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Blackberry posted a loss of almost $1bn in Q2 2014
WOW! And it's still only December 2013
THAT'S the spirit, lads! Think ahead!
Re: don't need new laptop ...just a new O/S
I cut my teeth supporting 3.11 back in
Listen, sonny: I worked with Win-1 and Win2. Now those were REAL clunkers! And on big 5¼" floppies
We all basically looked at this shit, and said WTF? The little Mac is waaaay better than this!
Gates&company just smiled, and presumably said "give us some time. We're developing something for IBM- but we have the rights to it!"
And then Win3.0 came out on 6? 9? - 3½ floppies.
And then as you said, 3.1 came out with much fanfare. (don't forget 3.11 with 32bit!)
prevents me from "investing" in Windows 8."?
Trust me. You WILL sooner later. And then in a couple of years, you will complain about Windows 9, or whatever is around in 2016.
And of course then complain "What's wrong with Win8?" - Just as you did about the crappy new Win7: "Why cannot we all stay with good ol' XP? Or win2K?"
With guys like you, we'd still all be running the steam-powered PBE** And be asking our sisters to help us, as Lady Lovelace did: "Please?? Can you write me an App? Pleeeease?"
2016? Oh. Perhaps you'll still be running your old Wn7 or XP then. And your boss will be looking at you derisively.
(sigh) So many fools, so little adventure.
** Personal Babbage engine. Alas, no QWERTY input.
Re: Couldn't disagree more
Agreed. It's amazing that you got (so far) 27 downvotes, whereas someone who replies "Bollocks" to you gets mostly upvotes.
Clearly Theregister is full of antediluvian Mac weenies.
Re: I CANNOT agree
Blah blah blah... Perhaps you should NOT be building PCs.
I've built a couple, equipped them with both Win-8.1 AND linux, and the wireless mouse works perfectly in all instances.
EXCEPT! A Gigabytes wireless mouse acted erratically under my Win8.1, Win8.0 AND linux. I'll try testing it under my old (OLD! LOL) Win7 system, but I am sure it is the fault of the Gigabytes mouse.
Geez... what a bunch of losers / MS-bashers
Why are all these MS (andWin-8) bashers always anonymous cowards?
MS must be doing something right...
Maybe it's an MS spin?
What no anti-Win8 diatribe yet?
Where is everyone?
Surely this rocky object is just blowing off gases (sort of like tossing chairs) into empty space, and is thus rotating its way slowly back to Windows-7 (or perhaps XP) where the large majority of antediluvian Register readers reside...
Re: I'll update
I've upgraded a desktop and a laptop to Win-8. One of them has already been upgraded again to 8.1 - I realize I'll have to re-install when the "real" 8.1 comes out, but that's OK. Unlike you, I went the $39 route each.
I've a 3rd PC that may be upgraded if MS does a another bargain-basement offer like this when the final 8.1 comes out.
I wonder what all these tedious eight-bashers here are gonna do 2 or 3 years from now, when their old XP and Linux systems become unfashionable, or perhaps a boss starts asking questions as to why his IT dept. is so out-of-date....
I would amusing to keep some of these comments here and repost them publicly a few years from now.
Alas, most of these folks are anonymous cowards.
Wow! Win-8 "add-ons"?
You linux weenies complain about tacking on a little "start-menu" addition to Win-8, (of course adding a 100 Meg antivirus program doesn't count as an add-on, does it? ) - and then-
And then YOU suggest adding this UXstyle malware! Wow!
You really do wanna sabotage the newbies to Win-8, don't you? Do you work for Canonical?
Re: Just awesome indeed! I actually UPGRADED to Win8.
I actually upgraded my old Lenovo from Win-7 to Win-8 (now 8.1 eval)
And gee! It cost me $39 !!
And then gosh! - I added the IObit startmenu-8 for $... oh, wait- it's "free" Shucks! All that 585Kb of "bloatware"! Andit took... um, 90 seconds to install.
And before you tell me you shouldn't have to do all sorts of silly add-ons like this, I'll again suggest that you should really SERIOUSLY look at some anti-virus software "add-ons". If you haven't added this stuff, you're foolish.
Mine is AVAST... oh wait again! I currently use Windows Defender! And it came with the win-8 install.
See you in a couple of years. Enjoy your Windows-7. Or is it Windoze-XP?
Re: PCs are not profitable
Golly, where's all the Win-8 bashers this week? I kinda miss guys.
I've already U/ged to 8.1 preview, and looking forward to 8.1 "final" (if that's what they call it).
