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Re: PC Market is being suffocated by Windows 8 + MS-signed UEFI
eadon2 because this is channel register, and it doesn't seem to recognise my eadon account. :(
PC Market is being suffocated by Windows 8 + MS-signed UEFI
The lack of exciting hardware progress in PC's is not helping.
But until the issue of people not wanting Windows 8 is solved, then it's going to be tough going.
@mmeier - it's easy for guys like you to dismiss geeks as just "neckbearded fanatics" and penguins. But alienate this market sector at your peril. Microsoft alienated geeks, by threatening Linux with lawsuits and so on, and now suing Android manufacturers and extorting patent taxes from them.
The problem with alienating geeks is that geeks are unbelievably powerful. They decide, ultimately, what ends up in Datacentres and in people's pockets. Linux is killing Windows in the server market? Why? It's not because execs are demanding Linux, they don't know what it is. It's because the geeks are telling execs that if they use Windows on servers, then the TCO will be higher, and the solution will likely fail. (Which is an accurate engineering assessment - and who makes those assessments? Geeks).
Look at mobiles. Android was, and is, the geekiest serious mobile OS ever. It's the most open, it has a Linux kernel. Geeks loved it at first sight. And it took a only three generations of Android for it to have killed Symbian (no, sorry, Android didn't kill Symbian, MS/Elop did), smashed Blackberry, slaughtered WinCE / WinPho and it even caused the Jesus Phone to stumble.
That is very much because the Neckbeards, the geeks, created buzz online and told all their mates how good Android is.
Now a geek / neckbeard wouldn't be seen DEAD with a Windows Phone or a Surface or a Zune. And guess what? RIP Zune. Windows Pho has been, considering how many billions have been ploughed into selling it, an utter catastrophe, and the Surface has bombed.
Those Microsoft products are considered by the people to be a JOKE. And who told them that these products are a joke? The media? No - the media are gushing about MS products - they need the advertising dollars.
The neckbeards, the geeks told everybody that the Microsoft products are a joke (which happens to be true) and now those products have failed in the marketplace. The products would have failed anyway, but people would have bought a few first, before getting burned.
Re: Win8 for business
Microsoft tend to be deliberately non-interoperable. They do not play nice with competitor's software, and use non-standard protocols whereever possible, or extend standard ones. Or even use patent threats (e.g. the insane FAT file system patent law suits against Linux-using companies such as Tom Tom.)
So in a fragmented work place where you have apple products and even some Linux desktops in the more creatively minded orgs, the best way to unify everything is to use non-Microsoft tech and only use Microsoft tech to manage the Microsoft stuff.
Re: Another day, another win 8 hater story on the reg
@The_Regulator - There are plenty of Microsoft-apologist sites / blogs out there where everyone is sycophantic towards Windows (to garner ad revenue). ZDNet for example.
If something is simply a bad product, like Windows 8 evidently is, experts and the market both agree - then it is not balanced journalism to say 50% good things and 50% bad things about it. It is balanced journalism to say that a bad product is bad. It's called telling the truth.
@dajames - an OS an look good an stylish in the same way a building can, and still be perfectly functional. Windows 7 looks kind of dated though, and though that wouldn't bother you or me, execs usually like to use more modern, stylish kit. Cars, computers, etc, these are status symbols and a dell running Windows is more chav than exec.
@Chad H. Linux on the desktop can never happen whilst Microsoft controls the OEMs. People tend to stick with what is installed on their computer when they buy it.
Even Win 8 is selling, even though at a lower rate. If OEM's were to put Linux Mint on computers and sell them at the same price as Windows on the same spec hardware, then the Linux on the Desktop paradigm would happen.
@Dogged My understanding is that hands-on reviews are not genuine hands on reviews, i.e. journalists have not been allowed to try the thing hands on at so called hands on reviews. It's a scam basically.
This product is vapourware. Once we see a real device, and not a mock up prototype then we can say something sensible. Currently it's a marketroid fantasy.
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