along with normal matter. The initial annihilations would fuel the expansion, while antimatter would maintain the outward push by cancelling out matters urge to gravitate back.
Maybe it is time to challenge the standard model as the convoluted theories keeping it relevant have no greater merit than my conjecture, but mine at least have a degree of plausibility.
If this was double entry bookkeeping, the unexplained issues in the model would be held in a suspense account until the source of that issue was addressed, frankly, those responsible for the theories of dark matter, dark energy, inflation and the idea, the laws of physics grew, instead of just was, should all be imprisoned for accounting irregularities, as non of the theories can account for themselves without adding more to the suspense account than was there to begin with.
Re: What if...
Where did you get the idea antimatter hasn't got anti-gravity properties? A team of scientists did show some tentative results in this area recently, but obviously, working with antimatter within the confines of Earth's gravity while keeping the antimatter inside a stable magnetic field has it's limits.
So if you can accept the above, you might also accept a galaxy surrounded by a sea of antimatter would indeed keep it together when it's mass and angular velocity suggest it would fly apart, due to the antimatter pushing back.
And to your last point, that antimatter would clump together, err, no. antimatter avoids contact with everything, even itself. It will be spread more or less evenly throughout interstellar space and hence act as the fabric that keeps matter in its place. If antimatter did indeed behave like matter, then the universe would have just as many antimatter stars, with antimatter elements and planets and we would be able to see these huge bodies, but we don't.
It also explains why the universe seems to be expanding faster as the repulsive force of antigravity is constantly pushing away, instead of the common held theory that the big bang is the only source of impetus.
Obviously, much of what I have said is unproven, but neither has it been disproved and if antimatter is accepted as a feasible force, then several totally unexplained events can be understood without resorting to weird concepts, like inflation theory, dark matter, dark energy et al.
The biggest anomaly comes from the idea, that matter and antimatter wiped each other out at the big bang and what is left is the result of some imbalance that favoured the creation of matter from these annihilation events. Whereas I suggest the big bang was akin to a nuclear explosion, in that 99% of fissionable material gets explosively dispersed and thus doesn't contribute to the event. Add in antimatter's eagerness to avoid contact and run away, and we have a universe with equal amounts of matter and antimatter, again no need for convoluted, unexplainable weirdness, that the scientific community seem unable to stop pulling out of hats when facing the unquestionable failings in their theories.
Re: What if...
Sorry, I forgot to mention my thoughts about the gloop that inhabits interstellar space.
Known to many as dark energy and matter, I have convinced myself that this is antimatter, that prefers a quiet life outside of matters influence.
With the opposite properties of normal particles, its anti-gravity acts to retard the progress of light and hence make the universe appear to be far bigger than it is.
Inflation theorists look out.
My current project is to get something useful out of someone else's spreadsheet, "In a jiffy" I replied.
Oh what a mistake, all of the data has been entered using the most diverse cognitive thinking imaginable and she's adding more by the day.
I'll give you an example, dates, 12/09/13 good, 12th September 2013, bad, Twelfth of September 2013, worse.
I set up a mind numbing array of functions to interpret what she had written into proper data and stood back in awe at my talent, then spotted several #VALUE which had come from her spelling mistakes, God was there no end to this.
Well yes there was, I put validation rules on her spreadsheet which left it like Blackpool lights, with cells everywhere flashing red, then gave it back.
A simple solution to an intractable problem.
Re: What if...
Voyager may just give us one more tantalising insight and prove me wrong.
After a few months, if my babbling is correct, Voyager will appear to have speeded up as the time taken for transmissions increases more than expected, otherwise it's back to the day job.
..the medium that exists between the stars and galaxies is to energy, what air is to a moving object?
If the gloop manages to slow light, ALL of our calculations of distance will be over estimated.
Seeing as no one has the slightest idea what Voyager is traversing through at this moment, I can speculate with the rest of the boffins and tell you the universe is no bigger than 14 Billion light years.
Prove me wrong!