Enjoy your up-to-date XP, guys!
And stop bashing Win-7! It's pretty good! Not as good as 8, but...
aw screw it- you better stay with XP. YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Yup. Everyone here moans and curses Win8, but.
But why are all these Win8 bashers here seemingly "experts" on it? Have they ever actually used it? Or are they just shhep that curse?
I have both a desktop and a laptop upgraded to Win8. Did it for $39 ea. last January.
And 8 has worked PERFECTLY ever since.
I hardly ever use the Metro thing, as I do not have a strokescreen (yet). The Win 8 boots into the "Start" screen almost immediately- faster than XP, Win7 and of course Vista.
All I did was spend 30 seconds installing the FREE StartMenu from IOBit.
Looks just like Win7 now. Or XP. Or Win2K for you really backward moaners.
I bet all the complainers here bitched the same crap 10 years ago when they had to upgrade from W2K to XP.
Elmer Phud- still got those old floppies? Quick! Start duplicating them and pass your Win3.1 out to these weenies.
Oh, Wait! Of course! Linux will be everyone's production system in two years, huh? LOL.
See you in two years, weenieboys.
Just great! I have a pacemaker.
News I need to know.
I had a pacemaker installed six months ago because of bradycardia (slow heartbeat- it was down to 27-30 bpm). It didn't realy bother me,except wen I ran or climbed stairs.
It was a temporary condition because .. aw too long here to explain- just see http://curmudgeon.tk - 2nd or 3rd item down - "Lyme Disease - for the shiitty explanation.
Now I'm stuck with this useless pacemaker until some hacker decides to up me to 200bpm to see how fast I can breakdance...
Re: I shudder to think what the coolant used here is.
Well, it goes without saying that the coolant must first be cooled.
It may just end up in a "modern art" museum, as did <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ ">this coolant. </a>
Re: Smart TV vs. Win-8 Ultrabooks...
Have you actually TRIED running a Raspberry Pi on your HD TV?
With a H264 AVI movie (on a thumbdrive) being decoded by it?
Slow. To put it politely.
Re: Absolutely NOT true for me
"....First, NOBODY should be expected to install third party software on a brand new OS..."
I assume you do not run an AntiVirus program?
Keep shooting yourself in the foot.
Re: Absolutely true for YOU?
Try shooting yourself in the foot also. Or maybe pluck an eye out.
Win8 upgrade was $39 for me, and I quickly installed a FREE third party Start-button on y desktop that Win8 boots into.
But I have not yet installed a big third party antivirus. Instead I use the integrated WinDefender.
I would have liked a touchscreen also, just to play with this "Spawn of Satan" alternate Metro interface -
but that was outside MY budget.
But hey - you keep on shooting yourself in the foot.
Re: @Pirate Dave The CLASSIC Desktop.
Yep. The Classic desktop is what I use on my Win8. Sometimes for fun though, I right-click and switch over to the XP menu.
And instead of some huge bloated 3rd-party AV program, I use Win8's WinDefender.
Re: Vista Part II...?
I hear that Vista actually works uite well now. But I don't really care anymore.
Since I am reired, I cannot afford much. So I shop carefully.
I upgraded my Win-7 to Win-8 for $39.95.
And installed the FREE libreoffice.
Is $40 really that big an expense for you?
The car analogy does not work here.
Doing all those things on your car above takes hour and hours and costs lots of $$.
In my case I installed a FREE one-meg utility (much smaller than either my anti-virus, my anti-spyware or my registry cleaner)
And it took two minutes.
My Win-8 now looks like XP (or preferably like my old "classic" Win2000). And it is fully supported too!
Say- did you write that old "If GM designed cars like MS designed Windows"? Hmm.. which of these two companies went broke a few years ago?
Re: @Andrew_b65 - Lack of Anti-virus?
Do you have an anti-virus program on your Windows? Is it the integrated Win-Defender?
No? Then it is a 3rd-party add-on. Better get rid of it.
How about your anti-spyware or registry-cleaner. Oh. Don't have those, huh?
Solar powered is just the first step!
Gosh! Now that they've done (or almost done) a solar-powered aircraft, why don't they build a wind-powered one?
I could see it now- two, or maybe four wind-turbines on the wings, and once those babies start spinning, ... we're off!
Bet they could have one built by (say) next April 1st.
Re: More proof...Hey even MORE-
Agreed- the clearest proof of the above message ishis use of the tired old M$ acronym. Geez... it's like trying to argue with a mac fanboy back in 1995.
