212 posts • joined 18 Sep 2012
Nokia, Microsoft... whatever, its still the phone that is sold in the dark dusty corner of every cell phone carrier in the USA. A busy store may sell a single Lumia for every 300 Android and iPhones.
It can only get worse
And on top of this... Rupert Murdoch, the nicest old man in the world is looking to purchase TWC!
Like the USA needs more control given to that fascist.
Re: If you actually USE the systems then the answer is obvious
The win 8 OS is fine. The UI is shit in operation and visually. I and many others do NOT love XP. It is the first modern OS that ms made for the masses. Yet in many ways it was still substandard to 1990 version of Amiga DOS 2.0.
Business are not thrilled to spend money on stupid touch screens and training..
your statement about people not having experience with touch screens it's quite chilly. Everyone and their grandmother has a touch screen phone. like Samsung TVs that use hand gestures to control a a crappy user interface is simply a crappy user interface. Windows 8 is just ugly on top of crap to boot.
Re: The Win 8 Car Crash
I would like to add, at the time when I first tried windows 8 preview. I have been using Windows 7 Phone interface on my samsung galaxy 1 S phone which is Android 2.x. Because the Windows Phone interface for simple slick and work very well. So I had high expectations for Windows 8 and was planning on buying a Windows 8 Phone replace Android. I still think metro is a good PHONE UI... And have installed Launcher 8 on novice users phones. (Launcher 8 is more advanced than wp8 in some ways - with its individual custom color icons that users can choose and rotating icons when you put your phone to landscape. This is something that it has done since launcher 7 and Microsoft never took the hint, how stupid of them)
after using Windows 8, I change my mind to never buy anything "8" from Microsoft ever again. And as of today we can see the results of their mistakes that they have been warned about long before 8 ever shipped.
Re: The Win 8 Car Crash
Before Windows 8 first came out, I thought the idea behind the user interface being common between the phone, tablet and desktop was an excellent idea. In order to get phone & tablet sales, people would love win 8 PC desktop experience and will buy those mobile devices instead of Android.
then I used the preview version of Windows 8 and after 15 minutes, realized that it was pure shit. But I kept it for a few months to see if it will grow on me. I also showed it to other people and most of them hate it more than I did. Using Windows 8 made me do something I have not done and over 10 years, and that was to try Linux. on the same computer, I'm murdered windows 8 and installed Linux Mint. And guess what, it booted just as fast as Windows 8. Finding the settings and downloading applications eer... programs was easy and fast. And I have not read any help files or have to look anything up on the Internet to set it up. My wife uses it as her work computer and as a novice she has no problems using it. like many people today or primary access to the Internet is with her phone, an Android phone.
(my response was typed and spoken into my Android phone). for most people, I see no reason why they need to buy a Microsoft product ever again.
Nazis in America?!
Have you guys seen what Murdoch's Newscorp does in America? Straight out of the Nazi handbook. And a huge chunk of the American population eat it up. Every show from morning till night says the exact same thing.
Is it like that in all countries that Murdoch sticks his old dick into? I was hoping the old fart would go to prison with the computer and phone hacking scandal.
Fascism sucks and its alive and well in America.
Use the ninite.com downloader... it installs software without the ad-ware add-ons.
What bugs me now are the Register ViDEO ADs!! They won't bloody shut up! Really fun when a browser has 3-5 tabs on your site and on top of that - each page has TWO Videos ads?!
Lets see $35 a year or when I install, I click OFF the option to install add-ins... not hard.
Wii U blows for many reasons.
The Wii-U has soo many faults. Being that its last-Gen technology with current Gen pricing with a huge controller (Hello... kids?! Small hands! They like small light controllers!)
The $300(US) Wii-U doesn't equal the feature set, the titles, the flexibility of a new $200 PS3!! $270 gets you a PS3 with a 500GB HD and a game. Want to play DVD or Blu-Ray on your WiiU? Nope.
If Nintendo *WAS* smart, the would have not bothered with its dumb-tablet controller. Just improve the Wii-Controllers (PS3 levels) and sell it for $250 about 1-2 years earlier would have done well.
For many people... $300 for such a thing, is not worth it. A $400 PS4 is easily 10x the better.
PS: Reg.UK = PLEASE stop using he video ads!