Re: Statement of intention
Um well, you managed to make my case a little stronger.
If what DARPA is asking for is impossible, then we need to attack this from another angle.
Stopping bad code from crashing a system is just one facet and while important isn't really a threat when compared to the antics of malicious code, which rarely announces itself by downing a system, but rather lingers around slurping data or even corrupting it.
If, as I suggested, we implement declarations for all system actions a program wishes to undertake, then we can at least audit those declarations and trap errant code when it tries to overstep its boundaries.
eg a "free" registry cleaner, that promises to report on all the faults should declare a read only operation on the hard drive and therefore be prevented from creating problems to force the user to buy the unfree upgrade necessary to make the repairs.
It is simple, implementable and with the ever complex environments our systems are open to, a must, if we are ever going to trust these things to do as they promised.
Statement of intention
If programs had to declare their interactions with the system in much the same way they declare variables, then I can see a solution unfolding.
It isn't about catching errors, it is about catching code that goes poking around outside its remit, eg a video converter that wants access to your email addresses. If the video converter had specified that action in its declarations the user could easily see this and question why. attempting it without making that declaration the program will be stopped in its tracks and flagged as seriously suspect.
So basically all programs run in a self-defined sandbox.
As for buffer busting code and the like, well, that is just down to an incompetent OS and really should be fixed by now, that is, if the NSA has tired of this approach.
Up until the point it became common knowledge that most clouds rain down their data in America you would be safe from prosecution.
Now you know better, you are right to question your actions, but in your defence you will be doing exactly what everyone else is doing, including the organisations that would seek to prosecute you, so I guess you're safe for now.
Well, safer than the data, that is.
I assume no American company willingly complied with NSA's demands, but instead reluctantly accepted the unstoppable force of their legitimised buggery of back doors and every other conceivable orifice.
Regardless of which nations the companies were operating in and the local laws, just being American owned was enough to circumvent every nations control over that data.
So, the EU faced with such an unbending regime and having the opportunity to put a strategy together that protects its citizens has come up with half measures that will not be effective, yet will undoubtedly add cost to EU IT without adding value. Should I be surprised?
Have the EU gravy train riders not woken up to the fact, America has declared a proxy war against the entire world, utilising the near monopolistic grip its IT companies and structures have to great effect.
Nothing short of a complete shut out of American companies from EU IT will suffice, with the additional bonus that our IT industry will get the opportunity to thrive in such a closed market, a strategy that has been used time and again by the USA to nurture its own domestic economy whenever it suited.
I guess I come across a bit anti American, but that's not my intention, it's nothing personal, it's just that your government agencies suck and blow.
As one American said, and my apologies that it isn't verbatim "I can't think of anything worse than living in America and suffering under its domestic policy, other than be foreign and suffering under its foreign policy" As I said not quite the quote, but it's about right.
Re: My environment, not ours, MINE.
Well, well. Thanks for the update ecoreco.
The rest of the office will like this one, as no one has any spare time to read the ten thousand page manual, due to them spending most of it trying to use Office like it was 1997.
I doubt any nation in the world would accept having a peek at the NSA database as recompense for the loss of their security.
If I discovered the landlord at my local pub was pissing in the beer, him letting me have a piss in it also, isn't a solution, nor would his promises of never to piss in mine again be trusted.
No, it's time to find another provider, yes they too might be pissing in the beer, but at least there's a chance they might not, that they may prefer customers to having a slash in the barrel?
My environment, not ours, MINE.
The trouble with searching the ribbon for a feature that you once could find in a second, is that you know at some point in the next week you'll be doing it again, having forgot what convoluted steps got you there last time.
For Christ's sake it's a computer program, and one that has been around for ages, so why hasn't it gone all professional like?
and when I say professional, I mean it can be tweaked by a user to create their very own customised work space.
For example, allow me to define a new tab on the ribbon, which I might call "UNew" where I can now cluster all the icons that allow me to turn off all the formatting assumptions Microsoft made for me. Then another tab called *UWrite" where I gather all the icons I would normally use to compose.
