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I am Jack's complete lack of surprise
That the government selects a Micro$haft solution. I'm pretty sure everyone involved in the procurement process is a M$ flunky.
>> Office 365 would ensure greater resilience against connection
>> problems causing delays to emails as there were more access points to
>> Microsoft’s servers than to Parliamentary servers.
Obviously they haven't heard of all the downtime Azure, 365, and Outlook.com have been experiencing.
>> Templates across both Houses would need to be redeveloped to
>> work with Office 365. Training would be needed to realise the
>> additional benefits of the software.
So there's absolutely no benefit to using 365 other than lining the pockets of "certified" contractors and Micro$haft. Everyone will have to be retrained anyway.
I'm sure the procurement officials enjoyed the wining and dining courtesy of M$.
Re: Why Windows is doomed.
>> From the second I press the power button on the front of the case, to the time I can enter my password is about 14 seconds for my Windows 7 machine
That's not booted. The desktop isn't even loaded yet, let alone usable. Turn on automatic login, then time it again. All Windows versions are slow including 8 once you discount kernel caching and such nonsense.
Re: Why Windows is doomed.
>> My windows 8 box in about 3 with UEFI or whatever it is called.
Using a cached kernel. Try dual booting or updating Windows, It'll triple that time easy. I'm running on a i5 3570k @ 4ghz, 8gb dual channel 1600mhz ram, a Vertex 4 SSD, and 10 seconds is average to boot Windows 8, not including post / bios delay. So I call BS on 3 seconds.
>>I don't think "boot time" is really going to kill windows.
No but system requirements will. Take a look at the 32gb Surface 2 tablet. Guess how much of that 32gb is used by the OS? Then there's battery life, lack of app ecosystem, and dearth of features and customisation.
In 10 years or less I reckon the only place you'll see PC still running Windoze will be in the enterprise, and even they'll be phasing them out by then.
>>That "lazy code" has mostly been ripped out with most developers now writing .Net applications the API's are fairly clean and fast.
Nobody uses .Net unless they want to be locked down to proprietary Windows platforms. Both in development, and in distribution. That's not to mention the fact that it's dog slow.
No AAA apps or games use .Net - That's a fact.
>>Merging windows phone and RT is the most logical thing Microsoft did in a long time
Yes I agree. Those Fisher Price tiles should be kept on Micro$haft's Phones and Tablets, not on the desktop.
Re: Why Windows is doomed.
>> The reason Windows is finished is speed. They've stuffed it so full of lazy code and pointless bells and whistles that it takes an age to start compared to phone or a tablet.
Case in point, my Arch Linux install boots to XFCE desktop in approximately 4 seconds from grub. Windows 8 takes considerably longer despite turning off half the services, disabling prefetch / indexing, etc. Probably about 10 seconds before the desktop is usable. That's from an SSD of course.
Re: Which one ? Windows 8 with luck
>> "Windows 8 is a disaster for those who wish to use keyboards & mice " I really don't see >> this, I've been using 8 since not too long after release. The updates with 8.1 are nice, particularly the start button's return.
What on earth's the point of a start button if it only takes the user straight back to metrosexual land? People want a START M.E.N.U, not a fricken start button for christs sake. Not that I really care anyway because I rarely have to experience the torture of using the schizophrenic Windows 8 these days (thank the gods).
Re: Which one ? Windows 8 with luck
>>Hopefully vendors will see the light & offer PCs with Windows 7 pre-installed with an option to "upgrade" to Windows 8.
I'd rather see more vendors start offering a range of GNU/Linux PC's than Windoze. There's an abundance of choice out there like Mint, Ubuntu, Arch, Fedora, and Debian. Why are consumers forced to pay the Windoze tax in 2013?
>> It doesn't read your emails and scan your photos to do it.....And you can opt out...
Right, the same way Skydrive doesn't scan your Photo's then... Oh wait, it does...
>> Microsoft announced record profits not long ago
A company with no future will soon burn through a few billion - Just ask Nokia. The Xbox unit alone reportedly costs 3 billion. M$ hides these losses by putting them in the same division as the patent extortion scheme.
