291 posts • joined 10 Dec 2012
"62 per cent of respondents to its survey believe that retaining more data for longer will create security risks
And of the 38% who don't believe retaining data will create security risks, how many believe they have fairies at the bottom of their garden?
The more I think about this scheme, the harder it is to see any upside. Against the costs, risks to personal privacy and risk of administrative overreach is offset what? Where the claimed benefits are not vague, they have been specious.
"I visit some family down under, and to equate the two for diversity would be incorrect.
Hmmm ... not sure which part of Australia your family are in, but in my workgroup I can manage Malaysia, Vietnam, Bangladesh, Indonesia, India, Malta, Singapore, Laos, Pakistan, China (mainland), PNG, Chile, Russia, Finland, Japan, Fiji, NZ and Iran. There is an Australian, but her parents are Greek too. Similar diversity around the street where I live.
I found some of the article familiar, some confusing (note: I'm a pom who made the reverse journey many years ago, after MHT kindly arranged to fund my passage).
Although I agree that there are many ways in which Australia lags behind Europe, in my field (I work in Local Government) it often seems the reverse is true.
As to the cultural experience, there are opportunities in both countries. Yes, from London you can get to Paris in a short time ... but from Australia you can go to many equally diverse places with relative ease. And, in many cases they're cheaper, they drive on the correct side of the road, plus (unlike Parisians) the locals will actually be polite to you.
I can't answer for what London is like now (it's a few years since I've been there), but if it's more diverse than Australia I would be very surprised - both in my workplace and around my home, I can think of at least a dozen different Asian, European and other nationalities represented.
Agree with Piers though that it is important to get out there and experience the world - whether you go from here to there or there to here, there will be new experiences and you will be the richer for it. But, be open and prepared to make adjustments - even between UK and Aus/NZ, there are cultural differences, which is one reason why so many poms fail to make a go of it here.
Re: Geological Sources
Also possible that the methane is being replenished by the college students ... but, would we really want to go there?
Although diplomatic communications are protected under the Convention, missions are only permitted to install and use wireless transmitters with the host government's consent. I expect missions will comply, rather than have permission withdrawn.
Re: I smell something fishy ...
Try taking some cod-eine
I smell something fishy ...
I'll bet a couple of squid this is a red herring ...
"The Chinese firm also manufactures hardware components for HP, Dell, Lenovo, Motorola, HTC and Sony."
And what, if anything, are these companies doing about it? At least Apple have acknowledged the concerns and are apparently taking some action. Progress is certainly slower than one would like, but it seems unfair to target Apple exclusively.
Call me naive, but ...
Doesn't identifying the destination MAC address imply that at some point you are also recording the requested url and/or IP address?
That's also the only way I can make sense of Irvine's comment about a phone directory ... if a phone directory contained just a list of phone numbers, it would be pretty useless. However, a phone directory that contains a list of names, linked to the relevant phone number ...
It appears that this document is once again simply obfuscation to put people off the scent and disguise the actual intent.
"WA facility gets laser-eyes out of the fog"
What? The weather in Canberra is beautiful ... you're just jealous because it's pissing down in Sydney ...
Re: Source vs destination
And you are prepared to accept what Malcolm Turnbull is saying at face value?
For one thing, he is not the one who is driving this legislation - that appears to be coming from the AG. If, as you point out, the information that the government wants and the process for obtaining it is already in place, then is there an urgent need for fresh legislation? and why is there a need for secrecy about the actual proposals?
Given that this government has some spectacular form in trying to keep its proposals and actions hidden from the public, how confident are you that the actual data retained will be no broader than Minister Turnbull is suggesting?
Why the secrecy?
While stating that URLs and “destination IP addresses” are excluded from the data collection, the report in The Australian says providers will be required to collect information sufficient to “trace and identify the source of a communication and the device used".
Trace the source of the communication but not the destination? This just sounds to me like more obfuscation from a government that is desperate to keep its real proposals secret. I wonder if the final legislation will contain some provision that the actual definition of metadata will be by ministerial direction.
Am I overly cynical, or what?
New user interface ...
"Transact demonstrates the fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD factor) being spread by ignorant and greedy people that want the taxpayer to give them everything and won't pay for anything themselves."