Same idiots as
These are the same idiots who NEED to have a label printed on their phone screen "Peel protective cover to see display" on new phones.
Cool with me
I would love to see Samsung bite off Microsoft's balls...
Re: Call Scooby and the gang!
Guess they keep Nokia engineers and simply send the manufacturing to China... as usual.
the whole thing seems stupid.
Wouldn't have been cheaper to have paid a Chinese company to make a phone with a MS logo on it?
Hence, I'm going LINUX... already started migrating. PS4 will be my gaming system and Linux to do desktop work.
Re: I prefer Noddy
That is because MS, like others tech companies of the 80s (Apple, Commodore, Atari) have lost their founders. Jobs, Gates, Tramiel were creating new things... C= died 20 years ago because of stupidity (Tramiel was kicked out of C= who then bought Atari Computer)
There is simply less and less reasons to continue supporting windows/Microsoft.
Sony Playstation TV does streaming and includes a controller for $100. Plug it into any TV... a 1080p 32" starts at $225.... a lot cheaper than the $400 shield (w/ controller and stand)
Re: Sony lost more.
Nintendo has no real choice. IT doesn't matter if they make 20 game titles if there are ONLY 7 million WiiUs in the world and no more. Nobody will BUY new units to a dead end platform.
For example, off the top of my head. There are about 80 games planed for the PS4 this year (including those already out). And about 25 announced for 2015.
Meanwhile, for the WiiU, only 25 games for 2014 and 1 for 2015. YUCK!
So... how is Nintendo going to survive if NOBODY is buying the console? The money spent on R&D is not recouped without money from 3rd party royalties. They sure can't afford to build a whole new Modern platform to compete against the PS4.
Now, a stripped down WiiU (DVD rather than blu-Ray) without the tablet sold in China for $150 may do okay... thats about it.
OR, Nintendo can make games for the PS3 and PS4 and have access to 90million customers vs. 6 million WiiUs.
WiiU is Nintendos last console. (Not including their degraded China and Fitness consoles). Or the following option... based on the 3 options that Nintendo has.
1 - Nintendo tries to sell the WiiU for the next 2-3 years = goes out of business. Sells off IP.
2 - Makes their IP titles for the PS3 and PS4. (Why bother with MS? No Xboxes in Japan)
3 - Hold on for another 2 years, release a WHOLE new console that can EASILY smack down the PS4/Xbone because their new console has 2-3x the CPU & GPU horse power.
Option 2 is safer. Option 3, they maybe dead before then.
Blah! Even if the Xbone was $350, I will still pay $400 for the PS4.
Other than a few MS game titles, all games are available for the PS4 with more power.
Also, the Xbox is like an ugly 80s VCR, just like the 80's looking Windows 8.
Other than the camera, it seems the G-LTE is almost on par with the Moto X... which is what I own. Its handy that the user can buy and switch new backs whenever they want... unlike the X.
But I needed something with a decent camera, which the X does include. Not as great as HTC, but still very good by Motorola standards.
The phones for seniors need improvement. Anyone with an older mom/dad, etc can barely use these cheap phones. The PROBLEM is that they make these phones TINY with TINY screens.
A good senior phone list:
- 2" Screen with good dpi. 320x320 at least.
- larger buttons, and not all the exact same shape. (Function buttons not same as dial)
- Dedicated speaker button. Better yet, a default option for Speaker always on. (yuk)
- Standard headphone jack.
- flip phone means no Lock is needed as much... but they have their own issues. My last DUMB phone was a Sony slider that was quite nice. Good size.
Just went to 29
Ooops. My FF updated to 29.0! Its not so bad... and hit the CUSTOMIZE button on the bottom of the menu box... and you can turn ON / OFF the title bar and Menu Bar. There is some user customization... its weak, but its more option than Chrome. FF 29 Tab Grouping is VERY weak and crumble-some to use compared to Operas... which is elegant, smooth and easy to use.
"Gone is the familiar orange Firefox menu in the upper left of the desktop browser window."
FireFox has always been a rather crappy browser, off the shelf. They have no original thought to design and function of their product... which for me, makes it a rather useless browser to use... other than testing website design, just like I do with IE.
When FF went from 3 > 4 and started this monthly updates to version 29?! First, they copied IE 8/9 with 4.x Then they quickly COPIED Opera 10 with FF 5.x.... and so today they have gone Chrome?!