>> and seem to finally be making a big impact in mobile
Have I missed something? Where's this big impact you're talking about? The craptastic Windows Mobile had around 10-15% of the market at its height, yet Windows Fisher Price today only has 3.5%. If that's your definition of a big impact, then I'd hate to see mediocre.
While Micro$haft records your every move with their NSA-in-home-spy-cam called Kinect. And if that doesn't get you, the backdoors and phoning home ahem.. features of Windoze will.
Re: The gift that keeps on giving
>> If Android uses non-FRAND MS' technologies, the companies producing it have to pay.
If by M$' technologies, you mean broad, generalised, vague, and pre-mobile patents that should have been invalidated years ago, then yes.
>> Google could produce an alternative to FAT32/ExFAT (which seems the main issue), but they don't seem to be bothered.
They don't need to. EXT-4 is already far superior to FAT. The only reason it's included in some android OEM builds is for Windows platform (PC) support. It's unlikely Micro$haft will support any other file system except their own patent encumbered ones, ensuring a stream of revenue from pay up or else patent extortion schemes.
The good news is that the Nexus line of devices eschews sd ports, so that pretty much eliminates the need for FAT support. Of course that still doesn't stop M$ from abusing other broad and dubious patents to extort Android.
The FAT patent in question revolves around the storage of short/long file names, something that's both obvious and has prior art anyway. Clearly software patents in general need to be abolished globally, because it enables evil companies like Micro$haft to bully would-be competitors and forcibly hold on to its creaking desktop PC monopoly.
It won't matter in a few years anyway though, as M$ will be reduced to enterprise exclusivity, and patent trolling only. They're finished in the consumer market. And eventually they'll get kicked out of the enterprise market too.
>> Re: Open Source Software - brilliant idea - retraining everybody to use Linux instead of Windows,
That's the typical F.U.D M$ and their dependents use to justify spending a fortune of tax payer money on software licences every year. If you go from 95 -> XP users need retraining, if you go from XP -> Vista->7->8 (especially 8), users need retraining. Hell, every iteration of M$ Office requires retraining. Retraining is a constant, and therefore it's a blatant lie to suggest it's more costly to move to Linux.
There are many examples of successful migrations to Linux and the subsequent long term savings. The cost of dealing with Anti-virus, Anti-malware, anti-world&dog alone makes Windows incredibly expensive to maintain.
When I hear about incidents like this I just laugh. Windows is disaster waiting to happen. I've seen it so many times, and yet the UK government loves to throw tax payer money at Micro$haft for the privilege of being $hafted. But this isn't anything new. Governments around the world waste vast sums of money on useless things. Procurement is rife with corruption and overpayment.
>>LibreOffice instead M$ Office, etc will happen by magic, be completely free and not disrupt the workings of >>the NHS system at all.
And events like this misbehaving antivirus software don't disrupt the NHS? Heaven forbid they actually get infected with a virus or rootkit. On Linux, the machines wouldn't even need to run an AV. That alone would save a fortune in maintenance and licensing.
Nokia / Microsoft can dump as many of the loss making 520's as they like on the market, but it won't change the fact that Windows Phone and RT are dead.
How many App Stores has Microsoft got now? Four? LOL.
Xbox, Windows 8 x86, Windows RT / ARM, and Windows Phone App Stores are barren wastelands, with the ocassional fart app.
It's a complete nightmare developing for M$ platforms, so is it any wonder that everyone's ignoring it?
More M$ Fail
8.1 - There's now a start button. BUT IT TAKES YOU BACK TO METRO-SEXUAL LAND!!!
Microsoft are absolutely hopeless. Users don't want to play tetris with a fisher price UI, they want the fricken start menu. Sheesh...
Re: Windows 8 today, full scottish independence tomorrow
As long as they waste their own money instead of ours I don't care ;)
Re: complete with the Start button
>>The Windows8 screen is an improvement - just press the win-key, and type. No need to hunt through endless submenus devised by some egotisitical branding committee (looking at you, printer vendors), just type what you want to launch, and press return...
