1603 posts • joined 26 Jun 2007
Re: Synology users Ok
Not strictly true - it does use bash, but only internally and for non-public (AKA user accessible) stuff so it's still worth patching (When they release it) in case a seperate vulnerability exposes bash subsequently.
So it's not a priority (there aren't any known exploitation vectors at this time) but you want to keep tabs on the updates.
Re: Symphony of complexity
But how does Nyan Cat sound through it?
Or the title theme from Super Metroid?
If he was at the stage where he was getting gold stars for his work, I'm not sure if that would be an appropriate insinuation to make....;-)
Re: What about Windows 9?
Or because DB8 is confusing to read.
Which seems more likely....
Re: My /bin/sh points to dash .....
The simple answer is Just Patch It Anyway -
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade bash
That way you're patched and it won't affect anything else.
As I mentioned elsewhere PATCH FUCKING EVERYTHING because if you don't know what on your system calls bash explicitly, and you don't know whether the package you have is exploitable, then you don't know if you're safe, period.
Remove it, or patch it, but don't just leave a package with a known remotely exploitable vulnerability sitting on the system - that's asking for trouble.
Re: "... we’re not building an incremental product"
I thought it was Windows 8 that was taking the P?
Re: "since most of them can't be patched"
I heard it from a chum who has the technical nouse, career history, and - frankly - geeky interests that make me look like a casual observer. He might be wrong but I'd be surprised!
Still, even if the BT Hubs aren't affected, I'm sure there are some embedded devices that are, and the point still stands that updating those will be a mighty pain in the arse.
Re: "since most of them can't be patched"
Can you compile the update of Bash for a BT Home Hub, or do you have to wait for BT to push out a full firmware update?
There's your answer, right there.
Re: Reanult has a problem, called 'marketing'
Pete, I really like the idea of one of those engines, mit tweeks, in my Puma.
Those engines ain't cheap though...
Re: Fiat 500?
"Not being rude, but how are you going to get a "sportier" engine in there?"
Dump the back seats, obviously - loads of room for a turbo the size of a monkeys head then.
See Renault 5 Turbo (not GT turbo) and Clio V6 for details.
Re: Fiat 500?
Renault have played with the idea of a hot version in the Block Racers video, and bear in mind the Clio V6 was a 'silly engineering concept' before someone accidentally made it a production vehicle, so while I don't have much hope, I have some.
Chances are it'll have overservo'd brakes, numb electric steering and ESP and ASC and all the other fun-killing TLAs, however, which would sort of negate the whole idea of having a farily powerful rear engine rear drive car with a short wheelbase for those of us who like a challenge, but can't quite afford either a 911, or enough modifications to make a Smart ForTwo spin it's tyres....
'Windows Vanden Plas'
Oh fuck yes! The imagery that brings up is just perfect! Have an upvote.
PS: You'd need to be aware of car history for that - Vanden Plas was a trim level used by British Leyland brands back in the day to make their cars appear more important/luxurious/fancy than they actually were, using things like chrome grilles, extra features (includes cabin heater!), quad headlights etc to cover the fact that their cars were plain fucking awful.
Do an image search for Austin Allegro, follow it up with a search for Allegro Vanden Plas, but don't drink coffee as the results load, you'll spit it out with no small degree of incredulity at the idea of an Allegro trying to look like a Rolls Royce.
" Microsoft Onelight."
Pfft. MIcrosoft NOtWorthALight.
And on the subject of Mobile First, Cloud first, how about Desktop First because, you know, that's where 80% of licenses will go, you moronic, dribbling cockslaps.
Re: MAGNA CARTA
It's quite astounding how many people bang on about freedom of speech, without realising what it actually entails.
Re: My own solution
...but then you have the inconvenience of feeding the sherpa.
I mean, you could just not feed the sherpa, but you'll find that it gets increasingly irritable, then stops your music collection being portable when it dies.
Could be a problem.