It sucks that Opera has gone to shit using Chrome as its engine. Now, that wouldn't be ALL BAD if Opera 20~ at least FUNCTIONED like Opera 12!! Which many of us are STILL using that out-dated browser. Thus, making modern Opera is somewhat pointless!
Features from Opera 11~12 that is missing:
- Stacking Tabs into groups (SUPER handy)
- Great zooming controls
- The most UI customization! You can put your buttons anywhere. Zoom sliders where you want, etc.
- How it handles browser/tab history is awesome. IE/FF totally suck in this area and Chrome is weak.
Opera 12s weakness is that its out-dated (but otherwise reliable). It doesn't print out pages very well (compared to IE and Chrome).
So my browser of today: Chrome and Opera... and I use Opera for work & management because of its tab-grouping function. If Opera WOULD make these features work on their Chrome-Opera version, then I'd be happy to "upgrade"... otherwise WHY BOTHER.
There are many reasons why people may use 3 different browsers at the same time... if they all LOOK like Chrome, it would be rather confusing.
Re: I guess Apple needs to
LOL!! I just got a new phone. I had the usual choices. I went with the MOTO-X... I could have gone with the iPhone5S for $10 more a month... so its not really hurting to pay a bit more for an iPhone.
iPhones are very nice looking, but I don't need one and they are more likely to be stolen. I have a custom Moto X (Yes, I'm in the USA - hopefully Europe will get it) that is easily MY phone.
I didn't go with LG (which are great phones) because I don't like the power & volume buttons on the back nor the glossy cheap plastic. I didn't go with the Samsung S4 because of its gloss and the HUGE bodies of both the S4 and S5. The MOTO-X has the cleanest Android OS... setting up the Alarms is AWESOME compared to anyone else - where you spend so much energy flipping numbers.
Win9 will not be Win7. Win9 will be based off of Win8 with more UI changed... at least the TIFKAM apps will run in a window design... plan on it being just as ugly as Win8.
There is an update to that problem.
Install Windows 7.
Re: Who at Microsoft is making up the names... and why do they still have a job?
Coming soon in a year:
Windows 8.1 Update Plus GTX Special Z Edition with Halo theme
Re: Who at Microsoft is making up the names... and why do they still have a job?
No shit. Calling it an "upate" is one of the dumbest things ever. That why we HAVE version numbers so people KNOW what they are using.
How about 8.2? Then have an 8.3, etc... you would think a COMPUTER company would know how to do this.
Apple did this with the iPad... with the iPad4.. er "New iPad" or was that the iPad3 - oh yeah, apple called it "3rd Gen iPad" as "iPad 3" was confusing? So when you need tech support or need to sell it... you have a "used new iPad for sale"?!
For people who don't get laid.
Re: I have an idea.
You are correct sir! While I have listed and voiced things that would make a NEW Windows usable, it doesn't mean I would run out and BUY IT! If win8.2 came out at $40~50 for those who have XP and Win7 (Like w8.0 - which even worked for preview 8.0 installs) a few months from now, I still would not bother. What would be my benefits?
1 - Faster Boot? Who gives a shit? My old reliable intel X25 SSD boots up in 20 seconds.... BUT I rarely ever SHUT down my computer. It goes to sleep.
2 - Metro apps?! Who cares!
3 - Improved Task manager. Yes, its VERY good, one of the best things of WIndows 8... but (A) I am rarely in task manager and (B) its not worth rebuilding my computer (I only do clean installs)
4 - Get the UP arrow back in Windows Explorer! (Was there in XP) Yawn... there is an Explorer replacement which even gives you tabbed drive windows and the UP ARROW... I still use the built in version.
5 - Improved File copy/move window! Yes, its the best ever from MS. Like the graph... But I've since installed Terracopy (its free) and it totally destroys Wind8's file copy window. Its not as pretty, but its far more powerful... those files that fail to move, won't stop it from moving other files. And it'll queue multiple copies jobs.
6 - You get a new desktop look and feel! Already hate it. Does nothing better, just different and sometimes idiotic. Its ugly, I don't like to look at Windows 8. It will ALWAYS nag me... "Why am I using this piece of shit for?!" Google image search "windows 8 consumer preview screenshot" and check out the skin job... its a cleaned up tweaked version of 7... I like it. Not this 80's flat shit.
