Posts by Local G

Re: And I pity you as you are obviously bereft of any sense of humor.

Did you really believe me about the adoption and the money?

The same way, I suppose, that you believed that Anna Ardin heard, saw and felt a condom break during the heavy thrusting of intercourse with Julie Baby, her legs spread in a darkened room and howling like women do when they're not faking an orgasm. She probably grew a pair of tactile labia in her school days.

Why don't you bloviate on that for a while?

Re: "I pity your family for being stuck with you."

Hey, Matt, I just learned. that you're still living with your parents so forget about that adoption thingy.

This may be apocryphal, but the word is your dad still wears a powder blue leisure suit. Unless you're the one wearing it.

That's an interesting thought.

Even more interesting to behold.

"I pity your family for being stuck with you."

I have no family, Matt. I'm an orphan of the Conservative Storm that swept the world in 1980. I was kinda hoping you'd adopt me. I think I could put up with your insanity.

Think about it. I have quite a sum of money in the funds.

Where's the benefit, Matt, in wallowing in your prejudice?

Excluding Anna Ardin's inconsistencies, there is a 50% chance Assange is being truthful. And if you include them, Assange's story is 99.9% accurate.

ANNA ARDIN IS NOT A LIAR JUST BECAUSE YOU SAY SHE ISN'T.

Assange is not the first innocent man to flee corrupt charges. And if he fled corrupt charges in Sweden, why would he let an English court send him back there?

WAKE UP.

"" an attempt to avoid the justice he sang long and loud about wanting so badly.""

When was that? The last act of 'Fidelio'?

Once your heroines told their perjured tales, everything Assange in your litany was a consequence of the previous event. So there were only two events, Matt, the lies of Anna and Sofia and the flight of Assange. Anna Ardin's lies put Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy.

"" so she cannot be proven a liar whilst he doesn't! ""

Nor can she be PROVEN a truth teller. It's a draw, Dude, with no penalty shoot out.

"" so he will ALWAYS be a rapist in the minds of the public.""

And Matt Bryant will always be biased in the minds of the readers here. Desperately "holding an adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.' (occasionally exhibiting flashes of humanity, but for very long.)

The rape, the extradition, the trial, the bail jump, the asylum, are nothing if Anna Ardin is a liar

And she's a BIG LIAR. And you cant' get her back into the box where you keep all the government liars whose words you take as the indisputable truth. Pity you are now stuck with her inconsistencies and falsehoods.

"Your stupid apologist response then goes off on the Anna Ardin attack frenzy I mentioned earlier in some automatic re-bleating of the same crud the rest of the Faithful have been bleating since A$$nut got questioned by the Swedes."

What blather is this? The Swedish rape charges are as much about Anna Ardin as they are about Assange' denials.

Please tell us again why she is an unimpeachable complainant and not why Assange is a rapist.

Re: I'm not surprised you're such an expert witness on false and phony claims without pix and links

First, You are correct about Assange's youthful indiscretion. It was no more serious than Prince Harry waving the Royal Willy on the front page of every tabloid, But Assange was convicted of hacking and paid the price. While Prince Harry was sent to Afghanistan to kill a Taliban fighter which redeemed himself in the eyes of the public..

Second, "what A$$nut is accused of in the EAW would be considered rape under English Law,"

Yes indeed, if those accusations are true and not suborned perjury. I didn't know that English Law was the gold standard of justice. If your country's laws are the same as English Law, then they're awesome too.

"In the case of Ardin it is clear that she has thrown a party in Assange’s honour at her flat after the “crime” and tweeted to her followers that she is with the “the world’s coolest smartest people, it’s amazing!”. Go on the internet and see for yourself. That Ardin has sought unsuccessfully to delete these exculpatory tweets from the public record should be a matter of grave concern. That she has published on the internet a guide on how to get revenge on cheating boyfriends ever graver. The exact content of Wilén’s mobile phone texts is not yet known but their bragging and exculpatory character has been confirmed by Swedish prosecutors. Neither Wilén’s nor Ardin’s texts complain of rape.

Small world, isn’t it? Julian Assange is the human face of Wikileaks – the organization that’s enabled whistle-blowers to reveal hideous war crimes and expose much of America’s foreign policy to the world.