Conveniently forgetting here that, while TransACT is now privately owned, its genesis relied heavily on the support of a Territory-owned corporation for its viability. People have such short memories ....
Re: Leads very rapidly to change...
You must work in local government too
Indeed yes, I do. And sometimes, 10 years can be a short timeframe.
But in this case, it isn't ten years - Dieter Reiter was elected mayor of Munich in March 2014.
Re: Lack of integrated email/contacts/calendar?
Possibly the significant comment is the one about it taking several weeks to set up the Mayor's smartphone to receive email.
That sort of embarrassment in front of the big boss tends to lead very rapidly to change, regardless of any other factors.
“The solution is designed to extend seamlessly out into the public cloud, allowing businesses and citizens accessing government services to be incorporated into the solution,”
Sounds a lot like some hyperbole written by a marketing executive. It's a big state, with a lot of people and what works in Sydney may not work that well in, say, Bogan Gate.
Re: Just wondering ...
And a Windows VM could ... ?
... resurrect the Office Assistant "it looks like you are about to crash. Would you like me to operate the airbags? [OK] [Cancel]"
A couple of thoughts here ...
This system would rely on pretty much universal adoption in order to work effectively (and somehow would have to be retrofitted to older vehicles), so the cost of this is going to be quite significant. And, if it slows the development and introduction of self-driving technology, the benefits may be questionable - whereas autonomous vehicles with self-driving features could be introduced gradually.
In addition, although multi-vehicle accidents are common, most accidents are either single-vehicle or involve pedestrians/cyclists (Australian Bureau of Stats figures here), in which circumstances the technology would likely not be very effective.
Still, if it works and can be effectively implemented, who am I to criticise?
Revealing answer no 1 ...
So, when your office calls and the picture of your boss appears, apparently 1.8 metres in front of you, will you:
a) slam on the brakes; or
b) attempt to run him down.
Answers on a postcard please ...
Re: Uber, Lyft, stop being such dumbasses.
Try Jakarta. The only city I know where a taxi driver needs to stop 3 times in a 10k trip to ask for directions. Anything harder than "airport to Jl MH Thamrin" is probably going to be a challenge.
How about the geographical location of the Government's core principles?
Oh, wait, no we need that ... as you were ...
Neil, I'm sure it was a great article, but I'm afraid I couldn't read past the sub-heading.
Oh, and while you're at it ----->
"Colvin said at least one high-profile case, the murder of Melbourne woman Jill Meagher, was solved because the perpetrator's carrier is one of a handful that does store metadata."
I'm afraid this comment just makes me angry. It's a blatant and misleading attempt to use the death of an unfortunate young woman to garner public sympathy for his hidden agenda.
The perpetrator was out on parole, after a series of sex offences, and had committed a violent crime while on parole. There was also cctv footage showing him in the area talking to the victim on the night of her disappearance. It was completely standard piece of police work that didn't actually need any metadata to solve. Certainly, retaining it for two years wasn't relevant, because the suspect was picked up inside a few days.
The worrying thing is, that they are really not idiots ... I believe they do in fact know what they are doing, but know that they couldn't sell their real plans to the electorate.
"There was no business case or any cost-benefit analysis, or independent studies of the policy undertaken, with no clear operating instructions provided to this completely new government business enterprise, within a legislative and regulatory framework still undefined, and without any consultation with the wider community."
Somewhat like sending 700 drunken convicts and 200 corrupt plods half way round the world to found a colony - no CBA (or even a coherent plan), no consultation with stakeholders, no legislative framework, and no studies that would have revealed the extremely dangerous fauna occupying the proposed site,
Still, it worked out well (in the end) - and better than some expeditions that were properly planned.
it's becoming increasingly clear that our politicians have no idea"
Richard, you could really have stopped writing there ... the rest of the article is somewhat superfluous.
Apart from the expense, inconvenience, security and privacy issues, etc, etc, ... I just wonder what the point of all this is.
I mean, if it's really about stopping terrorism, you'd hope that the security services would be a bit more on the ball than 2 years. Not to mention that any competent terrorists will find alternative means of communication to avoid the whole scheme.