Where having Window 8.2~9 fixed and usable is important for the common user who needs a new computer... especially Windows XP home and small business users. THAT is what we need. I don't recommend anyone buy a Win8 product. I tell them to get a ThinkPad with Win7Pro installed.
I'm with you Coward... I really don't see a reason to replace Windows 7 any time soon. Unless Win9 blows away Win7 (I'm not counting on that), I'll be on Linux full time in a few more years.
Still a very UGLY 1987ish Windows 2.0 bland color design. How about having the Win8-Preview Skin as an option or default? That was actually an improvement over Win7. For tablets with smaller screen, the simplistic coloring is okay... Not so for those of us with regular computer screens.
Also... Why call this "Windows 8.1 Update"?! How about use NORMAL terminology!! Call it Windows 8.2! There... its simple and everyone knows its NOT 8.1 or 8.0. Geeez!!
This is pretty much HOW Windows 8 should have been to begin with. But I would at least have the option to make the METRO launcher be a sticky on the left side of the screen. (Like the launch bar, other apps can't overlap it) Then if the use wants to be OLD-SCHOOL, hitting the Windows Button would make it into a classic style Start Menu.... who knows, how about give us a few options.
I'm already migrating to Linux... I see very little for me to stay with Windows, other than some older games and Adobe... And overall, Windows 7 does everything I need it to at this time. So here is what MS needs to have a chance:
1 - Improve the skin.
2 - Proper functioning Start Menu.
3 - Remove the Charms or find a functionally better way.... but in reality, putting it on the Start Menu WORKS.
4 - Reduce the price to $50, retail... with disc. And its not an "upgrade" disc only.
5 - Get rid of the 30character-whatever keys... Apple and Linux don't use such things. Its a pain in the ass to fix a messed up computer.
And with that... I may consider some MS OS that is not Win7 to others.
Re: XP Needs to Die
That is fine for you.... its a PC. not an industrial computer. Its easy for YOU to upgrade or change out your computer. You are young, things are more open to you. In my youth, I upgraded to every new OS, even beta. Re-building your OS/boot/settings were a part of life - to make every Mhz count, because back then, our computer speed was typically single or double digit Mhz. NOT GHz. My first 5 computer speeds: 1Mhz, 2Mhz (C=128), 7Mhz (Amiga 1000), 14Mhz (A1000 CPU upgrade), 25Mhz (Amiga 3000). Then 100Mhz i486 as I entered the PC market.
As we get OLDER and need to spend more time WORKING rather than tinkering, having a reliable computer was most important. My last Win98se system lasted about 2-3years from its fresh install. My XPs lasted 1~3 years. My current PC is a 2yr old Win7 install that should last me another 3~5 years. I rarely push my quad-core 3.xGhz intel to its limits (I forgot its clock speed).
So for many companies, as long as it keeps things working, fine. Also, *YOU* are not the one who is spending money to pay to upgrade 12, 1200, 12,000 whatever PCs and making sure they work with the rest of the network or equipment... or training the minions to use it. At one of my small biz. clients, they have a $6000 plotter from HP who don't provide a working driver for Windows 7. Are you offering to BUY us a new plotter? Its BS that HP can't get a 10yr old plotter to work!! Again, this isn't the same as my $100 multi-function at home that tends to be replaced every 3~4 years.
Its good to have forward thinking... but this isn't the 80s anymore. And you are correct in some ways... One of the things that HURT & killed the Amiga was that it was a locked-in design. Games made in 1991 were coded to run on 1986 Amigas.... ie: What works fine on the cheapest 7Mhz Amiga would have problems with my $2500 25Mhz, also the games wanted OS1.3 but would fail with OS 2.x or 3.x. Because the company was stupid to setup DevKits to state "STOP HITTING THE HARDWaRE" so hard. So they were kind of like consoles... So yeah, in 1992 the company was building and selling NEW Amiga PCs with OS 1.3, 2.2 and 3.0 - God what a mess.
MS can cheaply afford to support XP Security updates... that is all they need to do. Yes, it would be GREAT if those companies can buy newer hardware with Win7 on them... but they cannot.