He just happens to meet a Swedish woman who just happens to have been publishing her work in a well-funded anti-Castro group that just happens to have links with a group led by a man at least one journalist describes as an agent of the CIA: the violent secret arm of America’s foreign policy.

And she just happens to have been expelled from Cuba, which just happens to be the global symbol of successful defiance of American foreign policy.

And – despite her work in Sweden upholding the human right of gender equity – in Cuba she just happens to end up associating with a group openly supported by an admitted CIA agent who himself committed mass murder when he actively participated in the terrorist bombing of a jetliner carrying a Cuban sports team…an act that was of a piece with America’s secret foreign policy of violent attacks against Cuban state interests.

And now she just happens – after admittedly consensual sex – to have gone to Swedish authorities to report the sex ended without a condom…which just happens to be the pretext for Interpol to issue a “Red Notice” informing the world’s police forces of charges against Julian Assange.

Who just happens to be the man America’s political class – the people who run America’s foreign policy – have been trying to silence. And who happens to be the man some of them have been calling to have murdered.

With a lust for vengeance like that, one could be forgiven for concluding they’ve just happened to have taken a page from Anna’s revenge manual."

http://my.firedoglake.com/kirkmurphy/2010/12/04/assanges-chief-accuser-has-her-own-history-with-us-funded-anti-castro-groups-one-of-which-has-cia-ties/

Third,"A$$nut is now a criminal under English Law for contempt of court (from jumping bail)." If Raoul Wallenberg had been arrested by the Hungarian fascists to be extradited to Berlin and jumped bail, you would have been jumping from table to table at Starbucks (the 1944 version)

I'm not surprised you're such an expert witness on false and phony claims without pix and links

Did you get your expertise from observing others or did it just come naturally?

"Pretend you're happy when you're blue. It isn't very hard to do."

6/19/2012 Julian Assange jumps bail and seeks asylum in the Ecuadorian Embassy.

8/18/2012 The New York Times reports: "At the embassy, television cameras stand arrayed behind crowd-control fencing, with satellite trucks alongside. Protesters from the Assange camp occupy the doorsteps of some of the most expensive homes in the upscale Knightsbridge district, smoking cigarettes and discussing the finer points of diplomatic law."

1/03/2013 Perthnow.com.au reports "During Mr Assange's recent "Christmas message" steel barriers were used to hold back a crowd of hundreds who came to hear the 41-year-old speak"

That was a couple of months ago. Then London's 100 year winter took its toll.

Wrong again. Actually, you're getting to be wrong quite often. Have you changed your diet? Or stopped jogging? Well, so much for your unworthy exaggerations.

Thank you for being solicitous about my mental health but like most people with felix nervosa, you ought to have a care for your own weird symptoms of laughing at things called Assnuts and sheeple. Better check yourself in for observation.

Re: AC Your moral outrage that someone might agree with the sentiment?

I agree with you that it is very unlikely that Assange will ever get to claim diplomatic immunity. But if Assange wins the right to stand for the Senate seat, and -- OMG -- if he wins the election while besieged in Knightsbridge, will you be able to handle the never-ending tsunami of print, tv and net news stories about this vile sexfiend? And what of the legions of banner men that soon will flock to his camp?

You could be a mess, Matt.

I can let you have a couple of month's worth of Valium, as I am currently swimming in them. :o)

I SWEAR TO GOD

In the Urban Dictionary,

The second definition of the word 'idiot' (check it out)

"2) idiot

A foolish or stupid person.

'Matt is the Village Idiot'"

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By the way, your defense of Anna Ardin was less than zero.

I don't expect you'll ever understand that.

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Matt, I hate to be rude, but if you can't answer these questions, please STFU.

1) Why didn't Anna warn Sofia that Julian had raped her?

2) Why did Anna celebrate Julian's company after he raped her, with a crayfish party and by tweeting complementary remarks about him to her friends? Letting Assange stay in her flat for a week after he plundered her privates?

3) When Sofia Wilen went to the police to get Julian to take a HIV test, why did Anna go along only for support and not to make a similar demand? Does she have HIV and would have tested poz?

4) Was Anna Ardin a mole? No one cares if she worked for the CIA, KGB, Mossad, or FCO, as long as SHE WAS AN AGENT WORKING FOR SOME NEFARIOUS AGENCY.