Must admit, I did an upgrade to 14.10 Beta 1 while I had a hoary mix of ATI proprietary graphics on it (which were a bit spotty anyway) and it broke, badly - as in I couldn't get the display manager to work at all, and had to do a clean install (after backing up my /home from the command line, natch - full userland, just no graphics - TTY1, hallo old friend...)
That said, the clean install has been spot on. But that's betas (and muchos fiddling) for you.
I've recently changed jobs to a linux support position though, so Debian is very tempting - I think I'll keep Ubuntu at home though, the proprietary stuff it takes in as a option, much as though it might piss the RMS/GNU/FLOSS people off, makes it a far better everyday proposition than straight deb (and whine all you want, if you're a techy user and aren't afraid of the CLI, Ubuntu is a good introduction to CLI stuff with a good DE to fall back to if required).
That, and I've really grown to like Unity, even enjoy it - I've tried LXDE, Awesome, XFCE, KDE and none of them really match up to Unity now that I'm familiar with it - despite the slagging it (deservedly) got initially, it's getting pretty damned mature now, and it really is a good little desktop environment. Unless you don't like unified search - in which case, you're pretty much gonna hate it, but then you're gonna hate most modern DEs.
But if you're on the fence and willing to have a play, fire up a VM/USB key with some persistance and give it a shot - it's well worth a look these days and is easily the equal of KDE or Gnome 3, and I prefer it to both.
Feel free to check my post history for defense/praise and slagging of Windows desktop and server, Mac OS and linux in general as reference - I'm not being particularly biased when I say Unity is definitely worth investing some time in, and I've taken enough OSs and DEs seriously enough to say that I like it...
Christ on a bike!
I only wanted to paraphrase the "I'm in great shape - round is a shape, right?" line, I wasn't being entirely serious. ;-)
Anyway, it's not the junk food that keeps me in 'great shape', it's the wholesale lack of excercise - once I get settled at the new job, I'm going to get the train in and walk 3/4 mile form/to the terminating station to the office.
Why not do it now? I'm in the 'training' period where I'm learning all the systems, so 9-5 is a must - and if I miss the first, 7am train, I'm guaranteed to be at least 45mins late (due to that 3/4 mile walk). Once I'm settled in, flexi time is an option so I could do 10-6 etc - or WFH in the morning, train in, train home in the afternoon. For now tho, driving is the key to being on time all the time. And draining my wallet - 80 miles a day at 30-ish mpg = expense. So less money for even cheap pizza, I suppose....
I used to walk a mile and a half to work (and back again!) when I worked up north - I could eat anything I wanted (even pizza) and stayed a stable shape (that wasn't so round) - I miss those days...I imagine being a youth helped too. I'm now a 30 something old giffer, I can't lose the weight like I used to. Not that I'm even remotely trying, of course. I have a reputation to maintain!
I'm surprised at the zero votes on the post though, you'd think starting a 30+ post discussion would earn me someone's ire, he says, tempting fate....
Steven "Bat Fastard" R
Flaw in the argument
Surely I should be paid more to keep me in good shape?
(round is a shape, right? And pizza is expensive!)
Steven 'Cuddly' R
Re: Old school hacking ...
apt-get install wife
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package wife
Steven "what do mean, this is why I'm single?" R
Re: Can you hear that sound?
"What about your router?"
Pretty sure Drayteks run Busybox (I don't allow remote access to my management page, only VPN so I can't check at the moment for reasons I'm too lazy to explain) but a colleague tells me that BT Home Hubs run Bash.
So, that might be causing some BT people some headaches this morning, if true.
Re: Can you hear that sound?
".... and they're already fixed...."
The patch being in the repos doesn't mean the average person with a web site that once had a developer throw some code at it has actually had the patch installed...!
Re: Can you hear that sound?
I misread that and then thought it was a typo, but I see what it means now.
Anyway, for those who aren't full time linux sysadmins (and I count myself in that group - although I'm learning fast) if you're running a boggo install of Debian Wheezy or any supported Ubuntu variant, give this a shot:
sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade bash
(use sudo as and if required, of course)
Wheezy main and Ubuntu have patches in the repo already - bash_4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u1 on debian vulnerability matrix thingy.