Re: Double-tap to wake
The Moto X has a similar function. Just moving the phone will make the screen fade showing time and notification. Press and hold screen to quick see a text.
Rarely use the Power button anymore... compared to my last two Android phones... especially my Samsung.
Where would that put Motorola? LG?
The 8bit MC CPU was the 6800 (if I remember right). The 6502 is based off the 6800, eventually made its way to C= CMOS company and ended up being used in AppleII, Atarti and tones of other 8-bit computers.
It was never a good "home" computer... very expensive and under-powered... My pricing memory starts around 1985.
Apple IIe = $1000 (without a floppy drive)
C=64 = $200 (64k / 1mhz)
C=128 = $400 (128k / 2mhz / 80col display / z80)
C=128 + 320K floppy drive = $675. (40col color monitor = $200 / 80col monitor = $300)
Amiga 1000 (256k) = $1200 ($100 for 512k version). included an 880K floppy drive. This computer ran circles around the PC XT and AT computers. It only had a single slot, but it didn't need 6 slots as most functions were built in (graphics / sound / PAR&SEL ports, etc).
If MS was never allowed to make MS-DOS, just PC-DOS for IBM... there never would have been clones... the IBM PC would have died by 1990 or so. Amigas or Macs would have dominated the desktop computers.. or at least have an more balanced share.
Re: keyboard hell
The PCjr... take a POS computer (the IBM PC), make it a smaller and cheaper POS. DOS systems have always been crap since MS-bought it and licensed it to IBM.
Re: Floppy drives
Floppy drives came in different at different quality levels. So the very dumb Apple ][ drives barely functioned... but for back then, it was a way to make them cheep. Some drives were $200~400, some were $1000. I still have my 1985 C=1571 dual-sided (Whopping 320K of storage) floppy drive that I paid $280 USD. The drive is bigger than my ThinkPad. Half of the space is the PSU.
It was easily more powerful than any AppleII drive. But by the mid-late 80s, the much better 3.5" disks were becoming common. Because of Amiga, Atari ST and Mac - of course PC won't gain 3.5" as a standard drive until the mid 90s. YEP! In 1993, it was STANDS to get a PC with a 5.25 and 3.5" drives. but they were down to $30 a pop. Win95 made the CD-ROM drive very much a standard.. I've only ONCE installed Windows95 via 14+ floppies for a client who was too cheap to buy a $100 CD-ROM drive... after that, we'd charge extra for the hassle.
I still have my Amiga 1000 and 3000. I think they still work. Back in those days, I paid about $200 for floppy drives. The 2MB memory side-car for my A1000 was originally $1000+ and is heavier than my ThinkPad.
Re: Onward to even More Successes...???
Really, a year to develop an IDE controller?! The 1200 came out first and had IDE. But I never heard of this being the cause of the demise of the Amiga. C= as whole, killed the Amiga as it was a bit of a sham-tax business. They didn't care too much about being successful.
Since I was using a VGA monitor on my Amiga 1000 and knew how the A3000 looked, the quality of the de-interlacer in the AGA was horrible. C= should made to many short cuts and the PC Clones were cheaper with better quality output. Unlike the days of the Amiga 1000 or 2000s. hell, the MSRP on my Amiga 3000 was $2500, much cheaper than a $4000 Mac IIx. There was so many problems with C=/Amiga management that I didn't see them lasting long, so I bought a new A3000 for $800(USD) as it was reduced because of the A1200/4000... it would last me a few more years before going to Windows95 *ugh*.
Sad thing is, it really did take MS 10 years to kind-of equal an Amiga... and longer for Mac.
True... but I'd prefer Google over fb.
Re: Windows 8 as envisaged by Microsoft is not for doing real work
You said "Microsoft was able to recover from the earlier debacles of Windows ME and Windows Vista, largely because the world of computing was a little smaller back then and because tablets, smartphones and other fondleslabs had not yet made serious inroads into our mindshare"
Pretty much right. Windows ME was colorful and a short bridge before XP... it was garbage, unreliable. I still have my ME disc. :) It lasted 1 week before I reinstalled Win98se. (Why didn't MS call it Win99? Or OSR2 as Win97?) So many retailers simply sold Win98se systems until XP was released.
