Re: Evolution? Devolution!
I forgot. If the singularity happens, evolution becomes moot......
1329 posts • joined 10 Apr 2012
I forgot. If the singularity happens, evolution becomes moot......
"So all our offspring will be supermen and superwomen. Whoopee! Luckily, nothing could go wrong with a project like that. After all, everyone agrees on what characteristics are good and which are bad."
Ok Mrs Smith, looking at your genetic profile, I can see you suffer from short sightedness. While we fix that fault in your baby, we'll install 20/20 vision.
Now that heart problem in the father's DNA is easily corrected, We're replace that with an athlete's heart.
Like cake a bit too much Mrs Smith? We'll tweak your child's DNA to boost it's metabolism so weight gain isn't an issue for them........
This is just the start
Imaging the 20/20 vision is replaced with eagle DNA and with thermal night vision overlay? Regeneration in case of injury? Improved strength using primate DNA? Improved intelligence? Faster reflexes? Immortal?
What you will find is human will split into two sub classes. Breeders churning out peons and the rich, elite class of improved humans ruling society.
A natural birth will eventually become a sign of lower status.
Breeders will still be useful when random chance produces an improvement, the elite will be able to copy it and give it to their offspring.
"@Thorne; Your comment shows that at best you are extremely ignorant - not least because if you were to actually study the list of the very greatest scientists and engineers of the past few hundred years you would find that many or most of the very best of them are/were very religious, even to the point of religion being their main inspiration.
This, despite religion having been generally held in disdain amongst the majority in the "educated" circles during the same period."
And now? Hawking? No.
I'm afraid most scientists don't think the world is 6000 years old and god buried dinosaur bones to test our faith plus all scientific test to the contrary are wrong cause a book tells us so.
In Western countries there is a direct correlation between education and the decline of religion. Religion is now the realm of the stupid and uneducated.
May god strike me down if I'm wrong........
Nope still here........
Yes but bogans are like cockroaches. Very hard to get rid of.....
Yes but speed, strength, intelligence etc was used to escape predators, hunt better and survive to breed in our ancestors
Now stupidity, gullibility, promiscuity and addiction are now prime traits to ensure your genes are passed on.
Now I'm not saying we should make stupidity illegal but lets just take the safety labels off everything and let nature take it's course......
The problem is the religious. Religious people have been shown to have lower than average IQ and religion rejects birth control and promotes large families.
You just have to see Catholic and Muslim families with ten kids to realize that Mr & Mrs Smart with their 1, maybe 2 kids, can't compete.
When gullibility and stupidity become a prime trait for "Survival of the Fittest", we're in trouble.....
GM is where it will go. Evolution will continue but by human hands and not survival of the fittest.
It will just become part of the normal pregnancy cycle along with the usual tests and screenings.
A mother will come in for her prenatal tests which will include DNA of the child. Any potential faults will be corrected long before the baby is born. Where it will get interesting is while fixing, a few optional extra will get installed.
It's like getting the brakes fixed and getting a turbocharger installed at the same time....
"that evolution might favour physically robust, promiscuous people of only average IQ, but if that's the way the cards are stacked, it's still evolution."
Average IQ??? Have you seen the breeders?
Here's a joke to explain the situation to you
Shazza is down at the dole office........
Dole Officer: "And how many children do you have?"
Dole Officer "And what are their names?"
Shazza:"Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne, Wayne and Wayne,"
Dole Officer: "Isn't that confusing?"
Shazza: "Na it's great. When it's tea time, I just yell 'Wayne yours dinner is ready' and they all come and when I get sick of them I yell 'Wayne, get ta bed' and they all go to bed."
Dole Officer: "But what if you want to call just one of them?"
Shazza: "That's easy. I just use their surname........"
I'm sure Australian government will do a much better job..........
A televised dance off is more entertaining than electing clowns.....
"Could be tinfoil hat gibberish, could be real. We need the government to tell us what is going on within our shores.."
Nothing is happening. Nothing at all. All is good. We are your friends. We're here to protect you from the big bad world. Don't worry your pretty little heads about it. All is good.......
"Not just sneak in and steal it - sneak in, swap it with another one, then sneak back in and swap it back without the owner being aware that anything is amiss. Seems *much* harder than guessing a password from afar or even stealing a security token."
Well what happens if you steal a token? As soon as the owner notices, they ring up and cancel the token.
You can't ring up and cancel your heart...
To steal someone heartbeat wouldn't be that hard anyway for someone determined. Anything they touch could be bugged to pull their heartbeat be it their chair, mouse, exercise bike etc. No different to stealing someone's fingerprints.
"Which is more practical. Guessing a password from miles away, or sneaking in to someones house at just the right time to steal their password bracelet."
No different to breaking in to steal a security token only they can't go out and get a new heartbeat.
Uses heart beat to generate passkey?
Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't you replace a user's band while they're in the shower to a hacked one that remembers the beat and swap back the next day. Suddenly you have full access.
Like all biometric systems, if it gets hacked, you can't change your eyes/finger prints/ heart beat like you can a password or security token.
Two new torrent sites open.
More effective but less cool.....
Ugly people renting a hot body for the night so they can get laid.
Skilled technician using a paedophile for nuclear reactor repairs.
Rent a local for your Paris holiday.
NSA bugging people's heads......
Maybe finding out that the NSA snoop every last thing you do?
"Does IBM store this data in the US where the good folks at NSA can find it?"
NSA supply it.....
"Can we get a computer to reliably and quickly recognise a CAPTCHA?"
Seriously? I've got problems with damn CAPTCHA.....
"One obvious way to settle accident blame issues would be for the insurance companies to require such vehicles to have cameras all round continually recording, plus a running log of the internal systems & all comms traffic. I'm sure they wouldn't abuse the info in any way."
