* Posts by newro

2 posts • joined 8 Aug 2012

Hacker-smasher: White hats join forces to build bot-beating weapon


Re: Chaos Computer Club

No. But once we stop thinking in strict black and white terms, the really question is where on the grey scale they are. And I would argue that they are pretty much on the light end of things. They are very careful to operate within the law.

For the Bundestrojaner, it was the government who broke the law, not the CCC. And at the conference 2 years ago, they actually obtained a license to run their own GSM network, so they can show how to hack it, as it would be illegal to hack an operational one.

But overall, most of the active members are really more the old-school type of hackers with a soldering iron. I really loved the "Not your Grandfathers moon landing" http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2011/28c3-4821-en-not_your_grandfathers_moon_landing.html oh, and there is also the laptop in space thing or Building a Distributed Satellite Ground Station Network - A Call To Arms http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2011/28c3-4699-en-building_a_distributed_satellite_ground_station_network.html


Chaos Computer Club

CCC, most defiantly not black hats. The club is very open and has a huge member base. So yes, there are the occasional black sheep's. But from a public representation they are more on the white-ish side of things. They often get invited as expert witnesses, for example by the constitutional court.