With Vista, it sucked - and some companies sold WinXP systems. Win7 was fast-tracked and released 2 years later. But back then, when it came to ALL computers - Microsoft controlled the market. Vista was functionally usable, it was just unstable memory-sucking garbage.
But Vista came out 6 months before the first iPhone. And a few years before the iPad. Blackberry had its niche market - but it always was an unstable and troublesome device for most people to bother using. When the iPhone 3G came out, people started dumping their BB.
With FAR more Android and iOS devices selling over MicrosoftOS in the past few years - MS fracked up big time with Win8. Most humans don't LIKE computers... not the way geeks do. They want to get to facebook, send emails and look at porn... any $50 phone can do that.
For PC makers... why pay the $35 OS tax to MS? or for us end-users or small PC business, pay $100~150 per WindowsOS lic? When Linux is free or buy an Android device.
Re: Here's Microsoft's problem
As Microsoft said publicly after the release of the first iPhone and later the iPad... they were just fads.
The smart phone and tablet are eating the traditional PCs. Remember when the Netbooks were becoming a poplar craze... that was a FAD! I mean, they had 10" screens, dinky little keyboards, decent battery and were fine as net-based consumer device... but they simply SUCKED compared to a tablet... which was thinner and lighter.
Can Microsoft save itself?
I really don't see what they can do? Sure, they won't just up and die. As we see today, pretty much ALL major PC brands are selling Android and or chrome hardware as well.
Only thing that MS makes a profit on is Windows and Office. Xbox1 is getting its ass kicked by the PS4 (I will never buy ANY xbox - period). The phone company they bought, is also selling Android Phones for some odd-reason, so they only have about 1~2% of that market. Surface is too expensive for what it does and the RT is plain useless. They burn their developers again since we KNOW that RT is canceled as WP will simply gain tablet screen functions (Why they made RT to begin with was stupid).
WHAT can MS do? I think their best best is to Make Windows9 fix all the crap that Win8 came with. Hold on to the business sector clients... but even that is a shrinking market. There is simply nothing that MS can do on the mobile end that isn't already being done by Apple or Android. None of the PC companies can survive in the just the Windows market.
Other than some old games and a few programs... there is simply not many reasons to keep paying $150 for an OS that has a 16Key activation crap to deal with... Installing Linux last year was a breeze... and it MADE sense as a desktop OS in functionality. No activation, no keys and a much better price.
Re: Madness? This. Is. STATISTICS!
*sigh* Hence, someone like Vociferous would be popular in Microsoft and be confused to why they are failing. For 2013, MAC sales dropped by about 14%, meanwhile Windows sales dropped by 30~40% (I don't know the latest figures) since the introduction of Win8. Had Windows 7 continued to be sold or Win8 worked & looked like Windows 7 (which I and most others would have been happy with) - then PC sales might have dropped by 14~15%. But as we know for a FACT, that after the release of Windows 8.1, Windows 7 market-share INCREASED! I and others *WARNED* Microsoft publicly that Win8 will HURT PC sales and IT DID. "We Listened, and fixed everything in Windows 8.1" - blah, they did nothing... oh, yeah, its *IS* a good improvement to make a hidden single pixel in a corner into a normal size button, but that's about it. This causes people in the field to not HAVE confidence in Microsoft's ability to produce and ship a usable product. In case you haven't noticed - many suits, including Monkey Man Ballmer are gone.
If Bill Gates was dead, he'd be rolling in his grave... man, it would be hilarious if they made some new "I'm MAC, I'm a PC" TV Ads. So, lets get back to numbers.
Does Microsoft still own about 93% of the PC market? Yes. But with ChromeOS, a noticeable dent has started. 270 million is healthy? Many years ago, 350+ million was typical. As we see, PC companies are dropping like flies. Dell is not stable, HP almost threw in the PC towel, ACER - which bought up Gateway, e-Machines and others is suddenly struggling. Hmmmm.
Now, lets look at why Windows is a dying platform... No, it won't die completely. Hey, there are people still using Amigas today! But it will become nothing much more than a corporate application launcher for legacy software. You see, Micorsoft and Windows has never been a company or product that people LOVED... its just a tool we use to make a living.
And as someone had posted, for many in the industrial/corp sector - the workers barely know what they are on. They don't interface with the OS, just the hand full of programs they are ALLOWED to use.