Re:You have a Windows 8 laptop AND I HAVE THREE. All running perfectly.
It's amazing! These XP-fanboyz will try and blame any small idiot thing on Windows-8.
I bet at one time, fifteen to twenty years, ago they were probably posting "Bill Gates is the antichrist" in their forum rants.
Re: I have a Windows 8 laptop
Yeah, some of these "Windows-8 is crap" comments lead me to believe that there is a lot of defective PCs out there.
Re: Trying to find Windows 7 laptops for consumers is hard work
I'm planning to go back to my old Abacus. Much safer and cheaper than a PC.
I believe Lenovo will be soon marketing one.
Re: I tried it, finally Repeat-
Mr. Anonymous Coward:
I repeat: >> it's fun reading all these idiotic posts from old geezers (I'm 71, BTW) who swear they will NEVER use this accursed newfangled devil's spawn Win-8! Wish I could track them. It would be fun to see where they are in two years. <<<
I'm 71 and (almost) involuntarily retired. Worked in computers for >45 years. From Remington-Rand's Univac-II, IBM's MVS, DOS, DOS/VSE and with COBOL (ugh!), FORTRAN, PL/I (ugh again!) and BAL (my favourite and even the occasional REXX and then machine-lang input. (Now THIS was a bitch!). But yeah, I probably haven't heard of your "OS". Just guessing...
I suggest you let one your children install that Win-8 and tune it for you. As the title above states: "Windows 8 - it's not going away, people"
Re: I tried it, finally FINALLY HUH?
...." Aren't you a proper server guy? "
LOL. He probably never saw a command line before. And he is obviously not familiar with Gnome.
But hey! With all his advanced talents in the linguistic area, they gave him a server or two to run.
Lucky charms indeed.
From you lack of inquisitiveness, and an inability to quickly figure things out, as well as somewhat of a closed mind, where do you think you'll be in 3 years? Still running your Vista or XP?
I certainly would not hire you.
You gonna wait for "Blue" or wotever it's called? It will only get worse you know....
Re: Windows 8 - My thoughts..
When you have a chance, go into that Metro clusterfuck and organize it. Just drag all your favourite shit over to the extreme LHS. Those "boxes" drag very quickly and easily. It will not take you long.
And if you left-click on a frequently used app, you can choose to place it on your desktop's taskbar.
The Metro isn't so bad once you get used to it. At least if all your apps are organized PROPERLY. and you don't go into the Metro too often with a mouse.
I'm saving up for a big touchscreen! ;-)
Win7 start menu?
I do almost the same as you. Almost.
Once Win-8 was booted (15 seconds?) I clicked the big "DESKTOP" square which brought me into the familiar old desktop.
Of course any new app installs were placed at the extreme right-side of the "Metro" screen. So I'd switch to Metro, sweep over to the right end, and then drag the square back to the left side.
And optionally right click and place it on the taskbar. And then go back into desktop mode. This takes 10-15 seconds, tops!
But I admit I have gotten lazy now and just installed the IOBit "STARTMENU8" on one of my Win8 systems. It saves me those precious 10 seconds a week I guess...
Ya know, it's fun reading all these idiotic posts from old geezers (I'm 71, BTW) who swear they will NEVER use this accursed newfangled devil's spawn Win-8! Wish I could track them. It would be fun to see where they are in two years.
Re: Will it run Linux?
BS. I've had several laptops running Ubuntu-dual booted with Windows.
A "long time" ago (3 or 4 years), there were some problems with Linux and 802-11 drivers. But all appears OK now.
Currently my Ubuntu runs almost as fast as the Win-8. And both of them seem to run faster than Win-7! Certainly faster than Vista!
But perhaps it's just my perception.
When was the last time YOU used Linux on a laptop? Oh yeah- stay away from KDE! Perhaps that was your problem.
Re: Will it run Linux?
Most likely it will.
I have a (obviously older) Toshiba laptop that runs both Win-8 and Ubuntu.
There MAY be some problems installing Grub on a system already running Win-8. I have heard this, but there's probably a solution to this now. In my case I already had Ubuntu & Grub installed on my laptop, before I installed Win-8.
Win-8 installed into the Grub quite easily. (By that, I mean Grub found it).
1. Did you not ever install a 3rd party downloader? Or a 3rd party disk-defragger? Or a 3rd party registry cleaner, or a ... etc etc... ALL these are "little add-ons" that tweak the original system.
Oh perhaps you didn't. Morelily some techie did it for you.