As a well regarded security consultant just IM'd to me, and I'll admit I'm paraphrasing here, PATCH FUCKING EVERYTHING.
..for another broderline troll article that is fantastic for gently joshing my Apple-loving chums.
As I don't work for an Apple Authorised service outlet any more* I'm only to happy to spread the venom and wind 'em up a bit.
But in all seriousness, getting the update pulled within two hours is pretty impressive (and a gutsy move given it was meant to fix Healthkit IIRC) - it begs the question, what has actually caused this, and how did it get past QA?
Steven 'I support Linux now' R
*although I was never that good at biting my tongue even then, arf
Re: Am I the only one...
I tend to agree to an extent - there seem to be a far lower amount of dribbling fucktards in some of the community groups.
The Linux user group is particularly good - patient, friendly and fairly open about other OSs.
Is it a Facebook beater? No. Is it useful? Yeah, it can be.
Re: The downside of using "good" materials
Ah, luxury finishes. Like the BMW Frozen Paint finish, which is a sort of matt finish you may have seen on new 3/4 series.
It's not a matte wrap, it's an actual finishing process on the paint. However, this means that should any damage come to the paint, it is quite explicitly not user repairable; you can't machine polish a scratch out - or even hand polish it out. It has to be taken to a BMW paint specialist, and normally it requires a whole panel match 'n' spray. Machine polishing it will ruin it, end of.
Expect to pick up scrathed E9x 3-series cheap with that paint on it in about five years time when people realise that it's £500 to remove a parking/supermarket trolley ding. This will be valuable when the 335i and other high value models start to trough in value in about six years time, mark my words - scratched ones will be £1000 cheaper than clean ones.
(none of this is hyperbole, by the way - the Drive channels sub-channel, Drive Clean, about detailing and whatnot, covered this in some detail - you cannot DIY the paint finish, period)
Luxury isn't always practical or useful.
Re: In any case, my old Xperia has survived plenty of similar drops
I find it quite interesting when Apple (and other companies - they really aren't the only one) advertise their OMG SO THIN YOU'LL NOT FEEL IT phones....and also, you'll want this silicon case to stop it from breaking which makes them all fat as fuck.
Me Nexus has survived a few 'oooh fook' drops without a case, thankfully, although it's looking a bit scarred now. Still works fine though, surprisingly!
Serious questions - I tested photocopiers for Xerox in their WGC operation about ten years ago. The process mostly involved checking for skew and artifacts from platen scans (although lots of document feeder testing was done too, natch) - lifting the platen - which isn't that heavy - dozens of times a day for a year has left me with shooting pains down my right arm, ten years later.
How does a touchscreen compare for that sort of shoulder work?
I might downvote myself, is possible, as I've had the theme tune to Heathcliff stuck in my head all day.
It's starting to grate now. (which is apt, as it's very cheesy)
Re: re: Really? What?
it is IMHO, if you're ripping the overly flowery prose, language manglement and general style of the original author.
" What man-made metal monster would presume to peel apart the green garden of Great Britain’s inner Eastern reaches? At the risk of sounding like an ardent Australian, don’t worry; it’s Eco, Sport.
Cleave the comma from the end of that sentiment and you arrive with elegant ease at the handle of the hot baby I am helming for this all-out, balls-out pedal across the feculent flatlands that coddle around Kettering for this morning’s wheelsmith steed is none other than the Blue Oval’s B-seg class buster, the high riding family funster they call EcoSport."
"Firing in spicy to an especially testing switchback I make a laser guided lunge for the bullseye marked ‘apex’ and then slam shut the taps to see what reacts. The answer is a playful tail, slyly stepping sideways to get in on the action. I simply caught it with a dab of oppo and I was away.
The Ford EcoSport 1.5 TDCi Titanium is a bitch. And I spanked it."
Which is a gentle tease of David Vivian, et al.