Spare us all your subterfuge, your switching of subjects, your straw men, your ducking of questions. Your ad hominem cuteness.

Answer these questions or point to where you already have answered them exactly as I asked them, or kindly STFU.

If you don't answer them, I laugh in your pathetic face.

Re: If you don't have another witness, you may sit down, Mr. Bryant.

If no witnesses have been called, you are the silly one for behaving as if Anna Ardin is no less than Caesar's wife. And holding up her interview as a little more than apostolic.

The two "were viewed as valued members of the local Leftie community." Aw, c'mon Matt, when a mole infiltrates a group -- you do agree that moles infiltrate groups? -- don't they want to be viewed as valued members? I doubt that Sofia Willen was anything more than a groupie/dingbat.

"Why The Best Spies in Mossad And The CIA Are Women."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/crossingborders/2012/09/30/why-the-best-spies-in-mossad-and-the-cia-are-women/

"Why I am Convinced that Anna Ardin is a Liar" by Craig Murray September 11, 2012 1:05 p

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2012/09/why-i-am-convinced-that-anna-ardin-is-a-liar/

Do you know him? He was the UK's ambassador to Uzbekistan early last decade. You probably hate him. No matter.

If you don't have another witness, you may sit down, Mr. Bryant.

We have not established that the two Swedish putanas' version of what happened is the truth. Mr Assange's flight doesn't undermine his story or confirm the story of the women.

Call your next witness, or sit down.

Re: "Now cracks a noble skull"

MB "right up to the point where A$$nut admitted to the Swedish authorities in preliminary questioning that he had indeed had nonconsensual sex."

LG "Can you provide that citation?"

MB Blah, Blah Blah"That's his own lawyer admitting to the "sex by surprise" accusation during the extradition appeal hearing."

Apparently, Matt, You did not read the Court's discussion of midnight boners in narrow beds.

"3:50pm: Emmerson goes into detail about Assange's sharing a single bed with a woman – to laughter in the court.

3.58pm: The question is did she consent to his getting an erection, says Emmerson, Assange's barrister.

"The question is what he does with it," says Mr Justice Ouseley."

Ben Emmerson, Assange's barrister, says the idea of isolating a moment of lack of consent in an encounter that was consenting both before and after "is crazy".

Finally, Matt, I don't think a defendant's lawyer can make an admission for that defendant without that defendant's approval.

I have a copy of the preliminary questioning. If you'd like to cite that interview and not the Guardian's reporti of the extradition hearing in a London court, I can wait until you find it. :O)

"Now cracks a noble skull"

@ Matt Bryant Tuesday 23 April 8:20 GMT

" A$$nut admitted to the Swedish authorities in preliminary questioning that he had indeed had nonconsensual sex because he did not understand local laws."

@ Local G Tuesday 23 April 20:31

""admitted to the Swedish authorities in preliminary questioning that he had indeed had nonconsensual sex" Really? Can you provide that citation?"

"The rest is silence"

THE UNIVERSITY OF REAL LIFE

Dear Mr Bryant

We regret to inform you that you have failed Honey Trap 101. You will be permitted to retake the course or have a failure on your permanent record.

"admitted to the Swedish authorities in preliminary questioning that he had indeed had nonconsensual sex" Really? Can you provide that citation?

We know that Assange's departure from Sweden was at the advice of his.lawyer, which is what we pay lawyer's for. If he hadn't listened to his lawyer's advice, he'd be in a cold cell in the US with the lights on 24/7. Flight proves nothing about the rape allegations. Nor does the fact he sought asylum in the Eucadorian Emabassy.

This from the 'so called' preliminary interviews by the Stockholm Police. translated into English.

ASSANGE & SWEDEN • POLICE INTERVIEW PROTOCOLS

Anna Ardin

Date: 21 August 2010

Interviewing officer: Sara Wennerblom

Type of interview: Per telephone; not recorded

Type of protocol: Summary by interviewing officer

"According to Anna, “everything went so fast”. He tore off her clothes and in the

process pulled at and broke her necklace. Anna tried to put some clothes back on,

because it all went so fast and she felt uncomfortable; but Assange immediately took

them off again. Anna states that in fact she felt that she no longer wanted to go any

further, but that it was too late to tell Assange to stop, as she had “gone along this far”.