So why is 270 weak? Apple sold that many in iPhones and iPads in 2013 and Samsung sold about 500m phones in 2013. So out of about 2 Trillion devices sold in 2013, only 270m was microsoft...
Now, that WOULDN'T matter if these NON-Windows devices were accessories. Think of the OLD PDAs like Palm or the dumb cell phones that only worked like a phone (not even a camera). No problem.
The issue is that PEOPLE, real customers are using these as desktop replacements! And as more companies realize this, the more dangerous it is to Microsoft. So yes, Windows OS is going to collapse. I have several Windows 7 PCs, a Linux notebook (because Win8 made me start learning Linux) and I gave my wife a notebook. You know what she uses for 95% of her computer time? An Android Cell phone with a 4.5" display. The Notebook is for work and its running Linux.
Many of my clients have NOT upgraded their notebooks... instead they are buying iPads, iPhones and Android devices. I do more reading of The Reg on my Android phone than my desktop.
Microsoft themselves have damaged PC gaming... look at all the XBoX games that are NOT available for PC. Halo 3? Gears of War 2~3, etc? Why should I SUPPORT them? So the PS4 will be my new gaming platform. My intel i5-3570 will become my legacy Windows7 Media PC hooked up to my PC. My future WORK computer will be a small box running Linux.
So yeah... Microsoft OS is less than 24% marketshare... and that is a problem. One of my projects is a custom APP. We're making it ONLY for iOS and Android... PERIOD.
As you say: ""Microsoft is dominant in one class of computing device, but not in two other, different, classes of computing devices." - And if that class of devices is replaced by another - then it doesn't matter. Hey, remember when Toshiba dominated HD-DVD players? Compared to 15+ companies making blu-ray? Remember when Cassettes were in all cars? Then replaced by CD players... which are now replaced by MP3 players/inputs.
Why do you THINK that MS spent so much effort making Surface/RT and buying up Nokia? Because WindowsRT failed, Windows tablets are not selling and other than Nokia, nobody is buying their Phone OS. The only thing that makes MS money is Windows and office... and Windows is used as a launcher. If/when MS-Office, Adobe and Intuit software was made for Linux - who'd buy Windows? Everything else MS does, loses money... only being supported by Windows...
I and other do NOT see how MS will change this... Metro did look promising, it looked like it would make sense. But in reality, they failed and people no longer care.
Freer and good place to live? If youre gay, you get arrested and beaten up. Can't talk about human Rights. (Pussy riot or homosexual) spy cams in hotel rooms, people opposite of the dictator Putin are attested... Crimea? While mostly Russian speaking, a small fraction of Crimea repesentives remained as most of the rest were thrown or arrested. It would be the same as if the teaparty nuts ejected everyone one else here in the USA. Russia has also invaded other parts of the country... So Putin is already a liar... Surprise. This is the awesome Russia you are talking about?
The USA has issues. It needs more freedom... But is nowhere near as bad as Russia.
Snowden is an idiot... Living under the eye of the KGB is better? Russia is freedom?
Re: Reformed Luddite
Funny, I find 8 to be the opposite. All metro apps are bulky on a 24" display. I'm using some metro-ized web apps that is a bit of a pain to use. A bit pretty, but a whole screen of my files requires more scrolling than the "old tired" window that took up 1/4 the space. So I always have to scroll and look for my stuff that used to fit and not bloody move... Working in metro is unproductive. Not for a desktop. And the desktop mode is 1980s ugly. Linux should be the future.
Only thing that keeps me from going to Linux full time is the lack of intuit software and Photoshop. Kings office or open office are quite good for the price.
Windows PC has no future. MSb knows this. Hence they made it worse by panicking into making win8 into the turd it is. Rip out metro, put back the win 8 preview skin (it's slick) and they will make many people happy... In the work market. For home /casual use, Android and iOS .
I typed this whole thing from my android moto X phone... I have a PC 20 ft away...
Re: El Reg, Tech site?