It's a bloody computer program, not a car dashboard, creating a user definable space should be easier than converting an American car to right hand drive.
There you go Microsoft, Word 2015's steering committee can go back to skiing 'cos I've done their job already. All what's left is to invent five new document formats and drop the support for anything written on Office 2000 or earlier, which I guess has already been arranged.
There was a point in my education where I considered I had learnt enough.
I had mastered everything I ever needed to know and was ready to take on the world.
This at the tender age of 10, which to be fair, if my world had stayed the same, wouldn't have been a problem.
and so it goes with PC's, why do I need to buy a new machine when the old one still does everything?
Ah, but your machine doesn't do everything, it can't run the latest software, or play 1080p video.
Well, no, but I couldn't give a damn for your latest bloatware, or your eyecandy, especially if it means me having to shell out money in these hard times.
Six months later I have a new machine and this is the one that gets cremated with me.
Ah, but there's 4k video, and, and, and...oh please just, just go away, I so want to be ten again and happy in my ignorance.
I guess trying this with a wild elephant wouldn't be wise, however it would be a better test of the hypothesis, as clearly an elephant that is used to being around humans would have grasped the concept long ago.
I actually cannot think of any other way of manoeuvring several ton of beast without waving and pointing in the general direction of where I want them to go, with a hope they'll eventually work out I'm not a Brit trying to attract the attention of a passing French waiter to the fact my wine glass is empty.
Once in position I'd imagine a threaded bolt could cement their relationship.
Once in position the spinning mass inside could reorientate itself and spin along its length to screw into the adjacent blocks.
Re: Killing is childs play.
Is that with or without chipatis.
If I was out to protect my clients from Americas obsessive need to know everything about everybody, I'd go open source, every time.
Unless my business had the slightest connection with America, which would nullify the non Microsoft approach as the shady ones would get what they wanted Linux or no.
I predict open source will flourish in these post Snowden days, but not with companies that are within the reach of American jurisdiction, or who have patriotic American staff quietly doing the NSA's bidding.
Killing is childs play.
Not happy to rest with death by Meccano-droid we have death by Lego brick, never saw that one coming.
At least it wasn't Stickle Bricks, oh that would be gruesome indeed.
I'm thinking, My Little Ponies of the apocalypse, just around the corner.
of the usual plea made by those caught at it.
"I'm sorry your honour, but I stole the laptop because I needed the money to buy a teddy for my ill niece and get flowers for my Mum's grave"
Whereas, "Yeah, I nicked the stuff to buy crack", would be a more respectful answer, as it is far less contemptuous of everyone's intelligence.
What chance, when all around seem befuddled by the obvious
I use a bus to get to work and sometimes think I'm suffering from tinnitus.
When someone presses the button to indicate they want the next stop a bell dings and a sign illuminates to say the bus is going to stop.
but no, if six people are intent on getting off at the next stop, the button gets pressed four times at least, as if by not pressing it they will have to remain behind.
What utter dolts we live with, what chance of getting through the automated checkout when you know at least a quarter of those in front couldn't fathom the bell on a bus.
Re: Wrong assumption
I'd like to add to your excellent arguments, that of culture.
Music, film, books and TV are cornerstones of our culture, they are something to talk about, they help guide the thought processes of millions and without access to them you are socially disadvantaged.
I grew up in a poor neighbourhood at a time where piracy was nothing other than a bearded one legged bloke with a patch over one eye, no video recorders, no cassette tapes. It would be many years later before we got to see on terrestrial TV what everyone else had consumed and raged about, but by then it was all over, it wasn't current , it was ancient history.
Existing in a second-hand, dated world has an impact on your social mobility, it helps to keep you in a cultural underclass that only money can buy you out of.
I am glad to be living in an age where even the poorest get to join in, where children from struggling families can participate in the school yard hullabaloo surrounding the latest release, because uncle Bob torrented it.