She thought she “had only herself to blame”. She therefore allowed Assange to remove

all of her clothes.

Then they lay down on the bed, Anna on her back and Assange on top of her. Anna

sensed that Assange wanted to insert his penis in her vagina right away, which she did

not want because he was not wearing a condom. She therefore tried to twist her hips to

the side and squeeze her legs together in order to prevent penetration. Anna tried

several times to reach for a condom, but Assange stopped her from doing so by

holding her arms and prying open her legs while trying to penetrate her with his penis

without a condom. Anna says that eventually she was on the verge of tears because she

was held fast and could not get a condom, and felt that ‘this can end badly’.

"Anna states that in fact she felt that she no longer wanted to go any

further, but that it was too late to tell Assange to stop, as she had “gone along this far”.

She thought she “had only herself to blame”. She therefore allowed Assange to remove

all of her clothes."

To my question Anna replies that Assange must have known that Anna was trying to reach

for a condom, and that he therefore held her arms to prevent her from doing so." (related in the third person)

Donald Boström

Date: 20 September 2010

Interviewing officer: Mats Gehlin

Also present:Police officer Ewa Olofsson as witness

Type of interview: In person; audio-recorded

Type of protocol: Verbatim transcript (slightly edited in this translation)

MG: So, how and when did this come…. That is, when she called and told you this….

that things had happened with this Sofia.… And that you, even then, she told you what

was true and that.… What was your impression of her when she related what she said

she had experienced?

DB: My impression was that — partly, I was of course bewildered that suddenly it is a

completely different picture…. But then I believe that my impression was that she was

credible, and there was a little of this — one is inclined to believe a woman who has

been mistreated. It is like that, in some way; it is sort of…. So that was my immediate

impression.…

But at the same time, I began to think: How can it be possible? For, if they are

having sex, consensual according to her, and something happens that she experiences

as an assault, how can she nevertheless gladly arrange a crayfish party, let him remain

in her flat, share a bed and so forth? I felt that there is something here that does not add

up. So I had the feeling that she was a credible person, yet there was something about

her story that did not add up......And although it may seem conspiratorial, there have been many episodes

throughout history where a girl with a short skirt has been sent in. There was a case not

so long ago in Russia…. And we talked about just that case. We also talked about

Vanunu, the Israeli scientist who revealed Israel’s possession of nuclear weapons. That

was the same thing: They sent a girl to his hotel room, and that was that. Then they

could transport him to Israel and so on."

Matt, all of this, plus much, much more, can be found here, http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/docs/protocol.pdf

The link to the the police interviews with the principal parties, friends and relatives.

I don't really recommend that you read this as the truth seems to irritate your convoluted view of reality. It just can't be your blinding hatred of Assange, that's causing you to defend these perjuring harridans, so I ask with the greatest respect: if you are still a virgin? Do you think defending Anna and Sofia will help you finally... well, you know what?

(Note that Anna Ardin's and Sofia Wilen's testimony are summaries narrated by the police interviewer and not recorded, while Julian Assange's and others were recorded.)

POOH!

"Little chance of it going to court and being exposed for little more than whimsical tattletales"

There are only three witnesses to the alleged crimes. No one has testified to any three-way behavior, so the two Honeys never witnessed Assange boning the other one sans condom. The Crown's whole case depends on the court's acceptance of the argument that Assange's crimes are proved by the supposedly similar sexual activity of Assange and the corroborating evidence given by the two Honey Trap Girls. That it demonstrates Assange's prior and similar behavior. Behavior, by the way, only seen in The Land Of The Midnight Honey Trap. And all this after Wikileaks dropped its digital bomb.

All the interviews have been taken. There are no secret witnesses to testify behind screens in court. There has been no mention of a telepathist who ha s been communicating with the venereal lesions of any or all of the three fuck buddies. The cockroaches have greedily devoured all the crusty jizzum. Nothing to see here.

Your pretense, Sir, is that some Solomonic judicial thingy will evolve from Assange surrendering to Swedish police --- OTHER THAN HE WILL THEN BE IN JAIL. And once there, the US will then declare its deceitful hand. Though he may not be judicially extradited to the US, Assange , as the Swedish Supreme Court Justice recently announced in Adelaide, Australia, HE CAN BE EXTRA JUDICIALLY EXTRADITED TO AMERICA.