Err.. You do the exact same thing with the start menu too. Press Super key and start typing. It has the added benefit of not flip-flopping back and forth being two UI's which should have clearly been separated into desktop and tablet versions.
Re: sell or given away?
I hear Dell and Delta Airlines like to foist M$ device inventory onto their employees.
Re: The real WTF here is that
>> IT Pros
Pros at wasting money on a paperweight maybe, but not an IT Pro. An IT Pro wouldn't waste his time on a 10 inch screen and integrated graphics. For the same price you could get an ultrabook with a real keyboard, and non of that metro-sexual nonsense. Or better yet, a custom built PC with Arch Linux.
Re: And yet again
Apple has no problem selling 10 million devices in a weekend, so why is it impracticable for M$ to make more than 2k devices for launch?
20 per day you say? Haha. You really have no clue do you. All of it's produced in China, and they have the capability to put out 100 times that.
The reason M$ produced so little is because - 1. No one's going to buy them, and 2. M$ love having their products in the news saying they sold out. They do it every time, and every time M$ fanboy / shill sites like WMPoweruser and Neowin eat it up.
Another Paperweight from M$
These M$ tablets are paper weights anyway. The RT version can't run the legacy x86 desktop apps so the only advantage it had for people invested in the ecosystem is gone. What's left is a barren wasteland with tumbleweeds rolling around M$' App Store. And if that wasn't bad enough, users have to deal with that Metro-Sexual blatent rip off of the Wii's Home screen.
Even the pro version is pointless as well. Who the hell wants to use touch on the Windows desktop? Because that's the only place the real apps will run. It's like trying to hit a needle with a hammer, it's horrid.
Microsoft should go back to patent trolling and antitrust abuse because that's the only thing they're good at.
Re: Hey Microsoft - here's an idea
>> Except there are the features in Android that MS have (or claim to have) IP for, which are paid by the manufacturers, so no, Android isn't free, it's just you don't see the cost.
That's what's called M$ F.U.D. They want everyone to believe that Android isn't free, where as in fact it is.
Want to know how it's free? I can download it right now from AOSP, build it, and run it, without cost. That's the definition of free.
M$ can extort companies all they want, but it won't change reality, nor will it reverse the opinion that they're an abusive monopolist and patent troll.
After the Nokia device unit acquisition, Windows mobile/phone will effectively be Microsoft exclusive. Sure, you've got Samsung, HTC, and perhaps a couple of chinese firms, but no one's committing serious resources to it now, especially in light of Microsoft now competing with its own OEM's in the phone business.
I have no doubt now that Windows mobile/phone will go the way of RT; that is to say, it's a dead-end platform.
>> Steve Ballmer: "This is a company that is innovative and ethical."
I don't know which planet Ballmer lives on, but it's not planet Earth. Microsoft has single-handedly turned the word 'innovative' into a platitude. And as far as Ethics go, you couldn't find a worse example of abusive market behaviour or underhanded tactics against competitors.
FairSearch, ICOMP, patent trolling, antitrust, outright stealing of competitor products, the list goes on and on. The sooner Microsoft becomes the next Nokia/Blackberry, the better as far as I'm concerned.
Re: @ Herby
>> Your logic is, mutatis mutandis, applicable to the situation with Google/Motorola vs all the other Android handset makers.
Actually it's not. Motorola operates as a separate company, whereas Nokia itself (the devices division) will be entirely assimilated into the M$ borg upon completion of the acquisition.
That will mean M$ itself will own 80% of the WP hardware market. Motorola by comparison has perhaps 10%. The only way it would be comparable (mutatis mutandis) is if Google had acquired Samsung, then dissolved the company and produced all the Galaxy devices under the Google name.
Re: Why would anyone target Windows Phones?
>> It doesn't matter if Android has a billion installs
Er.. Yes it does. Developers go where the users are, and currently Android is 75% of the smartphone market. If you don't think that's important, then you're delusional.