Long ago it was recognised knowledge and culture were of such importance that libraries and museums would be free and that to limit access based on income would be unthinkable. I suggest in this fast paced world denying access to current cultural events because you are poor is just as barbaric and ultimately counter productive to social cohesion, as once disenfranchised, you are unlikely to strive to rejoin the club that had no regard for your potential, only your economic worth.
and as Alien8n points out, the media companies have yet to prove they are losing money, while the world enjoys universal access to what is in effect, our culture.
Re: When I got this job....
My reply was antidepressants.
Re: retro vinyl rebirth
Oh dear, oh deary deary me, they ARE really selling these things and have been for years.
Thank you Duffy Moon, I really should get out more.
Re: In which case ...
This truly is an opportunity for EU companies to step in and take EU clients away from the US,
Hell, it should be made mandatory to keep EU data within the EU, on EU servers, owned and run by EU companies.
As an EU citizen I expect, nay demand, that all government systems are protected from international intrusion, which in practise would require ripping Microsoft out of the equation and blacklisting ALL non EU compliant companies from providing IT services, something that wouldn't have been possible before, but now the argument for such a trade barrier is overwhelmingly incontestable.
Growth in EU IT will be exponential and strategically speaking totally necessary, as our reliance on America's "benevolence" in keeping the LEDs flickering, isn't a sound basis for our future.
We could make a start by pumping a few beellion into creating a professional Linux based system with a view to making this the de-facto OS of all EU governments.
As a user of Linux, I appreciate it is already of a standard that deserves the moniker professional, but a paid for workforce dedicated to supporting it, should be the mission target.
retro vinyl rebirth
so I take my vinyl records and coat them with graphene oxide, then scan with a laser.
Would this be cheaper than a Townshend Audio Rock Reference turntable I wonder?
Well at least there's a possibility of getting a laser turntable as nobody on the planet is willing to sell their Townshend.
Build your own!?
Creating your own OS with the features you require is possible, if you are an aficionado of the Linux world.
For mere mortals, like myself, we can only plump for one of the many distos that meets the greatest of our requirements and then tinker with it, usually, until we break it.
It would be nice to have a pre OS that enables a huge check list of features, with a graphical interface that allows the user to easily define the desktop to their needs, which once completed sets about building your bespoke OS and then rigorously testing the resulting system before reporting it as a goer, ready to be installed.
If you have Linux licked, you can do this for yourself now, but having been reared on a multitude of non Unix systems, I wouldn't have the foggiest.
Been there, done it, didn't keep the T shirt though. Bugger!
I remember my computer A level course work on a Commodore PET, it was a stock control program, written partly in BASIC and partly machine code, to speed some things up and make other bits more accessible for future development.
The parts screen was a twenty line affair with headers and footers taking up the other 4 lines and scrolled like a dream, until that is, it got to the end of the list, where it appeared to bounce, much to my annoyance.
I eventually fixed this "flaw", handed it in, got the grades and moved on. Boy do I now regret binning my work, as I beat Apple to the bounce by some thirty years.
Re: Transmission is key
Thank you, for the answer and also for not rubbing it in. I think that idea's been put to bed, hopefully in a comatose state.
Oh well back to reality, back to laser sharks.
Transmission is key
As already pointed out, solar alone is very limiting, requiring either local storage or an even greater international cooperation to feed the power around the globe as it spins.
I've mentioned this before, so sorry for boring you again, but I do remember the gloriously naive announcement about how quantum entanglement would bring the reality of Star Trek teleporting a step nearer. Although I scoffed at the idea as just another catchy headline, it did get me thinking.
Well, let's start small, very small, let's transport an electron by this method.
More pertinently, let's transport an electron from sunny Africa at midday to America at midnight and if that is doable, let's put the solar collectors into orbit around the Sun and power our planet 24/7.