Then, Sir, you will finally be happy and can cease your daily self-flagellation on your now tender and bloody back.

(All your down votes are like chocolate chips to me. I prize them. "Please, Sir, I want some more.") :o)

Re: Local Dupe "on the balance of the above alone - who are you prepared to believe?"

Has tipsy little Sweden contorted its head up its arse in the Assange case to make amends for its Naziness in World War II? Probably.

"Narvik-based journalist Espen Eidum spent three years sifting through Norwegian, Swedish and German archives to discover how the Nazis had managed to get troops and supplies to the front lines in Narvik in 1940, enabling them to turn a losing battle into a decisive victory that led to the conquest and brutal occupation of the whole country.

Sweden, although neutral, had in fact gone out of its way to aid the Germans, who would rely on the country for much of its iron ore during the war."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154901/Neutral-Sweden-allowed-Nazis-use-railways-occupy-Norway--transfer-Jews-death-camps-new-book-claims.html.

"The Dickileaks groupies have been sprouting male bovine manure (along with threats and childish squeals of outrage) since before the two women in question were even identified." And the Patriots du Jour have been threatening Assange since before he even arrived in Sweden. They cancel each other out.

You don't assume that Sweden is silly enough to allow hearsay evidence in its courts? Or that judges can not decide what evidence is permitted and what is not? Or that the laws against suborned perjury are just as harsh as using a condom with a picture of Don Juan on i?.

Re: "De Tangleska Webska"

You wont get an argument from me that Assange jumped bail in England's green and pleasant land. And did those feet scamper into the cramped Ecuadorean Embassy? I'll testify to it.

But those actions are completely and totally irrelevant to the rape case that he was set up for in screwed up Sweden.

And what, counsel, are the blundering Swedish authorities going to investigate? Everything pertinent to determining the truth is colder than an eskimo's arse. All that exists are the police interviews that were given shortly after the girls invented their stories. All three of the principals can rehearse them as well as an Archbishop does before the coronation of a monarch. If you really think evidence is going to be discovered if and when Assange is apprehended or turns himself in, I'll give you a job washing windows in my house, because soon you obviously are going to need all the financial assistance you can get. :o)

(I'll bet you didn't even look at the Nordic News Network site)

"on the balance of the above alone - who are you prepared to believe?"

"From what we know so far..." From what you know so far. Fixed it for you.

"the stories of the girls seem to hold up more that Assange's version"

"ASSANGE & SWEDEN

Sequence of Events

Important events and developments relating to

the Swedish prosecutor’s case against Julian Assange

13 August 2010

Anna Ardin returns a day early to her Stockholm flat, which she has lent to Julian

Assange in connection with a seminar. He offers to find other lodgings, but she invites

him to stay. That night they engage in a lengthy session of consensual sex, during which

she utters not a word of objection or dissatisfaction.

14 August 2010

Assange is the principal speaker at the seminar; Anna Ardin plays a key supporting

role. Assange spends the afternoon with Sofia Wilén, during which they engage in

heavy petting and agree to meet again. That evening, Anna Ardin arranges a crayfish

party in Assange’s honour and expresses great delight at the company she is keeping.

Alternative lodgings are offered to Assange, but Ms. Ardin invites him to continue

residing at her flat.

15 August 2010

At a meeting on the future activities of WikiLeaks in Sweden, Anna Ardin serves as

Assange’s press secretary.

16 August 2010

Assange accompanies Sofia Wilén to her flat in the town of Enköping. He wears a

condom during several consensual acts of sexual intercourse. Then he penetrates her

once without a condom. She warns that he’d “better not have HIV” but lets him continue without objection. They part on apparently friendly terms and agree to meet again.

17-18 August 2010

Sofia Wilén becomes increasingly anxious about the risk of infection due to the one act

of unprotected intercourse with Assange, but is unable to contact him.

19 August 2010

Sofia Wilén phones Anna Ardin to seek assistance in contacting Assange. It is not clear

what they discussed with each other or with Assange. Ms. Ardin asks Assange to move

out of her flat, which he does the following morning.