Of course it will. No difference to a black box in planes.
The real interesting thing will be the police. Just imaging every car is a 360 degree surveillance cam.
Want to see footage of a mugging? pull up all footage from all cars in the area at the time.
God bless Big Brother for keeping us safe......
The car will record all footage showing it was the idiot cyclist's own damn fault.
Just like dashcam only with 360 degree views.
"When the cars are driverless, every car can act like a taxi. There should be little need for owning a car if you can car-pool for a fraction of the cost and the nearest car will pick you up within a few minutes at the point of your choosing."
It might act like a taxi but taxi are quite often dirty and stinky.
Self drive cars will mean more cars as people who currently cannot drive will now be able to own a car.
Mum and Dad will have a car and now a third car to drop the kids at school.....
"How 'real world' will their test environment be? Stone buildings are all very well, but what about stray doggies crossing the road. Idiots crossing while zonked out on loud music from their iThing. Kiddies rushing across the road to the ice-cream van - will they invite the local primary school to visit to provide test material? Will they have nice deep potholes that can make the car swerve? Two men crossing the road with a giant pane of glass?"
How well do human drivers handle it? You people all quote the same scenarios forgetting that human drivers usually kill the pedestrian anyway. Yes robocar might run a little kiddy over but a human driver would have as well. The difference is with perfect vision, reactions and decision making, if the robocar could avoid the accident it will.
"If we're moving towards a driverless era (which is a shame - I still enjoy driving), I'd imagine that we're going to go through a dangerous interim first."
Daz and Enid are already on the road causing accidents. How is a computer going to do worse than a human?
"My money is on the car swerving to avoid a deer, thus killing the idiot !driving it."
The car will never swerve wildly like a human driver. It will see the deer, calculate the safest path based on the deer's trajectory and if unavoidable run the damn deer down in the safest way for the driver....
"when the first automated car kills someone (my money is on a damned cyclist)."
The car will record 360 degree vision and will show the idiot cyclist caused himself to get killed.
Maybe then the laws will get them off the road.....
"Software can do a LOT more about it
There is no reason why multi vehicle pileups cannot become a thing of the past once inefficient and inattentive humans are taken out of the equation"
Plus the computer will maintain a safe distance automatically to prevent pile ups and in the event of an unavoidable accident, it can calculate the safest way to control the accident to prevent deaths.
"So you think that not learning how to properly operate a motor vehicle is a good idea when allowing people to operate motor vehicles? Really?"
People have to complete driving training now and complete a test to drive. They then go out and get drunk to celebrate passing the test and then drive home.
Some people are idiots and no amount of training will change that.
Vision fades and reactions slow for old people and no amount of training will change that.
A computer has perfect concentration, perfect reactions and 360 degree see in the dark vision. No amount of training can beat that.
Yes there will be accidents with self drive cars but there will be a fraction of the accidents.
Eventually self drive vehicles will be the law.
Too much to go wrong???? Like drunken idiots?? Hoons???? Druggos??? Talking on mobiles???? Tired drivers????
Something like 90% of accidents are due to the driver. Mechanical issues account for a very small part.
I think I'll bank on Google's magic fix-it pills before your training classes.
You might say you won't buy that but give it maybe 25 years and legally you won't be able to go on the road without it.
Well automated trucks means they could drive 24/7. There would be no cowboys, drugs, speeding or tail gating.
Trucking is an industry driven on price. Automated trucks means deliveries faster and cheaper.
As much as it is terrible for people to lose their job, it's still going to happen. I wouldn't want to be a taxi driver, truck driver or video store owner. Ten years from now they won't exist.
What if the NSA says please?
A large packet of onion rings before bed........
"Somehow I don't think he's going to get hormone therapy, pink fluffy slippers and Hello magazine delivered to his cell every week."
I think he might have to settle for being called a "bitch" and get slapped around a bit cause in a military prison, that's all he's likely to get.
Reminds me of Klinger on M.A.S.H.
He's hoping to get out of the army by dressing as a girl........
"Whereas the Julian Assange car parks itself and refuses to move?"
I'd of said the Assange car refuses to move no matter how big the charge......
It squeals and takes off quickly.....
I heard the slogan "Get some pork on your fork" but this is taking it too far......
"I refer you to the speech recognition debacle, always 10 years away, always looks likes it works, never works well enough for people to actually use it. If it worked smartphones wouldn't have screens would they?"
Angry birds doesn't have the same effect if you just yell at them to kill the damn pigs.....
"Wonder if all the car insurance will be the same price if its driving it self... i.e no age discrimnantion"
Of course not. The driver (AKA the car) will be under 25 so a premium must be paid.......
You may take our mail servers but you'll never take our freedom...........
"And I don't like soy because it increases oestrogen. Then I have to do more work outs to stay fit."
Ah so that's what makes PETA supporters such whiny little bitches......
"Not enough. As long as secret gag orders exist they can say anything they want, and no one can trust anything they say.
- They would have to declare all existing gag orders void.
- Only allow gag orders for a fixed time for a specified investigation. After that time it's public. No exceptions."
Problem is the NSA might say the gag orders have been removed and secretly gag everyone who tries to say that it is a lie....
"if this arsehole was stealing from my account I'd want the book thrown at him too."
The difference is between Latvia punishing it's own citizens and Latvia handing it's citizens over to America to face American justice.
If the guy broke the law, he should face Latvian justice, not American justice...
How do you get testing done when it's banned before it's even released?
Lets ban stuff before it's even out and before anyone has any idea of whether it can improve or decrease road safety.
Bugger them scientist and their tests. We have politicians....
And suddenly you need another gun.......
You need a gun, the printer will save you $1000.......
Yeah cause all the hobos have smart phones.....
(maybe if they didn't spend all their dosh on iProducts they could afford food)