35 posts • joined 4 Sep 2012
Unfortunately this is one buzzword/phrase that just will not go away - it is not a panacea - especially not for big businesses and those handling anything but unregulated data.
If youre a big business and want genuine capacity on demand, flexibility and agilitydesign it into your infrastructure up front and make sure youve got a funding model that can deliver it.
Death threats - WTF?
Without belittling the lossess people have suffered, like other corporate investors who lose their money because of somebody elses cock up, you just have to take this on the chin.
Death threats etc is not how this works - it is business unfortunately.
Re: Kettle, met pot, pot meet kettle
Until large scale customers such as the public sector start heavily using (& therefore driving the improvement of) Open Source software such as the various Office Suite rivals, then it will lag a little behind the expensive proprietary stuff.
What the customers also need to realise is that to make a success of a move like this also requires investment in you internal IT capabilities & skills. A combination of those two can only be a good thing, leading to better quality Open Source software and er...'skillier' resources
You have removed the accountability from employees of 2e2 over their own career choices.
I worked for Compel at the time they got taken over by 2e2 - and it was evident at the time - that those in charge of 2e2 were just trying to make a quick buck and move on - which is typical of many businesses choosing the growth by acquisition route.
It was pretty obvious after seeing their presentation that it wasnt a viable long term career option and I found another job.
Re: your comments on funding, funding is all about investor confidence in the board's ability to deliver a return. It just took the city longer than some of us realise what they were dealing with and to pull the plug on it,
Heres a radical idea
Why dont government put some serious investment into building their own IT capabilities - that way they would avoid wasting vast anounts of cash purely for the purposes of lining the pockets of incompetent organisations like Capita who couldnt deliver a paper let alone a major IT infrastructure programme like this?
Outsourcing just does not work on this scale - and for one simple reason - the objectives of the 'client' doing the outsource are usually to save cost (but internally this gets marketed as 'leveraging the expertise' of the supplier, getting access to best of breed tech & process from a proven supplier, improve quality of service, shorten time to market blah blah blah), but the commercial objectives of the supplier are simply this:
To meet their contractual obligations at minimum cost.
Quite how any IT director in their right mind can equate the two and seriously believe that signing an outsource deal with one of the numerous IT services companies - pretty much all of who share an abysmal record of success - will lead to anything other than them getting their bonus cheque is beyond me....oh wait - i think ive just answered my own question....
Lets turn what could be a genuinely cheap (free mobile & dev toolkits etc) exercise into a massively bloated PR laden wankfest, in which (as usual) a handful of individuals then milk the public purse for vast sums of cash, deliver approximately 7 tenths of bugger all and then f**k off into the sunset leaving a trail of unfinished crap behind them.
.....which unfortunately is exactly what has also happened with every major Government IT initiative (Labour and ConDem) over the last 10 years or so.
When will the get somebody who can make the piss up and brewery finally collide in an orgy of drunkness.
Stop bloody funding these wankers - these are the very machines people really go there to see (aside from the human side of the story).
Either the organising board does this properly or they shouldnt do it at all.
I worked for them for 4 years on a number of high profile software & infrastructure projects that were all so obviously doomed to failure it was painful - i feel qualified to say that they just dont have any genuine experience or expertise in managing complex (or even simple) software projects so this isnt a suprise.
The bigger questino is for the MOD to answer - can they genuinely say that recruitment was going to cost them £1.3 billion over 10 years...if so that is outrageous.
If you outsource a problem - its still a problem. Businesses need to learn to fix their issues before they hand them over to somebody else...
Prepare for consumer inflation...probably
While I agree this sort of thing is pretty disgraceful, if Oracle lose and the results for them and every other corporation currently taking advantage of this sort of situation are obvious....increased labour costs.
The natural order of things in this unreasonably short term capitalist world we live in, is that this will squeeze bottom lines and if the fat cats are to get their bonuses, the hedge funds need to be kept on side. This for you & me can only ever mean one thing....higher prices.
Those wankers in the city who spend their lives gambling away other peoples' money have a lot to answer for...but perhaps slighlty less than the spineless governments who consistently refuse to do anything about them.
Free speech vs cyber extortion?
...providing that the claims espoused on said website are factual this seems genuine enough - but i cant help thinking it smacks of just hunting a payout.
Am surprised - the libel laws being what they are in the UK - that this hasnt gone further...the High Court has a pretty appalling record of siding with the little guy in these cases, as any Provate Eye reader will know, so it may be just a matter of time.
This is madness
Perhaps there needs to be a time limit on patents in the IT industry?
Trevor Bayliss aside, companies should succeed or fail on the strength of their products - if Apple & co spent as much time & money innovating as they did in the courtroom then they wouldnt need to resort to these farcical playground tactics.
This guy is an attention seeking shitbag.
No surprise there then
...But having worked on a number of large scale projects deploying Larrys fully featured off the shelf software, I can personally vouch for the fact that (in my experience) their software can often require as much manpower to configure and make perform as it would have done to build the same business functionality from available open source resources.