20 August 2010

Accompanied by Anna Ardin, Sofia Wilén visits a Stockholm police station — by their

own account, for the limited purpose of obtaining assistance in compelling Assange to

take an HIV test. Ms. Wilén is interviewed by a police officer who is a friend and

political ally of Ms. Ardin.

On the basis of very little information, including what appears to be a decisive

utterance by Ms. Ardin, prosecutor #1 decides to arrest Assange in absentia on suspicion

of rape and other sex crimes. When Ms. Wilén is informed of that decision, she is unable

to continue the interview and leaves without approving the written account of it. News of

the warrant is leaked to a Swedish tabloid and, within hours, global media are full of

articles and headlines linking Assange’s name to the word “rape”.

If the girls' story holds up better than Assange's, perhaps you should get an athletic supporter instead of a bra.

Re: "De Tangleska Webska"

(sorry for the format. Copying pdf.)

"Odd behaviour for a sex-crime victim"

"Göran Rudling notes that there are discrepancies between what

Anna Ardin tells the police about her sexual encounter with

Assange, and what she tells her friends. Referring to the remark

overheard by Boström at Ms. Ardin’s crayfish party, Rudling poses

the question: “Would you say to someone who had assaulted you

that you felt ‘dumped’ afterwards?”14

There are many similar questions raised by Ms. Ardin’s behaviour,

which included the following:

• The day after the “assault”, Ms. Ardin co-operated in seeming

harmony with Assange at the Broderskapet seminar.

• After the seminar, she volunteered to arrange a crayfish party

for Assange.

• At that party, she said that it was quite all right for him to

continue living with her.

• She also Twittered to a friend that it was “just amazing” to

be sitting with “the world’s coolest, smartest people”.

• The next day, she volunteered to serve as Assange’s press

secretary at a meeting with the Pirate Party.

• It is not until the following Thursday, after she had spoken

with Sofia Wilén, that she chose to stop sleeping in the same

room with Assange.

• The next day, Friday, she told friends that Sofia Wilén had been

raped by Assange; but there is no mention of any such crime in

the interviews with Ms. Wilén and her friends.

• Shortly before or after the police interview, Mrs. Ardin attempted

to erase three Twitter messages which indicated that she

remained on friendly terms with Assange.

• She also asked the Pirate Party to remove her name from a press

release about the meeting at which she had volunteered to serve

as Assange’s press secretary.

• In the telephone interview with the police on August 21st, she

omitted all information tending to establish Assange’s innocence.

She said nothing about the crayfish party she arranged on his

behalf, nor about the Twitter messages, her voluntary role as

press secretary, her conversations with Donald Boström, etc."

" At no time did either woman tell Assange to stop or otherwise express disapproval of the sexual acts in which they participated."

" Both women told friends that their purpose in visiting the police was not to accuse Assange of any crime, but to seek assistance in compelling him to be tested for HIV."

"23 August. Police officer Irmeli Krans returns to work on Monday

morning, intending to proofread the protocol of her interview with

Sofia Wilén and correct any errors it might contain. But she discovers that she is denied access to the text file in the police computer system. “After an exchange of e-mails, I was ordered by lead

investigator Mats Gehlin to instead write and sign a new protocol

in the computer system, which was done on Thursday, August 26th

with necessary changes.”

The process of revision included the following curious exchange of

e-mails:

Irmeli Krans to Mats Gehlin

I hope that I have done it correctly now, and that the document

reaches you properly. Please acknowledge. As regards the

verbal report to the prosecutor [Maria H. Kjellstrand], I have

no information other than that it was done via telephone by

Linda Wassgren at some point during the interview (see

“Arrest warrant based on very little” on p. 14). What was said

is not known to me, as Wassgren does not wish to communicate with me. I had no opportunity to discuss the crime

classification with the prosecutor; rather, I was informed that

it would be classified as rape per the prosecutor’s directive.

Mats Gehlin to Irmeli Krans

Do this: Add [the changes] to your interview protocol and then

sign it. It would look odd if I were to sign it.

Irmeli Krans to Mats Gehlin

Yes, of course. But then there will be two interview protocols.

But only one formal interview has been conducted, at least by

me. Where will the other interview go to? If it is to be done

properly, I assume that I have to make the changes in the

original protocol and sign that. At the risk of appearing

troublesome, I do not want an unsigned document with my

name on it circulating in the computer system — especially

now that the case has developed as it has.