You had me there, Simon
It's 9 am, I haven't had any caffeine, and my brain is still at the ambient Canberra temperature (currently 5 degrees).
Re: Simon is being prescient, sensible and is an exemplary Australian.
"To round up the two leading parties and herd them into the ocean with horses and bull-whips is geographically impractical, given Canberra's location"
We have a lake, you know.
"Before a single bit of ISP-sourced data about any of us reaches a single magneto-resistant atom we need legislation to determine who gets to see the data, under what circumstances and with what kind of oversight and disclosure."
The problem here is that the legislation won't be static. Once the data is there, agencies that feel the need to access the data will be able to ask for changes that will enable them to access it (no doubt with laudable aims). This kind of expansion is often controlled by a web of different acts and instruments and can often be quite hard to unravel who has access to what information and what real oversight or control exists.
Although I agree with Simon that there is no way ISPs should be picking up the tab for data retention, the proposed scheme is still a bad idea. And no amount of legislation or oversight is going to turn a bad idea into a good idea.
"Parkes, most famous as “The Dish” that received the first images of NASA's 1969 moon landings"
Note that the first TV pictures came from the NASA tracking station at Honeysuckle Creek, near Canberra rather than Parkes. As so often happens, the movie took many liberties with facts ... see here: http://members.pcug.org.au/~mdinn/TheDish/.
Re: Nothing works faster ...
You have my sympathy ... it must be damned hard to live with. ln my case, I am very fortunate that the chronic pain is my knee and ankle rather than my back: I can live with it and manage it with exercise.
Paracetamol, I have found, is completely useless for pain relief (including the special strength marketed for arthritis) - though, I sometimes use ordinary aspirin, which seems to have more effect. Also use a traditional Chinese liniment that seems to help (yes, I'm aware it may be a placebo, but it works for me).
Nothing works faster ...
... so take nothing.
Meanwhile, at No. 3 Highview Crescent
Steve Kerrigan: Dad, there's a bloke here selling a data retention scheme ...
Darryl Kerrigan: How much does he want for it?
Steve Kerrigan: $60,000,000
Darryl Kerrigan: Tell him he's dreamin'
Irvine said a too-broad retention regime would be ruinous: “If ASIO had to pay for mass surveillance, we'd be broke in a week”
Oh, dear .....
Well, that was obviously worth all the police and court resources expended on the case. Now we can all sleep safe in our beds, happy in the knowledge that this threat to our way of life has been removed.
Re: SF (San Jose) to LA (Pasadena) nonstop??
Doesn't California have laws against that sort of thing (in public at least)? Just asking, no reason ...
You beat me to it, Charles!
But, I think 5,000 km must be the scenic route ... Guangzhou to Beijing is only a bit more than 2,000 km and about 9 hours by train.
It is unfortunate that Byrne is using this one as a stick to beat the government - for one thing, the data retention regime was the one recommendation on which the Committee was (justifiably) ambivalent, even with the proposed safeguards, compensation for costs incurred by industry, and maximum period of 2 years, etc. As well, the concentration on DR is distracting from many of the other, useful, recommendations for modernising legislation.
"... only non-offensive names will be accepted"
So, no planet Belgium ...
Or maybe ...
Just possibly, this has more to do with avoiding Australian taxes. The privacy thing is just an added bonus.
Hamilton and Warner (assuming he means Warner's Bay?) as regional NSW ... obviously there is a different perspective from Bondi and NSW (that must stand for Newcastle, Sydney, and Wollongong) stops at the limits of the City Rail network ....
Call me old-fashioned ...
but, while Mariana Rudan's on, she gets my full attention ... ogling some other woman at the same time is terribly bad form, old chap.
. .... ..--..
I feel the sub-heading was sadly lacking in wit ... unless there's a joke in there that this ignorant antipodean colonial didn't understand.
I can't imagine this slogan getting anywhere ... maybe it's not the real campaign plan, it was just "accidentally" sent to some journalists to put people off the scent.
Or do I just have a nasty, suspicious mind, it coming just after the NSW budget?
Re: Just who is getting that money?
Ooh ... details please. At that rate, my colleague and I should be getting $150k per month each.
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