Posts by Bronny

Re: Rule No. 1

Let me explain the issue here, since you obviously are obviously having trouble.

When was the last time you saw a poster saying "don't rape" or "don't mug"? And yet we see posters all the time telling women not to get drunk, not to get into unlicensed taxis, to walk home with a friend. No, you shouldn't have to defend yourself but since you do then at least spend as much time telling people not to commit crimes as you spend telling potential victims to stay in, or stay sober, or to stay worried.

Oh, and the statistics tell us that most rapes are not carried out by the stranger hiding in the shadows, they are carried out by people the women know. So, you can leave the hit chick alone and stop stalking her in the town centre.

Re: Would it be too much...

So wrong in so many ways.

Need the reference to the study I'm afraid because it's smelling a little like BS, and you are just hoping such a study exists. You did see this right (http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/14/man-sets-up-fake-online-dating-profile-pretending-to-be-a-woman-but-quits-two-hours-later-due-to-harassment-and-hostility-4262185/) and this was on a site where you'd think men would be trying to impress not offend, and even a man found it too much. Please do send references where women have abused men to the same degree.

The female victims were targeted by the criminals and other vile people just because they dared to open their mouth. Remember they were sent really vile threats and abuse whether they responded to trolls or not. The issue is why people feel the need to send abuse and threats, not that recipients should suck it up and shut up. The abusers want to silence the recipients, do you approve of censoring people for their politely expressed opinions then?

And as for the BoE, they have a policy to ensure there was gender balance represented on the bank notes and they did not appear to be following it. Since half the population is female and don't spend it indoors making the evening tea, they should also be represented on our notes, don't you agree? That isn't opposing opportunity, that's just pointing out to the BoE that they need to follow their own policy.

Re: It must get really, really boring

Strewth....a Daily Mail reader personified. It must be exhausting rationalising your behaviour like this, despite people telling you that your assumptions are wrong :-

1) No-one has said that men don't get sexually harrassed - it's on a very different scale to that experienced by women but is still relevant. This article is about a women calling out men though. Stay on topic.

2) This sort of harassment (calling out names, insiduous touching up, groping, whistling, etc) happens at any time if the day. When you're feeling rough with a hangover, on the bus, in a dark alley, at night, in nightclubs, anywhere and everywhere. You are the one applying limits.

3) Since complicated words are confusing you, let's call it all harrassment, since that's what it is. It includes whistling, touching, groping and the shouting out of actions or even parts

4) Yes, read Everyday Sexism (have you bothered?) and you'll see every age of women and every type of woman has been affected in one way or another. Don't make assumptions. This isn't just about someone tottering along in a short skirt and high heels, it's going to the corner shop in no make-up and trackie bottoms, it's in school uniforms, it's while holding your child's hand.

5) No, groping is not out of context, it's right in the middle of the context. I know so many women who will say they were on the bus or tube and thought they might have been touched up (or had body parts pressed against them unncessarily) but they were so shocked that they tried to convince themselves it hadn't really happened because civilised people don't behave like that. But they do.

6) Yes timid people get shouted at, as do mouthy ones, and old oens and young ones, and those with big boobs and those with small boobs, it is never ending. Stop trying to tell us what happens, try listening!

Lsten, for once, just bloody listen and stop trying to convince yourself that your behaviour is acceptable.

Re: It must get really, really boring

Nice comment but can I just point out that this doesn't affect just timid women. It affects young girls, old women, brave and mouthy women too. But while you are pondering about the day's work, or thinking about your elderly granny, or even if just trying to cross the road and some git shout something out, or gropes you on the bus we can all be knocked back into shock and silence.

It's geneuinely shocking to hear some of the comments, but it can be physically shocking to have a strangre shouting at you (regardless of content) and you mentally reel, and even the quickest of us can dry up with a smart retort because of fear or shock.

Re: It must get really, really boring

I'm pretty sure Rosey is speaking for most women, pretty much certain it's most women you'll ever meet. You are setting back male evolution decades with your sad, sad attempt attempt at justifying shouting things at women.

"CatCalling = non-acceptable

? = acceptable"

Nothing, nothing is acceptable to shout out at women. You may not have evolved past Orang Utan but most of us high functioning men and women can manage whole hours at a time without feeling the need to bellow out across the street to someone about their pert arse or where I'd like to stick my tongue.

Re: It must get really, really boring

Please....please tell me there aren't a whole pile of these offensive posts from you all the way down this thread. These techniques are not usually successful. Or at least they are only successful in making young girls and women worried, grimy and depressed about some of the men in this country. Don't worry, we've already written you off as a waste of space and DNA.

Re: It must get really, really boring

The calls are not aimed at you, perhaps that is why you don't recognise any "territorial claim, group bonding, and intimidation/threat " in that. But, unless you are working to help reduce them it doesn't matter what you think, it's what it feels like to have them made to you. *You* are not the important one here, sorry to break the news.

Re: It must get really, really boring

Are you a woman? No? Then you don't get to decide what is demeaning or not, regardless of your intentions. Thsi is not unncessarily PC, believe me. Try reading Everyday Sexism to see the degree and the never ending stream of comments, calls, gropes, pathetic, creepy offensive behaviour. In fact, try being a woman for a day and then you get to decide what it feels like to have soemone wind down their window and shout out "nice tits love", or to be told in a meeting your momentary lack of recall is a "blonde moment".

This woman is not doing more damage than these creepy men, but your response doesn't do anything for your gender.

Re: Less Women at Top Rung Maybe a Good Thing & Education is a Luxury.

I sense you have something you want to get off your Chest, Craigness. Pull up a chair, tell us about it, sounds fascinating.

Re: Some strange options available...

It's free!

Re: Some strange options available...

I attended the Science Festival talk (on the science of dreams) where the app was launched and the range of sound tracks included is in response to answers received by Prof Wiseman. He was expecting answers asking for soothing, relaxing themes but he received may requests for exciting, adventurous sounds as well, so that's why. And the app is free.