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4 posts • joined 16 Jun 2012

Australia 'should not be scared' of NBN cost

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Re: Future proof?

May I ask then why NBNCo. is saying, unequivocally, it will be able to upgrade us to 1Gbps DEFINITELY (already happening) and possibly 10 or even 50Gbps, on the current fibre, with simple swap outs of the switches and NTU'S?

Are you saying they are just plain up lying? Or that the companies providing them the equipment (Cisco, Alcatel-Lucent, Ericsson) are plain up lying to them?

By the way, only 25% of the fibre rollout is aerial. And, while certainly not a network or fibre expert, I know for a fact that error compensation mechanisms are in place for EXACTLY this sort of thing. So it adds 5ms to the overall journey there and back. Big F$*#ing deal.

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Re: NBN take-up is below expectations

You are quite obviously either a troll or badly misinformed. For a start, the fibre install of $3000 is only relevant to those outside the sities and part of the reason a NATIONAL rollout is required, to subsidise these connections.

Secondly, my current ADSL costs me $70 + line rental, so $100 a month. I get MAXIMUM 8Mbps, average 5.5Mbps. With 200GB quota.

On the NBN, I can get even just a 12/1 plan, which is still better than what I have, with 200Gb, from iinet, for $60. No line rental required. That's a $40 saving. If I want 25/5? $70. 50/20? $85....would you like me to keep going till I get to 100Mbps?

75% of users are happy with 256k ADSL....mmm, now I know you're a troll. Look up, hell, just a newspaper sometime and take a quick look at the average broadband speed in Australia.....5Mbps.....yes, we're DEFINITELY happy with dial-up...which makes up 3% of the total internet connections in Australia.

Seriously, troll somewhere else, we're trying to have a discussion here.

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Re: Return of a monoplist

Hi Matthew!

Still pushing your mantra I see. Notice how nobody except me has replied?

Aren't you bored of this yet?

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Re: Fail!

Lots of PEOPLE are getting wireless, but the DATA they use OVER that wireless makes up....7% of the total data downloaded. And it's getting lower, slowly:

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/8153.0Chapter7Dec%202011

Fixed line downloads are increasing at 26% a year, while wireless downloads are increasing at 20% a year. So they're both growing, but fixed line is rowing faster AND makes up 93% already of the data downloaded.....unless you're suggesting 4G can handle this amount of data flowing through it?....you aren't are you? Cause that would be quite ridiculous.

Also, the failure of the old FTTN design? It was not about Telstra FIBRE, but Telstra COPPER. FTTN requires that you cut into the copper, as you have to put the cabinet closer to the permises to get ANY gain of speed using FTTN. Telstra admitted that while the cost to the government for construction of the network was around $5 Billion, they would NOT accept less than $10-15 BILLION for their copper network, which would now be useless as a standalone copper network. That put the total to close to $20 Billion....and it was only going to cover about 60% of Australia...

ALSO and perhaps most disturbingly, one of the good things about the NBN is the wholesale uniform pricing. ALL RSP's can access it, anywhere, for the same cost. Under a FTTN, the ULL (Unbundled Local Loop) system which has allowed competitors to use their own DSLAM's to compete over Testra's copper, WON'T EXIST. The architecture of an FTTN system is INHERENTLY monopolistic, with no way for more than one provider to access a premises. Also meaning only ONE company can provide actual access....imagine if it was Testra....hmmm, no wonder they wanted the Howard government to build the FTTN. It would essentially remove competition....so THAT's why the ACCC knocked it back!

Absolute fail indeed....

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