That is multiplied when the implementation (and 'architecture') is outsourced to the usual incompetent major SI suspects, who wheel the A team in for the sales pitch and then dish the real work out to (usually) incomptent off shore resources who often ust dont have the nous or experience to know how to get the best out of the software theyre working with, as theyve just come off their Java certification course or whatever.
Providing you have adequately defined, business driven requirements, a PM & architects who are interested in delivering success rather than their own egos - major projects are most definitely deliverable using the wealth of (advanced) open source products that are out there.
Re: A can of worms..
He can stick his vaccum cleaner up his arse.
I cant understand why we fete his overpriced, underwhelming, foreign tat anymore. If he's had the courage of his convictions he would have retained their manufacturing operation in Blighty.
Shame on you, Dyson.
Re: The HP way..
Career progression has nothing to do with this - and in fact could be argued in some situations (i.e. public sector) is responsible for encouraging complacency (& resentment as well) among employees.
The most important thing is to get the right person in the right position - years of service may or may not influence their ability to do the job, but i'd argue in todays highly diverse marketplace, a range of experience in a number of organisations (& their respective cultures) - in addition to proven success - is a highly desirable attribute.
So when are they suing the Louvre...?
Whose entrance also comprises a suitably blingfested glass structure (albeit a pyramid) leading downstairs to a world famous landmark....? Surely this outrageous French luddites, with their so called 'works of art' should be treated with the contempt they deserve and forced to conform to the New World Order??
'The cult of celebrity' springs to mind....Mao, Deng Xao Ping, Stalin, Hitler, Caesar - any good old fashioned dictator, fascist or cult leader knows youve got to work on this and Jobs was certainly no different.
How come Bill Gates & Warren Buffet, donator of multiple billions of their own money to genuinely worthwhile projects, dont get a statue, whereas the guy that binned the apple charity fund 15 years ago but is somehow held up as an example of benevolence to us all, does.
Get a grip.
Re: @Chrisopher Rogers
The truly scandalous thing is how he was portayed in the media as some sort of saint by most of the dimwitted sheep who were seduced into believing the image of himself he cultivated.
Bill G might not have the charisma of Jobs but is 10 times the man.
if you dont like dirty secrets...
...dont be so naive as to take the type of job where youre probably going to encounter them.
Ive got absolutely no sympathy for these people - they are not whistleblowers - they are risking national security and delicate international relationships by divulging this sort of info. It is treason - pure and simple.
The unfortunate reality is that all major nations do this sort of thing and the best sort of defence is attack as far as this stuff goes...
The great irony of the show is that if the contestants were anywhere near as talented, driven and capable as they seem to think they are, they would be too busy building and running their own enterprises to take part in some pointless x-factor type sales contest, that quite honestly gives the workplace a bad name.
And theyd probably recognise that the much purported promised 'top job' probably doesnt really exist, neither does the mentoring and that working for one of the worlds jammiest, overrated and smugly self important 'businessmen' - might just be a complete waste of time....
Another excellent article dispelling the fanciful illusions that most people seem to have about their 'careers' and importance to their employers. Make no mistake, unless you as an individual have a direct influence on the share price of the organisation you work for, you really are just another number on the payroll.
Theres only one person in charge of your career development - you. If youre fool enough to leave it to somebody else to better you courtesy of a mythical training/development plan or a skills matrix and an annual review then prepare to be disappointed when you arent where you want to be in 5 years time.
Finally when quitting or thinking about changing jobs stay professional and dont jump because you think you have 'principles' - wrong - you almost certainly have a mortgage which a job can pay for. Principles dont pay the bills - jobs do - so learn to play the game.
Easiest business case in the world
The business case for this is a piece of piss - you spend £16 beellion building a railway that takes 30 minutes off the journey time between london and birmingham, or 1 hour off the lon - manc time but forget about the pisspoor reliability of the tube when you get there, that negates all the percieved benefits of having a quicker link in the first place....
Add to that rampant congestion on most road links servicing major train stations and its fairly obvious that its a waste of bloody money because the real end to end journey time has at least as much to do as getting onto and off the HS2 train as it does with HS2 itself. And as you cant effectively use a laptop while stuck in a traffic jam or searching for a fucking parking space so its pretty bloody obvious the stated economic benefits are seriously flawed....
Let the products do the talking...
Not the lawyers.
If Apple were truly an elightened, friendly organisation with a genuine desire to build innovative products which improved the quality of their users' lives, they would have the good grace to accept when theyve been bettered by their competitors, and would be spending their vast reserves of cash on R&D, not on lawyers.
As it is, the tidal wave of bad feeling generated by this un ending series of petty, tit-for-tat legal cases is already having a detrimental impact on their share price and popularity and goes to show that even they realise that they are no longer the benchmark...