Nothing wrong with adding a 3rd party desktop enhancer. And if enough people buy it, MS will eventually build it in to the OS, they way they did with Win2000, XP, and Win7. Until then tweaks such as IOBit's "StartMenu-8" - an excellent FREE desktop! will continue to be used.
2. The great masses "w/o touch screens" ...huh? You mean the folks still using desktops? How far are you from retirement? When you're gone, it will be touchscreens all the way. Except for gamers and their $2000 desktops. MS knows this.
And oh yeah- touchscreens for the desktop will be coming soon. Their prices are dropping even as I type this. Try running your Win-XP or Vista (OOPS! You finally upgraded to WIN-7? Congrats!) on one of these new desktops.
3, MS "managed to get it right with Vista"? !! LOL! Do yourself a favour and try Win-8. And stop banging your head against a brick.
I maintain several hosting services and websites and fastidiously track what sort of device browses them. In the last year or so, hits from tablets and smartphones have increased to almost 50% ! You think MS wants to stay current with old stubborn folks such as you who will be either retired or dead in a decade or two? They'd truly be committing suicide.
Re: Windows 8 - It should go away- when BLUE comes out
Many companies' upgrade cycle is slower? No. It is just your perception as you get older.
Many linux systems, particular Ubuntu shove out a new version every year - oops, every six months.
And it was that way on the mainframes I worked on 30 -40 years ago. And then midframes. New distribs seemed so infrequent. But no, they were every 2 or 3 years.
Welcome to Windows-8! Mwahh haa haa!
Re: Windows 8 - It should go away.
Oh, you old fuddy-duddy. I bet you said the same thing about Windows-7 two or three years ago.
"Why should I migrate to Windows-7? What's wrong with XP?"
Or maybe you migrated from Vista, in which case you did not complain much.
As it happens, I now have a desktop AND a laptop running Win-8. No problems at all!
Every so often I boot one of them into Linux, just to compare speeds. And to DL the latest Linux updates
Just for fun, though, I gave one of the Win-8 systems the "classic" desktop - some folks having seen it, remark "Gee! Are you still running XP? Oh wait! It's Windows 2000!". They seem generally shocked when I tell 'em its Win-8.
But alas, old man- you will almost certainly migrate to Win-8 eventually. And then you'll probably bitch about this newfangled Win-Blue.
Say have you tried Ubuntu?
This is a joke, right?
Re: 8 processor core? 8?
>>> ...all depends on the task, now I don't know about you but I kinda suspect that someone with 6 cores on their desktop is doing more than reading email, surfing, and a bit of word and excel on the side. <<< ....
Either that or he's a top executive.
The presidents of the various companies about 15~25 years ago always had a MUCH more powerful PC than me, a lowly techie.
It was very useful for the prez of the last company I worked for, to play Solitaire on. And he much appreciated it when I showed him how to play Freecell- A much more ADVANCED game! But it didn't get me a raise.
Anyhow the company went out of business a few years later.
Anti-freeze is sort of a generic term-
It more appropriately describes its properties when mixed with water, not its formula.
Anyhow, windshield wiper usually has alcohol in it (the Methanol kind, not the Ethanol in your Scotch or gas tank).
You would not want to keep, or add this highly flammable stuff in a hot radiator.
Whereas the liquid in your radiator is a mixture of water and Ethylene Glycol - or the "newer" Propylene Glycol + a bunch of other crap you don't wanna know about.
But the original poster is right. They are all "anti-freeze" in one form or another. Whatever gets you through the night.
Just shoot more elephants.
Parsons. The T&A Elephant killer.
Who would ever buy web-hosting from him?
Targeting the richer folks
I've seen quite a few ads for the Surface and Win-8 in "upscale" magazines such as The New Yorker. Usually between the pages holding ads for Lincoln cars and Hermes. Or on the back cover.
This is how Dell started, with big glossy ads in PC magazine, when only we techies had heard of this startup company, originally called "PC's (sic) Limited".
I can't afford a Win-8 tablet myself, but if the rich folk start buying it, the hoi-polloi, such as myself (said Austin Powers) will eventually follow.
And the price will drop.
Microsoft just has to keep hammering away at the affluent crowd.
The new intromittent organ.
Well, at least she can't "get into trouble" when the spermatozoa are basically electrons.
Yes. Canada! The 20th century belongs to Canada!
I heard a news item on the CBC (The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) where the breathless announcer said that these little "lunchbox-sized" satellites would be scanning THE GALAXY for errant meteors, and then kind of implied that the "rocks" would then be shot down.
Canada, and in particular, the CBC - I grieve for you.