>> If you happen to like MS development, and Visual Studio Express for Windows Phone [free] makes it very simple and quick to do.
And what OS are you targeting? What ever you write for Windows Phone won't work on Windows 8/RT and vice versa. Good luck with that.
Can I write Windows Phone apps on my preferered OS - GNU/Linux, or perhaps OS X? No you say? If you write code for M$' proprietary platforms, it's not portable whatsoever. That's an expensive proposition considering the tiny size of the target audience.
>> Yes, I may get more downloads (possibly even sales) from Android but development is far less pleasant.
If you want something free and easy, why not try Android Studio ( https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html ). It's cross platform, and your target audience is 75% of the smartphone market, and about 60% of the tablet market. Write it once and it'll run on both tablets and smartphones, unlike Windows Phone/8/RT. I know which is more pleasant to me.
>> and ultimately there is enough of a market in WP to compensate for the app developer who just wants to earn good money rather than take over the world.
Really? So why is M$ having to pay app developers to even consider writing for their platform? And when they get the money, they never update the app again. That's why the Windows marketplace has the highest number of dead apps compared to Apple's App Store, and Google Play.
Unless you have no overheads and your time has no value, then Windows as an App platform is financial suicide. 3% market share, highest no. of dead apps, lowest quality apps, most major apps missing, and that's just the app store. The OS itself is a disaster. It has all the failings of iOS without the benefits of the App Store, or Apple's brand. I won't compare it to Android because it's not even in the same class.
>> Wake up. Google IS EVIL. And they're going to get much worse.
Google is positively angelic when juxtaposed with Microsoft. M$ even has the distinction of featuring in some dictionaries as "The Evil Corporation". Can't get any more clear cut than that.
Re: Some toy throwing going on here.
>> Mind you, I don't like Google's "We don't have to use HTML 5 but you do" approach either. Anyone who operates under "do as I say not as I do" is someone I never want to deal with, as I despise nothing more than a hypocrite.
There are two API's for YouTube. Public, which uses HTML5, and private, which has to be licensed from Google. M$ neither licensed nor asked permission before reverse engineering the private API, and subsequently threw the toys out of the pram when Google shut them down.
It's perfectly within Google's right to create their own app on Android / iOS that uses a private API to access their own hosted service. That same principle applies to Apple, Blackberry, Facebook, Twitter, and numerous other companies that have a dual public/private API for a hosted service. Without such controls, it would be hard for a service to maintain a consistent level of service and prevent abuses.
In addition to M$ fragrantly abusing the YouTube API, it also decided to rip of the YouTube logo / brand itself, posing as an Official app. This clearly violates YouTube's TOS.
So M$ won't get special treatment and will have to use the third party API (HTML5) like everyone else, and if it doesn't like it, well there's always a web browser, though I pity anyone that has to use IE. Oh, and while we're on the subject, M$ doesn't allow competing browsers on WP8 or RT, so how about we demand that they fix that or we'll stir up some antitrust action via a proxy like FairSearch?
On a personal note, it's great to see M$ get Micro$hafted for a change.
Nokia's Fall from Glory
Nokia is paying big money for tv spots advertising its latest Lumia Phones, as evidenced by the constant adverts while watching The Mill (good show btw). Unfortunately for Nokia, the only thing they could promote in the advert was their camera hardware because let's be honest here, the OS is a POS, and the apps people do want (instagram, youtube, googlemaps) don't exist on the platform, and probably never will. Nokia is fighting a losing battle here.
Had Nokia made the decision to go Android instead, or even multi-OS, I'm pretty sure they'd be rolling in the money right about now. But instead, Steven "The Trojan Horse" Elop went all in with his ex-employer (or is it current employer??). In my opinion, the entire board should be fired for that ignominious decision.
Re: There you go...
@ AC 17:37
>>Microsoft's enterprise products are already the best integrated stack with the lowest TCO on the market - Especially Server 2012 / Hyper-V.
Bullshit. GNU/Linux and FOSS based VMs are far superior to M$' proprietary spaghetti code. That's why they are the incumbent.