Its pretty obvious the said acquisitions were all about board members securing massive & fairly immediate payouts and not actually about the long term strategy of the business.
Reminds me of the BAE/EADS shambles recently when the new CEO finally admitted it wasnt necessary but said something like it "seemed like a good opportunity....". For who you have to ask...
Re: Pure data for transactions
Whilst it looks cheaper empirically to do it yourself, as an experienced infra/DW architect who has been through this several times before I can tell you its rarely that straight forward.
Firstly, the H/W costs are the tip of the iceberg - the software costs are thos which really bump up the price. Ive only even seen one client pay list price, but generally you can wipe 30% off that for starters.
Secondly, having access to free open source software is one thing, having the skills & experience to build that into a tuned, fully integrated and manageable solution is another. Dont underestimate how difficult that is.
if we do it your way ive got one and a half tons of iron, silicon and cabling splashed all over the datacentre floor, with probably a 12 month wait to get something that actualy works - while my business splashes cash on resources, hosting etc & gets no benefit from it - potentially costing them millions of pounds in the process or.....
Re: What did I say...
Probably find a large proportion of this is for the fees of the administrators...
Ransom bu outsourcing
So 2e2 dont even own the assets they are hosting their clients services on!
IT Directors of the world - you have been warned. Mind you thats assuming that you genuinely have the strategic interests of your business at heart...and not just the desire to make your bonus at any cost and sod off elsewhere while watching the flames grow.
You could see this coming...
....about 5 years ago.
I used to work for one of the companies 2e2 bought out and left as soon as that deal completed - this was obvious from the start. No business that is as aggressively acquisitive as this over such a short time frame is genuinely in it for the long term - its about lining your pockets as quick as poss for the people at the top, and then buggering off when it all goes wrong.
How long until Capita follow suit i wonder, though the sheer volume of government contracts in their bag may stave off a total collapse ....
This from the guy that was once touted as the saviour of British Engineering and then quietly offshored his manufacturing to Malaysia or the far east somewhere if i remember correctly...
Now thats what I call sticking up for Britain.
Only half the story
The other half of course is that the top brass at HMRC are simply shafting the taxpayer by letting companies off the hook with criminally easy deals. I would like to see these people investigated and the full rationale behind these deals published - with legal proceedings for corruption following where there is sufficient evidence to support one.
Id be interested to understand the thining behind Shell & Vodafone deals for starters.
These people forget that they are there to serve the best interests of the public - not to develop opportunities for feathering their own nests once they leave these influential positions....
Poor mans GCHQ if you ask me. Self important knobs!
Outsourcing doesnt work....face it!
Having been through enough outsourcing bids & worked for some of the major players in the outsourcing arena it is plainly obvious that it doesn work. Far be it for me to cast aspersions but i would say the major drivers for outsourcing are short termism brought on by bonuses which are predicated on apparent savings rather than actual savings.
As others have stated outsourcing usually guarantees a business the following benefits...
- longer time to market & reduced business agility
- increased cost of project delivery
- reduced quality of service
- resistance to business critical change
- an aggreived user base
- an aggreived business end customer
- a happy IT director - probably driving an Aston Martin, with an up to date CV just so they can jump ship once the brown stuff acquires an uncomfortable proximity to the corporate fan
So if youre in charge of the IT purse strings at a financially pressurised, cost constrained business then its probably just the thing for you.
Free speech....when it suits
Religion = brainwashing...and Islam is better than the rest at that as its so dogmatic. These people have no perspective on reality. Im tired of hearing how the Koran promotes tolerance and peace - thats clearly bollocks. Weve seen enough evidence over the last 30 years to know that just isnt true anymore & its about time that the civilised nations of the world adopted an equally intolerant attitude towards religious fanatics...
This is beyond ridiculous - they just dont know when enough is enough do they?
They leave the competition little choice but to sink to their own gutter trash level and either counter-sue everything, or to make sure they sue Apple before Apple sues them wherever they feel they can.
Shame on you Apple.
the battle of 'good' vs evil
It always made me laugh (& fume) the way that Jobs was portrayed in most sections of the media as some sort of pseudo messiah, enlightening the masses and removing them from the quagmire of technological ignorance, whilst presiding benignly over his flock...
However there is a great deal of evidence to suggest he was actually a self centred, egotistical, wannabe rock star with little or no regard for his employees (summary executions in the lift etc) and a delusions of such grandeur that it seemed entirely appropriate that they should forbid any other organisation on the planet from benefitting from general innovations/trends in the industry in the way that his own organisation so obviously has over the last 20 years.
Now thats what I call buddhist principles in action!
The whole thing has the stench of a pathetic school playground incident where the classroom spoilt brat with the posh parents and all the best toys wont let anyone else play them.
Get a fucking grip apple - learn to accept that competition is a fact of life & it is ultimately what makes us all stronger in the end. Darwinism rules - or at least it should - unfortunately rules rule in the court though.
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