Props to Richard Porter for that particular fake journo.
"Just click the watch face and it will steer you in the direction of some other horny person, who will either recoil with horror at your inglorious visage or fall into bed with you."
It's always the former with me. But I'm not beautiful enough to own an Apple Watch anyway.
Steven "OH LORD, PUT IT AWAY*" R
*I should probably ask first, in fairness....
Re: And does anyone actually use this in Linux?
Just to add to the list of people rolling their eyes, my Macbook has six virtual desktops, and my home workstation has eight (two rows of four) to segregate jobs, tasks, personal and work related activities.
Makes managing my workflow (and skive time) far, far easier.
It was only a matter of time
After all, who hasn't used an inkjet printer and not, at some point, wished for a double barrel shotgun to 'fix' it?
Steven "BOOM ka-klik" R
Re: Tyson mode?
Do you type IDDQD to get no paper jams, and IDKFA to get it to keep printing when only one colour cart has run out and you just want a page of black text?
Rip and tear, baby. Rip and tear.
Re: Thank gawd
Remember Rareware, maker of some of the very finest games of the 90s?
Bought by Microsoft - released a few remakes and half hearted content, and now...?
MInd you, most of the talent jumped ship as soon as MS got involved....
Re: Only last night ..
In their defence, some of the larger stores do stock Riggwelter by Black Sheep, which is a lovely ale.
But yeah, they have some odd ideas about food - their scotch pies are horrifically bland.
....What was that about a mobile phone supplier?
Steven "knows his scotch pies" R
"Most of the mixed/negative reviews have focused on the perceived 'small' size of Destiny. Those reviews could well be premature, given more content (strike missions etc) is due to arrive tomorrow, with more to follow in the coming weeks and months."
"This new content includes new environments and enemies. This isn't 'paid for' DLC (though there will be some of that down the line) but free to all players of destiny."
Oh, that's alright then I suppose.
Does beg the question as to why it wasn't prepped for release day to quell any questions about size and scope though?
Re: Pay twice
Someone clearly disagrees.
This upvote is only 15p.
Invoice is in the post, dude.
Re: Pay twice
That'll be 25p for that upvote, Hipsterina.
Re: Please Continue This.
Quick, someone release the anti-crap-pun police.
You might even say they need to....scramble.
Hey Bush_rat, grab my coat on the way past....
Re: Coming soon
"To play Minecraft you must have a Microsoft Live account"
I'm only being a little bit sarcastic, too...
Re: Arrogant much?
AC is just jealous that their lack of interpretation skills means they'll never be at the top of any field that doesn't contain cows or corn.
It was perfectly obvious from the context that the subject of the artcile meant in his chosen specailised corner of IT; the six downvotes only a few hours after the article posted - on a weekend where traffic is lower - sort of prove that point.
Edit: And since I started scrawling this post - it's now gone to eight, and that's before I've downvoted it too. Nuff said.
Re: Sony, sort it out
Is GPS height measurement not a bit inaccurate? Might be why it's not there - an electronic barometer might be a better one for gauging height via barometric pressure?
For your entertainment, on the computer noted above, I got some OS/2 install disks, and tried to install it before I had removed/unconfigured doublespace (or whatever it was).
Cue one wrecked file table, and being about twelve, skint, and living in a tiny village where I was the only person with any real computer chops, that was the computer dead.
Re: "...it's my device..."
You're all no fun.
Although yes, I kind of forgot about rooting, I haven't had to do it for years and does kind of negate my childish frippery. I'm blaming the stomach bug I have (I posted that from a rather uncomfortable toilet trip - enjoy that mental image).
Hugs and kisses
"...it's my device..."
It really isn't.
Steven "same goes for Android and WinPho too, as it happens" R
@Gordan - yes. Yes I am.
(he says, wishing he had added that to the original post. DAMN.)
"Maybe we need a corollary to Godwin covering the use of cars an analogy"
That'd be Goodwood...
And it'd be a Corolla (preferably of the AE86 variety) rather than a corollary.
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