Mats Gehlin to Irmeli Krans

Write a new protocol. Add the changes and assign the protocol

to the case. And sign the protocol.

Irmeli Krans to Mats Gehlin

Perhaps I am a bit thick, but I don’t really understand what

you mean. [Our colleague] Anders Ringkvist is trying to help

me and, although we have rung you up, we have not been able

to resolve the problem.24

Exactly what changes were made to the original version is

potentially significant information that has yet to become publicly

available. Another intriguing question is why Linda Wassgren

refused to communicate with Irmeli Krans. It was officer Wassgren

who, together with Mats Gehlin, conveyed the few bits of information that led to the original arrest order."

This is but a miniscule amount of what these Swedidh investigators found,

if you want to read the other 95%, here's the link:

http://www.nnn.se/nordic/assange/protocol.htm

This will take you to many more links.

If you have anything out of Sweden to contradict this, I'll be glad to look at it.

Re: "The Rape of the Cock Sock"

"What dire offense from amorous rear entry springs,

What mighty contests rise from leaky latex things....

* * *

"Nobody, is that gullible to believe any of that" @ AC Sat. 9:52 GMT

Without hearing a word of testimony, (there have been no court proceedings), without reading any of the statements of Anna Ardin and Sofia Wilen (läser du svenska?), you have concluded that Anna and Sofia are telling the truth and Assange is not. And anyone who does not agree with you is 'gullible'.

You, Sir or Madam, appear to be at one with the Queen of Hearts:

"Now for the evidence," said the King, "and then the sentence."

"No!" said the Queen, "first the sentence, and then the evidence!"

"Nonsense!" cried Alice, so loudly that everybody jumped, "the idea of having the sentence first!"

"Hold your tongue!" said the Queen."

You probably were also at one with the recently departed 'Woman in the Iron Bouffant.'

Re: A$$ange hasn't a clue.

Assange bunked because the Honey Trap honey turned toxic and the prosecutor who declared there would be no charges was fired and a rape nazi took his place. In fact, he did have a clue. Had he not bolted Anna Ardin would have supped on his nipples, testicles and johnson, prepared a la Sverige and served flagrante delicto.

Re:Matt Bryant Manifests The Red Shift

Watch Matt Bryant whizz far, far away from where he was in less than 10 hours.

MB 4/10/13 13:10 GMT: "Please do explain what threat the Anonyputzs are to anyone other then themselves? What they have actually done other than mindless and minor Internet vandalism?"

MB 4/10/13 22:40 GMT: (Matt is asked: "Then why were they treated with such unsparing behavior and threatened with such outrageous sentences by the prosecutors?.....") Matt replies "Who says they are outrageous?"

Only the civilized world, Matt. (We know you consider them a scurvy lot.)

Maybe it's well that you're whizzing away. "Tomorrow to fresh galaxy clusters and pastures new." I'll bet you can meet some new sheeple to twitter. To tweet? To bleat?

Re: "Our only threat is the threat of more threats."

"What they have actually done other than mindless and minor Internet vandalism."

"What massive "threat" did Aaron Swartz provide other than the a bit of petty copyright theft?"

Then why were they treated with such unsparing behavior and threatened with such outrageous sentences by the prosecutors?

It seems to me that no one knows how deep the hacker's colonoscope eventually will go. And the government isn't bent over waiting to find out.

Re: Local Dupe Re Local Dupe Saturday 6 April 20:17 GMT

Fortunately, only you, me, and your recent friend Igor are reading this thread. And as for you winning the argument -- in a pigs eye!

Hackers are threats. Governments are afraid of threats. So they pass Draconian laws with unusually harsh penalties to discourage them. THE MORE AFRAID THEY ARE, THE BROADER THE LAWS AND THE HARSHER THE PUNISHMENT. D'OH.

What part of this is too complicated for your baby brain to understand?

Re Local Dupe Saturday 6 April 20:17 GMT

"If Congress enacts these stringent penalties, we will have new tech versions of the Sedition and Espionage Acts, both of which became laws when war threatened us. Now war threatens us again,"

So, did I know that "These are civil offences and civil punishments" or not?