TCO is always higher on M$ products when vendor lock-in is taken into account. Not tol mention the retraining required to use the Windose 8 monstrosity. Then there is the GUI requirement for administrating Windose, and using the M$ Windose console (shudders).
>> Microsoft need to sort out the consumer side - they have got ahead of the curve - releasing a touch optimised OS way ahead of competitors - but ahead of customers readiness for it too!
I can't work out if you are a troll or just ignorant. You call the frankenstein schizophrenic OS that is Windose 8 "a touch optimised OS way ahead of competitors" ? HAHAHA. Clearly you've never used the desktop app (as M$ likes to call it these days). It's the most touch-unoptimised environment ever! It's horrible to use. And the tetris UI from the 80's (metro) isn't much better, especially compared to Android and iOS, which are true touch first OS'.
And M$ isn't "ahead of customer readiness" as you call it, it's just that no one wants anything with Micro$haft or Windose written on it.
>> If they sort out the learning curve then across the ecosystem they will win.
A well designed touch based OS doesn't have learning curve problems. It's intuitive or it should be. Windose 8 isn't, it's a horrible Jekyll and Hyde experience that's bad at both the desktop and touch.
>> Microsoft have a much more powerful and secure OS than the competition
Let's see shall we:
1. Slowest desktop OS out of GNU/Linux and OS X. Valve recently found that the OpenGL version of the Source Engine running on Ubuntu ran significantly faster than the Direct3D version running on Windows.
2. Windose Phone has the weakest app ecosystem, the worst multitasking, the lowest specs (can't even support a 1080p screen). Never gets updates, and when it does, it gets a crippled version (7.8).
3. x86 Windose has the most malware, rootkit infections of any other OS in history (probably billions of infections world wide). IE has zero day attacks against it seemingly every month. IE is a component of Windose.
>> just look at vulnerability figures for Android, Linux, OS-X, IOS, etc versus the latest Microsoft products
More vulnerabilities do not equal more exploits / attacks. Look at the real world exploits running in the wild and propagating to see which is the riskiest OS. In this case it's Windose hands down.
In addition, vulnerabilities often have nothing to do with rootkits / viruses, which is solely the domain of the Windose OS. GNU/Linux has peer reviewed software repositories, and Android has the Play Store, both of which make it virtually impossible to become infected by malware. And in Android's case, it even has a permission system which lets the user see what OS services the App requires before it's installed, with the latest builds containing a service by service allow/deny permission system. That never has and never will exist in Windose.
>> And compare the laggy, glitch, unstable insecureness of Android to the smoothness and speed of Windows Phone...
Laggy, as in Android's case was simply the user perceiving the changing frame rates. Since Jellybean, Android's UI has been running at a constant frame rate vsynced to the refresh rate, thanks to project butter. Exactly the same as iOS, and Windose Phone's silverlight (flash/SWF UI).
I've also seen laggyness on Nokia's Lumia line of phones too, which run Windose. And in terms of unstable or glitches, you can't beat M$' update which bricked many phones, or Nokia's Lumia's which wiped all user data, or perhaps the exploit where someone could send an SMS to a Windose phone and brick it.
Smart Devices volume (million units) Q2 2013: 7.4, Q2 2012: 10.2, YOY Change = -27%. So Nokia's smartphones sales have reduced by nearly 30% since the same quarter last year. And other figures are mostly negative volumes and growths, so it paints a rather bleak picture of Nokia's future.
I wonder what Elop's supposed plan B is? Sell to Microsoft?
I find it bewildering why companies still use Microsoft software. It's more expensive, incompatible with practically everything else out there, and completely standards non-compliant.
The only reason I can possibly imagine is that the people making the decisions in these companies are either uninformed, or worse still, rely on M$ software for their jobs.
Re: Google, just pull your finger out of your arse and start paying royalties.
>> Well said.! People forget that because of Microsoft more money has been through their success to needy people then has been given by all the other charities in the world, ever.
What a load of bullshit. M$ only gives money or products away if it benefits them in some way. Usually it's for indoctrinating children or educational institutions in the M$ ecosystem. Any monies given away are used for tax purposes.