I have tried to find more information about QE, but beyond the hyperbole of news headlines, lies a world of Unwinese that is beyond this mere mortals comprehension. Any pointers to something intelligible, would be appreciated, by not just me, but the whole of El Reg, as I would at least stop banging on about it.
Or a qualified rebuttal would do very nicely, like, "I'm a boffin and I can categorically say QE works on spin and only spin, throwing Captain Kirk into the melee, was just a journalistic vehicle to get plebs like you to read something interesting, whilst maintaining your ratio of knowledge verses bullshit within state approved guidelines"
" ensuring that privacy is protected and civil liberties are maintained"
Read, "Ensuring our privacy is protected and civil liberties are maintained at the current level"
Lead with the comment
Knowing absolutely sod all about wireless technology, shouldn't in this modern inclusive age stop me from filling this role.
My thought would be to to put up a headline like, "Whoa, somebody just did something mobilee kinda thing" then allow the comments to flow in with wild conjecture about whatever it was they read somewhere else.
Then just CUT and paste the best comments into the body of the article.
Any complaints from the authors of the comments that I use can kiss my T&C's
And as a special one time offer I'll do it for half the celery and in half the thyme.
I expect my attention to detail will not go unnoticed either, as I assume standards will need to be maintained.
Which side of the fence, Mark?
"the trust metrics for all of them went down as a result of Snowden's whistleblowing"
and in similar news people who report crimes have been blamed for the increase in crime.
While FF might have left a few doors ajar, it is the OS architecture that has left your prized possessions on the table in the hallway.
Linux isn't beyond fault, but it is so damnably hard to crack it open that script kiddies just wouldn't bother.
So while FF before the patch had a few cracks, the vermin that might crawl in are looking for Microsoft morsels and would die of starvation on a Linux system.
Dual boot and use Linux to access the internet, if only for the occasions you want to trawl through the sewers.
Not too sure about this.
As I understand it, a radio station pays a fixed price to play a track, which if divided up between its listeners, does come to minute fractions of a penny, whereas the internet station pays a fixed price based on the number of listeners. Obviously inequality exists as the radio station can only take a guess at how many are tuning in and so a per listener fee would be unrealistic, not so the internet station that can tell you exactly how many are "tuned in" at any one time.
Yes, it does seem unfair, especially when you consider things like water rates, where those who aren't metered get a much higher bill than those who have a similar usage, but can account for every drop.
Seems to me the music industry still hasn't forgiven us for inventing the computer.
Re: Reg ongoing feature?
I find all this fascinating as it pushes all my buttons.
Ever thought of using RF tags instead of a multitude of sensors Nick?
Maybe a discreet toe ring, or an unobtrusive bracelet?
One thing is certain though, the technology to have a robot busying itself with your mundane chores is already here, it's just that no one is going to market a device that will see them in every court in the world being sued for selling something that isn't idiot proof.
Re: Nice idea, but...
No one is forcing anyone to jump from MS to Linux, well maybe MS is.
Making a strong case to accept Linux into your heart is in my mind slightly counter to my own needs, as the relatively small amount of users (several umpteen million) almost guarantees it is an OS that isn't worth the time or bother to maliciously fiddle with for monetary gain, the returns on time spent writing viruses, will be pitiful, not least because most users are too savvy to allow any attack past the welcome mat and those that are new, will not easily grasp how to throw open the door to any passing vagabond.
Add to that, that the code is there for anyone to read, to debug, to modify or more pertinently go WTF is this NSA script doing in here means it is clean of agency meddling and the community keep it that way.
If I was to put anything on granny's computer it would be Linux as teaching her all the intricate fiddly bits of MS and how to keep it safe would take forever, while Linux just keeps on working with little to no knowledge required.
Oh and did I mention it's free, perhaps the only free lunch that is unarguably free.
Sorry, did I say lunch, I meant, five course meal with silver service at a five star restaurant, with optional wafer thin mint.
Re: Bah, bah!
A down vote, are you having a laugh.....oh I see, obviously not.
Got a miserable crowd in tonight, who was the warm up act?
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