Win 8 is no faster than 7. Sure it boots faster with hybrid boot, but Linux boots just as fast with a normal boot. If you mean the ui... I guess, since it mono chrome and ugly as skin job, throw back to the 80s... Point remains why the hell should I and others spend time and money on an ugly os to make it work like windows 7??! Especialy since win7 will do everything that is needed. Win 8 is such crap that I wouldn't install a free version... Ever. I installed Linux mint on one of my notebooks because of w8... Formatted and installed on top of 8 in fact. Linux was easier to use and just as slick as w8 and for a much better price. It has nothing to do with win 8 being hard to use.... Its because it's shit.
Re: Maybe I'm missing something here...
What? Today's techs have gone stupid? I understand that for typical people it maybe hard to deal with more than one thing at ba time... But geez. I guess it is todays iPhone generation that cannot coup.
Howdy from Texas USA (no, not all of us wear boots and make love to a bottle of Maple Syrup) where we have the Moto Maker (The phones are assembled & shipped out of Texas so I got mine in 3 days). I went with the Turquoise rear body, orange-chrome buttons & camera ring with a black front... it LOOKS GREAT. In many of our local stores, they have a sales setup that allows you to see ALL the colors and feel the textures available. Some colors like Black and Red have a rubber feel. Most have a smoother feel. Those with a pattern have an older Moto texture feel (shown in this review).
Why I choose this phone, when my previous Motorola has such a poor camera? Size & feel. Its 4.7" screen in a body that is smaller than my previous 4.5" phone. Most of the other phones are simply huge and getting bigger, harder to fit in my pocket. My Moto X is barely bigger than my OLD Samsung Galaxy S1 with a 4" screen. I don't use protective cases because I don't destroy my phones, I want them small as possible and whats the point of a nice looking phone that you can't see or touch? I cannot stand the feel of the cheap plastic glossy backs on Samsungs and LG. But as we see, newer Samsung and LGs are coming out with NEW phones with a nicer feel. I considered the HTC One, but the beautiful metal body is generally cold, but on another personal level, I can't stand having the power button on the top. HTC still takes the best photos of any Android phone. LGs have moved the power/VOL to the back, I simply don't like it. My wife is okay with it and may get one soon.
The camera is the weakest feature on the phone... best from Motorola, but it doesn't compare to Nokia 900/1000 Lumias and is lower-middle range compared to Samsung S4/LG2/HTC One. But its FLICK to Camera mode does WORK better than I thought it would and it CAN be turned off. There is almost NO options for the camera. Other than FLASH / HDR / Slo-mo / Shutter sound. Its UI is super simple. Camera defaults to STILL mode... pressing the Video Camera = REC video mode. Press STOP, and it reverts to Camera mode... which MAKES great sense. Pressing anywhere on the screen = Focus & shoot. The Moto-X camera doesn't include styled shots (B&W / Exposure / etc) *BUT* those features are part of the gallery instead.
I do with the Moto X had a removable back like the G so that I could replace or change out the backs when I want to. The G's back covers sells for $15USD. In the USA for the Moto X, they *JUST* came out with 9 new back covers and 3 new accent colors. ARGH! 4000 possible combinations! 31 rear colors / styles. I like that I DO NOT have the basic black phone, my phone will stick out more when I lay it down.
PS: I named the back of my Phone "AMIGA"
PS: Thanks Register for making these articles on ANCIENT computer technology... most of today's computer users - especially those who grew up on iPhones don't know how GREAT they have it today.
Lets compare my Motorola phone that I paid $100USD for. It has a 1.4Ghz dual-core CPU, 8GB internal RAM (16 add-on card). 1280x720 resolution on a 4.5" display. Its a PHONE, its a camera, its an HD camcorder, it has GPS, a flashlight, can get onto the internet... without wires.
Then, lets go back to 1992 Amiga technology: The Amiga 3000 25mhz (which I own). Its price was $1500USD ($2500 in 1990). It has a 25mhz single core CPU, a 50MB HD and 5MB of RAM (not GB). Its display output (with a $400 SVGA Monitor) at best, could do 720x480x16 colors (AmigaOS 3.0). The computer *DID NOT* include a DVD-drive or any optical drive. NO modem, NO cameras. You got the computer, HD, Floppy drive and a keyboard.
Go to 1986 and you have the $1200 Amiga 1000 which came with 256K / floppy drive and a keyboard... HD, memory, additional floppy drives were external.... its still a sexy little computer.
What an amazing thing made for so cheap... it never really competed against the C= 64/128 thou. But for the price, you did get a lot.
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