And even if that were true, it still doesn't excuse all the damage they have done and still do to the software and technology world. Something which could have benefited many more people than a few tax-deduction motivated donations to charities could ever do. Working against free software using patents hurts the world significantly more. Funding SCO, spreading FUD against free software, suing small companies using said free software using bogus patents ( TOMTOM ). NDA's with PC OEM's intended to discourage the use of non-M$ software. The list goes on and on.
The world would be a far better place without M$ in it that's for sure. No amount of shilling from "M$ reputation managers" will change that fact.
>> Microsoft might not be perfect but that company and Bill's generosity have given the world more than anybody else.
Generosity! haha. Bill gates does nothing that doesn't benefit himself or Microsoft, whether it's privatising schools, funding big phara with its proprietary and expensive drugs, or contaminating our food chain by pushing GM crops through Monsanto, in which Bill Gates is heavily invested.
Use this search term on Google for more info on Bill Gates' so called generosity: bill gates site:techrights.org
>> I would rather see Microsoft succeed and Bill Gates make more money to give away then any other company.
So you'd like to see people get ripped off on software and hardware so that Monsanto and Big Pharma can get it all? What a great idea, why didn't I think of that.
Re: "There are 2 possible outcomes..."
>> 5) Throw the USPTO in the bin and create a new US patent system centered around sanity
Unfortunately the words "patents" and "sanity" can never be used in the same sentence. Every software patent system will eventually descend into the chaos we currently have right now because we inhabit a capitalist economy. Companies get bigger and bigger and so do their patent portfolios, and so eventually no software can be written which doesn't violate someone else's patent.
The only solution is to abolish software patents. Nothing else will work. Besides, copyright is more than enough protection against blatant code ripping.
Re: patent claims to block Americans from using ... calendar functions
>> Patent claims do not prevent people from using something, they are to prevent Google from stealing something
How can "people" use something if all the devices that implement it are banned by M$' patent extortion scheme?
Software patents are absurd. A developer can't create a program these days that doesn't violate one of M$' or Apple's patents. That's how broad and vague they all are.
Re: They would know
Indeed. Coming from the company that practically invented the NDA.
Ahh Poor Little Micro$haft
Their government granted monopolies on decade old, every day and obvious things in technology are not being enforced. That's the sound of the world's smallest violin playing for you..
On a brighter note, M$' software, devices, and services are being used by less people every day. Perhaps we'll be rid of this mafia organisation and patent troll in due course.
Re: There was no choice
@ AC 1st July 2013 10:32 GMT
>> A whole lot of the MoD is running on XP - because it's certified secure.
I haven't laughed so hard in a while. Windows and secure? Used like that in the same sentence is an oxymoron. There are zero day exploits exposed every month, and are being actively used in the wild. It's a dream come true for chinese and american government sponsored hacker teams, not to mention malware writers.
As far as government procurement goes, when the MOD spends £20 for a single lightbulb, it's decidedly unsurprising that it picked a solution that's the most expensive, insecure, and vendor locked as possible. Though I'm sure the procurement team is enjoying their bribes, sorry, ahem.. gifts from Microsoft.
Many people are making excuses like - it's the economy, lack of touch screen devices, or that the market has suddenly become mature and everyone already has a PC. What a crock of shit. There's only one explanation for a 12% drop ( a record ) in PC sales in Q1 and that's the monstrosity that is Windows 8.
However unlike many others, I hope Microsoft does continue down this path of fail, because then we might see more mainstream PC makers preinstalling GNU/Linux distros, and that's great for everyone. A PC monopoly like Micro$haft Windows hurts the entire industry.
Reluctancy to act
There's a reason politicians are reproving companies like Google in the media rather than fixing the source of the problem, which is of course the tax laws, and that's because most companies do the same thing. If the tax law exploits were fixed, many of companies that politicians have relationships with would lose money. Therefore we have this strange situation where a media PR war is being waged, yet all the while nothing is done to fix the exploits that companies are using to avoid paying taxes.