Or maybe you were referring to Hiroshima and Lidice?

I'll google the Israeli bulldozing of Palestinian houses in the Occupied Territories owned by families with a member who has been determined a terrorist by the IDF to see if these are civil offences and punishments? Or military?

No one cares anyway. The Great Powers and their regional dupes, like Israel and North Korea, do whatever their overlords permit them to do, And they do it with impunity.

Re: Re:Local Dupe Matt Bryant "<Yawn> Melodrama, hyperbole"

"the idea of a sentence is to install fear in those criminals too stupid to otherwise be deterred."

I hoped you'd see, boychick, that I was I was referring to the fear of governments, their legislators, administrators and military. No such luck. From your perch high above the sixth cataract of denial, you saw what you wanted to see, and then read me Dr Johnson's definition of deterrent.

Does public punishment count as a deterrent? Were Hiroshima and Nagasaki deterrents to continuing the war another week? Or were they punishment? Is public punishment also a deterrent? Did Lidice tell potential assassins "Uh Oh. Better not"?

Did you think you were the Gustav Gun of The Register, pal? No, you're just a spitball and a straw. http://www.worldsbiggests.com/2010/02/gustav-gun-largest-gun-ever-built.html

Re: Matt Bryant "<Yawn> Melodrama, hyperbole"

Matt, you yawn at your own peril. You ought to stop.

And with respect, I'll stick with The Alien and Sedition Act, "passed in 1798 by the Federalists in the 5th United States Congress in the aftermath of the French Revolution and during an undeclared naval war with France, later known as the Quasi-War." and The Espionage Act "passed in June 1917, which provided penalties of 20 years imprisonment and fines up to $10,000 for those convicted of interfering with military recruitment.Congress responded to a growing fear that public criticism of the war effort would make it difficult to conscript the needed manpower for American participation."

Can you think of any undeclared wars today, Matt? Currency, Trade, Oil, Adopted Children? Is all hunky dory in the international relations portfolio of Matt's world?

"20 years imprisonment and fines up to $10,000." 20 years in the slammer was a lot more effective deterrent back in 1917 when the life expectancy of your average trouble maker was probably on the wrong side of 50.? And $10,000 then is close to a million dollars today.

The declared and undeclared wars then and now are different (and there were no computers back then), but the raison d'etre of all these laws remains the same. Fear.

Re: Local Dupe Local Dupe "My Bad"

How unkind of you, Matt, to say I am a hater of The Man.. If The Man is reading this, He knows I am a lover of The Man and provide Him with all the succor I can.

"Congress's plans to smack skiddies harder" is just an indication of the desperate straits the government finds itself in. If Congress enacts these stringent penalties, we will have new tech versions of the Sedition and Espionage Acts, both of which became laws when war threatened us. Now war threatens us again, with economic skirmishes and war games going in all quarters of the globe. And don't forget North Korea's nuclear gambit. While our Matt thinks: "Let Congress pass these harsh measures and let the courts sentence some 20 year old to 50 years in prison and then I can be off in my Spitfire. Off to Highlands for a fortmonth or three.

"Now what have I told you about that Napoleon complex of yours? Not everyone thinks they have the right to rule the World like you do."

I don't want to be Napoleon any more. I wanna be the Prince of Verona. You know, "Two households ALIKE in dignity" That would be your household and Julian's. And I'm the Prince.

And as far as ruling the World is concerned:

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It looks like you're doing a pretty thorough job.

Re: Local Dupe "My Bad"

I forgot how attached you are to your powder blue Triumph Spitfire. Even after you threw a rod in Brighton. What is it, a 73?

Re: "the sportscar for the fun down country roads or on track days.

Hmm. A 1960 Austin Healy Mark I w/removable hard top and two tone paint (red on top and black on the bottom?). Raise the bonnet and there's an immaculate perception. Not a speck of dust or spot of oil. You could eat off the cylinder head although Matt would probably frown on that. Everything of Matt's is just as perfect as his comments. He doesn't enjoy failing everybody. It's his bounden duty.

One day Matt is going to fail the whole wide world. But if you're nice to him, he might get you a good seat. :-)

Re: Matt " then the trading would have continued."

Only if housing prices continued to inflate. Once prices flatten and decline, the bubble is burst and here we are.