Charities and shell companies, and dividends seem to be a popular way to avoid paying tax. What does the government do about them? Absolutely nothing, because they also benefit from the same loopholes. Only the ordinary working class suffer because they can't evade PAYE.
The Nexus line of devices annihilates the competition ( iOS, Blackberry, Windows Phone, etc ). Once you've used one, Microsoft's metro seems like a kids toy, and Apple's iOS a creaking old ship.
Re: Come in Major Eadon!- Wait
>>And whether it's "ls" or "dir" to you!
Both work in Linux duh!
infact any command name will because we have bash aliases ;)
World's Smallest violin
For the world's biggest monopolist and extorter.
Now where's the popcorn so I can watch Microsoft implode in style...
Re: Nokia was Going to Die with Symbian
>> Market share was tanking before the 'burning platforms' memo. Everyone was going iPhone, Android or Blackberry by the end of 2010
That's partly true. Symbian is/was an outdated OS, however, Nokia's partners (carriers/networks) only really abandoned Symbian when Elop made that idiotic statement. Nokia should have had the tenacity to stick with the Meego platform, rather than jumping ship to a dead on arrival like Windows Phone. In fact, had Nokia concurrently developed Meego while also adopting Android (and perhaps WP as well), it would be in a far better position today. Instead it put all its eggs in the Microsoft basket. A disastrous move, and one that will likely end up killing it. But then again, that could of been the Stephen 'The Trojan Horse' Elop's and Microsoft's plan from the beginning.
I've heard that the return rates are very high with Windows Phones, including the Lumia line. Not only that but Nokia only shifted 400k in North America where the margins are the highest. So in order for Nokia to shift that number of Lumia's, it's offering massive massive discounts just to shift the stock.
The Asha 'feature phone pretending to be a smart phone' line will likely sell much better than WP8.
Re: He's very good...
>> He's very good...
...at all that literature stuff.
But is he really? If his depth of knowledge of literature is on par with his technical knowledge then I have serious doubts. To the uninitiated he perhaps seems to know what he's talking about, or when it's scripted for him, but in reality, he could just be BSing all of us, mixing half truths. I know very little about literature except for some of the greek and roman classics and a few modern novella's, so I can't judge if what he says is the true.
Stephen Fry lacks a sense of humour when he's the subject. He also jumps on any bandwagon he can find. Anything to be in the limelight I suppose.
Amusing article by the way ;)
Re: Stop feeding the troll
Seconded. This guy doesn't even deserve being mentioned. He's been pushing the Microsoft proprietary and patent encumbered .NET agenda for years, as well as criticising GNU/Linux and free software. He's well and truly Microsoft's bitch now.
Re: You must be joking
>>Er, C# isn't locked down.
The standard is controlled by Microsoft. That alone is cause for concern. Then there are the patents, which Microsoft could use to attack anyone using the language ala FAT. If there's one thing that Microsoft's FAT/exFAT/ActiveSync patents have shown us, it's that if they're allowed to establish a monopoly in any area, they'll go around suing and extorting everyone. That's the reason I'll never use Microsoft's development tools.
>>It's ECMA certified and the specs are published there.
So is OOXML, and we all know how much of a clusterfuck that is. ECMA is the first place Microsoft runs when it wants to "legitimise" a product. It's quite meaningless. Microsoft still controls the specs, patents, and everything surrounding dotnet and c#. I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.
>>Also, all the VS "Express" kits are fairly light, not to mention free.
The express version is just as slow and bloated as the full version. If you like the eyecandy and distractions of the ribbon toolbar, then go right ahead, but I prefer to do real development. Even Microsoft's own developers don't use it. That's testifies to its uselessness.
And let's not forget that the express kit, while it may be free, doesn't support Xamarin plugins, in fact, I don't think it supports plugins at all. For that, you'll need to buy the full version. That's all going to set you back a pretty penny.
Personally, I'd rather save that money and use it to make a better app/game that isn't reliant third parties. I can make great Android apps/games using free operating systems and free development tools, so why pay for them?
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